I don't think it will replace the Air. The 12" screen is too small, but the single port is a real show stopper for me. As an app developer I always use 2 USB ports for testing and debugging and the macbook won't hold 10 hours (my typical workday) without power.
As I am not the only app developer with these constraints, I am not so sure it will sell like crazy.
We may see an adjustment of the MacBook line next year, with the MacBook Air being replace by the MacBook 13". It would be more of a rebranding with style adjustments.
One advantage of not overhauling the MacBook Air too much this year is giving the new MacBook a clear product categorisation, and selling point, and testing the acceptance of the device before doing the same things to the MacBook Air line.
Kuo is full of it. The MacBook Air was a smash, mainly due to the lightness.
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Did the lack of a DVD drive slow MBA sales? Not even for a second.
Same deal here. I predict that this new puter will fly off the shelves.
A little revisionist history going on here. The MBA was NOT a hit right out of the gate. There was an initial surge when first released because of the uniqueness, but sales fizzled shortly after. It wasn't until the price reductions, adding an additional ports, and making a SSD standard that sales took off.
I would have preferred a 13 inch screen as well. However, I am more curious as to the performance of the new CPU. I don't expect miracles due to the the MacBook being fan-less but would like to see where it ranks performance-wise.
This is perhaps the most interesting question to be had. Other platforms using this chip have demonstrated rather poor performance which could be an implementation issue. Some benchmarks put the CPU performance at around that of a 2011 MBP which may be a problem with modern Mac OS.
What we need to see as users or potential owners is how hard and how quickly will this machine throttle. Until this Behaviour is understood we won't know what performance will be like.
In a nut shell you can't expect a lot out of this machine considering the clock rates it is being offered in. I would expect that even a MBA would run circles around this machine for more advanced users.
A laptop should be at least 13". I think Apple should offer 13", 15" and 17" sizes only.
You do realize this retina MacBook has a resolution of 2304 x 1440 which is greater than the 17" MacBook Pro offered in 2007 which had a resolution of 1680 x 1050 don't you? For something that sits in your lap a bigger screen isn't all that important, a higher resolution is much better because you're able to have the benefits of an old, large sized screen in a much smaller package.
But I was hoping to wait a few more years before I start having to wear reading glasses.
For me, it's not a matter of If. It's a matter of which. I want to try out the space gray or the gold mac or maybe stick with silver since I'm a silver person generally speaking.
A laptop should be at least 13". I think Apple should offer 13", 15" and 17" sizes only.
I would have to disagree. I prefer my laptop to be as portable as possible when I'm sitting on the couch, on an air plane or at a coffee shop, which is probably 75% of my laptop use.
If I do need to do more high-efficiency work (25% of the time), I plug my laptop into a monitor and switch to keyboard and mouse.
It would be a pain to lug around a huge laptop everywhere for that 25%.
Don't be surprised if there is no more Macbook Airs by the end of 2016. I think Apple is going to ditch the "Air" name in the future. That includes the iPad line.
My 2012 15in MBP is maxed out with an i7, 16Gb RAM and 2x 1TB SSD's. (no DVD drive).
I'd use it more if I could put 32GB ram in it like my HP Windows Laptop (17in screen, 32Gb Ram 3.5TB of SSD)
Yeah, I run a shed load of VM's. But I can only run 2/3rd of the plant's systems on my MBP.
I do use it for Photo and Video editing. A shoot last week used up some 90Gb of storage.
So I'd like a 17in MBP with an i7, 32Gb Ram max and the ability to have at least 2TB of SSD storage inside.
If it has a retina display then great but it isn't a deal breaker for me.
Sadly, Apple isn't in the market of supplying luggable devices with this sort of power.
