I don't want to channel ballmer and gates, but this device isn't going to set the mobile world on fire...
So untrue. Developers make products successful. tt92618 is excited about it. And what is tt92618? A developer developer developer!!
Huh! One freaking developer want's to beat his brains out by not developing for the lowest common denominator Android phone? This is beyond pathetic. This POS will sell for a few months like the Disney phone, or the Kin, or the ESPN phone. Anyone remember any of them?
That last sentence I don't follow. is that [sarcasm] or [smile]?
2) things that you didn't factor
1) Prime users switching TO ATT. If your wireless connection is just a big pipe, and you're a heavy Prime user. You may buy this phone and switch.
2) Trade Downs within contracts... getting a 2nd phone passing down a hand me down iPhone 4s or 5.
my guess is that Amazon would Like to see 400K a month in sales US. which is huge. and probably doubling next year as they roll-out to other carriers /Market.
I do see this phone falling into anti 'Everything Else' phone. From an Amazon perspective, writing to iOS (easy), Fire (easy), Hot Samsung Phone/current Android version (easy), and lower support for everything else. Lower cost of support, higher consumer delight.
Can some one tell me why prime members like my self would buy this? All amazons prime apps are already on the iPhone. Prime music. Kindle books and amazon video
I have a feeling this will fail faster than Palm pre, and webos was actually a great os, just shitty hardware. And yes, it is all pretty fucking gimmicky, what niche is Amazon trying to fill here, with already having filled it with apps that do the same thing.
Most people won't want to be stuck in Amazon's limited world. The Phone Fire will not sell well--even worse than Kindle Fire about which we have no sales figures.
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Huh! One freaking developer want's to beat his brains out by not developing for the lowest common denominator Android phone? This is beyond pathetic. This POS will sell for a few months like the Disney phone, or the Kin, or the ESPN phone. Anyone remember any of them?
The Amazon phone is "landfill ready."
I was kidding. This phone is, like you said, landfill ready.
Is it September yet? Let the real phone announcement begin.
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There's no way I'd leave the Apple ecosystem but the Amazon Fire phone is obviously a good product for people who are totally married to the Amazon retail ecosystem. It's very much a case of vertical integration. It's no different than strategies that Sears employed back when they were still a relevant company. Sears store branded products didn't displace competing products from other vendors. I frankly don't know why Apple fans would get their skivvies in a twist about Amazon building this type of brand aligned product. I have no problem with multiple vendors having to duke it out to earn my business. What's the alternative? The last thing we need is another WIntel Dynasty Dark Ages that put us in an innovation morass for over a decade. Competition and survival of the fittest is a much better scenario for us as consumers.
The Firefly feature seems particularly well suited for Amazon customers who use brick and mortar stores like Best Buy, Borders, etc., to test drive and window shop products they ultimately buy on Amazon. I imagine Amazon's phone will easily suck up all of the shelf prices and product images from brick and mortar stores and tell you how to get the same product cheaper through Amazon. It's cute that Amazon will identify artworks for you, but you'd be naive to think they are doing this for your entertainment. Everything they do serves the singular purpose of getting you to buy more stuff from Amazon. But at the end of the day, that's basically the same goal of every retailer and product vendor on the planet.
I've also wondered this- as well as how the hell he can keep claiming the success of Kindle tablets when he hasn't release a single sales figure- ever. I guess we'll just take him at his word. Absolutely ridiculous. If they were proud of sales they would have publicized them. I have yet to see a SINGLE Kindle fire in real life- but we're to assume they're an incredible success.
IDC estimates Amazon Kindle Fire tablet sales. Not sure how accurate they are though.
Amazon only enters the Top 5 during the two quarters bordering Christmas... they are absent in the other two quarters.
But don't forget... the Kindle Fire is not available worldwide.
It's been said that Amazon's hardware only exists to get you to buy more stuff from Amazon. If they achieve that... then it's a success for them.
Ok, listen this is my issue in all fairness: I don't like the way that many posters here simply automatically dismiss everything that happens in the tech industry if it wasn't built by Apple. And I know that many will argue that this perspective is unfounded and untrue. But I think an honest examination of the stuff people post here will reveal otherwise.
No. You're being selective, not honest, and not fair.
If you were honest in examining the stuff people post here, you would include the reactionary drivel from the "Apple must innovate every 2 years or doomed" trolls, the "Timmy Cook is bean counting" trolls, the "Beats = crappy headphones" trolls, the "Steve Jobs would never..." trolls, the "Apple never truly invented anything" trolls. If you were honest, you would acknowledge that these people automatically dismiss everything that WAS built by Apple, because it's Apple. And if you were fair, you would equally take issue with people who automatically dismiss everything made by Apple.
