So you believe even though people freely decide to buy Apple products, "minorities" (I don't like that word because of what it suggests) are still entitled to more free stuff because..."minority"?
I think it might all make sense to me now. Let me know if perhaps this could be true. You seem to be afraid or upset about companies attempting to offer scholarships and additional opportunities to minorities. Is it because you feel that by giving something away, they're taking from you what could potentially be yours? Thereby giving an advantage to another person?
Are you afraid that in doing so, you could eventually be left with less, and the minority with more? If so, I COMPLETELY understand where you're coming from (this is not sarcasm). I understand how one feels when privileges are extended to one group, and denied to another. I also understand the damage that can come to the disadvantaged group when that happens-- and that damage can be multi-generational (i.e. if you are forced into a lower socio-economic position, then your children and your children's children will start off at a lower level than the advantaged-party's children).
And if we were to allow that to happen for years, decades, even centuries, then I supposed it would be wrong to suddenly stop that discriminatory behavior and, from that point on, simply say "okay, the field is level-- now why aren't your kids succeeding?"
So believe me, I understand the fear you have. It's unfortunate that the United States has put generations of people through it.
The Jews as a whole seem to be doing pretty well for themselves. Or was their slavery and imprisonment over centuries not as bad?
For the record- I think Asians, blacks and Hispanics are doing well for themselves as well. I hate this reverse racism.
I am not about to try to score one group's suffering over another, though I would point out that even into the 1960's blacks continued to be subjected to Jim Crow, segregation, "separate but equal" (have you ever seen photos of the supposedly equal schools?), voter intimidation, et. al. And interestingly enough, it was Jewish people, who understood first hand how bad discrimination was, that largely helped black Americans in the attempt to gain their rights (and yes, certainly white Americans also aided in this effort to correct the wrongs of their forebears). As for enslavement, can you remind me again how many years ago the Exodus occurred, as compared to slavery in the United States, in terms of your assessment that slavery had no impact on achievement?
Do you even realize that there are still some towns in the U.S. that have segregated proms?? The kind of mind set that says black children and white children shouldn't dance together-- do you not think that enters into other areas of life, including the H.R. department? (keep in mind that the people who agree with segregated proms also have jobs in the real world)
So to say that discrimination no longer exists for minorities (whether they be blacks, women, hispanics, etc) just because it makes life easier for you to have your head in the sand, doesn't make it true.
Here are two interesting articles floating around today (that I'm sure you'll simply label as a liberal media conspiracy to promote diversity rather than actual events that happened to actual people):
I'm sorry to shatter your worldview that discrimination against minorities and women did NOT end with the Civil Rights Act or Barack Obama being elected. To deny that is just as bad as Holocaust deniers.
I think it might all make sense to me now. Let me know if perhaps this could be true. You seem to be afraid or upset about companies attempting to offer scholarships and additional opportunities to minorities. Is it because you feel that by giving something away, they're taking from you what could potentially be yours? Thereby giving an advantage to another person?
Are you afraid that in doing so, you could eventually be left with less, and the minority with more? If so, I COMPLETELY understand where you're coming from (this is not sarcasm). I understand how one feels when privileges are extended to one group, and denied to another. I also understand the damage that can come to the disadvantaged group when that happens-- and that damage can be multi-generational (i.e. if you are forced into a lower socio-economic position, then your children and your children's children will start off at a lower level than the advantaged-party's children).
And if we were to allow that to happen for years, decades, even centuries, then I supposed it would be wrong to suddenly stop that discriminatory behavior and, from that point on, simply say "okay, the field is level-- now why aren't your kids succeeding?"
So believe me, I understand the fear you have. It's unfortunate that the United States has put generations of people through it.
Actually, it's an expression of my disappointment in Apple giving in to Silicon Valley peer pressure and buckling to the demands of a corporate blackmailer like Jesse Jackson. Apple should remain the proudly independent and focused company they have always been and brush off charges of racism or inequality simply because they are completely untrue.
What's the br in lawyer stand for? Blatantly racist?
No - it is EXACTLY because I am against any form of racism that I consider affirmative actions a legal aberration and a mechanism for extending societal divides.
If anything, give assistance to those in need REGARDLESS of skin color or fake "ethnic" origin (just like the artificial label "hispanic" or "latino", which means absolutely nothing apart from a disguised racism against a select group of brown-skinned spanish speakers). I can show you millions of "whites" or "caucasians" living in slums or ghettos around the world...can they get those scholarships as well?
