'If you need a stylus, you blew it.' Steve Jobs, co-founder of Apple
Tut tut, Apple.
Clearly you haven't heard of the Newton, or the mockery it received from the press. Or the runaway failure of an experiment that was called the Microsoft Windows Tablet with Pen Extensions. These things prove Jobs was correct.
Having a digitizer built into a larger iPad, with the proper APIs and Frameworks, along with partners to show off some apps with demos at the event would likely let Apple know within a year is a digitizer in other the iPad (or iPad and iPhone) would be worth the cost to the customer.
The larger 12.9" iPad will likely have an enhanced OS and UI where the addition of a stylus makes sense. The force sensor technology of Apple Watch and technology from PrimeSense will likely be included in the new system.
Other Apple technologies to look out for?
1. The 5K Retina iMac is likely a prelude to interactive Apple 5K TVs and Conference room displays with 3D gesture capabilities.
2. PrimeSense technology will likely allow iPhones & iPads to capture 3D object to be rendered on 3D printers.
3. Apple's iBeacon hardware with enhanced capabilities will be deployed massively globally as a catalyst the the ecosystem.
4. PassBook will gain new features such as store coupons & loyalty benefits, ID cards, Driver's licenses, Receipts, Tickets etc...
5. iCloud will securely sync fingerprints between between Apple devices of the same owner.
Lot and Lots to do to enhance the "Apple Ecosystem" and stay ahead of the pack.
"We believe, if you need a stylus, you already failed"
"Hand-writing is probably the slowest input method ever invented"
"Who wants a Stylus?"
- Steve
1) And your point? Do you think Apple will drop their capacitive touchscreen HW and UI designed for the finger in order to support only a stylus?
2) Define hand-written? One could say that typing is written with the hands. If your saying that is specifically means writing out letters with the hand using some sort of elongated writing tool why assume that a stylus couldn't be used for painting or any other task on a digital display?
'If you need a stylus, you blew it.' Steve Jobs, co-founder of Apple
Tut tut, Apple.
Clearly you haven't heard of the Newton, or the mockery it received from the press. Or the runaway failure of an experiment that was called the Microsoft Windows Tablet with Pen Extensions. These things prove Jobs was correct.
I agree with you. Not sure what you're trying to say.
It should also be noted that Apple still has the best handwriting recognition system ever devised. To my knowledge, no one has ever beaten the system included in Newton OS 2.1.
Microsoft's handwriting recognition on the Surface Pro3 is reportedly very well done. It's also unique. It's able to store your handwriting itself just as done, and that handwriting is also directly searchable. That's pretty cool.
Microsoft's handwriting recognition on the Surface Pro3 is reportedly very well done. It's also unique. It's able to store your handwriting itself just as done, and that handwriting is also directly searchable. That's pretty cool.
That's not unique, the Newton does all that apart from the searchability.
I laughed when they were showing how it could take a roughly drawn shape and make it correct, because again, the Newton does that too.
A stylus has its place. With 'professionals,' be it art and design (mostly), and now possibly writing.
Still, 95%+ of the iOS experience will be with your finger. Jobs was right about the core of the experience.
Just a crazy thought... What if it is not iOS?
What if iPad pro is coming with OS X?
And then suddenly it all makes sense.
1. It needs a pixel perfect pointing device - explains the stylus rumors
2. It runs on ARM - explains the Intel switch rumors
3. It runs XCode - explains the Pro suffix
Steve Jobs' you-misplace-it hostility aside, a stylus makes a lot of sense, but if and only if Apple's iOS and apps can make a distinction between what's done with a stylus (i.e. drawing on screen) versus what is done with a finger (i.e. choosing drawing tools).
It'd work around what's perhaps the #1 problem with touchscreen tablet UIs, the limited number of ways to input. A mouse, for instance, can hover over and click/double-click with any of several buttons. All a typical impoverished touchscreen UI has is touch-tapping enhanced just a little by swiping or pinching. But the latter only work in special circumstance.
I suspect those iPad Pros will be great for graphics designers. A well-designed stylus would make them even better.
Well... I guess people will probably quote Jobs' opinion about the merits of a stylus (he was against it).