Luggable is right. I saw a 17" MBP's setup on a shoot. They (2) were mounted in a specialized hard case and included SSD drives and connectors to be able to copy just shot footage directly from camera cards. The kit would be set up in a trailer / truck to provide an on-set edit suite. In other words, the thing was luggable but not easily portable if you wanted to trek solo across the alps. This was a feature film / commercials set-up. As soon as the 17" mbp's were discontinued I thought it obvious that someone would re-build that kit to include one or two fully loaded Mini's or 13" MBP's, and mount a high res monitor to the inside of the case lid. The whole thing would be just as portable and probably a better solution. Perhaps it already exists. I can easily see someone using a 27" iMac in a hard case like that, even.
And the MacBook Air is still a smash. Thanks, in part, to several price drops. I seem to recall that the original January 2008 MBA went for something like $1499. It was more of an Executive Laptop than a mainstream consumer model. Now both the 11" and 13" MBAs start at under $1k, replacing the old white plastic MacBook as the low-end Mac.
It will be interesting to see if and when the new MacBook starts to out-sell the 13" MBA and the 13" MBP. I think two things will appeal to consumers: the 2 lb. weight and the two new color options. It will appeal to the masses who don't need to do too much heavy computing every day (e.g. video editing and conversion, Xcode development, Adobe bloatware usage, etc.) who want a high-quality laptop. But I can see that there might be some resistance to the USB C port. "Where do I plug in my camera's memory card?" "I can't charge my MacBook and iPhone at the same time?"
I think very very few actually use the SD card slot. They use their iPhones or other smartphone.
The MBA started at $1799, with 2GB RAM (and no option to upgrade!), either a super slow 4200RPM PATA hard drive or a $1000 64GB SSD (no, I'm not kidding on that price), and a 1.6 or 1.8GHz processor. This MacBook is a bargain at $1299.
I initially purchased a Macbook Air to take on vacations (we tend to travel abroad) and local trips, in order to perform backup and manipulation of photos from my DSLR camera. The MBA has worked wonderfully for this, but it's old, and by current standards has very little storage capacity. I need to get a replacement, but if the goal is to have a compact, convenient system for the uses I outlined above, I don't see how this new Macbook can do it. No SD card slot. No USB for me to offload from precious HD space onto a thumbdrive, no way to connect an inexpensive external drive for a tertiary backup. Now, if I get the new Macbook, I have to spend a way too much money for adapters on top of an already expensive notebook just to regain this basic functionality, and I end up with a package that is far more inconvenient to use (I have to keep track of all those adapters). Additionally, if I'm in the middle of the Philippines (our most common destination), and an adapter breaks or gets lost, I'm simply screwed, unless I want to book a couple flights to go to Manila and buy one there. Having Apple.com deliver one just isn't a serious option like it is in a western country, at least not in the time frames that I spend in a single location.
Maybe there is some niche group that will benefit from this new device (such as those who can't live without a gaudy gold-colored computer), but I don't see much use in it personally. Hopefully, they will wake up and release a MBA with some ports.
I realize that there will be super-expensive options for me to buy new thumbdrives and external hard-drives eventually so that I can replace my perfectly good ones at increased costs due to a whim on the part of Apple, but this still does not fix the fact that I cannot connect easily get the photos from my camera to the computer. And to anyone about to suggest getting a sd-card wifi adapter, I have. They work like crap.
I initially purchased a Macbook Air to take on vacations (we tend to travel abroad) and local trips, in order to perform backup and manipulation of photos from my DSLR camera. The MBA has worked wonderfully for this, but it's old, and by current standards has very little storage capacity. I need to get a replacement, but if the goal is to have a compact, convenient system for the uses I outlined above, I don't see how this new Macbook can do it. No SD card slot. No USB for me to offload from precious HD space onto a thumbdrive, no way to connect an inexpensive external drive for a tertiary backup. Now, if I get the new Macbook, I have to spend a way too much money for adapters on top of an already expensive notebook just to regain this basic functionality, and I end up with a package that is far more inconvenient to use (I have to keep track of all those adapters). Additionally, if I'm in the middle of the Philippines (our most common destination), and an adapter breaks or gets lost, I'm simply screwed, unless I want to book a couple flights to go to Manila and buy one there. Having Apple.com deliver one just isn't a serious option like it is in a western country, at least not in the time frames that I spend in a single location.
