Diversity huh? I wonder how many worthy white males were passed over for these scholarships in favor of "diversity"...
Diversity - Liberal code word for "anybody who isn't a hetrosexual white male".
I know, right?!! Based on these so-called "diversity initiatives" you'd think that "minorities" had for centuries been passed over for things because of their race or gender. Where the heck do they get that from?!?!
I know, right?!! Based on these so-called "diversity initiatives" you'd think that "minorities" had for centuries been passed over for things because of their race or gender. Where the heck do they get that from?!?!
Do you seriously believe something like that would affect hiring at Apple? Get over it already. It's history. Plus the Supreme Court recently ruled that using race to determine eligibility for determining college admissions is strictly unconstitutional... verboten. This will soon extend to wherever unequal treatment, aka "affirmative action", is used to reward or punish. Steve Jobs himself believed in "equal opportunity, not equal outcomes".
I'd be interested in evidence that supports this theory, however it should be noted that Apple is not obligated to offer any scholarships to any person in any event.
Why should that be noted? No one was claiming otherwise.
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This is a "political" decision to appease special interests and make points among competing Silicon Valley hoi polloi.
Funny how people are happy that Apple don't get involved in politics when Apple's actions suit their political agenda (big business, no-frills capitalism), and yet when they show some community and social interest it's Apple "appeasing special interests".
You have no evidence about Apple's motivations. Tim Cook has stated more than once that he is steering Apple to do the right thing. I would venture that he believes this to be the right thing.
Because take 24 hours x 90 days x 3600 seconds is hard to input as a factor to divide into 36 billion?
36e9 / ( 24 hours/day x 3600 seconds /hour x 90 days) = 4629.62963 or $4,619.63/second.
Ah, but W|A lets you do it in a humanistic way. If you know what you have (money per quarter) and know where you want to go (money per second), you don’t have to know how to get there mathematically.
Funny how people are happy that Apple don't get involved in politics when Apple's actions suit their political agenda (big business, no-frills capitalism), and yet when they show some community and social interest it's Apple "appeasing special interests".
You have no evidence about Apple's motivations. Tim Cook has stated more than once that he is steering Apple to do the right thing. I would venture that he believes this to be the right thing.
If you disagree with something I've said, just state your opinion. I don't need to be referred to as "people". I have opinions, you have opinions.
I would also venture to say that Tim believes he's doing the right thing. Doesn't mean I have to agree with his every decision.
OK, sounds like reasonable component of a plan, but...
A) Is it two $10k scholarships per minute? Or just two, period? Speaking as a white male who has had plenty of childhood AND career advantages from my race (and where that race put me to grow up) ALONE... two is not much to level things out.
I know, right?!! Based on these so-called "diversity initiatives" you'd think that "minorities" had for centuries been passed over for things because of their race or gender. Where the heck do they get that from?!?!
A lot of ranting around here about liberals and racism. Betrays a complete misunderstanding of liberalism and pushes the goofy agenda of white conservative men (thank you Fox news on both counts). Newsflash - you and I have had the upper hand for centuries, and a couple of diversity scholarships from Apple are not going to change anything. You are not being persecuted, regardless of how much you may deserve it. Quit your bitching.
More bullshit from Mr Cook, the world's best COO and nothing else. BTW, "hispanic" has never been a race or ethnic group...what's next? "We don't have enough people from Tonga?"
…a couple of diversity scholarships……are not going to change anything.
So why waste my time and money doing it at all? So why are white students being ignored in favor of lesser qualified minorities at colleges? Sounds wrong to me. Why not just let everyone be equal?
Ah, but W|A lets you do it in a humanistic way. If you know what you have (money per quarter) and know where you want to go (money per second), you don’t have to know how to get there mathematically.
Ah yes, instead of using your mind, just spend some money and rely on 3rd party tools that aren't designed for such trivial thinking.
More bullshit from Mr Cook, the world's best COO and nothing else. BTW, "hispanic" has never been a race or ethnic group...what's next? "We don't have enough people from Tonga?"
What's the br in lawyer stand for? Blatantly racist?
Ah yes, instead of using your mind, just spend some money and rely on 3rd party tools that aren’t designed for such trivial thinking.
Money? The point of a calculator is to do things as quickly as possible. Do you similarly disparage the contributions of supercomputers because their calculations could have been done by hand/mind?
So why waste my time and money doing it at all? So why are white students being ignored in favor of lesser qualified minorities at colleges? Sounds wrong to me. Why not just let everyone be equal?
Of course each individual case is unique, but overall a minority student had to overcome a lot of adversity to even get into a level of consideration. If you have 2 runners in a 100 yd race, and runner A's lane is clear, while runner B's has hurdles, and runner B ends up a half second behind runner A. Who would you be most impressed by? Not everyone gets the same road to get to the same place.