But a few thoughts:
1. adding a stylus at this stage of the game as an optional accessory is quite a different thing from having the UI built around the assumption that a stylus is necessary from day one
2. I can imagine that enterprise/pro customers want something more than fingers as the basis for interaction with an iPad. A stylus might be a more attractive option (in terms of mobility) than going the keyboard route.
3. Jobs changed his mind all the time. People shouldn't assume he would be against something now just because he was against it in 2010.
When was Jobs against using stylus on a tablet? On the phone, stylus is dumb and he was correct with iPhone since 2007. No one bought stylus for iPhone ever.
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Keyword being 'need'. The iPad will never need a stylus. It would be an optional accessory that enhances writing.
Guess who's trolling now.
Um... the 6 will be the best selling iPhone. Oh and didn't Jobs replace the best selling iPod mini with the nano?
Clearly you haven't heard of the Newton, or the mockery it received from the press. Or the runaway failure of an experiment that was called the Microsoft Windows Tablet with Pen Extensions. These things prove Jobs was correct.
"Hand-writing is probably the slowest input method ever invented"
"Who wants a Stylus?"
- Steve
The larger 12.9" iPad will likely have an enhanced OS and UI where the addition of a stylus makes sense. The force sensor technology of Apple Watch and technology from PrimeSense will likely be included in the new system.
Other Apple technologies to look out for?
1. The 5K Retina iMac is likely a prelude to interactive Apple 5K TVs and Conference room displays with 3D gesture capabilities.
2. PrimeSense technology will likely allow iPhones & iPads to capture 3D object to be rendered on 3D printers.
3. Apple's iBeacon hardware with enhanced capabilities will be deployed massively globally as a catalyst the the ecosystem.
4. PassBook will gain new features such as store coupons & loyalty benefits, ID cards, Driver's licenses, Receipts, Tickets etc...
5. iCloud will securely sync fingerprints between between Apple devices of the same owner.
Lot and Lots to do to enhance the "Apple Ecosystem" and stay ahead of the pack.
Time will tell.
1) And your point? Do you think Apple will drop their capacitive touchscreen HW and UI designed for the finger in order to support only a stylus?
2) Define hand-written? One could say that typing is written with the hands. If your saying that is specifically means writing out letters with the hand using some sort of elongated writing tool why assume that a stylus couldn't be used for painting or any other task on a digital display?
I think the commenter was being sarcastic.
Snowing where you are?
U2?
Tsk, seems that everyone else is getting the good stuff.
If Apple solves the artist's stylus at a pro level, I'll likely be buying my first iPad.
'If you need a stylus, you blew it.' Steve Jobs, co-founder of Apple
Tut tut, Apple.
Clearly you haven't heard of the Newton, or the mockery it received from the press. Or the runaway failure of an experiment that was called the Microsoft Windows Tablet with Pen Extensions. These things prove Jobs was correct.
I agree with you. Not sure what you're trying to say.
I myself have a stylus to draw on the iPad, but that's 2% of the time i am using the thing. As people said in the discussion: it's an accessory.
I do imagine the Apple Wand concept to work on a long-distance interface with swipes and gestures (as replacement of the remote) but a stylus.. no.
A stylus has its place. With 'professionals,' be it art and design (mostly), and now possibly writing.
Still, 95%+ of the iOS experience will be with your finger. Jobs was right about the core of the experience.
Microsoft's handwriting recognition on the Surface Pro3 is reportedly very well done. It's also unique. It's able to store your handwriting itself just as done, and that handwriting is also directly searchable. That's pretty cool.
That's not unique, the Newton does all that apart from the searchability.
I laughed when they were showing how it could take a roughly drawn shape and make it correct, because again, the Newton does that too.
Just a crazy thought... What if it is not iOS?
What if iPad pro is coming with OS X?
And then suddenly it all makes sense.
1. It needs a pixel perfect pointing device - explains the stylus rumors
2. It runs on ARM - explains the Intel switch rumors
3. It runs XCode - explains the Pro suffix
It'd work around what's perhaps the #1 problem with touchscreen tablet UIs, the limited number of ways to input. A mouse, for instance, can hover over and click/double-click with any of several buttons. All a typical impoverished touchscreen UI has is touch-tapping enhanced just a little by swiping or pinching. But the latter only work in special circumstance.
I suspect those iPad Pros will be great for graphics designers. A well-designed stylus would make them even better.