I don't expect you to know about the many years he has harangued and harassed me which was infinitely worse when he had the power of being a mod on his side. I suppose if I only had this one thread to go by it would appear I am fixated on this one issue but I assure you there is a very long backstory and reason I pointed this out. Certainly a person can speak about a product they do not own intelligently. But when I have spoken of very specific issues with iOS or my iPhones that I actually use he has called me an idiot or that I was wrong. Would you not agree that without owning a more modern than 1st gen iPhone you cannot summarily dismiss or refute a very specific issue without owning one yourself? It is fine to speak about generalities but not user specific issues as he has often done. You can be surly and acerbic but I can at least respect your opinions and you don't mince words or play games. I may not agree with your opinions or conclusions but at least I understand them since you express them cogently.
Since it is a 1st gen iPhone I am not sure I get your meaning.
You are the one that decided to chime in to tell me I was wrong and that definitely had to be a newer phone than a 1st gen since it was running iOS 7. Pretty silly to jump into a discussion, take a position, then when you are proven wrong to counter with why did your reply take so many words. It matters because he constantly berates any opinion I ever have over the iPhone and wants to come across as the resident iPhone expert on all things Apple when in fact he won't even support the company by buying an iPhone.
Huh? It's running iOS 7. You claim it's a jailbreak/skin- and I claim it might not be. The truth is neither of us know the truth- it could be either. There is no "I proved you wrong" because you didn't.. But the other truth is- I don't care one way or the other. You on the other hand, are getting a hard on over this- and for what? If you're proven right, you get to hold a scorecard over a random Internet forum member? If you're wrong, you just move along? It's so dumb and trivial- its kinda pathetic really.
Edit: just read your explanation above to Soli- I get that, but still- why bother? I've had retorts with tallest, but I don't fixate on them. If you really hate him and you clearly can't communicate- then why not simply block him? Why the unnecessary drama?
"One-handed" actually means "one-thumbed" and my lone thumb can't provide decent control. If at all possible... I use two hands like you described: one hand holding the phone and the other hand's index finger providing the input.
I can send a text message with one hand (one thumb) thanks to the keyboard being at the bottom of the screen.
But there is soooo much more I do with my phone. Pinching and zooming? Needs two hands. Multi-finger gestures? Needs two hands.
And if I'm banging out a lot of text... I flip over to the landscape keyboard. Two hands.
I'm ready for a larger screen... my eyes are ready for a larger screen. My pockets can handle it.
My lone thumb? Not worried... he didn't get a lot of solo action anyway!
Totally with you. The phone already has too many functions better served by the index finger or two thumbs, than with one thumb.
Notice Jobs showed the first iPhone with the INDEX finger graphic...not a thumb.
Huh? It's running iOS 7. You claim it's a jailbreak/skin- and I claim it might not be.
Oh, it’s not. Whited00r does a semi-passable job of converting the UI to iOS 7-esque stuff. Apparently in poor photo conditions, it does better than semi.
Notice I still haven’t posted an image showing Settings for him. This is on purpose.
EDIT: Wow, still that dark, huh. That’s what I get for borrowing a crappy point and shoot.
Is 4.7" considered a phablet these days? Or is it becoming normal?
I don't know what Apple's market research reveals... but do they expect to stay at 4" forever?
I realize Apple's 4" phone is the best-selling smartphone on Earth... but clearly something is up.
Honestly... I wish Apple would start making a range of current iPhones. They do that with iPads, iMacs, Macbooks...
4.7" is not a phablet, 5.5" is. Anything bigger than 5" should not be considered a phone.
The 4.7" iPhone is going to be great for people with bigger hands.
I agree Apple should start making a range of iPhones like they do with the iPad:
iPhone mini = a sub 500$ iPhone*
iPhone = the 4.7" iPhone.
(*) I really hope Apple is ditching the 4" iPhone in favor of the original 3.5" iPhone. There's not much difference between 4" and 4.7" as there is between 3.5" and 4.7".
I really hope Apple is ditching the 4" iPhone in favor of the original 3.5" iPhone. There's not much difference between 4" and 4.7" as there is between 3.5" and 4.7".
I presume you mean this the other way around. And I would agree. In fact, if they let me choose between a 3.5" and a 4.7" display I probably choose the former. Or to be more precise, a smaller FF would be preference. I will however need to go into a Store to feel them both in my hand and try to see its pocketability.
Hypothetical question to all: would you buy a 5.5" iPhone if that was the only available model and you are already enjoying many paid apps and their ecosystem?
I really hope you're right, the endless nonsense of iPhone numbering is so terribly boring. Apple seem to have escaped it with the iPad, here's hoping they put it to rest with the iPhone.
Endless nonsense is an apt description of your posts.
I presume you mean this the other way around. And I would agree. In fact, if they let me choose between a 3.5" and a 4.7" display I probably choose the former. Or to be more precise, a smaller FF would be preference. I will however need to go into a Store to feel them both in my hand and try to see its pocketability.
Hypothetical question to all: would you buy a 5.5" iPhone if that was the only available model and you are already enjoying many paid apps and their ecosystem?
