Once upon a time the US employed a more accurate definition called "mulatto" - just like Obama. But thanks to the racist one-drop rule, every single iota of "African" blood makes you a "black"...of course.
"White" is also a racist term. I personally don't feel much of an affinity for anyone based on their skin color. Get to know the person! Racial classifications are all part of a racist, classist, collectivist political structure that rewards proponents of "divide and conquer" against the population.
It's okay to say that everyone can be judged equally for their color, which is not a possibility.
It's another thing to say it's okay to be perceived negatively for their color and not be able to receive any benefits from that negativity, which is the world we live in.
And don't forget, those white families are dumping their income back into their families and businesses, isolating the from the past to that sector of as it gains interest which helps to offset inflation (plus, they're earning the most money).
And I understand within Apple, I was merely pointing out the issues within the education system in specifics.
The stats you link to show Asian male income higher than white male income in the last record. Over time that will increase.
This isn't Apples job to solve. They have to find qualified engineers. The us education system has to solve it, along with the communities themselves.
That said it makes sense to hire a working class white, any black man or a Hispanic with the same grades as the trustifarian WASP whites because they have to be smarter given the lack of home advantage.
My problem is the lack of scientific objectiveity to classify groups of people based on superficial aspects and then pigeonholing them into "minority" groups on the basis that any mixing then knocks one down from this racially charged ideal the "white man."
What lack of scientific objectivity?
Originally Posted by Nobodyy
It’s another thing to say it’s okay to be perceived negatively for their color...
And in the U.S., 55 percent of its workers are white, followed by 15 percent Asian, 11 percent Hispanic, and 7 percent black. A breakdown of race among international employees was not given.
Start ironic quote "So it seems whites are discriminated against most: only 55% of 77% (wikipedia), and Asians are 'positively discriminated' in a huge way 15% instead of 5% (wikipedia).
Seems that Cook has to hire a lot more whites and a lot less Asians.
Why isn't it specified how many gay people Apple hires? "End ironic quote.
The stats you link to show Asian male income higher than white male income in the last record. Over time that will increase.
This isn't Apples job to solve. They have to find qualified engineers. The us education system has to solve it, along with the communities themselves.
That said it makes sense to hire a working class white, any black man or a Hispanic with the same grades as the trustifarian WASP whites because they have to be smarter given the lack of home advantage.
Interesting, I can't read numbers. I'm intrigued, this is exciting, hopefully we can see more classes equalize in the future.
That being said, it is not Apple's problem to solve, I totally agree. However, helping in the solution is not bad. And Apple has a very very large influence among businesses in the United States - there's nothing they can't not do. Time will only tell, and in the time being, I appreciate the little steps they take.
Apple is becoming one of the most political correct companies out there since Cook has come into his own as CEO. Hire the best person for the job regardless of their skin color, gender, sex, etc. what's next, is Apple going to start asking people to supply their religious and political views?
No, it's not.
My problem is the lack of scientific objectiveity to classify groups of people based on superficial aspects and then pigeonholing them into "minority" groups on the basis that any mixing then knocks one down from this racially charged ideal the "white man."
So mullato then?
The US left tends to create these categories - the one drop rule is generally used by the census and black groups. If you believe that Obama is white, and he is half white, then those categories should be in the census.
Why should affirmative action benefit people of half European descendent, why should they be treated the same as fully black if affirmative action is designed to right past wrongs.
Interesting, I can't read numbers. I'm intrigued, this is exciting, hopefully we can see more classes equalize in the future.
That being said, it is not Apple's problem to solve, I totally agree. However, helping in the solution is not bad. And Apple has a very very large influence among businesses in the United States - there's nothing they can't not do. Time will only tell, and in the time being, I appreciate the little steps they take.
Collectivism is a cancer that never stabilizes. It continues to corrode and divide until there is nothing but the perception of class and class envy left.
The US left tends to create these categories - the one drop rule is generally used by the census and black groups. If you believe that Obama is white, and he is half white, then those categories should be in the census.
Why should affirmative action benefit people of half European descendent, why should they be treated the same as fully black if affirmative action is designed to right past wrongs.
>"It’s another thing to say it’s okay to be perceived negatively for their color..."
Good thing I didn’t say that.
>"...receive any benefits from that negativity..."
Except no.
So you're saying that because a black student who graduated college needs an additional step to their degree or additional work on their resume to compete with a student of equal college prowess, that the black student is not disadvantaged?
I did. Apple ][ said a company of 100% unqualified minorities. 1) he wasn't saying that being a minority made you unqualified, 2) you suggested (hopefully rhetorically) being white was the only thing that made them qualified. As stated by me, of the TWO OF US, you are teh one saying that, not me.
The US left tends to create these categories - the one drop rule is generally used by the census and black groups. If you believe that Obama is white, and he is half white, then those categories should be in the census.
The "Left" are the ones that ones to take anyone that looks like they might have "black" in them and label them "black" as if they are impure and tainted? Sure¡
Why should affirmative action benefit people of half European descendent, why should they be treated the same as fully black if affirmative action is designed to right past wrongs.
