Um why are you looking at the back pants pockets of young girls?
Still I hope Apple keeps the 4" and add the "plus" model at < 5". I still think >5" for a phone is absurd.
Because I have a daughter who is now 22. She's got a lot of friends. I've asked them if they ever break their phones by carrying them that way, but they say no, that everyone does that.
Um why are you looking at the back pants pockets of young girls?
Still I hope Apple keeps the 4" and add the "plus" model at < 5". I still think >5" for a phone is absurd.
Because I have a daughter who is now 22. She's got a lot of friends. I've asked them if they ever break their phones by carrying them that way, but they say no, that everyone does that.
I *think* they were just pulling your leg there Melgross. But yes, it is a fair question from your part, one I also wanted an answer to. So thanks.
I *think* they were just pulling your leg there Melgross. But yes, it is a fair question from your part, one I also wanted an answer to. So thanks.
I know, but I wanted to expand what I said anyway, and to continue the conversation. People ask me why I say things about young people, so I feel I should tell them where I get so e of my info.
A 5.07" display iPhone I would consider it to be a phablet and therefore makes me hope they will keep the 4" alongside.
And I thought that after the 4.1", 4.2", 4.3", 4.4", 4.5", 4.6", 4.7", 4.8", 4.9", 5.0", 5.1", 5.2", 5.3", 5.4" & 5.5" display rumours we'd be covered for any outcome. But unfortunately we now are going to go all out and have the rumour mill include .0x" screens, which could run well into 2015 (without actually counting).
You failed to account for the possibly huge number of iPhone users who bought an iPhone for the hardware and iOS ecosystem but who crave a larger display.
People are fooling themselves if they think they can be more productive on a 4.7" instead of a 4" screen. My iPad Air is already on the edge of usability. It is because the iPad interface hasn't fully matured yet.
Apple is sending out the wrong signal to developers by making the screen size bigger. Some well developed iPhone apps - like Clear, Rise and Mailbox - do not need a bigger screen.
I really hope Apple updates the 3.5" iPhone. For the colorful. I'd be more than happy with my (unlocked) sub 500$ iPhone.
Larger iphone is 3 years overdue. They should have been AHEAD of samsung and the other mfg's with this trend. Not years behind as a slow follower. Sad to see what Apple has become under Cook
When I read your post, the words Myopic, Venomous, Ignoble, GODforsaken spring to mind.
Girls, particularly young ones, put their phones in their back jeans pocket. How they don't break them is something I don't understand, but they do do it.
As TS said, they have more of a cushion, much to the appeal of mankind.
Seems you are correct. On my screen (on my MacBook Air with the display zoomed a bit) I can do a crude measurement with a tape measure. Hey, I said it was a crude measurement. The screen on the left measured 2 5/8" (2.625") and the one on the right measured 3". Doing the math, the screen on the right would be about 14-15% longer on the diagonal. 14-15% more than 4" is 4.6"isn, which is closer to 4.7".
What gave you the impression the next iPhone would have no bezels?
Just silly rumors that I remember reading somewhere, but nothing concrete, really. I know I shouldn't have paid attention, but am I mistaken or is Google designing a bendable phone that is all screen, or some such thing? I guess I figured if Google had that, then Apple could have a perfectly-functional hard screen, with a wrapped edge.
You failed to account for the possibly huge number of iPhone users who bought an iPhone for the hardware and iOS ecosystem but who crave a larger display.
Apple is sending out the wrong signal to developers by making the screen size bigger. Some well developed iPhone apps - like Clear, Rise and Mailbox - do not need a bigger screen.
What wrong signal is Apple sending to developers?
With the Storyboard and AutoLayout features of XCode. it is quite easy to exploit various screen sizes in iOS.
Even though some apps may not "need a bigger screen", likely, they could benefit their presentation with more whitespace.
Girls, particularly young ones, put their phones in their back jeans pocket. How they don't break them is something I don't understand, but they do do it.