I would for sure. In fact, if 4.7 or 5.5 were the only options, I'd pick 5.5 still I think. I'd have to try it out first. If it was clumsy or felt awful, I'd stick to 4.7.
Even if 4.7/5.5 is the only option, what other choice do you have? Even if android didn't suck, what choice do you have? There isn't a decent <4" phone jut there- speaking from a hardware perspective. The top end android or windows phones are all large.
I would for sure. In fact, if 4.7 or 5.5 were the only options, I'd pick 5.5 still I think. I'd have to try it out first. If it was clumsy or felt awful, I'd stick to 4.7.
Thanks. So, 5.5". Do you also have an iPad mini, or would you choose a large iPad plus a 5.5" iPhone?
Even if 4.7/5.5 is the only option, what other choice do you have? Even if android didn't suck, what choice do you have? There isn't a decent <4" phone jut there- speaking from a hardware perspective. The top end android or windows phones are all large.
I know, nothing compares to iOS. Still, I do think MS made a reasonable OS and I think I'd go with them over Android. Despite their market share they do have an App Store that seems to fulfill my 'needs'. One thing a WP8 phone [sic] that I need it to do is iTunes sync, plus ease of use in getting photos on and off the device. With MS, that might be clumsy. But I do like surprises.
I presume you mean this the other way around. And I would agree. In fact, if they let me choose between a 3.5" and a 4.7" display I probably choose the former. Or to be more precise, a smaller FF would be preference. I will however need to go into a Store to feel them both in my hand and try to see its pocketability.
Hypothetical question to all: would you buy a 5.5" iPhone if that was the only available model and you are already enjoying many paid apps and their ecosystem?
No. 5.5" is neither big enough to be productive nor small enough to use it at all times. I'd have an iPod Touch with a feature phone.
Yes, I mean Apple should offer both the 3.5" and 4.7". The 4" doesn't make much sense.
I was going to just straight upvote this, but you mentioned 4.7” as viable. I think you’re dead on about everything else, though.
hello Tallest Skill,
Think about it. Some people have small hands, others are blessed with big hands.
Apple is planning to do the same with the rumored iWatch: Have one model for small (female) wrists and one for bigger (male) wrists. It is about proportion and ergonomics.
The 4.7" does make sense to a certain demographic. My hands are more suited to the smaller 3.5" iPhone.
Thanks. So, 5.5". Do you also have an iPad mini, or would you choose a large iPad plus a 5.5" iPhone?
I know, nothing compares to iOS. Still, I do think MS made a reasonable OS and I think I'd go with them over Android. Despite their market share they do have an App Store that seems to fulfill my 'needs'. One thing a WP8 phone [sic] that I need it to do is iTunes sync, plus ease of use in getting photos on and off the device. With MS, that might be clumsy. But I do like surprises.
I have a full sized iPad. If I had the mini- I wouldn't opt for a 5.5. My wife, for example- has a mini- and she actually wants to stick to the 4" size.
I like what Windows 8.1 has done also- the flagship Nokia that is running 8.1 is the Nokia 930 or Icon- both of which are 5".
I will note- 1 handed use is not very important to me, as I use 2 hands in almost everything I do- outside of talking on the phone.
I have a full sized iPad. If I had the mini- I wouldn't opt for a 5.5. My wife, for example- has a mini- and she actually wants to stick to the 4" size.
I like what Windows 8.1 has done also- the flagship Nokia that is running 8.1 is the Nokia 930 or Icon- both of which are 5". :D
I will note- 1 handed use is not very important to me, as I use 2 hands in almost everything I do- outside of talking on the phone.
I agree. Not only on the iPad / iPhone combo, but also on the choice of WP8 if there was no iOS.
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That's an exceptional reply.
Huh? It's running iOS 7. You claim it's a jailbreak/skin- and I claim it might not be. The truth is neither of us know the truth- it could be either. There is no "I proved you wrong" because you didn't.. But the other truth is- I don't care one way or the other. You on the other hand, are getting a hard on over this- and for what? If you're proven right, you get to hold a scorecard over a random Internet forum member? If you're wrong, you just move along? It's so dumb and trivial- its kinda pathetic really.
Edit: just read your explanation above to Soli- I get that, but still- why bother? I've had retorts with tallest, but I don't fixate on them. If you really hate him and you clearly can't communicate- then why not simply block him? Why the unnecessary drama?
Exactly!
"One-handed" actually means "one-thumbed" and my lone thumb can't provide decent control. If at all possible... I use two hands like you described: one hand holding the phone and the other hand's index finger providing the input.
I can send a text message with one hand (one thumb) thanks to the keyboard being at the bottom of the screen.
But there is soooo much more I do with my phone. Pinching and zooming? Needs two hands. Multi-finger gestures? Needs two hands.
And if I'm banging out a lot of text... I flip over to the landscape keyboard. Two hands.
I'm ready for a larger screen... my eyes are ready for a larger screen. My pockets can handle it.
My lone thumb? Not worried... he didn't get a lot of solo action anyway!
