Let's FILE A CLASS ACTION SUIT Against NASD, NASD Regulation, Nasdaq Stock Market and Against ALL Those Concerned with " Manipulating Market ", " Fraud Transactions " and " Runaway EXPOITATION " Relating to AAPL out of Market !
Regardless that YOU HAVE READ Michael Lewis's " FLASH BOYS : A Wall Street REVOLT ", Whai is Described in The Book Has LONG Been " PUBLIC TABOO " Among Those WHO Are Engaged in MARKET BUSINESS.
It's HIGH TIME for All The Sincere and Healthy Stock Owners of AAPL All Over The World to Do THAT, Demanding Thorough COMPENSATION FOR THE LOSS during THESE 24 Months Since 2012 including ALL THE PROFITS that Could Have Been Gained without Nasty Mal-Practices by VILLAIN, Demanding THOROUGH Investigations on Present ENTITY OF TRANSACTIONS, FULL DETAILS on Activities and Transaction Histories of High Fequency Traders Such As " Getco " and " Night Capital " Together With What-is-Called " Front Running EXPLOITATION " by Them, and ALSO Demanding Full Investigation on " Algorithm Tradings " which is Said to be A Main Factor that Caused " *Flash Clash " Happened in Wall Street in 2010 " .
IN THE SIX YEARS SINCE the Collapse of Lehman Bros. ( Sep. 2008 ) that STUNNED The World and STOLE The Half of WORLD's Value, We Expected " World Would Be BETEER FOR THIS - Learning Lessons out of Collapse Caused by Villain's MALICIOUS FINANCIAL PRACTICES.
But, Then Again, The Situation NOW Looks MORE AND MORE AGGRAVATING, DETERIORATING, Simply WORSENED !!!!!!
Government's and Concerned Institutions( Such As SEC & CFTC )' Role As A Watch Dog NEVER FANCTION NOW !
Because Many of Ex-Top of SEC Have Been Recruited for VILLAIN's Side ( Such As Getco ) These Years.
Are you and Brian Tariano on a tandem bike? You guys keep pedaling and keep pedaling.
You literally just told me everything it said was right, but then try to distract me by saying "look over here- apple is bad too" thinking I'll forget about samsung?
Apples and oranges man. Samsung is the worst of the worst of the worst. You need to educate yourself. I get it- you don't like apple. Fine. Don't. Go buy an HTC, LG, Nokia, Nexus- anything. Defending samsung makes you, also, look like a scumbag.
Um...I like Apple just fine thank you. Have bought many of their products and will continue to do so in the future. I also have never said Samsung is free and clear of being guilty. Samsung does things I don't agree with on many occasions as does Apple. It just seems that you think Apple is guilt free and does absolutely no wrong. Ever.
Judge Koh seems to be giving Samsung huge cuts, the same thing happened in the last trial. Although Apple won, she kinda sliced the amount to insignificance. It seems Samsung is actually coming out on top in these trials, their penalty is marginal in comparison to the profits they raked in.
In terms of raw numbers, I think it's safe to say Apple is disappointed and Samsung is happy, though both will spin it to high heaven. For better or for worse, it probably doesn't materially change the conversation either as their products have continued to diverge over the last couple years.
As current Samsung products use the workarounds approved by the ITC, I'm curious where this continues to go. Apple can and should continue to collect damages for past products that infringed before the workarounds were implemented, but it's chump change for both companies. Apple hasn't gained any patent traction outside the US, and there's not going to be any injunction in the US against products as the workarounds are approved, and some patents are apparently on their way to being Posnered, aka overturned.
So the lawyers will continue to litigate for years to come and collect tens of millions of dollars in fees, but IMO this is a story where the volume goes down from here. Both companies now compete where they should - in the marketplace with differentiated products.
Wait - weren't these patents covered by the agreement with Google? So whatever the end amount ends up being Samsung has to pay, that it'll actually come out of Google's pockets?
People (and trolls/haters) like you tend to ignore penalties and try to convert this to a black and white affair as if all companies who do something wrong are all equal. They aren't. If you commit a crime you could get a weekend in jail or 50 years in prison. Depends on the severity of that crime.
