Well apparently several others here weren't so sure it was a 1st gen and one even said since it was clearly running iOS 7 it had to be newer. Obviously your photo fooled the two people that liked your post with the photo. I guess they have a bit of egg on their face for backing you up now. The successor to the 5c will not be called the 5sc. Deal with it.
How can you even tell it is an iPhone from that photo and if so what model? I have my old 4s I pulled out of a drawer (which reminds me I need to hurry up and sell it) and the volume controls are small and round. The phone appears to be in some sort of case. There is also some sort of app for older iPhones that TS has talked about using many times here that also emulates the look of iOS 7. http://www.whited00r.com/index?lang=en
<span style="line-height:1.4em;">TS said that he used whitedoor to keep his first gen looking current so that would be my guess as to what we are looking at. If you search the forum for that term you can likely find his posts. There are also even custom ROM's available on Android that make an Android phone look exactly like iOS 7 to the point that it could easily fool someone in a photo like that with an Android phone that has same placement of volume and power or even an android phone inside a case made more for iPhone. </span>
<span style="line-height:1.4em;">If I wanted to prove I had a newer model iPhone as in at least a 4s or later I would take a less controversial photo that has the settings window open with model number showing or a better photo with something more identifiable. Reasonable people would take a photo that ipso facto proves their case without a doubt, not one that raises many more questions. </span>
<span style="line-height:1.4em;"> Anyone can pick up a bad ESN older iPhone that cannot be activated on a carrier for less than the cost of an iPod touch. They are sold on Ebay for around $100 and even less since they are essentially just an iPod touch so it could be one of those. Honestly, why would anyone ever buy an iPhone and then not have any phone or cellular data service on it as you can see from the photo which clearly shows No Service.</span>
<span style="line-height:1.4em;">I have asked him numerous times in the past what iPhone he has and he has ALWAYS beat around the bush and not answered the question. So I ask him now what model iPhone does he own. Very simple question. If that is not an iPhone running whitedoor surely he can take a photo with model number. </span>
Do you REALLY care that much? That's a whole lot of words and for what?
You implied he only had an original iPhone. Are you claiming the iPhone he is showing you is fake or not his?
Since it is a 1st gen iPhone I am not sure I get your meaning.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
5 became 5C. 5S will become 5SC (or, rather, just 5S if they don’t change it). 6 comes out, then 6S. No 6C unless they plasticize the 6 after the 6S is released.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Not really, no, but all you care about is insulting me and anyone who agrees therewith, regardless of it we’re correct or not.
You say that as though I, at any point, ever claimed it would be.
Which, once again, is hilarious.
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Originally Posted by Andysol
Do you REALLY care that much? That's a whole lot of words and for what?
You are the one that decided to chime in to tell me I was wrong and that definitely had to be a newer phone than a 1st gen since it was running iOS 7. Pretty silly to jump into a discussion, take a position, then when you are proven wrong to counter with why did your reply take so many words. It matters because he constantly berates any opinion I ever have over the iPhone and wants to come across as the resident iPhone expert on all things Apple when in fact he won't even support the company by buying an iPhone.
Not really, no, but all you care about is insulting me and anyone who agrees therewith, regardless of it we’re correct or not.
You say that as though I, at any point, ever claimed it would be.
Which, once again, is hilarious.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Proved that you’re a lying fool with a vendetta.
Please show me where I have insulted you once. I simply stated facts. If you take offense at someone pointing out those facts then change them and buy a new iPhone. You on the other hand routinely insult me and other posters here if anyone dare disagree with you. I am neither a fool nor a liar which I am pretty sure is a bannable offense.
Since it is a 1st gen iPhone I am not sure I get your meaning.
That is a 1st generation iPhone? And it's running iOS 7, not a maximum of iOS 3.1.3? TS must be really talented if can put the components of an original iPhone into that iPhone 4 or latter casing and then also find a way to get that 400MHz ARM11 processor to run iOS 7. I don't think anyone at Apple could put iOS 7 on the original iPhone but to be able to do that plus put in a new casing is beyond brilliant.
How can you even tell it is an iPhone from that photo and if so what model?
Because they’re not blind. Ringer switch.
TS said that he used whitedoor to keep his first gen looking current so that would be my guess as to what we are looking at.
But… but no! Because just yesterday you still claimed I didn’t have one, even after seeing the image!
There are also even custom ROM’s available on Android that make an Android phone look exactly like iOS 7…
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to the point that it could easily fool someone in a photo like that with an Android phone that has same placement of volume and power or even an android phone inside a case made more for iPhone.
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If I wanted to prove I had a newer model iPhone as in at least a 4s or later I would take a less controversial photo that has the settings window open with model number showing or a better photo with something more identifiable.
That’d probably be why I didn’t do that. Seeing as I don’t have a newer model iPhone.
