My guess is Apple may have to tweak its devices to respond to competitors. It's seen some watches, some health monitoring, so they're likely good there. Responding to the Amazon phone with 3D capability may take some time.
My guess is Apple may have to tweak its devices to respond to competitors. It's seen some watches, some health monitoring, so they're likely good there. Responding to the Amazon phone with 3D capability may take some time.
Amazon phone? Yeah I'm sure Apple is spending time thinking about that.
Still think a surprise is coming at WWDC. If you're Cook and tired of leaks, wouldn't you maybe allow for a leak that casts doubt that anything new is coming? I do know that design work is done on a new product line. I have no idea how long something takes to be announced after design, but surely not that long.
The nMP last year was a complete surprise. I don't remember seeing any leaks on that, certainly not any photos of the hardware. If it's a brand new hardware product that isn't going to be on sale right away Apple might be able to keep it a surprise. Still, my gut feeling is Apple leaked this to temper expectations not throw people off. I would love to be wrong though.
Then this is what Cook should be saying all the time. When you say new products "across 2014" naturally people are going to wonder where they are. The buying season doesn't just consist of October, Novemer and December. I'm hoping these spec bumped MBAs mean we'll a new MacBook model at WWDC.
Cook became CEO in 2011. Not even three years ago.
I remember Jobs creating new product categories every quarter and never has more than a one day gap between breakthroughs. Oh that never happened? You mean there was 6 years between the iPod and iPhone? Jobs should have been fired for that innovation gap.
Originally Posted by asdasd
I have no idea why supposed Apple fans feel the kind of loyalty to Cook which allows them to piss on Jobs' legacy. In the first 3 years he saves the company.
I believe you completely missed the sarcasm in jungmark's post.
Tim Cook is the one who said Apple had "big plans" for this year. He's the one who told WSJ and analysts that Apple would be announcing new product categories this year. I'm just voicing concern that they're all seemingly going to happen in September and October. Last years iPad event felt really rushed (Apple spent next to no time demonstrating the benefit of 64 bit on the iPad) because Apple crammed in a bunch of product announcements all at one time. Is it impossible for them to space things out a bit so we don't have these long lulls and then a bunch of products announced all at once? Might be good for people's budgets too....so they're able to spread out purchases more.
What do you think is more important for Apple, a) spacing out product launches to please bloggers, Wall Street analysts and competitors, or b) launching products when they're ready, at optimal times for the holiday shopping season and to prevent competitors from copying in time for said shopping season?
I can't stand Samsung but they did get it right with having the Galaxy product line announced in the spring and the Note line in the fall. They have both halves of the year covered.
Samsung Galaxy S5 sales may disappoint in the first three months
***Also note, when reading anything about Samsung sales stats, that a) they only announce "shipment" numbers rather than actual "sales" and b) they routinely lie about sales numbers, as proven in court documents during trials with Apple.
What do you think is more important for Apple, a) spacing out product launches to please bloggers, Wall Street analysts and competitors, or b) launching products when they're ready, at optimal times for the holiday shopping season and to prevent competitors from copying in time for said shopping season?
Which is it? When ready or in time for the Christmas season? These are not equivalent.
The problem is Cook said new products across 2014. Albeit in an internal menu. If nothing is discussed at WWDC then new products are unlikely later in the year as any serious new product requires an SDK. We might get upgrades to the entire line but that wouldn't be new products unless Cook means that the bigger screened iPhones - which seem to be locked down now - are the new products.
Sure, but it wasn't clear; maybe preface it with 'Precisely' or something similar.
I wasn't agreeing with him.
Jungmark was dismissing Jobs' record with sarcasm. Not very good sarcasm either. The sarcasm didn't change his meaning, sarcasm is not irony. I then responded to his post - which questioned Jobs' record to defend Cook's tenure - by disagreeing that Jobs' record was as limited as he made out.
Jungmark was dismissing Jobs' record with sarcasm. Not very good sarcasm either. The sarcasm didn't change his meaning, sarcasm is not irony. I then responded to his post - which questioned Jobs' record to defend Cook's tenure - by disagreeing that Jobs' record was as limited as he made out.
Ah - then you did indeed misunderstand Jungmark's pointed and accurate sarcasm. He was disparaging people who put Jobs down, not disparaging Jobs himself.
What do you think is more important for Apple, a) spacing out product launches to please bloggers, Wall Street analysts and competitors, or b) launching products when they're ready, at optimal times for the holiday shopping season and to prevent competitors from copying in time for said shopping season?
Since when is the holiday shopping season the only time people buy things? What about graduation, back to school, Mother's Day, Father's Day, etc. And how is spacing out product launches just pleasing bloggers? Seems like it makes good business sense to me.
***Also note, when reading anything about Samsung sales stats, that a) they only announce "shipment" numbers rather than actual "sales" and b) they routinely lie about sales numbers, as proven in court documents during trials with Apple.
What does any of this have to do with what I said? I didn't say anything about sales figures. I was talking about them having a big product launch in the spring and then again in the fall, having both halves of the year covered. And as far as shipped vs. sold, Apple reports shipped figures as well. Hence why Tim Cook spent so much time on Apple's earnings call explaining why the 16% YOY iPad decline wasn't as bad as it looked.
Apple should only reveal "iWatch" - again, if they are even making it - when they are good and ready. There would be a ton of pressure on such a product, so Apple need to bake it properly.