Maybe there is some niche group that will benefit from this new device (such as those who can't live without a gaudy gold-colored computer), but I don't see much use in it personally. Hopefully, they will wake up and release a MBA with some ports.
I realize that there will be super-expensive options for me to buy new thumbdrives and external hard-drives eventually so that I can replace my perfectly good ones at increased costs due to a whim on the part of Apple, but this still does not fix the fact that I cannot connect easily get the photos from my camera to the computer. And to anyone about to suggest getting a sd-card wifi adapter, I have. They work like crap.
Maybe you should get a MBP?
The USB-USB Type C adapter is $19. And with this new MacBook, there's no longer a proprietary charger so you're not dropping $80 on a MagSafe.
You also seem to assume that no one will release third-party stuff for Type C. This is an open standard, there won't be licensing fees or special needs. Accessories will come along shortly.
Once you factor in the need for a bag or murse for your laptop, the functional differences become negligible between macbook pro with a 13" screen. This is more true when you have to carry around accessories. Having said that lighter in the long run will be more popularand the power brick might be smaller (and have a magsafe connector on the brick).
This looks like a solid offering to me.
Being an audiophile, i love the fanless to use the device in my media room.
The keyboard and the trackpad in particular have always been great on macs... And these looks substantially better.
As far as screen size. i have a imac retina on my desk for "big" needs. I dont see myself needing a big screen (with a lot of random work happening on my cell now). I prefer compact with mobile apps/websites for almost everything. If I am going to carry another device like the mac, lighter and smaller is the way to go I think for convenience.
The smaller laptops get, the less room future criminals have to put bombs and whatnot in them as well.
You mean Apple? How the hell could Apple do that? They don't run the USB-IF so there is no way they could have gotten them to create an entirely new USB standard that incorporates MagSafe. And USB-C is exactly what it is. If that's the design the USB-IF decided on then that's how it is. Perhaps you mean to say that Apple was unable to create an entirely new, proprietary connector, but that would also be incorrect because there is no evidence that they weren't able to, only that they choose to use USB-C and we can then deduce that its inclusion means it was the best choice for Apple.
I'm pretty sure they meant modify the connector to that way it was Mag-safe like, but retain the USB C connector.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with dropping older technologies to pave the way for new ones (and in this case, too!), but Apple has been willing to make modifications to the standards proposed by USB-IF in the past! Admittedly I only know of them modifying power output, not anything to do with the actual form of the connector itself.
Though, I agree, this was the best choice for Apple as thus, we have it!
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but anyway, IMO this MacBook is badass. Just not my cup of tea. I need a powerhouse and am constantly connecting my current mbp to external devices left and right but in another world....
Once people actually see it up close, they will want it.
Lack of ports? Not a problem for most.
It is however a problem for enough that they can't consider this machine.
No magsafe? Magsafe was made for the era of 4-5 hrs. battery life.
No MagSafe solved a real problem with recepticals on laptops. The standing battery life means nothing in this context.
Intel Core-M processor? Enough for most.
Well that remains to be seen. For many it is too much of a regression.
480P facetime camera? Maybe a bit disappointing but no one is going to be shooting HD video on it either.
Im not one to use FaceTime as I'm far to ugly for that! However that is still pretty pathetic resolution for this machine. It is probably the result of the thin screen more than anything. Since I don't care I can't knock it but I can see where some users would be disappointed.
Many look at just specs and under estimate the allure of the object. Many tend to want to overspec their machines as well.
To this I have to say baloney! By the way that is based on years of buying computers for personal use and spacing them at work. The sad reality is that operating systems tend to expand to the point of crippling older machines. As such you need to think carefully about machine configuration especially if you expect to keep the platform for more than a couple of years. If any thing people tend to under spec their machines?
I predict, this will sell, big time.
I suspect Kuo is right here, it will take awhile after which we will see a ramp up in sales as suitable support hardware arrives and the platform will likely get a huge boost in sales once SkyLake is in the machine.