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Because take 24 hours x 90 days x 3600 seconds is hard to input as a factor to divide into 36 billion?
36e9 / ( 24 hours/day x 3600 seconds /hour x 90 days) = 4629.62963 or $4,619.63/second.
Seriously, are there any mathematicians or actual traditional engineers on this site, besides myself?
Those 24 x 3600 are in one's head for life.
Diversity huh? I wonder how many worthy white males were passed over for these scholarships in favor of "diversity"...
Diversity - Liberal code word for "anybody who isn't a hetrosexual white male".
I know, right?!! Based on these so-called "diversity initiatives" you'd think that "minorities" had for centuries been passed over for things because of their race or gender. Where the heck do they get that from?!?!
I know, right?!! Based on these so-called "diversity initiatives" you'd think that "minorities" had for centuries been passed over for things because of their race or gender. Where the heck do they get that from?!?!
Do you seriously believe something like that would affect hiring at Apple? Get over it already. It's history. Plus the Supreme Court recently ruled that using race to determine eligibility for determining college admissions is strictly unconstitutional... verboten. This will soon extend to wherever unequal treatment, aka "affirmative action", is used to reward or punish. Steve Jobs himself believed in "equal opportunity, not equal outcomes".
www.cnn.com/2014/04/22/justice/scotus-michigan-affirmative-action/
I'd be interested in evidence that supports this theory, however it should be noted that Apple is not obligated to offer any scholarships to any person in any event.
Why should that be noted? No one was claiming otherwise.
This is a "political" decision to appease special interests and make points among competing Silicon Valley hoi polloi.
Funny how people are happy that Apple don't get involved in politics when Apple's actions suit their political agenda (big business, no-frills capitalism), and yet when they show some community and social interest it's Apple "appeasing special interests".
You have no evidence about Apple's motivations. Tim Cook has stated more than once that he is steering Apple to do the right thing. I would venture that he believes this to be the right thing.
36e9 / ( 24 hours/day x 3600 seconds /hour x 90 days) = 4629.62963 or $4,619.63/second.
Ah, but W|A lets you do it in a humanistic way. If you know what you have (money per quarter) and know where you want to go (money per second), you don’t have to know how to get there mathematically.
You have no evidence about Apple's motivations. Tim Cook has stated more than once that he is steering Apple to do the right thing. I would venture that he believes this to be the right thing.
If you disagree with something I've said, just state your opinion. I don't need to be referred to as "people". I have opinions, you have opinions.
I would also venture to say that Tim believes he's doing the right thing. Doesn't mean I have to agree with his every decision.
I would also venture to say that Tim believes he's doing the right thing. Doesn't mean I have to agree with his every decision.
I just hope Tim didn't spend more than 4.3 seconds thinking about it.
I just hope Tim didn't spend more than 4.3 seconds thinking about it.
LOL!
A) Is it two $10k scholarships per minute? Or just two, period? Speaking as a white male who has had plenty of childhood AND career advantages from my race (and where that race put me to grow up) ALONE... two is not much to level things out.
I know, right?!! Based on these so-called "diversity initiatives" you'd think that "minorities" had for centuries been passed over for things because of their race or gender. Where the heck do they get that from?!?!
A lot of ranting around here about liberals and racism. Betrays a complete misunderstanding of liberalism and pushes the goofy agenda of white conservative men (thank you Fox news on both counts). Newsflash - you and I have had the upper hand for centuries, and a couple of diversity scholarships from Apple are not going to change anything. You are not being persecuted, regardless of how much you may deserve it. Quit your bitching.
I nominate Jonah.
…a couple of diversity scholarships… …are not going to change anything.
So why waste my time and money doing it at all? So why are white students being ignored in favor of lesser qualified minorities at colleges? Sounds wrong to me. Why not just let everyone be equal?
Ah yes, instead of using your mind, just spend some money and rely on 3rd party tools that aren't designed for such trivial thinking.
What's the br in lawyer stand for? Blatantly racist?
Money? The point of a calculator is to do things as quickly as possible. Do you similarly disparage the contributions of supercomputers because their calculations could have been done by hand/mind?
Because they aren't equal.
Because they aren't equal.
How do you know for certain?
Of course each individual case is unique, but overall a minority student had to overcome a lot of adversity to even get into a level of consideration. If you have 2 runners in a 100 yd race, and runner A's lane is clear, while runner B's has hurdles, and runner B ends up a half second behind runner A. Who would you be most impressed by? Not everyone gets the same road to get to the same place.