AS TS said, they have more of a cushion, much to the appeal of mankind.
Here ya' go:
Aside: We've been watching Downton Abbey on Masterpiece Classics -- similar to Upstairs, Downstairs on Masterpiece theater -- only a lot funnier!
One of the lead actresses is Elizabeth McGovern. I had remembered her appearing in a controversial movie some time ago ... A little surfing on IMDB, and I came up with the movie Ragtime. She played a character that was supposed to have posed for the statue of Diana, above that was commissioned by Architect Stanford White and installed atop Madison Square.
Second version of "Diana" was draped in cloth to address concerns of nudity. The cloth eventually blew away.
The second, smaller version of "DIANA" was completely redesigned by Saint-Gaudens to have a more elegant pose with a different thrust of the body, a thinner figure, smaller breasts and more feminine angle of the leg. To better fit the top of Madison Square Garden, the proportion was also scaled down to 13 feet tall. It was hoisted on top of the Garden on November 18, 1893.[7][8] This version was mounted as originally planned on its left toe and was made of hollowed, gilded copper, which made it light enough to rotate with the wind as originally designed.
At 347 feet above street level, the "Diana" statue was the highest point in New York City at the time. During the day, the gilded figure caught the sun and could be seen from all over the city and as far away as New Jersey. Electric lights, then a novelty, illuminated it at night; it was the first statue in history to be lit by electricity.
In 1925, Madison Square Garden was demolished to make way for the construction of the New York Life Building. Before the building was torn down, "Diana" was removed and preserved. It was intended for the statue to remain in New York City, however a seven year search to find a place to display it proved futile. In 1932, the New York Life Insurance Company, who now owned the property, presented "Diana" to the Philadelphia Museum of Art as a gift where it remains today, displayed at the top of its Great Stair Hall.[9]
With the Storyboard and AutoLayout features of XCode. it is quite easy to exploit various screen sizes in iOS.
Even though some apps may not "need a bigger screen", likely, they could benefit their presentation with more whitespace.
Constraint breeds creativity.
The bigger the screen the lazier you get (as a developer).
The 3.5" screen of the iPhone necessitates creative thinking. As a developer you take advantage of the touchscreen technology to create gesture based interfaces. Hence the importance of all areas being accessible with one hand. The 5.5 inch iPhone challenges this concept. It is already flirting with the iPad experience …
With the Storyboard and AutoLayout features of XCode. it is quite easy to exploit various screen sizes in iOS.
Even though some apps may not "need a bigger screen", likely, they could benefit their presentation with more whitespace.
Constraint breeds creativity.
The bigger the screen the lazier you get (as a developer).
The 3.5" screen of the iPhone necessitates creative thinking. As a developer you take advantage of the touchscreen technology to create gesture based interfaces. Hence the importance of all areas being accessible with one hand. The 5.5 inch iPhone challenges this concept. It is already flirting with the iPad experience …
I disagree!
"The bigger the screen the lazier you get (as a developer)." Bullshit! Just the opposite is true!
If one-hand access is your goal, you can accomplish that regardless of screen size.
Are you an iOS OSX developer?
Have you ever written an iPhone app?
By your logic, the iOS developer would be much more creative and have a better app on a 1.5" x 1.5" screen.
If one-hand access is your goal, you can accomplish that regardless of screen size.
By leaving an increasing amount of space unused (and therefore worthless to you and the user) the larger the screen gets. I’m not sure I see your reasoning here.
<span style="line-height:1.4em;">If one-hand access is your goal, you can accomplish that regardless of screen size.</span>
By leaving an increasing amount of space unused (and therefore worthless to you and the user) the larger the screen gets. I’m not sure I see your reasoning here.
I didn't say that it was a good goal, or that I necessarily agree with it!
However, look at Apple's Mail app in landscape mode on the iPad or an iPad mini. Here, you can do most of the Navigation you need to do with a single hand -- yet additional, out of reach, information is available to improve the user experience.