There should be no need for affirmative action but until people like you stop looking at some superficial features of a person to determine their worth in society that's not likely to happen.
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Once upon a time the US employed a more accurate definition called "mulatto" - just like Obama. But thanks to the racist one-drop rule, every single iota of "African" blood makes you a "black"...of course.
"White" is also a racist term. I personally don't feel much of an affinity for anyone based on their skin color. Get to know the person! Racial classifications are all part of a racist, classist, collectivist political structure that rewards proponents of "divide and conquer" against the population.
So much wrong here...
Enough.
It's okay to say that everyone can be judged equally for their color, which is not a possibility.
It's another thing to say it's okay to be perceived negatively for their color and not be able to receive any benefits from that negativity, which is the world we live in.
George Wallace.
And millions of others.
Why else did it take 200 years for segregation to stop in the USA?
Name the others.
Also, affirmative action is wrong: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-court-affirmative-action-20140423-story.html#page=1
Post the applicant rejection numbers, broken down by race / sex. Then MAYBE we'll have something to discuss. Till then, this is all pointless BS.
That gives you the what not the why. You have no idea why these people were rejected.
You're exactly right. That's why I say "Then MAYBE we'll have something to discuss." The "why" would be the discussion at that point.
Blocking for the white quarterback.
And only a white guy can be that?
Of the 2 of us, you are the only one saying this
The stats you link to show Asian male income higher than white male income in the last record. Over time that will increase.
This isn't Apples job to solve. They have to find qualified engineers. The us education system has to solve it, along with the communities themselves.
That said it makes sense to hire a working class white, any black man or a Hispanic with the same grades as the trustifarian WASP whites because they have to be smarter given the lack of home advantage.
Oh come on. The us was segregated for years. Black people should benefit from affirmative action but why Asians or "Hispanics "?
What lack of scientific objectivity?
It’s another thing to say it’s okay to be perceived negatively for their color...
Good thing I didn’t say that.
Except no.
Start ironic quote "So it seems whites are discriminated against most: only 55% of 77% (wikipedia), and Asians are 'positively discriminated' in a huge way 15% instead of 5% (wikipedia).
Seems that Cook has to hire a lot more whites and a lot less Asians.
Why isn't it specified how many gay people Apple hires? "End ironic quote.
The stats you link to show Asian male income higher than white male income in the last record. Over time that will increase.
This isn't Apples job to solve. They have to find qualified engineers. The us education system has to solve it, along with the communities themselves.
That said it makes sense to hire a working class white, any black man or a Hispanic with the same grades as the trustifarian WASP whites because they have to be smarter given the lack of home advantage.
Interesting, I can't read numbers. I'm intrigued, this is exciting, hopefully we can see more classes equalize in the future.
That being said, it is not Apple's problem to solve, I totally agree. However, helping in the solution is not bad. And Apple has a very very large influence among businesses in the United States - there's nothing they can't not do. Time will only tell, and in the time being, I appreciate the little steps they take.
Did you not read what the OP wrote?
Oh shut up. Try to stay sane.
Oh come on. The us was segregated for years. Black people should benefit from affirmative action but why Asians or "Hispanics "?
Affirmative action quotas are unconstitutional. See recent Supreme Court ruling.
So mullato then?
The US left tends to create these categories - the one drop rule is generally used by the census and black groups. If you believe that Obama is white, and he is half white, then those categories should be in the census.
Why should affirmative action benefit people of half European descendent, why should they be treated the same as fully black if affirmative action is designed to right past wrongs.
Interesting, I can't read numbers. I'm intrigued, this is exciting, hopefully we can see more classes equalize in the future.
That being said, it is not Apple's problem to solve, I totally agree. However, helping in the solution is not bad. And Apple has a very very large influence among businesses in the United States - there's nothing they can't not do. Time will only tell, and in the time being, I appreciate the little steps they take.
Collectivism is a cancer that never stabilizes. It continues to corrode and divide until there is nothing but the perception of class and class envy left.
So mullato then?
The US left tends to create these categories - the one drop rule is generally used by the census and black groups. If you believe that Obama is white, and he is half white, then those categories should be in the census.
Why should affirmative action benefit people of half European descendent, why should they be treated the same as fully black if affirmative action is designed to right past wrongs.
Affirmative action quotas are unconstitutional.
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
>"It’s another thing to say it’s okay to be perceived negatively for their color..."
Good thing I didn’t say that.
>"...receive any benefits from that negativity..."
Except no.
So you're saying that because a black student who graduated college needs an additional step to their degree or additional work on their resume to compete with a student of equal college prowess, that the black student is not disadvantaged?
Did you not read what the OP wrote?
I did. Apple ][ said a company of 100% unqualified minorities. 1) he wasn't saying that being a minority made you unqualified, 2) you suggested (hopefully rhetorically) being white was the only thing that made them qualified. As stated by me, of the TWO OF US, you are teh one saying that, not me.
:no:
The "Left" are the ones that ones to take anyone that looks like they might have "black" in them and label them "black" as if they are impure and tainted? Sure¡
There should be no need for affirmative action but until people like you stop looking at some superficial features of a person to determine their worth in society that's not likely to happen.