It appears that iPhone owners are smart enough to top off their power before a flight so they will be able to use it on the flight (music, videos, to-do lists, etc) & to contact/coordinate with who is ever picking them up. Additionally, a cell phone is a safety device, & in times of emergency, needs to perform at its max. The photo conveys to me that perhaps sammy owners aren't that smart, are in 'power-saving' mode (its in their pocket) or possibly, just can't afford airline tickets.
Yeah, just as odd as those who get upset about Samsung copying Apple only to later bash Samsung products for being a bad product. Are they the same or not? If one is a slavish copy of another then the quality of both will be pretty much equal.
WOW - How stupid can you get? - Samsung IS NOT THE SAME it is an INFERIOR COPY - just like all those cheap Chines fake copies of luxury Swiss watches - Only a Droid/Samsung troll could believe that a fake is as good as the real thing....LOL
BTW, I have no problems with battery life - all my family ONLY charge our iPhones and iPads JUST ONCE a Day - at night.
The tests which show long battery times for Samsungs are rigged - brightness is set at just 40% - our iPhones and iPads are ALL set with FULL Brightness and have loads of spare battery power at the end of each day.
So Goophone is "pretty much equal" to the quality of the iPhone it is knocking off?
In his defense, I was in the washroom this morning for my daily constitutional. While taking care of business I concentrated on copying the Samsung Galaxy S4. My "copy" of the Samsung Galaxy S4 was better than the original (though that isn't difficult).
samsungineers, maybe you just don't know how duped you are? Did you you really make the choice or where you steered by the Wireless companies and sales people who profit more on non-apple devices? Even if you take the devices aside and just focus on the app's, the software always works better and has more functionality on an iPhone than an android device because app developers can build better apps on iOS.
AT&T and Verizon Prefer to Sell a Samsung Smartphone Over an iPhone
If you go into your AT&T or Verizon store to buy a new smartphone, odds are the salesperson will direct you toward a Samsung device. A recent survey by Kantar Worldpanel found that 63% of smartphone buyers were recommended a Samsung. Comparatively, carriers recommended Apple just 30% of the time.
Nearly any tech review site will tell you that the iPhone is at least on par with any Samsung smartphone. In fact, the iPhone is usually ranked as the best smartphone available. So, why is there such a huge discrepancy between recommendation rates? The answer shouldn't surprise you: It's not in the best interest of wireless providers to recommend an iPhone profit-wise.
Making you pay more for a lower priced phone
Carriers seem to have a love-hate relationship with the iPhone. While the product certainly sells well, it carries a high up-front cost for the carriers because they must pay Apple subsidies to sell the phone for $199. Samsung and every other OEM have the same deal, but Apple's iPhone typically carries the highest subsidy.
Although Samsung's latest flagship Galaxy S starts off retailing for the same price as the latest iPhone -- $650 -- Samsung will often reduce the price after the initial launch, with the last three flagship Galaxy S devices declining 20% to 25% in retail price after six months. Meanwhile, AT&T and Verizon continue to sell customers the phone at the same subsidized price of $199 and pocket the change.
Apple's impact on wireless carriers is quite noticeable. With every new iPhone release, AT&T and Verizon notice significant declines in profit margin as they're forced to pay subsidies up front.
Other analysts have speculated that U.S. carriers want to avoid a situation where Apple can exercise even more power over them. Apple continued to gain share of the U.S. smartphone market in the second quarter of the year despite Samsung's product refresh in April. The iPhone maker now has a 42.1% share of the market. If Apple gains more market share, it may be able to exercise market power and force carriers to increase subsidies or pay for more advertising, the theory goes.
On the other hand, carriers are walking a fine line pushing Samsung phones considering the company already commands 28.6% of the market. But Samsung's products have a strong customer satisfaction rating and a loyal customer base -- the second best among smartphone OEMs after Apple. Smaller companies like LG and HTC aren't even close. In other words, the Samsung phone probably isn't going to get returned.