As I am not the only app developer with these constraints, I am not so sure it will sell like crazy.
Students don't need these extra ports for school and college and there are far more students in the world than developers. Apple is going for marketshare here. Also any serious developer should be using a rMBP.
Get good reply. Trekking solo over the Alps? Well I did the Mont Blanc Circuit in 1992 but not any more.
With a Hide (Blind to Americans) and 40Kg of Camera Gear a 17in Laptop is not excessve in terms of weight.
For a Studio Shoot the back of my car (Saab Estate) is full with lights, stands and backdrops.
Once again, the weight isn't excessive.
The screen size is the important thing (As well as the non glare).
There is still a market for the 17in device. If Apple were to market it properly, I'm sure they'd sell a load especially if they made it upgradable.
I really don't like this feature of new Mac's (including the iMac).
The 17" was discontinued due to slow sales and the fact that a Retina screen didn't exist for it. I could see a possible 5K 17" MBP in the future, but I'm not sure there's a market for the machine, as $3499+ could be a very real starting price point for it, and there's also the issue that GPU's driving that many pixels will need cooling space. Probably more than providable by the MBP chassis.
JUST 450M. That translate to around 1.8M - 2M a year. That's allot since the 13 Air is the number one Mac seller. That would grow the Mac market by 1-2M a year. I think Apple would be very happy with that.
Dudes, I would opt for the 11 inch air over this sleek underpowered bauble. Oops the USB C pulled out and knocked my computer on the floor! But ... what about the magnetic detach thingie that was so great? Oh, they got rid of that because ... uh ... ??? So stoked for my next Apple device but it's just not on the market today.
I've owned a rMBP since 2012. I've never had myself or anyone trip over the power cord and have the magsafe detach. It's a neat feature but I would question how often this cord tripping actually happens.
Students don't need these extra ports for school and college and there are far more students in the world than developers. Apple is going for marketshare here. Also any serious developer should be using a rMBP.
That's the same argument I'd make. It's like the devs who complained the quad-core Mini went away. 1. You're a small market, and 2. The Mini isn't for you.
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I've owned a rMBP since 2012. I've never had myself or anyone trip over the power cord and have the magsafe detach. It's a neat feature but I would question how often this cord tripping actually happens.
Less than it used to thanks to additional battery life. When you got two hours, you were plugged in a lot more.
"Sad that they weren't able to invent a USB-C connector using MagSafe. One of their absolute best inventions and it's now discarded. Too bad..."
I love the MagSafe, it saved sons MBP many times. But, I think there thought process is that you will charge it overnight and use it all day without power.
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I don't think it will replace the Air. The 12" screen is too small, but the single port is a real show stopper for me. As an app developer I always use 2 USB ports for testing and debugging and the macbook won't hold 10 hours (my typical workday) without power.
As I am not the only app developer with these constraints, I am not so sure it will sell like crazy.
We may see an adjustment of the MacBook line next year, with the MacBook Air being replace by the MacBook 13". It would be more of a rebranding with style adjustments.
One advantage of not overhauling the MacBook Air too much this year is giving the new MacBook a clear product categorisation, and selling point, and testing the acceptance of the device before doing the same things to the MacBook Air line.
Kuo is full of it. The MacBook Air was a smash, mainly due to the lightness.
Did the lack of a DVD drive slow MBA sales? Not even for a second.
Same deal here. I predict that this new puter will fly off the shelves.
A little revisionist history going on here. The MBA was NOT a hit right out of the gate. There was an initial surge when first released because of the uniqueness, but sales fizzled shortly after. It wasn't until the price reductions, adding an additional ports, and making a SSD standard that sales took off.
This is perhaps the most interesting question to be had. Other platforms using this chip have demonstrated rather poor performance which could be an implementation issue. Some benchmarks put the CPU performance at around that of a 2011 MBP which may be a problem with modern Mac OS.
What we need to see as users or potential owners is how hard and how quickly will this machine throttle. Until this Behaviour is understood we won't know what performance will be like.
