HTC and every other Android manufacturer deserves to lie in the bed they've made. Stagefright is just the latest and biggest torpedo to slam into the hulls of sinking Android ships. https://torusoft.com/blog/persona-non-grata
I don't have advice for Samsung, HTC, or any other Android OEM. Happy to see them lie in the bed they've made. Consumers deserve better and they're waking up. If there's any lesson for the industry thus far, it is that half-measures won't save you; ecosystems can't be bought and; racing to the bottom only benefits one's high quality competitors - leading to Apple taking 93% of the industry's profit.
It's called setting a standard. If you're going to rail against Apple's update track record when it provides OS updates over the air going back five years - you're barking up the wrong tree.
So given only Apple, Samsung, Blackberry and Microsoft appear to have the resources to develop a phone OS, you are saying that no other companies than those should be making phones?
Did you forget, or not know that HTC has a licensing agreement with Apple?
Actually I did forget. I still think copying and being unoriginal is a scumbag move.
I as a nobody today have drawn up original devices. It's hard but should be nothing to a room full of engineers(if android manufacturer's even have them).
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So given only Apple, Samsung, Blackberry and Microsoft appear to have the resources to develop a phone OS, you are saying that no other companies than those should be making phones?
Why oh WHY do people act like Jesus and his 12 desciples had iPhones and snapped selfies??
You know, iPhone is an Apple invention. Phones can exist and don't have to be knockoffs.
many people I know prefer a physical keyboard to a touchscreen. Blackberry need to realise that is what differentiates them and embrace it.
"Many people?" It must be upwards to 10s of people, given Blackberry's market share. There are people who prefer manual typewriters, and horses over cars...
There's nothing wrong with Blackberry embracing their full keyboard, but like the Titanic, it's not going anywhere...
Only 1 out of 5 companies that made their own OS was successful, so it's not the magic formula it's made out to be.
It was damn ballsie for Apple to make their own OS and take on the carriers' "total control" mantra. Even Android never could command that. Since then Apple has moved their ecosystem into a place so far ahead of everyone else, no one can catch up.
"Soon" Microsoft will begin shipping their Win10 phones... Imagine, it was only 7 years late to responding to the iPhone, along with three abortive Win OSs (Win 7, Win8, and Win8.1) along the way. (Not even counting the Kin OS).
I guess that shows how hard it is to make an OS if you don't have a seat at Apple's boardroom, scribbling notes like crazy.
Only 1 out of 5 companies that made their own OS was successful, so it's not the magic formula it's made out to be.
It was damn ballsie for Apple to make their own OS and take on the carriers' "total control" mantra. Even Android never could command that. Since then Apple has moved their ecosystem into a place so far ahead of everyone else, no one can catch up.
"Soon" Microsoft will begin shipping their Win10 phones... Imagine, it was only 7 years late to responding to the iPhone, along with three abortive Win OSs (Win 7, Win8, and Win8.1) along the way. (Not even counting the Kin OS).
I guess that shows how hard it is to make an OS if you don't have a seat at Apple's boardroom, scribbling notes like crazy.
Obviously it's not easy, DUH!!! Why do people here make it out to be?
What kind of ecosystem does Windows mobile have? Piss poor.
Its game over for premium phone builders. No one can complete with Apple. They should just close up shop instead of losing BILLIONS.
Look at this way. Both Microsoft and Google FAILED. And both threw BILLIONS in investment, have powerful brands and still failed. How the hell is HTC suppose to compete? They can't.
I predict that HTC, Sony, LG will all stop premium phone production in a year. Samsung will continue for a couple more years. But eventually they too will stop trying to compete with Apple at the premium price point.
While there might be a decline in the "premium" market for Android (e.g. same price levels as an iPhone), there will of course continue to be a market for higher-end devices that are not Apple, for a number of reasons.
