An unnamed source who can only give us the gist of what somebody said? Now that's news! You can even choose your own words, so people will be too caught up in the soap opera to realize you're just making shit up (or being a willing accomplice to someone who is, which is tantamount to the same thing).
I decided to research Nick Bilton, the author of the NY Times article. After doing so, I had to wonder if the British-American might be telling the truth instead of blatantly lying about his Apple sources. I still do not want to believe Nick is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth. No matter what though, the article has and will spark conversation about Apple's supposed entry into the wearables arena next week.
JUST FOR FUN, HERE IS MY INITIAL RESPONSE TO THE ARTICLE...
I read the New York Times article and decided to call it bull shit! Apple was mentioned just to give the story click bait material. In my opinion, Intel was not the focus of the story because Intel (like Samsung) has repeatedly made grandiose statements only to watch everything fail. Now the company has chosen to focus its attention on wearable devices. The NY Times decided it needed to include Apple in the story and chose to lie.
There were 21 paragraphs in the NY Times article. Intel was first mentioned at paragraph 17. Apple was mentioned at paragraph 4. If the story was REALLY about Intel, Intel should have been mentioned BEFORE any reference to Apple was ever made.
Here is paragraph 5 of the article... While we don’t have much of an idea whatthe coveted iWatch will look like, I was able to glean one small detail from people at Apple who work on the company’s wearables.
And the rest is history! We all know we can trust the NY Times to tell us the truth!!
Guess what? If Apple chose to sue the pristine, honest, above board publication for libel, the NY Times and the author of the story would be protected by US law since they cannot be forced to reveal sources. The NY Times knows this and is willing to lie because it knows it can get away with the lie to sell a story.
Oh well. This story should fill the digital airwaves tonight and tomorrow. This story will also be rehashed next week IF a wearable device is revealed by Apple and the device does not put Switzerland on notice. I look forward to reading how the NY Times rips Jony <span style="line-height:1.4em;">for his bravado instead of telling the truth that it lied about him in the first place.</span>
Your confused about revealing sources. This would be a civil suit. If the siource was material to proving what the NYT said was true, they would either reveal the source or lose the suit. It is also possible they could be compelled to reveal the source during discovery. This is not a criminal case. The second case is a little less clear cut, but the first is absolutely certain.
A bit weird for the NYTs to run an unattributed, single-sourced story. Well it would have been 30 years ago. Today the line between The New York Times and the National Inquirer is as thin as the gold hair discussed earlier in this thread.
On topic: I can't see Jony saying this nor can I see someone [B]on his team[/B] repeating it to anyone, let alone the NYT. It has been stated that he has a pretty close knit team. If that's true then he would most assuredly know who went crawling to the NYT for some scoop money.
That idea of interchangeable wristbands with different functionality is a good one!
The idea of interchangeable watches is even better (from Apple's business point of view, and from watch aficionados' fashion point of view). With iCloud or peer-to-peer auto syncing, there should be know problem at all switching from one watch to another as your outfit, occasion, or mood requires.
I am quite familiar with many European women, and quite a few of those checkboxes are checked off already. I said Switzerland in particular.
And no, I don't believe that they're too sophisticated for somebody like me. I find some of them to be like hillbillies, only that they're dressed slightly better. Their ignorance, naivity and intolerance is quite primitive in my humble view.
Whacking-off to 'Euro-slut' videos on the interwebz doesn't really count as 'familiarity'. Just sayin'.
Interesting post. I'm thinking that the mechanical watch will continue to thrive, and become even more highly prized, following Marshall McLuhan's rule that the obsolete forms continue on as objects of art, increasingly, taking on a second life.
I would think mechanical watches have decades ago fallen into the category of "obsolete forms (that) continue on as objects of art". Which is not a bad thing, in the same way that portrait painting continuing on despite the rise of photography is not a bad thing.
I would think mechanical watches have decades ago fallen into the category of "obsolete forms (that) continue on as objects of art". Which is not a bad thing, in the same way that portrait painting continuing on despite the rise of photography is not a bad thing.