In a nut shell you can't expect a lot out of this machine considering the clock rates it is being offered in. I would expect that even a MBA would run circles around this machine for more advanced users.
The screen is too small, quite simply.
A laptop should be at least 13". I think Apple should offer 13", 15" and 17" sizes only.
You do realize this retina MacBook has a resolution of 2304 x 1440 which is greater than the 17" MacBook Pro offered in 2007 which had a resolution of 1680 x 1050 don't you? For something that sits in your lap a bigger screen isn't all that important, a higher resolution is much better because you're able to have the benefits of an old, large sized screen in a much smaller package.
But I was hoping to wait a few more years before I start having to wear reading glasses.
For me, it's not a matter of If. It's a matter of which. I want to try out the space gray or the gold mac or maybe stick with silver since I'm a silver person generally speaking.
The screen is too small, quite simply.
A laptop should be at least 13". I think Apple should offer 13", 15" and 17" sizes only.
I would have to disagree. I prefer my laptop to be as portable as possible when I'm sitting on the couch, on an air plane or at a coffee shop, which is probably 75% of my laptop use.
If I do need to do more high-efficiency work (25% of the time), I plug my laptop into a monitor and switch to keyboard and mouse.
It would be a pain to lug around a huge laptop everywhere for that 25%.
Don't be surprised if there is no more Macbook Airs by the end of 2016. I think Apple is going to ditch the "Air" name in the future. That includes the iPad line.
Resolution isn't everything.
My 2012 15in MBP is maxed out with an i7, 16Gb RAM and 2x 1TB SSD's. (no DVD drive).
I'd use it more if I could put 32GB ram in it like my HP Windows Laptop (17in screen, 32Gb Ram 3.5TB of SSD)
Yeah, I run a shed load of VM's. But I can only run 2/3rd of the plant's systems on my MBP.
I do use it for Photo and Video editing. A shoot last week used up some 90Gb of storage.
So I'd like a 17in MBP with an i7, 32Gb Ram max and the ability to have at least 2TB of SSD storage inside.
If it has a retina display then great but it isn't a deal breaker for me.
Sadly, Apple isn't in the market of supplying luggable devices with this sort of power.
Luggable is right. I saw a 17" MBP's setup on a shoot. They (2) were mounted in a specialized hard case and included SSD drives and connectors to be able to copy just shot footage directly from camera cards. The kit would be set up in a trailer / truck to provide an on-set edit suite. In other words, the thing was luggable but not easily portable if you wanted to trek solo across the alps. This was a feature film / commercials set-up. As soon as the 17" mbp's were discontinued I thought it obvious that someone would re-build that kit to include one or two fully loaded Mini's or 13" MBP's, and mount a high res monitor to the inside of the case lid. The whole thing would be just as portable and probably a better solution. Perhaps it already exists. I can easily see someone using a 27" iMac in a hard case like that, even.
And the MacBook Air is still a smash. Thanks, in part, to several price drops. I seem to recall that the original January 2008 MBA went for something like $1499. It was more of an Executive Laptop than a mainstream consumer model. Now both the 11" and 13" MBAs start at under $1k, replacing the old white plastic MacBook as the low-end Mac.
It will be interesting to see if and when the new MacBook starts to out-sell the 13" MBA and the 13" MBP. I think two things will appeal to consumers: the 2 lb. weight and the two new color options. It will appeal to the masses who don't need to do too much heavy computing every day (e.g. video editing and conversion, Xcode development, Adobe bloatware usage, etc.) who want a high-quality laptop. But I can see that there might be some resistance to the USB C port. "Where do I plug in my camera's memory card?" "I can't charge my MacBook and iPhone at the same time?"
I think very very few actually use the SD card slot. They use their iPhones or other smartphone.
The MBA started at $1799, with 2GB RAM (and no option to upgrade!), either a super slow 4200RPM PATA hard drive or a $1000 64GB SSD (no, I'm not kidding on that price), and a 1.6 or 1.8GHz processor. This MacBook is a bargain at $1299.