If you wanted to redesign the app for one-handed use you could allow the user to double tap a message summary on the left and bring the full message into the left area for one-handed manipulation.
See – additional screen space can make a developer more creative.
The first 5 generations of the iPhone under Steve Jobs (ie. every single generation) was the exact same size. The first iPhone developed under Cook was larger (iPhone 5). GTFO with your FUD. There isn't an iota of evidence that under Jobs a massive phone would have come out sooner. Not an iota. The iPhone is still the best selling smartphone on the planet- what does that tell you about this "trend"? Also, "size" has nothing to do with being ahead or behind. It's a design choice. Apple doesn't give a **** about trends.
If they don't care about trends then why is the new iPhone coming out in not one, but two, larger screen sizes? Seems they do care about trends because trends represent sales. You might want to check Samsung's revenue and profits recently. Not too far off where Apple is. Apple took notice and is responding 3 years late finally with a larger screen in response. If Jobs was in charge it would have been out a long time ago
If they don't care about trends then why is the new iPhone coming out in not one, but two, larger screen sizes? Seems they do care about trends because trends represent sales. You might want to check Samsung's revenue and profits recently. Not too far off where Apple is. Apple took notice and is responding 3 years late finally with a larger screen in response. If Jobs was in charge it would have been out a long time ago
So this rumor is somehow confirmed? Apple releases items when those items are ready. There isn't an innovation shot-clock in Jony's office.
You have no fn clue what Jobs would have done. Remember he didn't want iTunes for Windows.
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Because I have a daughter who is now 22. She's got a lot of friends. I've asked them if they ever break their phones by carrying them that way, but they say no, that everyone does that.
I *think* they were just pulling your leg there Melgross. But yes, it is a fair question from your part, one I also wanted an answer to. So thanks.
I know, but I wanted to expand what I said anyway, and to continue the conversation. People ask me why I say things about young people, so I feel I should tell them where I get so e of my info.
A 5.07" display iPhone I would consider it to be a phablet and therefore makes me hope they will keep the 4" alongside.
And I thought that after the 4.1", 4.2", 4.3", 4.4", 4.5", 4.6", 4.7", 4.8", 4.9", 5.0", 5.1", 5.2", 5.3", 5.4" & 5.5" display rumours we'd be covered for any outcome. But unfortunately we now are going to go all out and have the rumour mill include .0x" screens, which could run well into 2015 (without actually counting).
and 4.67".
People are fooling themselves if they think they can be more productive on a 4.7" instead of a 4" screen. My iPad Air is already on the edge of usability. It is because the iPad interface hasn't fully matured yet.
Apple is sending out the wrong signal to developers by making the screen size bigger. Some well developed iPhone apps - like Clear, Rise and Mailbox - do not need a bigger screen.
I really hope Apple updates the 3.5" iPhone. For the colorful. I'd be more than happy with my (unlocked) sub 500$ iPhone.
It's the new iwatch.
Or iKnuckleduster.
Larger iphone is 3 years overdue. They should have been AHEAD of samsung and the other mfg's with this trend. Not years behind as a slow follower. Sad to see what Apple has become under Cook
When I read your post, the words Myopic, Venomous, Ignoble, GODforsaken spring to mind.
This is hysterical - not only would it mean Apple copies a phatphone but also it's screen ratio? Priceless!
About as hysterical as your 'priceless' post.
Girls, particularly young ones, put their phones in their back jeans pocket. How they don't break them is something I don't understand, but they do do it.
As TS said, they have more of a cushion, much to the appeal of mankind.
Seems you are correct. On my screen (on my MacBook Air with the display zoomed a bit) I can do a crude measurement with a tape measure. Hey, I said it was a crude measurement. The screen on the left measured 2 5/8" (2.625") and the one on the right measured 3". Doing the math, the screen on the right would be about 14-15% longer on the diagonal. 14-15% more than 4" is 4.6"isn, which is closer to 4.7".