Reasonable people would take a photo that ipso facto proves their case without a doubt, not one that raises many more questions.
Or maybe I just don’t care enough about you to waste my time composing a shot of reasonable quality.
Anyone can pick up a bad ESN older iPhone that cannot be activated on a carrier for less than the cost of an iPod touch.
Wow, you are, aren’t you.
Honestly, why would anyone ever buy an iPhone and then not have any phone or cellular data service on it as you can see from the photo which clearly shows No Service.
Exactly! That’s why I didn’t buy it. That’s why I wasn’t going to buy one in 2007.
I have asked him numerous times in the past what iPhone he has and he has ALWAYS beat around the bush and not answered the question.
Never, at any point, have I EVER done this.
So I ask him now what model iPhone does he own.
First gen. Someone screenshot this and ban him the next time he claims otherwise.
Originally Posted by gwmac
…when in fact he won’t even support the company by buying an iPhone.
You have now revoked all right you have to speak of any Apple product you yourself have not purchased.
That is a 1st generation iPhone? And it's running iOS 7, not a maximum of iOS 3.1.3? TS must be really talented if can put the components of an original iPhone into that iPhone 4 or latter casing and then also find a way to get that 400MHz ARM11 processor to run iOS 7. I don't think anyone at Apple could put iOS 7 on the original iPhone but to be able to do that plus put in a new casing is beyond brilliant.
You might want to read a few posts above.....That is not iOS 7 that is whited00r
I stated in this thread and many times before you had a 1st gen. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT MADE THIS INTO AN ISSUE. Not once have I suggested you didn't not own an iPhone, I simply said the one you have is an unactivated relic that you did not buy. Maybe if you got a better job or a job at all instead of spending every waking hour talking about iPhones you might be able to buy one. Now there is a thought.
My apologies. I don't know what whited00r is but I assume it's jailbreak or skin based on the inclusion of numbers.
How do you see that as an original iPhone?
I couldn't see enough detail to determine much of anything about that phone which is why I asked him point blank what model it was. Apparently that set off his temper. If someone asks me what phone I have I don't usually tend to take offense. You would have thought I insulted his family.
I couldn't see enough detail to determine much of anything about that phone which is why I asked him point blank what model it was. Apparently that set off his temper. If someone asks me what phone I have I don't usually tend to take offense. You would have thought I insulted his family.
In all fairness you keep saying he has an original iPhone which I can't fathom how that makes him less qualified to make comments here if he does. Frankly I wish I hadn't sold my original iPhone for a hefty profit to some bloke in the UK back in May 2008, but that's beside the point. Do I have to own a modern smartwatch in order to comment on the validity of Apple jumping into this market (new AI article on potential product with Nike coming shortly)? I don't think so.
Also, I hate when people state what they own without it being germane to the conversation and it's usually a red flag for a trollish comment to follow afterwards so I don't get why he has to prove anything to any of us… especially you since I don't think you are capable of being objective when dealing with TS (I'm also not sure he can be objective with you at this point, either). I'm not sure what he has to gain and it wouldn't he hard for him to post a screenshot from an iPhone 5S if he really wanted to fool you so I'd say just let it go.
In all fairness you keep saying he has an original iPhone which I can't fathom how that makes him less qualified to make comments here if he does. Frankly I wish I hadn't sold my original iPhone for a hefty profit to some bloke in the UK back in May 2008, but that's beside the point. Do I have to own a modern smartwatch in order to comment on the validity of Apple jumping into this market (new AI article on potential product with Nike coming shortly)? I don't think so.
Also, I hate when people state what they own without it being germane to the conversation and it's usually a red flag for a trollish comment to follow afterwards so I don't get why he has to prove anything to any of us… especially you since I don't think you are capable of being objective when dealing with TS (I'm also not sure he can be objective with you at this point, either). I'm not sure what he has to gain and it wouldn't he hard for him to post a screenshot from an iPhone 5S if he really wanted to fool you so I'd say just let it go.
I don't expect you to know about the many years he has harangued and harassed me which was infinitely worse when he had the power of being a mod on his side. I suppose if I only had this one thread to go by it would appear I am fixated on this one issue but I assure you there is a very long backstory and reason I pointed this out. Certainly a person can speak about a product they do not own intelligently. But when I have spoken of very specific issues with iOS or my iPhones that I actually use he has called me an idiot or that I was wrong. Would you not agree that without owning a more modern than 1st gen iPhone you cannot summarily dismiss or refute a very specific issue without owning one yourself? It is fine to speak about generalities but not user specific issues as he has often done. You can be surly and acerbic but I can at least respect your opinions and you don't mince words or play games. I may not agree with your opinions or conclusions but at least I understand them since you express them cogently.