Samsung has to pay 757 times as much as Apple does. Clearly Apples patents are far more valuable and/or Samsung was the bigger thief.
Reading Foss over the last few weeks it's clear he's switched sides. While I gave him the benefit of the doubt for having critical opinions of Apple, it's now clear that something's up.
So because Foss thinks this is all BS as well he switched sides and something is up? No one is allowed to have critical opinions of Apple if they are justified? Especially a person like Foss?
American justice has decreed that crime does indeed pay. Why bother being good? Why not try getting away with as much as possible? I guess if you're an atheist, you now have a creed for life: follow Samsung.
Samsung and the lawyers are the clear victors here. I wonder if the legal fees cost more than the $120MM pittance Apple will receive?
There is no freaking way. $120,000,000.00? That is enough to employ 60-100 US white color salaries for 10 years or buy six hundred $200k homes. If one damn lawyer made $1 million a year which would be huge, it would pay for 120 of those scum bags. No way they had 120 lawyers on this for a year each. Seems like in the days of $12B What'sApp acquisition, people are loosing realistic grasp of how large $120M is.
Hahaha - this just makes me laugh so hard. The verdict is in people. Judge Koh ain't going to be feeling sorry for Apple and reward them $2b.
Now, Apple will appeal (ofcourse) as will Samsung. Another 2 years of this to keep the entertainment going.
In the meantime, Android will keep getting stronger. Mind you, hopefully Apple will hurt Samsung a bit (it won't but you can hope), for trying to now go on it's own direction (Tizen) away from Android.
Meh, a wins a win. This was more of a symbolic trial anyway, meant to send a message. 119M is peanuts.. But 158K? Apple makes that in what, a few seconds?
There is no freaking way. $120,000,000,000.00? That is enough to employ 60-100 US white color salaries for 10 years or buy six hundred $200k homes. If one damn lawyer made $1 million a year, it would pay for 120 lawyers. Seems like in the days of $12B What'sApp acquisition, people are loosing realistic grasp of how large $120M is.
I thought these lawyers made a couple grand an hour and had teams of lawyers on each side for a case that I thought took a couple years to get to this point.
Samsung and the lawyers are the clear victors here. I wonder if the legal fees cost more than the $120MM pittance Apple will receive?
Again. It's not JUST 120mil. It tarnishes samsung a little more, they have substantially more negotiating power on patent use agreements, and it sets the president for future cases- including the S4, note, etc which is the next on the platter.
They're going up the list of ohones and patents a few at a time. Every time they get further prescient set. It's a bigger ruling than it looks.
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That is about 15 cents a share boost for AAPL if the verdict were paid in full. This should not effect the stock price.
Let's FILE A CLASS ACTION SUIT Against NASD, NASD Regulation, Nasdaq Stock Market and Against ALL Those Concerned with " Manipulating Market ", " Fraud Transactions " and " Runaway EXPOITATION " Relating to AAPL out of Market !
Regardless that YOU HAVE READ Michael Lewis's " FLASH BOYS : A Wall Street REVOLT ", Whai is Described in The Book Has LONG Been " PUBLIC TABOO " Among Those WHO Are Engaged in MARKET BUSINESS.
It's HIGH TIME for All The Sincere and Healthy Stock Owners of AAPL All Over The World to Do THAT, Demanding Thorough COMPENSATION FOR THE LOSS during THESE 24 Months Since 2012 including ALL THE PROFITS that Could Have Been Gained without Nasty Mal-Practices by VILLAIN, Demanding THOROUGH Investigations on Present ENTITY OF TRANSACTIONS, FULL DETAILS on Activities and Transaction Histories of High Fequency Traders Such As " Getco " and " Night Capital " Together With What-is-Called " Front Running EXPLOITATION " by Them, and ALSO Demanding Full Investigation on " Algorithm Tradings " which is Said to be A Main Factor that Caused " *Flash Clash " Happened in Wall Street in 2010 " .
IN THE SIX YEARS SINCE the Collapse of Lehman Bros. ( Sep. 2008 ) that STUNNED The World and STOLE The Half of WORLD's Value, We Expected " World Would Be BETEER FOR THIS - Learning Lessons out of Collapse Caused by Villain's MALICIOUS FINANCIAL PRACTICES.