Bottom line is: I don't see you this passionate about defending Apple when it is "automatically dismissed". Please explain how that is being fair.
The continuous scrolling for reading web pages/ books, etc is a pretty nice. Feature. Overall, it looks like they did a nice job on the phone. Certainly nowhere near enough to move me off my iPhone, but a nice job nonetheless. I hope Apple includes the auto-scrolling feature. It looks like a much better way to read on phones.
I've tried auto-scrolling; I hate it. It never moves at exactly the speed you want it to. Also, it feels odd—sometimes, one wants to dwell on a certain phrase, sometimes you want to skim through. With a physical book or Apple device, you control the speed with your finger—much easier, much more intuitive and you aren't consciously aware of it, so it doesn't get in the way of the content.
I'd like to know what Amazon was thinking with this... Killing Samsung? LG?
I like some of the hardware specs on Android devices, but the Android environment is a deal killer for me. Everything I've seen powered by Android other than a smartphone has been slow and crash prone. As for smart phone Androids, they fill the low-end niche, replacing dumb phones and feature phones. That is how everyone selling Android phones has been treating the Android ecosystem... throwaway trash. Apple has released 7 iPhones (and a few iPad models) since I last bought a cell phone, Samsung has released... 89 Samsung Galaxy branded devices. So, Apple releases one phone and/or tablet per year, Samsung releases 10. I'm not sure how anyone knows what they are buying.
So Amazon wants to jump into this as well? To sell their Amazon services and products? If that's the case, sell the phone at cost instead of trying to make it look like a high end device, because it certainly isn't, and this device will be absolutely useless outside the US, since Amazon doesn't offer streaming outside the US. (There's basically no incentive to have Amazon Prime outside the US, because it doesn't improve things when half the products are more expensive outside the US than ordering straight off the US site.)
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Huh! One freaking developer want's to beat his brains out by not developing for the lowest common denominator Android phone? This is beyond pathetic. This POS will sell for a few months like the Disney phone, or the Kin, or the ESPN phone. Anyone remember any of them?
The Amazon phone is "landfill ready."
I believe that you were saying that Amazon having a software issue immediately upon release was an inauspicious launch,
and I was merely pointing out that even apple has had software issues, in these cases not at the launch of a hardware product,
but when releasing something new they'd had some time to work…so, it even happens to my tech brand of choice.
If I didn't interpret your comment correctly, apologies.
You should see the New York Times comments section.... It's a lambasting. I feel bad for Bezos.
Yikes, to think I thought that they (NYT readers) were the vanguard of the anti-Apple brigade.....
Not in this day, no.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/amazon-fire-phone-hands-on-double-vision/
I have a feeling this will fail faster than Palm pre, and webos was actually a great os, just shitty hardware. And yes, it is all pretty fucking gimmicky, what niche is Amazon trying to fill here, with already having filled it with apps that do the same thing.
Most people won't want to be stuck in Amazon's limited world. The Phone Fire will not sell well--even worse than Kindle Fire about which we have no sales figures.
Huh! One freaking developer want's to beat his brains out by not developing for the lowest common denominator Android phone? This is beyond pathetic. This POS will sell for a few months like the Disney phone, or the Kin, or the ESPN phone. Anyone remember any of them?
The Amazon phone is "landfill ready."
I was kidding. This phone is, like you said, landfill ready.
Is it September yet? Let the real phone announcement begin.
You got a thumbprint-reading iPhone 5S or a pastel rainbow iPhone 5C! Maybe you want to view your Blu-ray movies on your new iPhone, what now? Here’s what you need to do for your new iPhone 5S or 5C, whether you are a first-time user or an iOS pro. The guide below walks you through the process of making your iPhone 5S/5C play Blu-ray titles.
To enjoy Blu-ray movies on your new iPhone 5S or 5C, you need to use a third party Blu-ray to iPhone 5S/5C Converter (Reference: http://www.video-dvd-ripper.com/blu-ray-converter) to rip Blu-ray to a format that is well compatible with your Apple device. Blu-ray Converter is highly recommended to do this job. It features optimized format preset for Apple iPhone, and takes simple steps to finish Blu-ray to iPhone video ripping. You load a Blu-ray disc into the program, choose a format as target for iPhone 5S/5C, and click “Convert” to start, Blu-ray Converter will take care of the rest.
Try Blu-ray to iPhone 5S/5C Converter here:
The process of ripping Blu-ray movie to iPhone 5S/5C acceptable MP4 video
Step 1: Import Blu-ray movie files into this program
Click “Load file(s)” icon to browse your Blu-ray drive and load Blu-ray movie files from your disc. This Blu-ray ripping software automatically detects the main title in a Blu-ray, so you needn’t looking around for the main title among numerous movie titles.