The only thing worse for carriers than paying a bigger subsidy is paying two big subsidies, so they want shoppers to be happy with the phone they buy. Selling a Samsung phone allows them to minimize the risk of paying more subsidies while maximizing the sales of high data plans. In the end, it all translates into better expected profit margins than selling nearly any other phone.
Samsung's not-so-secret weapon
Samsung is shelling out billions of dollars to get salespeople at your carrier to recommend and sell you its smartphones. Unlike Apple, Samsung offers spiffs to salespeople for selling its products. A spiff is an immediate bonus paid directly to the salesperson.
Samsung's marketing budget is gigantic compared to Apple's. Last year, Samsung's advertising and sales promotion budget totaled $11.9 billion, $1 billion more than Apple's entire SG&A expense. Samsung's sales promotion expense -- a lot of which is spiffs -- totaled $7.8 billion.
Carriers don't have much control over these incentives as they are offered directly by the manufacturer. If one carrier doesn't offer them, it'll have a hard time keeping salespeople. That makes spiffs a big risk to the carriers as it shows how any smartphone maker with a big enough budget (say, Microsoft if it wanted to) could dominate the mind share of their salespeople and undermine their businesses.
Why the sudden change?
Selling a Samsung phone might not be in the customers best interest, but it's certainly in the best interest of carriers and its employees. The amount of money Samsung doles out to salespeople every year is astounding, and shows the power of "promotion."
Perhaps that's another reason why carriers are trying to move away from subsidies altogether. They realize they're not really in control of what smartphones their salespeople try to sell, and as a result profit margins could take a hit if another high-subsidy OEM starts "promoting" heavily.
Yeah, just as odd as those who get upset about Samsung copying Apple only to later bash Samsung products for being a bad product. Are they the same or not? If one is a slavish copy of another then the quality of both will be pretty much equal.
Yes, its definitely a funny commercial that his home. And of course having a removable battery is a feature that isn't a copy from Apple.
I would love to have had a bigger battery in my iPhone 5s. Many days its very low in the evening and if traveling I look for a wall outlet to recharge. I'll probably get a battery case for the 5s.
I would really like the batter on the iPhone 6 to last longer but don't really expect a noticeable improvement because the screen will be bigger and Apple will not make the weight of the new iPhone 6 greater than the iPhone 5S. It will be bigger, wider, thinner but no more in weight.
I owned a Samsung Android phone. Check battery status, Check apps running in the background, Kill all apps, Check battery status, Check apps running in the background, Kill all apps, Check battery status, Check apps running in the background, Kill all apps, Check battery status, Check apps running in the background, Kill all apps, Check battery status, Check apps running in the background, Kill all apps 4 hours later charge phone and REPEAT.
iPhone 5S, Unplug it at 6:00 am Charge it at 11:pm whew that was exhausting....LMAO
I try to block trolls like DroidFTW, but if you people keep quoting him then I'm forced to see his crap over and over. Best to just ignore him in the first place and spare everyone else at the same time.
Now on to Samsung's amazing battery saving technology. Forget about making a more efficient processor that can idle as much as possible after doing any work. Forget about making new LCD technology that uses less power. Let's just shut everything off. Lame.
Yeah, just as odd as those who get upset about Samsung copying Apple only to later bash Samsung products for being a bad product. Are they the same or not? If one is a slavish copy of another then the quality of both will be pretty much equal.
Didn't anyone ever teach you that a copy is NEVER as good as the ORIGINAL? Please do us all a favour and go back to the Android site you crawled out from. Samsung IS a BAD COMPANY that makes SHODDY PRODUCTS.
My (admittedly aging) phone's battery life is getting worse and worse. Since I normally skip every other version release- Im hoping the 6 comes out soon.... and with battery power mgmt.
Just in case, if your current phone has been upgraded from iOS 4-5-6 etc, using OTA, then you might see an increase in battery life if you perform a iCloud backup of the device, then put it into DFU mode, and perform a complete restore via iTunes on a Mac or PC, then restore from your iCloud backup. This could dramatically increase your battery life, as it eliminate all the upgrade crud left behind during all the past upgrades.