I initially purchased a Macbook Air to take on vacations (we tend to travel abroad) and local trips, in order to perform backup and manipulation of photos from my DSLR camera. The MBA has worked wonderfully for this, but it's old, and by current standards has very little storage capacity. I need to get a replacement, but if the goal is to have a compact, convenient system for the uses I outlined above, I don't see how this new Macbook can do it. No SD card slot. No USB for me to offload from precious HD space onto a thumbdrive, no way to connect an inexpensive external drive for a tertiary backup. Now, if I get the new Macbook, I have to spend a way too much money for adapters on top of an already expensive notebook just to regain this basic functionality, and I end up with a package that is far more inconvenient to use (I have to keep track of all those adapters). Additionally, if I'm in the middle of the Philippines (our most common destination), and an adapter breaks or gets lost, I'm simply screwed, unless I want to book a couple flights to go to Manila and buy one there. Having Apple.com deliver one just isn't a serious option like it is in a western country, at least not in the time frames that I spend in a single location.
Maybe there is some niche group that will benefit from this new device (such as those who can't live without a gaudy gold-colored computer), but I don't see much use in it personally. Hopefully, they will wake up and release a MBA with some ports.
I realize that there will be super-expensive options for me to buy new thumbdrives and external hard-drives eventually so that I can replace my perfectly good ones at increased costs due to a whim on the part of Apple, but this still does not fix the fact that I cannot connect easily get the photos from my camera to the computer. And to anyone about to suggest getting a sd-card wifi adapter, I have. They work like crap.
I initially purchased a Macbook Air to take on vacations (we tend to travel abroad) and local trips, in order to perform backup and manipulation of photos from my DSLR camera. The MBA has worked wonderfully for this, but it's old, and by current standards has very little storage capacity. I need to get a replacement, but if the goal is to have a compact, convenient system for the uses I outlined above, I don't see how this new Macbook can do it. No SD card slot. No USB for me to offload from precious HD space onto a thumbdrive, no way to connect an inexpensive external drive for a tertiary backup. Now, if I get the new Macbook, I have to spend a way too much money for adapters on top of an already expensive notebook just to regain this basic functionality, and I end up with a package that is far more inconvenient to use (I have to keep track of all those adapters). Additionally, if I'm in the middle of the Philippines (our most common destination), and an adapter breaks or gets lost, I'm simply screwed, unless I want to book a couple flights to go to Manila and buy one there. Having Apple.com deliver one just isn't a serious option like it is in a western country, at least not in the time frames that I spend in a single location.
Maybe there is some niche group that will benefit from this new device (such as those who can't live without a gaudy gold-colored computer), but I don't see much use in it personally. Hopefully, they will wake up and release a MBA with some ports.
I realize that there will be super-expensive options for me to buy new thumbdrives and external hard-drives eventually so that I can replace my perfectly good ones at increased costs due to a whim on the part of Apple, but this still does not fix the fact that I cannot connect easily get the photos from my camera to the computer. And to anyone about to suggest getting a sd-card wifi adapter, I have. They work like crap.
Maybe you should get a MBP?
The USB-USB Type C adapter is $19. And with this new MacBook, there's no longer a proprietary charger so you're not dropping $80 on a MagSafe.
You also seem to assume that no one will release third-party stuff for Type C. This is an open standard, there won't be licensing fees or special needs. Accessories will come along shortly.
This looks like a solid offering to me.
Being an audiophile, i love the fanless to use the device in my media room.
The keyboard and the trackpad in particular have always been great on macs... And these looks substantially better.
As far as screen size. i have a imac retina on my desk for "big" needs. I dont see myself needing a big screen (with a lot of random work happening on my cell now). I prefer compact with mobile apps/websites for almost everything. If I am going to carry another device like the mac, lighter and smaller is the way to go I think for convenience.
The smaller laptops get, the less room future criminals have to put bombs and whatnot in them as well.