But, Then Again, The Situation NOW Looks MORE AND MORE AGGRAVATING, DETERIORATING, Simply WORSENED !!!!!!
Government's and Concerned Institutions( Such As SEC & CFTC )' Role As A Watch Dog NEVER FANCTION NOW !
Because Many of Ex-Top of SEC Have Been Recruited for VILLAIN's Side ( Such As Getco ) These Years.
We Need An ACTION NOW. Otherwise THIS.
Ahh my EYES!!!
Um...I like Apple just fine thank you. Have bought many of their products and will continue to do so in the future. I also have never said Samsung is free and clear of being guilty. Samsung does things I don't agree with on many occasions as does Apple. It just seems that you think Apple is guilt free and does absolutely no wrong. Ever.
It seems Samsung is actually coming out on top in these trials, their penalty is marginal in comparison to the profits they raked in.
In terms of raw numbers, I think it's safe to say Apple is disappointed and Samsung is happy, though both will spin it to high heaven. For better or for worse, it probably doesn't materially change the conversation either as their products have continued to diverge over the last couple years.
As current Samsung products use the workarounds approved by the ITC, I'm curious where this continues to go. Apple can and should continue to collect damages for past products that infringed before the workarounds were implemented, but it's chump change for both companies. Apple hasn't gained any patent traction outside the US, and there's not going to be any injunction in the US against products as the workarounds are approved, and some patents are apparently on their way to being Posnered, aka overturned.
So the lawyers will continue to litigate for years to come and collect tens of millions of dollars in fees, but IMO this is a story where the volume goes down from here. Both companies now compete where they should - in the marketplace with differentiated products.
nullify the jury verdict and issue a directed verdict from the bench.
Wait - weren't these patents covered by the agreement with Google? So whatever the end amount ends up being Samsung has to pay, that it'll actually come out of Google's pockets?
I suspect that the judge will
nullify the jury verdict and issue a directed verdict from the bench.
just a gut feeling or do you have something to base this on?
So because Foss thinks this is all BS as well he switched sides and something is up? No one is allowed to have critical opinions of Apple if they are justified? Especially a person like Foss?
Gut feeling based on experience,
American justice has decreed that crime does indeed pay. Why bother being good? Why not try getting away with as much as possible? I guess if you're an atheist, you now have a creed for life: follow Samsung.
Samsung and the lawyers are the clear victors here. I wonder if the legal fees cost more than the $120MM pittance Apple will receive?
There is no freaking way. $120,000,000.00? That is enough to employ 60-100 US white color salaries for 10 years or buy six hundred $200k homes. If one damn lawyer made $1 million a year which would be huge, it would pay for 120 of those scum bags. No way they had 120 lawyers on this for a year each. Seems like in the days of $12B What'sApp acquisition, people are loosing realistic grasp of how large $120M is.
Gut feeling based on experience,
Hahaha - this just makes me laugh so hard. The verdict is in people. Judge Koh ain't going to be feeling sorry for Apple and reward them $2b.
Now, Apple will appeal (ofcourse) as will Samsung. Another 2 years of this to keep the entertainment going.
In the meantime, Android will keep getting stronger. Mind you, hopefully Apple will hurt Samsung a bit (it won't but you can hope), for trying to now go on it's own direction (Tizen) away from Android.
I suspect that the judge will
nullify the jury verdict and issue a directed verdict from the bench.
I'm sure she will meet with Santa and the Easter Bunny in chambers first. The Tooth Fairly wasn't available.
What do you think she would rule if this came about?
There is no freaking way. $120,000,000,000.00? That is enough to employ 60-100 US white color salaries for 10 years or buy six hundred $200k homes.
You've gotten a bit excited there with the 0's my friend. Take down a notch, but reducing $119, 980, 000, 000.00 off the amount you quoted. lol
I thought these lawyers made a couple grand an hour and had teams of lawyers on each side for a case that I thought took a couple years to get to this point.
Again. It's not JUST 120mil. It tarnishes samsung a little more, they have substantially more negotiating power on patent use agreements, and it sets the president for future cases- including the S4, note, etc which is the next on the platter.
They're going up the list of ohones and patents a few at a time. Every time they get further prescient set. It's a bigger ruling than it looks.