Indeed; 4.67".
What wrong signal is Apple sending to developers?
With the Storyboard and AutoLayout features of XCode. it is quite easy to exploit various screen sizes in iOS.
Even though some apps may not "need a bigger screen", likely, they could benefit their presentation with more whitespace.
Here ya' go:
Aside: We've been watching Downton Abbey on Masterpiece Classics -- similar to Upstairs, Downstairs on Masterpiece theater -- only a lot funnier!
One of the lead actresses is Elizabeth McGovern. I had remembered her appearing in a controversial movie some time ago ... A little surfing on IMDB, and I came up with the movie Ragtime. She played a character that was supposed to have posed for the statue of Diana, above that was commissioned by Architect Stanford White and installed atop Madison Square.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_(Saint-Gaudens)
What wrong signal is Apple sending to developers?
With the Storyboard and AutoLayout features of XCode. it is quite easy to exploit various screen sizes in iOS.
Even though some apps may not "need a bigger screen", likely, they could benefit their presentation with more whitespace.
Constraint breeds creativity.
The bigger the screen the lazier you get (as a developer).
The 3.5" screen of the iPhone necessitates creative thinking. As a developer you take advantage of the touchscreen technology to create gesture based interfaces. Hence the importance of all areas being accessible with one hand. The 5.5 inch iPhone challenges this concept. It is already flirting with the iPad experience …
I disagree!
"The bigger the screen the lazier you get (as a developer)." Bullshit! Just the opposite is true!
If one-hand access is your goal, you can accomplish that regardless of screen size.
Are you an iOS OSX developer?
Have you ever written an iPhone app?
By your logic, the iOS developer would be much more creative and have a better app on a 1.5" x 1.5" screen.
I disagree!
"The bigger the screen the lazier you get (as a developer)." Bullshit! Just the opposite is true!
If one-hand access is your goal, you can accomplish that regardless of screen size.
Are you an iOS OSX developer?
Have you ever written an iPhone app?
By your logic, the iOS developer would be much more creative and have a better app on a 1.5" x 1.5" screen.
Ha! You soon will have to … when the rumored iWatch comes out
I have a very different mindset when designing for the iPhone, iPad and web. It is very different scenarios: on the go, in the sofa and at your desk.
By leaving an increasing amount of space unused (and therefore worthless to you and the user) the larger the screen gets. I’m not sure I see your reasoning here.
I didn't say that it was a good goal, or that I necessarily agree with it!
However, look at Apple's Mail app in landscape mode on the iPad or an iPad mini. Here, you can do most of the Navigation you need to do with a single hand -- yet additional, out of reach, information is available to improve the user experience.
If you wanted to redesign the app for one-handed use you could allow the user to double tap a message summary on the left and bring the full message into the left area for one-handed manipulation.
See – additional screen space can make a developer more creative.
The first 5 generations of the iPhone under Steve Jobs (ie. every single generation) was the exact same size. The first iPhone developed under Cook was larger (iPhone 5). GTFO with your FUD. There isn't an iota of evidence that under Jobs a massive phone would have come out sooner. Not an iota. The iPhone is still the best selling smartphone on the planet- what does that tell you about this "trend"? Also, "size" has nothing to do with being ahead or behind. It's a design choice. Apple doesn't give a **** about trends.
If they don't care about trends then why is the new iPhone coming out in not one, but two, larger screen sizes? Seems they do care about trends because trends represent sales. You might want to check Samsung's revenue and profits recently. Not too far off where Apple is. Apple took notice and is responding 3 years late finally with a larger screen in response. If Jobs was in charge it would have been out a long time ago
So this rumor is somehow confirmed? Apple releases items when those items are ready. There isn't an innovation shot-clock in Jony's office.
You have no fn clue what Jobs would have done. Remember he didn't want iTunes for Windows.