Look, no, here’s the problem between us: I’m optimistic about the uncertain and you’re uncertain about optimists. That’s where most of the tension comes from.
Look, no, here’s the problem between us: I’m optimistic about the uncertain and you’re uncertain about optimists. That’s where most of the tension comes from.
Funny I always thought it was because instead of expressing your opinions as opinions you formulated them as facts and came across as the oracle of delphi on any all subjects in regards to any all subjects about Apple and treated anyone that disagreed with your assessment as a neophyte worthy of disdain and ridicule.
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You know what they say about a picture.....
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/161407/hackers-continue-to-tweak-apples-obsolete-ios-3-1-3-for-legacy-iphones-ipods
Good for you. It’s a 1st gen iPhone, as I have shown you many times before.
Too large to use with one hand, so yes, it’s a phablet.
Too large to use it how with one hand?
If you're talking about reaching every possible square inch of the screen with one thumb... I already have difficulty on the iPhone 5S.
But I'm fine with that. I just readjust the way I hold the phone.
My iPhone 5S is an amazing little pocket computer. But using one thumb sucks for most iPhone tasks.
The last phone I used with one thumb was this phone:
Even my Blackberry... with its amazing keyboard... I typed with two thumbs (two hands) and that didn't bother me.
For any current smartphone... I will use as many hands and fingers as possible. The next iPhone will be no different.
Use it how interface use how use… it. Marvin has a nice picture somewhere…
Well apparently several others here weren't so sure it was a 1st gen and one even said since it was clearly running iOS 7 it had to be newer. Obviously your photo fooled the two people that liked your post with the photo. I guess they have a bit of egg on their face for backing you up now. The successor to the 5c will not be called the 5sc. Deal with it.
Not really, no, but all you care about is insulting me and anyone who agrees therewith, regardless of it we’re correct or not.
You say that as though I, at any point, ever claimed it would be.
Which, once again, is hilarious.
Do you REALLY care that much? That's a whole lot of words and for what?
You implied he only had an original iPhone. Are you claiming the iPhone he is showing you is fake or not his?
Since it is a 1st gen iPhone I am not sure I get your meaning.
5 became 5C. 5S will become 5SC (or, rather, just 5S if they don’t change it). 6 comes out, then 6S. No 6C unless they plasticize the 6 after the 6S is released.
Not really, no, but all you care about is insulting me and anyone who agrees therewith, regardless of it we’re correct or not.
You say that as though I, at any point, ever claimed it would be.
Which, once again, is hilarious.
Do you REALLY care that much? That's a whole lot of words and for what?
You are the one that decided to chime in to tell me I was wrong and that definitely had to be a newer phone than a 1st gen since it was running iOS 7. Pretty silly to jump into a discussion, take a position, then when you are proven wrong to counter with why did your reply take so many words. It matters because he constantly berates any opinion I ever have over the iPhone and wants to come across as the resident iPhone expert on all things Apple when in fact he won't even support the company by buying an iPhone.
Not really, no, but all you care about is insulting me and anyone who agrees therewith, regardless of it we’re correct or not.
You say that as though I, at any point, ever claimed it would be.
Which, once again, is hilarious.
Proved that you’re a lying fool with a vendetta.
Please show me where I have insulted you once. I simply stated facts. If you take offense at someone pointing out those facts then change them and buy a new iPhone. You on the other hand routinely insult me and other posters here if anyone dare disagree with you. I am neither a fool nor a liar which I am pretty sure is a bannable offense.
That is a 1st generation iPhone? And it's running iOS 7, not a maximum of iOS 3.1.3? TS must be really talented if can put the components of an original iPhone into that iPhone 4 or latter casing and then also find a way to get that 400MHz ARM11 processor to run iOS 7. I don't think anyone at Apple could put iOS 7 on the original iPhone but to be able to do that plus put in a new casing is beyond brilliant.
Because they’re not blind. Ringer switch.
TS said that he used whitedoor to keep his first gen looking current so that would be my guess as to what we are looking at.
But… but no! Because just yesterday you still claimed I didn’t have one, even after seeing the image!
There are also even custom ROM’s available on Android that make an Android phone look exactly like iOS 7…
Heck, you can even install Android on my iPhone. Did it once.
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to the point that it could easily fool someone in a photo like that with an Android phone that has same placement of volume and power or even an android phone inside a case made more for iPhone.
Wait… you’re not… suggesting what I think you’re suggesting? You’d go that far to try to worm out of being wrong?
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If I wanted to prove I had a newer model iPhone as in at least a 4s or later I would take a less controversial photo that has the settings window open with model number showing or a better photo with something more identifiable.
That’d probably be why I didn’t do that. Seeing as I don’t have a newer model iPhone.
Or maybe I just don’t care enough about you to waste my time composing a shot of reasonable quality.