But yeah, this ship has sailed a long time ago in the stupid US of A...too bad Cook continues this sad practice as Apple's CEO.
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It's a bit juvenile, but it has its moments.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_from_Tonga
So you believe even though people freely decide to buy Apple products, "minorities" (I don't like that word because of what it suggests) are still entitled to more free stuff because..."minority"?
I think it might all make sense to me now. Let me know if perhaps this could be true. You seem to be afraid or upset about companies attempting to offer scholarships and additional opportunities to minorities. Is it because you feel that by giving something away, they're taking from you what could potentially be yours? Thereby giving an advantage to another person?
Are you afraid that in doing so, you could eventually be left with less, and the minority with more? If so, I COMPLETELY understand where you're coming from (this is not sarcasm). I understand how one feels when privileges are extended to one group, and denied to another. I also understand the damage that can come to the disadvantaged group when that happens-- and that damage can be multi-generational (i.e. if you are forced into a lower socio-economic position, then your children and your children's children will start off at a lower level than the advantaged-party's children).
And if we were to allow that to happen for years, decades, even centuries, then I supposed it would be wrong to suddenly stop that discriminatory behavior and, from that point on, simply say "okay, the field is level-- now why aren't your kids succeeding?"
So believe me, I understand the fear you have. It's unfortunate that the United States has put generations of people through it.
The Jews as a whole seem to be doing pretty well for themselves. Or was their slavery and imprisonment over centuries not as bad?
The Jews have certainly not received any kind of reparation or support for their treatment in recent times.
Oh, wait...
The Jews as a whole seem to be doing pretty well for themselves. Or was their slavery and imprisonment over centuries not as bad?
For the record- I think Asians, blacks and Hispanics are doing well for themselves as well. I hate this reverse racism.
I am not about to try to score one group's suffering over another, though I would point out that even into the 1960's blacks continued to be subjected to Jim Crow, segregation, "separate but equal" (have you ever seen photos of the supposedly equal schools?), voter intimidation, et. al. And interestingly enough, it was Jewish people, who understood first hand how bad discrimination was, that largely helped black Americans in the attempt to gain their rights (and yes, certainly white Americans also aided in this effort to correct the wrongs of their forebears). As for enslavement, can you remind me again how many years ago the Exodus occurred, as compared to slavery in the United States, in terms of your assessment that slavery had no impact on achievement?
Do you even realize that there are still some towns in the U.S. that have segregated proms?? The kind of mind set that says black children and white children shouldn't dance together-- do you not think that enters into other areas of life, including the H.R. department? (keep in mind that the people who agree with segregated proms also have jobs in the real world)
So to say that discrimination no longer exists for minorities (whether they be blacks, women, hispanics, etc) just because it makes life easier for you to have your head in the sand, doesn't make it true.
Here are two interesting articles floating around today (that I'm sure you'll simply label as a liberal media conspiracy to promote diversity rather than actual events that happened to actual people):
He dropped one letter from his name while applying for jobs, and the responses rolled in
I understood gender discrimination one I added "Mr." to my resume and landed a job
Who Wins in the Name Game?
I'm sorry to shatter your worldview that discrimination against minorities and women did NOT end with the Civil Rights Act or Barack Obama being elected. To deny that is just as bad as Holocaust deniers.
Actually, it's an expression of my disappointment in Apple giving in to Silicon Valley peer pressure and buckling to the demands of a corporate blackmailer like Jesse Jackson. Apple should remain the proudly independent and focused company they have always been and brush off charges of racism or inequality simply because they are completely untrue.
What's the br in lawyer stand for? Blatantly racist?
No - it is EXACTLY because I am against any form of racism that I consider affirmative actions a legal aberration and a mechanism for extending societal divides.
If anything, give assistance to those in need REGARDLESS of skin color or fake "ethnic" origin (just like the artificial label "hispanic" or "latino", which means absolutely nothing apart from a disguised racism against a select group of brown-skinned spanish speakers). I can show you millions of "whites" or "caucasians" living in slums or ghettos around the world...can they get those scholarships as well?
But yeah, this ship has sailed a long time ago in the stupid US of A...too bad Cook continues this sad practice as Apple's CEO.