Shouldn't people be doing stuff with their family (and friends) on Christmas and not watching some stupid movie? Why is it so damn important this movie be seen on Christmas Day anyway?
As far as the rest of your comment, I'm surprised you don't see the connection to releasing this movie on time and freedom of speech.
I do see the connection. There is no doubt that North Korea is a crappy, dictatorial country. I also see the connection if this film had been attacking another subject.
Free speech means free speech, not just when it comes to standing up to little North Korean dictators with moronic hair cuts.
Well, they also need to encode the film properly for iTunes. Those guys are picky about media quality on iTunes.
Whatever they've planned for release this week is probably already in the system, waiting for a flag to turn on.
Also is this release worldwide or US only ?
iTunes can shoot for worldwide.
I wonder how long the turn around is for the video, audio tracks, CC, subtitles, chapters, QA, etc.? If the reason is they weren't prepared for this and they are leaving money on the table as a result I'd think it would behoove a for-profit company to create a contingency plan in the future or streamline their process in case an opportunity like this arises again.
Apple has the resources to encode a simple film. Their reason for not allowing this film doesn't have anything to do with that I believe.
Maybe Apple just let everybody off for the holidays, and they don't feel like this movie is worth calling anybody back to work.
Exactly. And the terrorists don't want this movie shown period. It has nothing to do with Christmas Day, I don't think it was worth calling employees back into the office on Christmas. If Google wants to do that under the guise of "free speech" let them do it.
Shouldn't people be doing stuff with their family (and friends) on Christmas and not watching some stupid movie? Why is it so damn important this movie be seen on Christmas Day anyway?
Why this is such a popular day for movies is surely based on a lot of factors, but I think having the day off and being with family and friends is a big reason for the draw and why some of the best movies come out on Christmas Day. Don't you usually see movies with family and friends? And we're only talking about 2 hours of the day.
Cook probably didn't think it was that big of a deal. It's a fuckin stupid movie, after all.
It sounds to me, though, as if people think Apple is a traitor; has somehow or other let the nation down in a time of crisis.
Damn... it's just a fuckin stupid movie.
I can't see how it can possibly be funny to live up to the hype it's created for itself. It's like when you read a book you heard had previously been banned. Even if I enjoyed the book it was still a bit of a let down.
some of the best movies come out on Christmas Day.
This movie has a 9.9 rating on IMDB at the moment.
I'm sure that the 42,526 user ratings on that site have actually seen the movie, and I'm also sure that this movie is a regular, modern day masterpiece.
I'm not a tea bagger. Statistically speaking, it is far more likely that you are a tea bagger, an actual tea bagger.
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I followed the whole thing when it was happening, so I know what happened. I do not need any biased, liberal report to tell me how I should think.
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That's a bunch of BS. Had this movie been about something else (a certain, violent and primitive religion comes to mind), then Obama would be condemning this movie. This isn't about free speech, it's about hypocritical liberals doing what they do best, being complete hypocrites.
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Good for Apple for refusing to make this movie available! I have zero desire to watch it. I don't give a crap if the rental were .99 cents!
The whole way that the situation around the movie was handled was pathetic, and this movie will not get any of my money, not even a few pennies.
And it was pathetic how James Franco (which I don't particularly like as an actor) thanked Obama, who himself has been rather cowardly and hypocritical when it comes to free speech and videos (Benghazi anybody?). He blamed a silly youtube video for the whole thing, which was untrue and a massive lie! How idiotic!
I hope that this movie doesn't make back its production costs.
...and he's fun at parties also!! Merry Christmas & don't forget to take your anti-pshycotic pills.
I can't see how it can possibly be funny to live up to the hype it's created for itself. It's like when you read a book you heard had previously been banned. Even if I enjoyed the book it was still a bit of a let down.
I don't recall anyone saying that it's particularly funny, not sure, and we can't even be 100% certain that North Korea is the culprit.
... but a let down compared to all the hype it has received... I'm 100% certain that will be the case.
Hollywood hates iTunes.
ITunes movies rarely included in Blurays anymore except Disney.
Actually, I have started to see all these formally Ultraviolet only start including the option of iTunes HD again. Something that just came out I noticed, but only if you picked it up and look at the back.
Honestly, I bet it was a resource issue. Too rushed and Apple wanted to keep its word to employees already on holiday.
That, or they wanted exclusive and/or for the film to be free.
I do see the connection. There is no doubt that North Korea is a crappy, dictatorial country. I also see the connection if this film had been attacking another subject.
Free speech means free speech, not just when it comes to standing up to little North Korean dictators with moronic hair cuts.
Part of it is the significance of the size of the marketing campaign, the size of the companies involved, and the right to talk about politically sensitive subjects - so it's a very visible issue. I have no doubt that you and other commenters, as well as Apple, don't see this as a major issue. But, this movie is now available on Google play, and I'm glad that there are companies out there who see it as important as I do. In my opinion, Google gets a thumbs up for this.
I do see the connection. There is no doubt that North Korea is a crappy, dictatorial country. I also see the connection if this film had been attacking another subject.
Free speech means free speech, not just when it comes to standing up to little North Korean dictators with moronic hair cuts.
Free speech doesn't cover hate speech. From your previous posts it's not clear that you understand that.
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Well, they also need to encode the film properly for iTunes. Those guys are picky about media quality on iTunes.
Apple has the resources to encode a simple film. Their reason for not allowing this film doesn't have anything to do with that I believe.