Wow, you are, aren’t you.
Exactly! That’s why I didn’t buy it. That’s why I wasn’t going to buy one in 2007.
Never, at any point, have I EVER done this.
First gen. Someone screenshot this and ban him the next time he claims otherwise.
…when in fact he won’t even support the company by buying an iPhone.
You have now revoked all right you have to speak of any Apple product you yourself have not purchased.
That is a 1st generation iPhone? And it's running iOS 7, not a maximum of iOS 3.1.3? TS must be really talented if can put the components of an original iPhone into that iPhone 4 or latter casing and then also find a way to get that 400MHz ARM11 processor to run iOS 7. I don't think anyone at Apple could put iOS 7 on the original iPhone but to be able to do that plus put in a new casing is beyond brilliant.
You might want to read a few posts above.....That is not iOS 7 that is whited00r
My apologies. I don't know what whited00r is but I assume it's jailbreak or skin based on the inclusion of numbers.
How do you see that as an original iPhone?
frothing at the mouth....blah blah blah
I stated in this thread and many times before you had a 1st gen. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT MADE THIS INTO AN ISSUE. Not once have I suggested you didn't not own an iPhone, I simply said the one you have is an unactivated relic that you did not buy. Maybe if you got a better job or a job at all instead of spending every waking hour talking about iPhones you might be able to buy one. Now there is a thought.
My apologies. I don't know what whited00r is but I assume it's jailbreak or skin based on the inclusion of numbers.
How do you see that as an original iPhone?
I couldn't see enough detail to determine much of anything about that phone which is why I asked him point blank what model it was. Apparently that set off his temper. If someone asks me what phone I have I don't usually tend to take offense. You would have thought I insulted his family.
Yep.
I stated in this thread and many times before you had a 1st gen. Not once have I suggested you didn’t not own an iPhone.
Sure you did. Sure you didn’t:
In all fairness you keep saying he has an original iPhone which I can't fathom how that makes him less qualified to make comments here if he does. Frankly I wish I hadn't sold my original iPhone for a hefty profit to some bloke in the UK back in May 2008, but that's beside the point. Do I have to own a modern smartwatch in order to comment on the validity of Apple jumping into this market (new AI article on potential product with Nike coming shortly)? I don't think so.
Also, I hate when people state what they own without it being germane to the conversation and it's usually a red flag for a trollish comment to follow afterwards so I don't get why he has to prove anything to any of us… especially you since I don't think you are capable of being objective when dealing with TS (I'm also not sure he can be objective with you at this point, either). I'm not sure what he has to gain and it wouldn't he hard for him to post a screenshot from an iPhone 5S if he really wanted to fool you so I'd say just let it go.
In all fairness you keep saying he has an original iPhone which I can't fathom how that makes him less qualified to make comments here if he does. Frankly I wish I hadn't sold my original iPhone for a hefty profit to some bloke in the UK back in May 2008, but that's beside the point. Do I have to own a modern smartwatch in order to comment on the validity of Apple jumping into this market (new AI article on potential product with Nike coming shortly)? I don't think so.
Also, I hate when people state what they own without it being germane to the conversation and it's usually a red flag for a trollish comment to follow afterwards so I don't get why he has to prove anything to any of us… especially you since I don't think you are capable of being objective when dealing with TS (I'm also not sure he can be objective with you at this point, either). I'm not sure what he has to gain and it wouldn't he hard for him to post a screenshot from an iPhone 5S if he really wanted to fool you so I'd say just let it go.
I don't expect you to know about the many years he has harangued and harassed me which was infinitely worse when he had the power of being a mod on his side. I suppose if I only had this one thread to go by it would appear I am fixated on this one issue but I assure you there is a very long backstory and reason I pointed this out. Certainly a person can speak about a product they do not own intelligently. But when I have spoken of very specific issues with iOS or my iPhones that I actually use he has called me an idiot or that I was wrong. Would you not agree that without owning a more modern than 1st gen iPhone you cannot summarily dismiss or refute a very specific issue without owning one yourself? It is fine to speak about generalities but not user specific issues as he has often done. You can be surly and acerbic but I can at least respect your opinions and you don't mince words or play games. I may not agree with your opinions or conclusions but at least I understand them since you express them cogently.
Look, no, here’s the problem between us: I’m optimistic about the uncertain and you’re uncertain about optimists. That’s where most of the tension comes from.
Look, no, here’s the problem between us: I’m optimistic about the uncertain and you’re uncertain about optimists. That’s where most of the tension comes from.
Funny I always thought it was because instead of expressing your opinions as opinions you formulated them as facts and came across as the oracle of delphi on any all subjects in regards to any all subjects about Apple and treated anyone that disagreed with your assessment as a neophyte worthy of disdain and ridicule.