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HTC and every other Android manufacturer deserves to lie in the bed they've made. Stagefright is just the latest and biggest torpedo to slam into the hulls of sinking Android ships. https://torusoft.com/blog/persona-non-grata
So when you have finished crowing about Apple's security superiority, please let me know if Apple have changed their mind about not fixing the security hole in all versions of OSX prior to Yosemite: http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/04/09/update-your-mac-apple-fixes-major-flaw-in-os-x-yosemite-but-wont-patch-lion-mountain-lion-or-mavericks
That's not answering the question
I don't have advice for Samsung, HTC, or any other Android OEM. Happy to see them lie in the bed they've made. Consumers deserve better and they're waking up. If there's any lesson for the industry thus far, it is that half-measures won't save you; ecosystems can't be bought and; racing to the bottom only benefits one's high quality competitors - leading to Apple taking 93% of the industry's profit.
So when you have finished crowing about Apple's security superiority, please let me know if Apple have changed their mind about not fixing the security hole in all versions of OSX prior to Yosemite: http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/04/09/update-your-mac-apple-fixes-major-flaw-in-os-x-yosemite-but-wont-patch-lion-mountain-lion-or-mavericks
It's called setting a standard. If you're going to rail against Apple's update track record when it provides OS updates over the air going back five years - you're barking up the wrong tree.
What does a 20% success rate say?
What does a 20% success rate say?
93% of the entire industry's profit.
You're good at not answering questions
I think the quote speaks for itself.
All bears that are yellow should be avoided if the preceding sunset was purple and the year is evenly divisible by 2.
You're good at not answering questions
You're not so hot at asking them.
I ask the ones people are afraid to answer. Too hot
From what I understand Tizen makes Android look like a great phone OS.
Did you forget, or not know that HTC has a licensing agreement with Apple?
Actually I did forget. I still think copying and being unoriginal is a scumbag move.
I as a nobody today have drawn up original devices. It's hard but should be nothing to a room full of engineers(if android manufacturer's even have them).
So given only Apple, Samsung, Blackberry and Microsoft appear to have the resources to develop a phone OS, you are saying that no other companies than those should be making phones?
Why oh WHY do people act like Jesus and his 12 desciples had iPhones and snapped selfies??
You know, iPhone is an Apple invention. Phones can exist and don't have to be knockoffs.
What does a 20% success rate say?
%20 success rate of what? and Who?
Only 1 out of 5 companies that made their own OS was successful, so it's not the magic formula it's made out to be.
"Many people?" It must be upwards to 10s of people, given Blackberry's market share. There are people who prefer manual typewriters, and horses over cars...
There's nothing wrong with Blackberry embracing their full keyboard, but like the Titanic, it's not going anywhere...
Like Apple did with Xerox?
It was damn ballsie for Apple to make their own OS and take on the carriers' "total control" mantra. Even Android never could command that. Since then Apple has moved their ecosystem into a place so far ahead of everyone else, no one can catch up.
"Soon" Microsoft will begin shipping their Win10 phones... Imagine, it was only 7 years late to responding to the iPhone, along with three abortive Win OSs (Win 7, Win8, and Win8.1) along the way. (Not even counting the Kin OS).
I guess that shows how hard it is to make an OS if you don't have a seat at Apple's boardroom, scribbling notes like crazy.
Apple paid Xerox for the idea, however Apple looked at the $100,000 Xerox computer and said we can do that for $2500.
Copying is still copying, paid or unpaid.
Copying is still copying, paid or unpaid.
The former tends to be called "licensing", though.
If you want to call it "copying", go right ahead, but do expect to be laughed at, heartily.
Obviously it's not easy, DUH!!! Why do people here make it out to be?
LOL. Hell no.
What kind of ecosystem does Windows mobile have? Piss poor.
Its game over for premium phone builders. No one can complete with Apple. They should just close up shop instead of losing BILLIONS.
Look at this way. Both Microsoft and Google FAILED. And both threw BILLIONS in investment, have powerful brands and still failed. How the hell is HTC suppose to compete? They can't.
I predict that HTC, Sony, LG will all stop premium phone production in a year. Samsung will continue for a couple more years. But eventually they too will stop trying to compete with Apple at the premium price point.
While there might be a decline in the "premium" market for Android (e.g. same price levels as an iPhone), there will of course continue to be a market for higher-end devices that are not Apple, for a number of reasons.