All the poor black kids growing up in impoverished, fatherless homes. All the young black men slaughtering each other on the streets of cities such as Detroit. There's also the readful inner city schools and liberals who fight to keep the poor from having the same choices as they have.
And yet what gets Apple all hot and bothered. A flag in a game about a long-ago war.
I hold Apple at it's highest regards, but I am a bit concerned about the recent decision making and flip flopping that is happening and that too within a very short period of time. Tim, please reign in your Executives and let's not make habit of this. Apple doesn't need to react right away to anything. This makes you very venerable and week. Many of these external events disappear in very sort time - People have already moved on to SCOTUS decisions this week.
I am sure people will forget about Apple actions in few weeks when they announce gang buster results. But let's act like #1 company that too many years for Steve and some of you to get here. Like they say - Up Hill is hard, but it doesn't take much to go down hill! Strangely - Gravity does play it's part in strange places.
Well said. (Although, I think you may have meant 'vulnerable and weak';))
Who decides what's offensive? Some low level software engineer at Apple? I know it's their store and they can do whatever they want with it but it seems clear even Apple employees are unsure what's offensive and what's not. How about don't touch anything and if Apple starts getting complaints from people then review that specific app.
The people who have been deciding this stuff since 2008. When the AppStore was launched. Thankfully, not you. Or do you want them to get your opinion before they make decisions? Yeah, people at Apple make these decisions. Every day. Thousands of times a day. Mind blowing concept, eh?
And that's your solution, don't curate anything, let everything in until people complain? Brilliant. Can't see anything going wrong with that incredibly thought out strategy.
The American people, apple's loyal customers, are deeming it offensive.
I don't agree with this analysis. There has been a huge backlash against a state government flying the flag and giving the appearance of a tacit endorsement of the Confederacy and its policies. No one (well, no one reasonable) is calling for the flag to be scrubbed from history books or even to have its public display limited.
Similarly, no one is calling for Nazi or Soviet flags to be removed from games, but there would be an outcry if a state government started flying one in a place of honor.
All the poor black kids growing up in impoverished, fatherless homes. All the young black men slaughtering each other on the streets of cities such as Detroit. There's also the readful inner city schools and liberals who fight to keep the poor from having the same choices as they have.
And yet what gets Apple all hot and bothered. A flag in a game about a long-ago war.
...Obviously there were apps out there that did display it in a mean-spirited fashion.
Possibly, but there are a dumpster full of what almost any rational person would consider "mean-spirited" apps still available on the App Store. Tons of sadistic "games". That's the problem when Apple applies wholly arbitrary rules. Mainstream violence and sadism remains acceptable, while some tiny amount of "politically incorrect" apps faced wholesale removal. The entire Apple response has the appearance of being just gutless and inconsistent.
“Five Apple employees (randomly selected in the lunch room) are asked if an app is offensive.
If three out of five agree it its offensive, it is banned"
"We can’t have developers lowering out standards by turning out “hate mongering games” said a senior Apple quality specialist in the app review department”. We only releases quality, family oriented, non-gender specific, non-hate mongering apps.
The many Fart apps, Victoria’s Secret and Boyfriend Trainer are a few examples we are proud of and fit this description exactly"
What purpose does this serve? Do you want someone to find racist posts and attribute them to conservatives and say look, see that's how they all are. No, you don't and if someone did it wouldn't make that statement true.
Well, this is one step backward from the bizarre, highly emotional and reactionary decision to pull these apps in the first place.
I'd really like to get a definition from Apple of what is "mean spirited" now. These rules are seemingly becoming more arbitrary and ridiculous.
Well Apple really needed to correct this and I glad they seemed to have done it quickly. That being said, it also helps to highlight how moronic and "knee jerk" they were originally. This is what happens when you base decisions not on sound policy but by what is the "hot button" PC issue in the media.
I'm glad you found us some random tweet by some random person to prove a claim of "liberal hypocrisy" whatever the **** that even means. Oh, and it has been retweeted a full 2x, so obviously this person is someone extremely influential and important. Amazing find Rogifan, on par with all your other "evidence-based" posts.
I'm glad you found us some random tweet by some random person to prove a claim of "liberal hypocrisy" whatever the **** that even means. Oh, and it has been retweeted a full 2x, so obviously this person is someone extremely influential and important. Amazing find Rogifan, on par with all your other "evidence-based" posts.
But one crazy person was justification to wipe the Confederate Flag from the face of the earth then?
What purpose does this serve? Do you want someone to find racist posts and attribute them to conservatives and say look, see that's how they all are. No, you don't and if someone did it wouldn't make that statement true.
Did you actually want to rebroadcast that Rogifan spew?
But one crazy person was justification to wipe the Confederate Flag from the face of the earth then?
I believe in the 1st amendment. I have no love for the confederate flag. It offends many people. Well, hip hop music offends me, but I can't have it banned.
Why? I have no right to never be offended. I only have the 1st amendment right to express my offense. See how that works?