You have just demonstrated an extremely low IQ and comprehension level. Those ads targeted the product (Windows XP and Vista), NOT THE USER. These ads target the user, and is a below-the-belt hit that just infuriates and insults their target audience, not smart.
Ehem, might wanna have another look at the picture there buddy... Woman sitting next to the outlet is holding a white iPhone 5S being charged, and the other person is plugged in with a iPhone charger block :no:
I've never seen a study where Samsung phones are particularly good at having a better power capacity, unless the batteries are more massive too. So, where did Samsung get the idea they have an edge in this area? It's not like I'd expect to see Samsung owners hanging around airport outlets getting their phablets recharged, they don't usually have the money to travel... which is tied to their ability to make good decisions... which is tied to the reason they have a Samsung product to begin with.
You have just demonstrated an extremely low IQ and comprehension level.
Yikes. Defensive much? lol...
You're preaching to the converted. I'm a big Apple fan and user, but I think you're over-reacting a bit to the ads.
And as much as I like Apple, I think its naive to think they don't play hardball right back with their marketing. However, if personal insults make you feel better- go for it. I've been called worse by better :-)
Yeah, just as odd as those who get upset about Samsung copying Apple only to later bash Samsung products for being a bad product. Are they the same or not? If one is a slavish copy of another then the quality of both will be pretty much equal.
This is the first person to believe a knockoff is just as good as the original. Embarassing...
Ehem, might wanna have another look at the picture there buddy... Woman sitting next to the outlet is holding a white iPhone 5S being charged, and the other person is plugged in with a iPhone charger block :no:
I completely agree that stabbing potential customers (there are those that leave Apple's ecosystem happily) makes zero sense. Samsung is not hurting Apple in any way through these attacks, they hurt the people that need to make choices. Samsung need only show an honest approach to their marketing with a "come try us...you will be surprised..." attitude. Screaming from the rooftops that they are scared and panicking over another Apple sale is never going to improve their situation. Long term planning, great product design, long term product support, excellent customer support will win over loyal customers not flash in the pan/ every 6 months we relaunch the greatest thing then drop all support for the previous models and ignore your cries. Customers have stayed with Apple for many reasons and one major one is the consistency of service at every level. Samsung, your enemy is from within.
What's the big deal about a removable battery? You have to carry a second battery. If you need more power just get a case that includes another battery. You only need to carry one item that way, instead of two.
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It appears that iPhone owners are smart enough to top off their power before a flight so they will be able to use it on the flight (music, videos, to-do lists, etc) & to contact/coordinate with who is ever picking them up. Additionally, a cell phone is a safety device, & in times of emergency, needs to perform at its max. The photo conveys to me that perhaps sammy owners aren't that smart, are in 'power-saving' mode (its in their pocket) or possibly, just can't afford airline tickets.
Yeah, just as odd as those who get upset about Samsung copying Apple only to later bash Samsung products for being a bad product. Are they the same or not? If one is a slavish copy of another then the quality of both will be pretty much equal.
WOW - How stupid can you get? - Samsung IS NOT THE SAME it is an INFERIOR COPY - just like all those cheap Chines fake copies of luxury Swiss watches - Only a Droid/Samsung troll could believe that a fake is as good as the real thing....LOL
BTW, I have no problems with battery life - all my family ONLY charge our iPhones and iPads JUST ONCE a Day - at night.
The tests which show long battery times for Samsungs are rigged - brightness is set at just 40% - our iPhones and iPads are ALL set with FULL Brightness and have loads of spare battery power at the end of each day.
In his defense, I was in the washroom this morning for my daily constitutional. While taking care of business I concentrated on copying the Samsung Galaxy S4. My "copy" of the Samsung Galaxy S4 was better than the original (though that isn't difficult).
samsungineers, maybe you just don't know how duped you are? Did you you really make the choice or where you steered by the Wireless companies and sales people who profit more on non-apple devices? Even if you take the devices aside and just focus on the app's, the software always works better and has more functionality on an iPhone than an android device because app developers can build better apps on iOS.