You mean Apple? How the hell could Apple do that? They don't run the USB-IF so there is no way they could have gotten them to create an entirely new USB standard that incorporates MagSafe. And USB-C is exactly what it is. If that's the design the USB-IF decided on then that's how it is. Perhaps you mean to say that Apple was unable to create an entirely new, proprietary connector, but that would also be incorrect because there is no evidence that they weren't able to, only that they choose to use USB-C and we can then deduce that its inclusion means it was the best choice for Apple.
I'm pretty sure they meant modify the connector to that way it was Mag-safe like, but retain the USB C connector.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with dropping older technologies to pave the way for new ones (and in this case, too!), but Apple has been willing to make modifications to the standards proposed by USB-IF in the past! Admittedly I only know of them modifying power output, not anything to do with the actual form of the connector itself.
Though, I agree, this was the best choice for Apple as thus, we have it!
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but anyway, IMO this MacBook is badass. Just not my cup of tea. I need a powerhouse and am constantly connecting my current mbp to external devices left and right but in another world....
I suspect Kuo is right here, it will take awhile after which we will see a ramp up in sales as suitable support hardware arrives and the platform will likely get a huge boost in sales once SkyLake is in the machine.
Get good reply. Trekking solo over the Alps? Well I did the Mont Blanc Circuit in 1992 but not any more.
With a Hide (Blind to Americans) and 40Kg of Camera Gear a 17in Laptop is not excessve in terms of weight.
For a Studio Shoot the back of my car (Saab Estate) is full with lights, stands and backdrops.
Once again, the weight isn't excessive.
The screen size is the important thing (As well as the non glare).
There is still a market for the 17in device. If Apple were to market it properly, I'm sure they'd sell a load especially if they made it upgradable.
I really don't like this feature of new Mac's (including the iMac).
As I am not the only app developer with these constraints, I am not so sure it will sell like crazy.
Students don't need these extra ports for school and college and there are far more students in the world than developers. Apple is going for marketshare here. Also any serious developer should be using a rMBP.
Get good reply. Trekking solo over the Alps? Well I did the Mont Blanc Circuit in 1992 but not any more.
With a Hide (Blind to Americans) and 40Kg of Camera Gear a 17in Laptop is not excessve in terms of weight.
For a Studio Shoot the back of my car (Saab Estate) is full with lights, stands and backdrops.
Once again, the weight isn't excessive.
The screen size is the important thing (As well as the non glare).
There is still a market for the 17in device. If Apple were to market it properly, I'm sure they'd sell a load especially if they made it upgradable.
I really don't like this feature of new Mac's (including the iMac).
The 17" was discontinued due to slow sales and the fact that a Retina screen didn't exist for it. I could see a possible 5K 17" MBP in the future, but I'm not sure there's a market for the machine, as $3499+ could be a very real starting price point for it, and there's also the issue that GPU's driving that many pixels will need cooling space. Probably more than providable by the MBP chassis.
Dudes, I would opt for the 11 inch air over this sleek underpowered bauble. Oops the USB C pulled out and knocked my computer on the floor! But ... what about the magnetic detach thingie that was so great? Oh, they got rid of that because ... uh ... ??? So stoked for my next Apple device but it's just not on the market today.
I've owned a rMBP since 2012. I've never had myself or anyone trip over the power cord and have the magsafe detach. It's a neat feature but I would question how often this cord tripping actually happens.
Students don't need these extra ports for school and college and there are far more students in the world than developers. Apple is going for marketshare here. Also any serious developer should be using a rMBP.
That's the same argument I'd make. It's like the devs who complained the quad-core Mini went away. 1. You're a small market, and 2. The Mini isn't for you.
I've owned a rMBP since 2012. I've never had myself or anyone trip over the power cord and have the magsafe detach. It's a neat feature but I would question how often this cord tripping actually happens.
Less than it used to thanks to additional battery life. When you got two hours, you were plugged in a lot more.
I love the MagSafe, it saved sons MBP many times. But, I think there thought process is that you will charge it overnight and use it all day without power.