True, soon to be even more resolutely so. Glad you raised that.
The Swiss are all about precision manufacturing, accuracy, miniature mechanical components, and the like. But the rest of the world has caught up with them on this front. You cannot stay forever ahead, unless you keep innovating.
Swatch once had the privilege of calling their watch the thinnest watch in the world - till India's Titan came up with Edge. Suddenly, you didn't need a plastic body to have a thin watch - Titan made metal watches, including fancy materials like Titanium. What happened to the famed Swiss edge? It was beaten by Titan's Edge. What the Swiss did was awesome a century ago. Today, there are others who are as good if not better. They may not have the recognition or brand value of the Swiss, though.
Today, Swiss watches are largely about snob value. There is nothing about a Swiss watch that is not possible, or not available in many other ordinary watches. Whether from perspective of accuracy, miniaturization, precision finish, whatever.
But that isn't all - sometimes, the world changes - like what happened when the iPhone was launched. You could own the world till that point, and it doesn't matter. You will still be cleaned out. I believe technology has just scratched the surface of what is possible in the wearable space. There's tons of scope for improvement.
Irrespective of whether John Ive made this comment or not - the writing is on the wall - the days of regular watches are over. Going forward, it will be luxury smart watches. And the Swiss cannot do anything about it. Whether that happens in 2 years, or 5 years, or 10 years, that's the question.
Yeah see, the thing is, noone fucking asked you. Quite pathetic how you feel the need to inject your vitriolic brand of politics and xenophobia into absolutely everything. Do us a favor and keep that useless vomit to yourself.
seriously. what is wrong with this guy? i understand we're all techies and spend a lot of time online, but this guy is constantly out here getting spittle on his bib on every single thing he can possibly can...it's so bizarre. think he's on disabilities? trapped w/ his mother?
"Some key differences alright, like Switzerland is actually a democracy while the US isn't"
Settle down now...yes it is. Let's stick to commenting on the article and not go America bashing please.
you must have skipped civics. born and raised, and I'm here to tell ya -- the US of A is a republic. as in, "...to the republic, for which it stands..." we may be democratic, but this is a republic, not a democracy. basic fact.
you must have skipped civics. born and raised, and I'm here to tell ya -- the US of A is a republic. as in, "...to the republic, for which it stands..." we may be democratic, but this is a republic, not a democracy. basic fact.
Do you really think that the likes of IWC, Hublot, Patek Phillipe & more are worried about the threat of mass produced smart watches killing the market for luxurious crafted watches? Surely there's absolutely zero chance of smart watches damaging this market - how can you even compare these to watches where some have hundreds if not thousands of man hours going into the manufacture & that result in some of the most incredible pieces of art / jewellery? Admittedly some still manage to produce hideous beasts that footballers like but hey ho..
Do you really think that the likes of IWC, Hublot, Patek Phillipe & more are worried about the threat of mass produced smart watches killing the market for luxurious crafted watches? Surely there's absolutely zero chance of smart watches damaging this market - how can you even compare these to watches where some have hundreds if not thousands of man hours going into the manufacture & that result in some of the most incredible pieces of art / jewellery? Admittedly some still manage to produce hideous beasts that footballers like but hey ho..
The same was said about Vertu. Has Vertu's business in any way been hindered by the emergence of the iPhone as a highly functional device that far outstrips having a basic use device that is best suited as a status symbol? And note Vertu phones have a concierge feature which is like getting someone on the phone instantly to look up anything you want.
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He would have said 'Belgian' then...:smokey:
Settle down now...yes it is. Let's stick to commenting on the article and not go America bashing please.
Your confused about revealing sources. This would be a civil suit. If the siource was material to proving what the NYT said was true, they would either reveal the source or lose the suit. It is also possible they could be compelled to reveal the source during discovery. This is not a criminal case. The second case is a little less clear cut, but the first is absolutely certain.
A bit weird for the NYTs to run an unattributed, single-sourced story. Well it would have been 30 years ago. Today the line between The New York Times and the National Inquirer is as thin as the gold hair discussed earlier in this thread.