AT&T and Verizon Prefer to Sell a Samsung Smartphone Over an iPhone
If you go into your AT&T or Verizon store to buy a new smartphone, odds are the salesperson will direct you toward a Samsung device. A recent survey by Kantar Worldpanel found that 63% of smartphone buyers were recommended a Samsung. Comparatively, carriers recommended Apple just 30% of the time.
Nearly any tech review site will tell you that the iPhone is at least on par with any Samsung smartphone. In fact, the iPhone is usually ranked as the best smartphone available. So, why is there such a huge discrepancy between recommendation rates? The answer shouldn't surprise you: It's not in the best interest of wireless providers to recommend an iPhone profit-wise.
Making you pay more for a lower priced phone
Carriers seem to have a love-hate relationship with the iPhone. While the product certainly sells well, it carries a high up-front cost for the carriers because they must pay Apple subsidies to sell the phone for $199. Samsung and every other OEM have the same deal, but Apple's iPhone typically carries the highest subsidy.
Although Samsung's latest flagship Galaxy S starts off retailing for the same price as the latest iPhone -- $650 -- Samsung will often reduce the price after the initial launch, with the last three flagship Galaxy S devices declining 20% to 25% in retail price after six months. Meanwhile, AT&T and Verizon continue to sell customers the phone at the same subsidized price of $199 and pocket the change.
Apple's impact on wireless carriers is quite noticeable. With every new iPhone release, AT&T and Verizon notice significant declines in profit margin as they're forced to pay subsidies up front.
VZ Profit Margin (Quarterly) data by YCharts
Playing it safe
Other analysts have speculated that U.S. carriers want to avoid a situation where Apple can exercise even more power over them. Apple continued to gain share of the U.S. smartphone market in the second quarter of the year despite Samsung's product refresh in April. The iPhone maker now has a 42.1% share of the market. If Apple gains more market share, it may be able to exercise market power and force carriers to increase subsidies or pay for more advertising, the theory goes.
On the other hand, carriers are walking a fine line pushing Samsung phones considering the company already commands 28.6% of the market. But Samsung's products have a strong customer satisfaction rating and a loyal customer base -- the second best among smartphone OEMs after Apple. Smaller companies like LG and HTC aren't even close. In other words, the Samsung phone probably isn't going to get returned.
The only thing worse for carriers than paying a bigger subsidy is paying two big subsidies, so they want shoppers to be happy with the phone they buy. Selling a Samsung phone allows them to minimize the risk of paying more subsidies while maximizing the sales of high data plans. In the end, it all translates into better expected profit margins than selling nearly any other phone.
Samsung's not-so-secret weapon
Samsung is shelling out billions of dollars to get salespeople at your carrier to recommend and sell you its smartphones. Unlike Apple, Samsung offers spiffs to salespeople for selling its products. A spiff is an immediate bonus paid directly to the salesperson.
Samsung's marketing budget is gigantic compared to Apple's. Last year, Samsung's advertising and sales promotion budget totaled $11.9 billion, $1 billion more than Apple's entire SG&A expense. Samsung's sales promotion expense -- a lot of which is spiffs -- totaled $7.8 billion.
Carriers don't have much control over these incentives as they are offered directly by the manufacturer. If one carrier doesn't offer them, it'll have a hard time keeping salespeople. That makes spiffs a big risk to the carriers as it shows how any smartphone maker with a big enough budget (say, Microsoft if it wanted to) could dominate the mind share of their salespeople and undermine their businesses.
Why the sudden change?
Selling a Samsung phone might not be in the customers best interest, but it's certainly in the best interest of carriers and its employees. The amount of money Samsung doles out to salespeople every year is astounding, and shows the power of "promotion."
Perhaps that's another reason why carriers are trying to move away from subsidies altogether. They realize they're not really in control of what smartphones their salespeople try to sell, and as a result profit margins could take a hit if another high-subsidy OEM starts "promoting" heavily.
Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/att-and-verizon-prefer-to-sell-a-samsung-smartphone-over-an-iphone-cm379682#ixzz3AKI8L4Nd
Yeah, just as odd as those who get upset about Samsung copying Apple only to later bash Samsung products for being a bad product. Are they the same or not? If one is a slavish copy of another then the quality of both will be pretty much equal.
Yes, its definitely a funny commercial that his home. And of course having a removable battery is a feature that isn't a copy from Apple.
I would love to have had a bigger battery in my iPhone 5s. Many days its very low in the evening and if traveling I look for a wall outlet to recharge. I'll probably get a battery case for the 5s.
I would really like the batter on the iPhone 6 to last longer but don't really expect a noticeable improvement because the screen will be bigger and Apple will not make the weight of the new iPhone 6 greater than the iPhone 5S. It will be bigger, wider, thinner but no more in weight.
iPhone 5S, Unplug it at 6:00 am Charge it at 11:pm whew that was exhausting....LMAO
Hence the NomadPlus
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/08/13/nomadplus-battery-attachment-for-apple-wall-plug-will-completely-recharge-an-iphone-5s
I try to block trolls like DroidFTW, but if you people keep quoting him then I'm forced to see his crap over and over. Best to just ignore him in the first place and spare everyone else at the same time.
Now on to Samsung's amazing battery saving technology. Forget about making a more efficient processor that can idle as much as possible after doing any work. Forget about making new LCD technology that uses less power. Let's just shut everything off. Lame.
Didn't anyone ever teach you that a copy is NEVER as good as the ORIGINAL? Please do us all a favour and go back to the Android site you crawled out from. Samsung IS a BAD COMPANY that makes SHODDY PRODUCTS.
Just in case, if your current phone has been upgraded from iOS 4-5-6 etc, using OTA, then you might see an increase in battery life if you perform a iCloud backup of the device, then put it into DFU mode, and perform a complete restore via iTunes on a Mac or PC, then restore from your iCloud backup. This could dramatically increase your battery life, as it eliminate all the upgrade crud left behind during all the past upgrades.
Might wanna tell DroidFTW above that, I think he missed the memo.
You have just demonstrated an extremely low IQ and comprehension level. Those ads targeted the product (Windows XP and Vista), NOT THE USER. These ads target the user, and is a below-the-belt hit that just infuriates and insults their target audience, not smart.
Ehem, might wanna have another look at the picture there buddy... Woman sitting next to the outlet is holding a white iPhone 5S being charged, and the other person is plugged in with a iPhone charger block :no:
You have just demonstrated an extremely low IQ and comprehension level.
Yikes. Defensive much? lol...
You're preaching to the converted. I'm a big Apple fan and user, but I think you're over-reacting a bit to the ads.
And as much as I like Apple, I think its naive to think they don't play hardball right back with their marketing. However, if personal insults make you feel better- go for it. I've been called worse by better :-)
This is the first person to believe a knockoff is just as good as the original. Embarassing...
I think he meant the actual poster not the pic.
Anyway iPhone owners have this salvation now
Woo, are we supposed to be impress by this?
Let's revisit this topic later on when iPhone 6 comes out that should have similar battery size as theirs.
Sad attempt Sammy. Just pathetic.
I completely agree that stabbing potential customers (there are those that leave Apple's ecosystem happily) makes zero sense. Samsung is not hurting Apple in any way through these attacks, they hurt the people that need to make choices. Samsung need only show an honest approach to their marketing with a "come try us...you will be surprised..." attitude. Screaming from the rooftops that they are scared and panicking over another Apple sale is never going to improve their situation. Long term planning, great product design, long term product support, excellent customer support will win over loyal customers not flash in the pan/ every 6 months we relaunch the greatest thing then drop all support for the previous models and ignore your cries. Customers have stayed with Apple for many reasons and one major one is the consistency of service at every level. Samsung, your enemy is from within.