Totally with you. The phone already has too many functions better served by the index finger or two thumbs, than with one thumb.
Notice Jobs showed the first iPhone with the INDEX finger graphic...not a thumb.
Oh, it’s not. Whited00r does a semi-passable job of converting the UI to iOS 7-esque stuff. Apparently in poor photo conditions, it does better than semi.
Notice I still haven’t posted an image showing Settings for him. This is on purpose.
EDIT: Wow, still that dark, huh. That’s what I get for borrowing a crappy point and shoot.
Is 4.7" considered a phablet these days? Or is it becoming normal?
I don't know what Apple's market research reveals... but do they expect to stay at 4" forever?
I realize Apple's 4" phone is the best-selling smartphone on Earth... but clearly something is up.
Honestly... I wish Apple would start making a range of current iPhones. They do that with iPads, iMacs, Macbooks...
4.7" is not a phablet, 5.5" is. Anything bigger than 5" should not be considered a phone.
The 4.7" iPhone is going to be great for people with bigger hands.
I agree Apple should start making a range of iPhones like they do with the iPad:
iPhone mini = a sub 500$ iPhone*
iPhone = the 4.7" iPhone.
(*) I really hope Apple is ditching the 4" iPhone in favor of the original 3.5" iPhone. There's not much difference between 4" and 4.7" as there is between 3.5" and 4.7".
I presume you mean this the other way around. And I would agree. In fact, if they let me choose between a 3.5" and a 4.7" display I probably choose the former. Or to be more precise, a smaller FF would be preference. I will however need to go into a Store to feel them both in my hand and try to see its pocketability.
Hypothetical question to all: would you buy a 5.5" iPhone if that was the only available model and you are already enjoying many paid apps and their ecosystem?
Endless nonsense is an apt description of your posts.
I would for sure. In fact, if 4.7 or 5.5 were the only options, I'd pick 5.5 still I think. I'd have to try it out first. If it was clumsy or felt awful, I'd stick to 4.7.
Even if 4.7/5.5 is the only option, what other choice do you have? Even if android didn't suck, what choice do you have? There isn't a decent <4" phone jut there- speaking from a hardware perspective. The top end android or windows phones are all large.
Thanks. So, 5.5". Do you also have an iPad mini, or would you choose a large iPad plus a 5.5" iPhone?
I know, nothing compares to iOS. Still, I do think MS made a reasonable OS and I think I'd go with them over Android. Despite their market share they do have an App Store that seems to fulfill my 'needs'. One thing a WP8 phone [sic] that I need it to do is iTunes sync, plus ease of use in getting photos on and off the device. With MS, that might be clumsy. But I do like surprises.
I presume you mean this the other way around. And I would agree. In fact, if they let me choose between a 3.5" and a 4.7" display I probably choose the former. Or to be more precise, a smaller FF would be preference. I will however need to go into a Store to feel them both in my hand and try to see its pocketability.
Hypothetical question to all: would you buy a 5.5" iPhone if that was the only available model and you are already enjoying many paid apps and their ecosystem?
No. 5.5" is neither big enough to be productive nor small enough to use it at all times. I'd have an iPod Touch with a feature phone.
Yes, I mean Apple should offer both the 3.5" and 4.7". The 4" doesn't make much sense.
Yes, I mean Apple should offer both the 3.5" and 4.7". The 4" doesn't make much sense.
I was going to just straight upvote this, but you mentioned 4.7” as viable.
I think you’re dead on about everything else, though.
I was going to just straight upvote this, but you mentioned 4.7” as viable.
I think you’re dead on about everything else, though.
hello Tallest Skill,
Think about it. Some people have small hands, others are blessed with big hands.
Apple is planning to do the same with the rumored iWatch: Have one model for small (female) wrists and one for bigger (male) wrists. It is about proportion and ergonomics.
The 4.7" does make sense to a certain demographic. My hands are more suited to the smaller 3.5" iPhone.
"That works for me."
Yes, and 4.7” is too big even for big hands.
Since when?! Haven’t heard that rumor. Interesting that we’re calling the iWatch fact now, too.
Good to know you're around to fight the important fights.
Thanks. So, 5.5". Do you also have an iPad mini, or would you choose a large iPad plus a 5.5" iPhone?
I know, nothing compares to iOS. Still, I do think MS made a reasonable OS and I think I'd go with them over Android. Despite their market share they do have an App Store that seems to fulfill my 'needs'. One thing a WP8 phone [sic] that I need it to do is iTunes sync, plus ease of use in getting photos on and off the device. With MS, that might be clumsy. But I do like surprises.
I have a full sized iPad. If I had the mini- I wouldn't opt for a 5.5. My wife, for example- has a mini- and she actually wants to stick to the 4" size.
I like what Windows 8.1 has done also- the flagship Nokia that is running 8.1 is the Nokia 930 or Icon- both of which are 5".
I will note- 1 handed use is not very important to me, as I use 2 hands in almost everything I do- outside of talking on the phone.
I agree. Not only on the iPad / iPhone combo, but also on the choice of WP8 if there was no iOS.