Just remember, it was General Lee that gave the order to burn Richmond, not Grant. Never mind the warehouses were full and the people starving. It's a redneck thing (I grew up in Richmond). You know, it's like blowing your hand off with a cherry bomb or shooting off your toe.
People in America have a constitutional right to be offensive and stupid, I say let them. You want to parade a symbol of ignorance and racism, go for it.
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And yet what gets Apple all hot and bothered. A flag in a game about a long-ago war.
Apple's hypocrisy is sickening.
Well said. (Although, I think you may have meant 'vulnerable and weak';))
The people who have been deciding this stuff since 2008. When the AppStore was launched. Thankfully, not you. Or do you want them to get your opinion before they make decisions? Yeah, people at Apple make these decisions. Every day. Thousands of times a day. Mind blowing concept, eh?
And that's your solution, don't curate anything, let everything in until people complain? Brilliant. Can't see anything going wrong with that incredibly thought out strategy.
And your source for this is?
The American people, apple's loyal customers, are deeming it offensive.
I don't agree with this analysis. There has been a huge backlash against a state government flying the flag and giving the appearance of a tacit endorsement of the Confederacy and its policies. No one (well, no one reasonable) is calling for the flag to be scrubbed from history books or even to have its public display limited.
Similarly, no one is calling for Nazi or Soviet flags to be removed from games, but there would be an outcry if a state government started flying one in a place of honor.
If we want to talk about liberal hypocrisy...
...Obviously there were apps out there that did display it in a mean-spirited fashion.
Possibly, but there are a dumpster full of what almost any rational person would consider "mean-spirited" apps still available on the App Store. Tons of sadistic "games". That's the problem when Apple applies wholly arbitrary rules. Mainstream violence and sadism remains acceptable, while some tiny amount of "politically incorrect" apps faced wholesale removal. The entire Apple response has the appearance of being just gutless and inconsistent.
Who decides what's offensive?
“Five Apple employees (randomly selected in the lunch room) are asked if an app is offensive.
If three out of five agree it its offensive, it is banned"
"We can’t have developers lowering out standards by turning out “hate mongering games” said a senior Apple quality specialist in the app review department”. We only releases quality, family oriented, non-gender specific, non-hate mongering apps.
The many Fart apps, Victoria’s Secret and Boyfriend Trainer are a few examples we are proud of and fit this description exactly"
/s
(edited to add /s else someone would get bent…)
If we want to talk about liberal hypocrisy...
What purpose does this serve? Do you want someone to find racist posts and attribute them to conservatives and say look, see that's how they all are. No, you don't and if someone did it wouldn't make that statement true.
Well, this is one step backward from the bizarre, highly emotional and reactionary decision to pull these apps in the first place.
I'd really like to get a definition from Apple of what is "mean spirited" now. These rules are seemingly becoming more arbitrary and ridiculous.
Well Apple really needed to correct this and I glad they seemed to have done it quickly. That being said, it also helps to highlight how moronic and "knee jerk" they were originally. This is what happens when you base decisions not on sound policy but by what is the "hot button" PC issue in the media.
-kpluck
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I'm glad you found us some random tweet by some random person to prove a claim of "liberal hypocrisy" whatever the **** that even means. Oh, and it has been retweeted a full 2x, so obviously this person is someone extremely influential and important. Amazing find Rogifan, on par with all your other "evidence-based" posts.
I'm glad you found us some random tweet by some random person to prove a claim of "liberal hypocrisy" whatever the **** that even means. Oh, and it has been retweeted a full 2x, so obviously this person is someone extremely influential and important. Amazing find Rogifan, on par with all your other "evidence-based" posts.
But one crazy person was justification to wipe the Confederate Flag from the face of the earth then?
If we want to talk about liberal hypocrisy...
>Dim-witted tweet removed<
What purpose does this serve? Do you want someone to find racist posts and attribute them to conservatives and say look, see that's how they all are. No, you don't and if someone did it wouldn't make that statement true.
Did you actually want to rebroadcast that Rogifan spew?
But one crazy person was justification to wipe the Confederate Flag from the face of the earth then?
What the hell are you talking about? Who's wiping the flag from the face of the earth?
Did you actually want to rebroadcast that Rogifan spew?
What's your issue? If you have a problem with her post report her or take it up with her.
But one crazy person was justification to wipe the Confederate Flag from the face of the earth then?
I believe in the 1st amendment. I have no love for the confederate flag. It offends many people. Well, hip hop music offends me, but I can't have it banned.
Why? I have no right to never be offended. I only have the 1st amendment right to express my offense. See how that works?
Just remember, it was General Lee that gave the order to burn Richmond, not Grant. Never mind the warehouses were full and the people starving. It's a redneck thing (I grew up in Richmond). You know, it's like blowing your hand off with a cherry bomb or shooting off your toe.
People in America have a constitutional right to be offensive and stupid, I say let them. You want to parade a symbol of ignorance and racism, go for it.
Apple polled each one of them?
Many people find guns offensive, yet they are still there. Don't get me wrong, no govt building should fly that flag. But PC has run amok.
We have people apologizing for jokes, people being offended by everything. Enough of this already.