I would be very happy to see an update to OS X and iOS, even if that's all we get.
For OS X in particular, I'd love to see the visual overhaul, as I think it's somewhat overdue (despite OS X still looking pretty great).
I also think it'll be great to see continued movement on iOS, especially in anticipation of the next iPhone release.
So, either way, I'm happy.
It would be good to see some kind of Apple TV update, but I am not interested in minor iterative updates to that product. I'd be more interested if we saw a radical new Apple TV that incorporates some of the speculated features people have been discussing recently (especially a much better navigation/control mechanism and an App Store, etc...)
Jungmark was dismissing Jobs' record with sarcasm. Not very good sarcasm either. The sarcasm didn't change his meaning, sarcasm is not irony. I then responded to his post - which questioned Jobs' record to defend Cook's tenure - by disagreeing that Jobs' record was as limited as he made out.
I wasn't disparaging Jobs. Don't bring up bullshit like that.
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Maybe the TV perhaps but not this moronic watch.
Cook became CEO in 2011. Not even three years ago.
I remember Jobs creating new product categories every quarter and never has more than a one day gap between breakthroughs. Oh that never happened? You mean there was 6 years between the iPod and iPhone? Jobs should have been fired for that innovation gap.
Originally Posted by asdasd
I have no idea why supposed Apple fans feel the kind of loyalty to Cook which allows them to piss on Jobs' legacy. In the first 3 years he saves the company.
I believe you completely missed the sarcasm in jungmark's post.
Tim Cook is the one who said Apple had "big plans" for this year. He's the one who told WSJ and analysts that Apple would be announcing new product categories this year. I'm just voicing concern that they're all seemingly going to happen in September and October. Last years iPad event felt really rushed (Apple spent next to no time demonstrating the benefit of 64 bit on the iPad) because Apple crammed in a bunch of product announcements all at one time. Is it impossible for them to space things out a bit so we don't have these long lulls and then a bunch of products announced all at once? Might be good for people's budgets too....so they're able to spread out purchases more.
What do you think is more important for Apple, a) spacing out product launches to please bloggers, Wall Street analysts and competitors, or b) launching products when they're ready, at optimal times for the holiday shopping season and to prevent competitors from copying in time for said shopping season?
I can't stand Samsung but they did get it right with having the Galaxy product line announced in the spring and the Note line in the fall. They have both halves of the year covered.
Samsung Galaxy S5 sales may disappoint in the first three months
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Analyst-Samsung-Galaxy-S5-sales-may-disappoint-in-the-first-three-months_id53711
Samsung Galaxy Gear smartwatch sales disappointing
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/others/news/samsung-galaxy-gear-smartwatch-sales-disappointing-report-448032 ;
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 pre-order sales disappointing in South Korea
http://www.talkandroid.com/176561-samsung-galaxy-note-3-pre-order-sales-disappointing-in-south-korea/
***Also note, when reading anything about Samsung sales stats, that a) they only announce "shipment" numbers rather than actual "sales" and b) they routinely lie about sales numbers, as proven in court documents during trials with Apple.
No I was responding to the sarcasm in his posts.
Which is it? When ready or in time for the Christmas season? These are not equivalent.
The problem is Cook said new products across 2014. Albeit in an internal menu. If nothing is discussed at WWDC then new products are unlikely later in the year as any serious new product requires an SDK. We might get upgrades to the entire line but that wouldn't be new products unless Cook means that the bigger screened iPhones - which seem to be locked down now - are the new products.
It's easy to predict supply/demand in hindsight. I'd rather have more demand than supply on release.
No I was responding to the sarcasm in his posts.
Sure, but it wasn't clear; maybe preface it with 'Precisely' or something similar.
I wasn't agreeing with him.
Jungmark was dismissing Jobs' record with sarcasm. Not very good sarcasm either. The sarcasm didn't change his meaning, sarcasm is not irony. I then responded to his post - which questioned Jobs' record to defend Cook's tenure - by disagreeing that Jobs' record was as limited as he made out.
I wasn't agreeing with him.
Is this remedial school?
Jungmark was dismissing Jobs' record with sarcasm. Not very good sarcasm either. The sarcasm didn't change his meaning, sarcasm is not irony. I then responded to his post - which questioned Jobs' record to defend Cook's tenure - by disagreeing that Jobs' record was as limited as he made out.
Ah - then you did indeed misunderstand Jungmark's pointed and accurate sarcasm. He was disparaging people who put Jobs down, not disparaging Jobs himself.
I'm not very fussed either way.
Apple should only reveal "iWatch" - again, if they are even making it - when they are good and ready. There would be a ton of pressure on such a product, so Apple need to bake it properly.
I would be very happy to see an update to OS X and iOS, even if that's all we get.
For OS X in particular, I'd love to see the visual overhaul, as I think it's somewhat overdue (despite OS X still looking pretty great).
I also think it'll be great to see continued movement on iOS, especially in anticipation of the next iPhone release.
So, either way, I'm happy.
It would be good to see some kind of Apple TV update, but I am not interested in minor iterative updates to that product. I'd be more interested if we saw a radical new Apple TV that incorporates some of the speculated features people have been discussing recently (especially a much better navigation/control mechanism and an App Store, etc...)
I wasn't disparaging Jobs. Don't bring up bullshit like that.
If you don't understand it, that's on you.
Give Apple a chance and stop being in such a rush.