Maybe Apple just let everybody off for the holidays, and they don't feel like this movie is worth calling anybody back to work.
As far as the rest of your comment, I'm surprised you don't see the connection to releasing this movie on time and freedom of speech.
I do see the connection. There is no doubt that North Korea is a crappy, dictatorial country. I also see the connection if this film had been attacking another subject.
Free speech means free speech, not just when it comes to standing up to little North Korean dictators with moronic hair cuts.
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I wonder how long the turn around is for the video, audio tracks, CC, subtitles, chapters, QA, etc.? If the reason is they weren't prepared for this and they are leaving money on the table as a result I'd think it would behoove a for-profit company to create a contingency plan in the future or streamline their process in case an opportunity like this arises again.
Apple has the resources to encode a simple film. Their reason for not allowing this film doesn't have anything to do with that I believe.
Maybe Apple just let everybody off for the holidays, and they don't feel like this movie is worth calling anybody back to work.
You're probably right.
Cook probably didn't think it was that big of a deal. It's a fuckin stupid movie, after all.
It sounds to me, though, as if people think Apple is a traitor; has somehow or other let the nation down in a time of crisis.
Damn... it's just a fuckin stupid movie.
Exactly. And the terrorists don't want this movie shown period. It has nothing to do with Christmas Day, I don't think it was worth calling employees back into the office on Christmas. If Google wants to do that under the guise of "free speech" let them do it.
That's what I meant. It's not simply a "let's do it now" deal. Someone need to do the real work, and they are already off.
People are busy shopping in the Apple Store worldwide as we speak. Retail staff are shorthanded.
I doubt they want to rush and rock the boat now. Even extra security at the stores take time, and may turn some customers away.
If I were them, I'd wait till after the holiday seasons.
As long as they show the movie, they have already upheld freedom of speech against the hackers' demand.
Why this is such a popular day for movies is surely based on a lot of factors, but I think having the day off and being with family and friends is a big reason for the draw and why some of the best movies come out on Christmas Day. Don't you usually see movies with family and friends? And we're only talking about 2 hours of the day.
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I can't see how it can possibly be funny to live up to the hype it's created for itself. It's like when you read a book you heard had previously been banned. Even if I enjoyed the book it was still a bit of a let down.
some of the best movies come out on Christmas Day.
This movie has a 9.9 rating on IMDB at the moment.
I'm sure that the 42,526 user ratings on that site have actually seen the movie, and I'm also sure that this movie is a regular, modern day masterpiece.
I'm not a tea bagger. Statistically speaking, it is far more likely that you are a tea bagger, an actual tea bagger.
I followed the whole thing when it was happening, so I know what happened. I do not need any biased, liberal report to tell me how I should think.
That's a bunch of BS. Had this movie been about something else (a certain, violent and primitive religion comes to mind), then Obama would be condemning this movie. This isn't about free speech, it's about hypocritical liberals doing what they do best, being complete hypocrites.
Good for Apple for refusing to make this movie available! I have zero desire to watch it. I don't give a crap if the rental were .99 cents!
The whole way that the situation around the movie was handled was pathetic, and this movie will not get any of my money, not even a few pennies.
And it was pathetic how James Franco (which I don't particularly like as an actor) thanked Obama, who himself has been rather cowardly and hypocritical when it comes to free speech and videos (Benghazi anybody?). He blamed a silly youtube video for the whole thing, which was untrue and a massive lie! How idiotic!
I hope that this movie doesn't make back its production costs.
...and he's fun at parties also!! Merry Christmas & don't forget to take your anti-pshycotic pills.
I can't see how it can possibly be funny to live up to the hype it's created for itself. It's like when you read a book you heard had previously been banned. Even if I enjoyed the book it was still a bit of a let down.
I don't recall anyone saying that it's particularly funny, not sure, and we can't even be 100% certain that North Korea is the culprit.
... but a let down compared to all the hype it has received... I'm 100% certain that will be the case.
APPLE CLOSES ALL SUBMISSIONS TO THEIR STORES A WEEK BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND DOESN'T OPEN THEM UNTIL AFTER NEW YEAR'S.
APPLE COULDN'T ACCEPT SONY'S RESTORATION AFTER THEIR PATHETIC, COWARDLY ACT.
This, of course, has already been mentioned, but it stands to say again.
And what if you go to a movie with your family?
APPLE CLOSES ALL SUBMISSIONS TO THEIR STORES A WEEK BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND DOESN'T OPEN THEM UNTIL AFTER NEW YEAR'S.
APPLE COULDN'T ACCEPT SONY'S RESTORATION AFTER THEIR PATHETIC, COWARDLY ACT.
This, of course, has already been mentioned, but it stands to say again.
And what if you go to a movie with your family?
Agreed about Sony being pathetic cowards when it came to all this stuff. As for most other things, we can agree to disagree.
Actually, I have started to see all these formally Ultraviolet only start including the option of iTunes HD again. Something that just came out I noticed, but only if you picked it up and look at the back.
Honestly, I bet it was a resource issue. Too rushed and Apple wanted to keep its word to employees already on holiday.
That, or they wanted exclusive and/or for the film to be free.
Part of it is the significance of the size of the marketing campaign, the size of the companies involved, and the right to talk about politically sensitive subjects - so it's a very visible issue. I have no doubt that you and other commenters, as well as Apple, don't see this as a major issue. But, this movie is now available on Google play, and I'm glad that there are companies out there who see it as important as I do. In my opinion, Google gets a thumbs up for this.