On topic: I can't see Jony saying this nor can I see someone [B]on his team[/B] repeating it to anyone, let alone the NYT. It has been stated that he has a pretty close knit team. If that's true then he would most assuredly know who went crawling to the NYT for some scoop money.
That idea of interchangeable wristbands with different functionality is a good one!
The idea of interchangeable watches is even better (from Apple's business point of view, and from watch aficionados' fashion point of view). With iCloud or peer-to-peer auto syncing, there should be know problem at all switching from one watch to another as your outfit, occasion, or mood requires.
You would be quite mistaken.
I am quite familiar with many European women, and quite a few of those checkboxes are checked off already. I said Switzerland in particular.
And no, I don't believe that they're too sophisticated for somebody like me. I find some of them to be like hillbillies, only that they're dressed slightly better. Their ignorance, naivity and intolerance is quite primitive in my humble view.
Whacking-off to 'Euro-slut' videos on the interwebz doesn't really count as 'familiarity'. Just sayin'.
Interesting post. I'm thinking that the mechanical watch will continue to thrive, and become even more highly prized, following Marshall McLuhan's rule that the obsolete forms continue on as objects of art, increasingly, taking on a second life.
I would think mechanical watches have decades ago fallen into the category of "obsolete forms (that) continue on as objects of art". Which is not a bad thing, in the same way that portrait painting continuing on despite the rise of photography is not a bad thing.
True, soon to be even more resolutely so. Glad you raised that.
The Swiss are all about precision manufacturing, accuracy, miniature mechanical components, and the like. But the rest of the world has caught up with them on this front. You cannot stay forever ahead, unless you keep innovating.
Swatch once had the privilege of calling their watch the thinnest watch in the world - till India's Titan came up with Edge. Suddenly, you didn't need a plastic body to have a thin watch - Titan made metal watches, including fancy materials like Titanium. What happened to the famed Swiss edge? It was beaten by Titan's Edge. What the Swiss did was awesome a century ago. Today, there are others who are as good if not better. They may not have the recognition or brand value of the Swiss, though.
Today, Swiss watches are largely about snob value. There is nothing about a Swiss watch that is not possible, or not available in many other ordinary watches. Whether from perspective of accuracy, miniaturization, precision finish, whatever.
But that isn't all - sometimes, the world changes - like what happened when the iPhone was launched. You could own the world till that point, and it doesn't matter. You will still be cleaned out. I believe technology has just scratched the surface of what is possible in the wearable space. There's tons of scope for improvement.
Irrespective of whether John Ive made this comment or not - the writing is on the wall - the days of regular watches are over. Going forward, it will be luxury smart watches. And the Swiss cannot do anything about it. Whether that happens in 2 years, or 5 years, or 10 years, that's the question.
Yeah see, the thing is, noone fucking asked you. Quite pathetic how you feel the need to inject your vitriolic brand of politics and xenophobia into absolutely everything. Do us a favor and keep that useless vomit to yourself.
seriously. what is wrong with this guy? i understand we're all techies and spend a lot of time online, but this guy is constantly out here getting spittle on his bib on every single thing he can possibly can...it's so bizarre. think he's on disabilities? trapped w/ his mother?
Steady on.
He has as much right to express his opinions/views as any of us.
doesnt mean his off topic spewings are equal opinions, and we have the right to bang on them as much as you do to tell this guy not to.
"Some key differences alright, like Switzerland is actually a democracy while the US isn't"
Settle down now...yes it is. Let's stick to commenting on the article and not go America bashing please.
you must have skipped civics. born and raised, and I'm here to tell ya -- the US of A is a republic. as in, "...to the republic, for which it stands..." we may be democratic, but this is a republic, not a democracy. basic fact.
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The same was said about Vertu. Has Vertu's business in any way been hindered by the emergence of the iPhone as a highly functional device that far outstrips having a basic use device that is best suited as a status symbol? And note Vertu phones have a concierge feature which is like getting someone on the phone instantly to look up anything you want.