Step 2: Choose output format for iPhone 5S or iPhone 5C
Click on the Format bar, navigate to “iPhone” column and select “iPhone 5 H.264 HD 720P (*.mp4)” as output format for your device. The recommended 720P MP4 format will keep a good balance between output file size and image quality.
If you prefer to customize file quality by yourself, you can click “Settings” button and go to “Profile settings” panel to do so. Video and audio parameters such as codec, size, bit rate, frame rate, sample rate and audio channels are all adjustable here.
Step 3: Start Blu-ray to iPhone 5S/5C conversion
When the above mentioned steps finished, click the big button “Convert” to start Blu-ray to iPhone 5S/5C ripping. The generated 720p MP4 video can be found through clicking “Open output folder” icon on the “Conversion” window. Now you are ready to sync the ripped Blu-ray MP4 video to your iPhone via iTunes.
Amazon's offices.
The Firefly feature seems particularly well suited for Amazon customers who use brick and mortar stores like Best Buy, Borders, etc., to test drive and window shop products they ultimately buy on Amazon. I imagine Amazon's phone will easily suck up all of the shelf prices and product images from brick and mortar stores and tell you how to get the same product cheaper through Amazon. It's cute that Amazon will identify artworks for you, but you'd be naive to think they are doing this for your entertainment. Everything they do serves the singular purpose of getting you to buy more stuff from Amazon. But at the end of the day, that's basically the same goal of every retailer and product vendor on the planet.
IDC estimates Amazon Kindle Fire tablet sales. Not sure how accurate they are though.
Amazon only enters the Top 5 during the two quarters bordering Christmas... they are absent in the other two quarters.
But don't forget... the Kindle Fire is not available worldwide.
It's been said that Amazon's hardware only exists to get you to buy more stuff from Amazon. If they achieve that... then it's a success for them.
Really? How many people have really been waiting for this? If the Kindle Fire's sales are any indication, it isn't many.
Ok, listen this is my issue in all fairness: I don't like the way that many posters here simply automatically dismiss everything that happens in the tech industry if it wasn't built by Apple. And I know that many will argue that this perspective is unfounded and untrue. But I think an honest examination of the stuff people post here will reveal otherwise.
No. You're being selective, not honest, and not fair.
If you were honest in examining the stuff people post here, you would include the reactionary drivel from the "Apple must innovate every 2 years or doomed" trolls, the "Timmy Cook is bean counting" trolls, the "Beats = crappy headphones" trolls, the "Steve Jobs would never..." trolls, the "Apple never truly invented anything" trolls. If you were honest, you would acknowledge that these people automatically dismiss everything that WAS built by Apple, because it's Apple. And if you were fair, you would equally take issue with people who automatically dismiss everything made by Apple.
Bottom line is: I don't see you this passionate about defending Apple when it is "automatically dismissed". Please explain how that is being fair.
Here it comes: 100's of comments about how this is crap and can't possibly be cool because Apple has already invented the smartphone!
Fixed that for you! yes you are correct unless you thought was Samsung Galaxy S or 99 Ericsson? nope those were crap just like this one
Now on a serious note because people like you exists..the sane people are afraid to answer this question "who invented the smartphone?"
Very few developers, even iOS developers post here because they don't have the time.
Yeah, we all work 24/7 with no breaks...
I've tried auto-scrolling; I hate it. It never moves at exactly the speed you want it to. Also, it feels odd—sometimes, one wants to dwell on a certain phrase, sometimes you want to skim through. With a physical book or Apple device, you control the speed with your finger—much easier, much more intuitive and you aren't consciously aware of it, so it doesn't get in the way of the content.
I like some of the hardware specs on Android devices, but the Android environment is a deal killer for me. Everything I've seen powered by Android other than a smartphone has been slow and crash prone. As for smart phone Androids, they fill the low-end niche, replacing dumb phones and feature phones. That is how everyone selling Android phones has been treating the Android ecosystem... throwaway trash. Apple has released 7 iPhones (and a few iPad models) since I last bought a cell phone, Samsung has released... 89 Samsung Galaxy branded devices. So, Apple releases one phone and/or tablet per year, Samsung releases 10. I'm not sure how anyone knows what they are buying.
So Amazon wants to jump into this as well? To sell their Amazon services and products? If that's the case, sell the phone at cost instead of trying to make it look like a high end device, because it certainly isn't, and this device will be absolutely useless outside the US, since Amazon doesn't offer streaming outside the US. (There's basically no incentive to have Amazon Prime outside the US, because it doesn't improve things when half the products are more expensive outside the US than ordering straight off the US site.)