Three weeks after calling for Apple boycott, Donald Trump is tweeting from his iPhone again

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  • Reply 41 of 131
    volcanvolcan Posts: 1,799member
    sdw2001 said:

    Obamacare is a nightmare...many mainstream people have called for ending it.  It's not working and is costing tens of billions and hurting employment.  Why is ending it even close to radical?  Repealing laws?  Are you kidding?  The GOP will hold Congress, and he will sign the bill they send on day one. 
    Not even the GOP is that stupid. They all agree that in order to repeal Obamacare they would need some other program to replace it with. Ain't gonna happen on day one. Things like this go to show that he doesn't think before he speaks. Not a good quality for a president.
    edited March 2016 ration alfrankie
  • Reply 42 of 131
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    I am not sure I have ever heard of a more two faced, bigoted, lying, politician in the history of US politics. There is no way this man even deserves a place anywhere near the 
    White House. Maybe an out house because we all know what he is full of.
    http://shitfortrump.com
    argonautspheric
  • Reply 43 of 131
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    volcan said:
    apple ][ said:

    I truly believe that there will be a wall, not just a wall, but a huge wall, a big, beautiful wall, and construction will begin on it pretty quickly, after he's won.  
    The border is 2,000 miles long and 1900 of it is the middle of the Rio Grande. The US has treaties with Mexico regarding the river which would be in conflict with building a wall. Neither the US nor Mexico is going to willingly give up access to the river or lose territory so I don't know where you think this wall will be built.
    Trump will off course go to war with mexico, kill all the family members of the politicians there, hey what's one more murder hey.... (sic) (I wish I was joking).
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 44 of 131
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    apple ][ said:
    I truly believe that there will be a wall, not just a wall, but a huge wall, a big, beautiful wall, and construction will begin on it pretty quickly, after he's won. :#


    We all know how ineffective that other great wall (the Berlin one) was for almost 30 years. You won't keep the people from getting over, under or through it if they are determined enough.
    Berlin wall = keep people and citizens locked in, because commie paradises are so wonderful, that people must be forced to live in them, with little chance of escape.

    Trump wall = keep illegal intruders and criminals out, protecting the citizens of your own nation

    And the Berlin wall was actually extremely effective, for many decades. A few people here and there managed to get across, but many more probably died trying and the wall did work.
  • Reply 45 of 131
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    sdw2001 said:
    volcan said:
    He flip-flops on many issues so no one really knows what he is calling for, but I can tell you he would have a difficult time banning Muslims, killing terrorists' family members, taking away birth-right citizenship, getting rid of the EPA and defunding the Department of Education and Welfare. He said he would knock out Obama Care on day one. The President cannot simply repeal laws. Besides being bellicose and vulgar, he has no experience in governing and it shows. Don't get me wrong, I'm not for any candidate. They are all terrible.
    Now hold on..."having trouble getting X done" doesn't mean something is radical.  Banning Muslims may or may not be the rihgt policy, but there is no question the President has the authority to do it.  Killing terrorists' family members really depends on the exact circumstances, but unless he means straight-up murdering them, it's not "radical."  Obamacare is a nightmare...many mainstream people have called for ending it.  It's not working and is costing tens of billions and hurting employment.  Why is ending it even close to radical?  Repealing laws?  Are you kidding?  The GOP will hold Congress, and he will sign the bill they send on day one.  You do realize that, correct?  
    As for him being vulgar and bellicose, that has nothing to do with being "radical."  Trump is far from a radical.  In fact, he's the opposite.  He's not an ideologue of any kind.  You may not like him, but that doesn't make him "radical."  
    Wow, ignore list . Seriously tired of such idiocy and rationalizations.
    edited March 2016 montrosemacs
  • Reply 46 of 131
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    volcan said:
    I'm not so sure he has the authority to ban Muslims.
    Sure does. It’s codified in law.
    That would likely have to be tested in the Supreme Court as it is discrimination of religion. 
    THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO NON-AMERICANS.

    Fucking pathological altruism needs to die immediately.

    volcan said:
    They all agree that in order to repeal Obamacare they would need some other program to replace it with.
    No, not in the slightest. We don’t need marxism. Here:

    Healthcare in America is something of a mess. Nowadays, as average citizens find acquiring decent treatment more and more of a struggle, they call upon their politicians to fix the system. The system, some say, is too permissive of the insurance companies, the hospitals, the pharmaceutical companies, etc. They say that there needs to be some sort of demand side counter-balance to the supply side of the medicine economy.

    The problem with this political position is that it asks for a government solution to a government-caused problem. It asks that we continue to tinker with the medico-economic machine “Healthcare” and get the knobs and gauges just right. Before we begin to do that, we ought to take a look at where the gauges and knobs are standing right now, how politics has already distorted medicine. There are two categories which we can use to describe the problematic ways the government interferes with medicine today: restrictions and subsidies. What we have today is a virtual ratking of lobby-law, bureaucracy, and demagoguery. The author suggests that before we write yet more legislation on what should go where, we aught to repeal laws which already do so and observe whether medicine becomes more affordably and sensibly distributed.

    RESTRICTIONS

    Illegality of Cross-State Insurance Purchases

    Consumers are prohibited from reaching across state lines to purchase their health insurance. This narrows the selection of insurance plans available to consumers, encourages graft in each state, and makes insurance pricing less competitive.

    Licensure of Medicine

    Doctors, clinics, hospitals, and insurance providers must become licensed by local, state, or federal government, depending on the scenario, in order to provide care. Doctors are licensed by the American Medical Association (which monopolizes the licensure of all physicians in America) and granted “scope-of-practice” privileges by states. Hospitals and clinics are licensed by municipalities, and insurance providers are licensed by state governments. The essential function of licensure in this case is to exclude would-be providers. Licensure has capital and credential requirements, which then erect barriers to lower-cost solutions. For example, a would-be doctor who may not have attended a prestigious medical academy but could diagnosis common diseases is prohibited from providing care. Hospitals require “certificates-of-need” in order to start construction, which are handed out by municipal or state planning boards. Hospitals can create local monopolies by influencing planning boards not to award “certificates-of-need.” Such restrictionary measures may sound good at first, but become blaring bulls-eyes for medicine monopolists. Thus, there is a restricted supply of medical facilities and professionals.

    Health Exchange Boards

    In many states, insurance policies are determined in governmental organizations called health exchange boards, wherein state representatives and insurance representatives negotiate a fixed number of policies available to the citizenry. This is supposed to cut down on complications between private industry and medicare/medicaid. What is also means is that a certain number of insurance policies are never made available to the public, and these health exchange boards can also be used to exclude lesser-capitalized insurance groups. These boards limit your coverage options for the sake of bureaucratic convenience and tend to exclude policies which cover less and cost less. 

    Insurance Alternatives Regulated

    At the turn of the century, people belonging to fraternal societies were able to afford basic medical care for the entire year for just a day’s wages. Fraternal societies were created as an alternative to insurance companies, where members could buy into the communal pool and then collectively hire a doctor to work on wages. Elitist doctors were humiliated by this ‘lodge-practice’ and demanded the AMA be created, which then only granted licenses to those who did not do ‘lodge-practice.’ Mutual aid societies withered away in response to both the licensure and the capital and reserve requirements which were imposed on all ‘insurance companies,’ which were too burdensome for the comparatively small mutual aid societies to comply with. Competition in insurance stagnated as alternatives were prohibited.

    Unionism in Medicine

    Medicine is a unionized industry. Nurses and other random hospital personnel, through their unions, demand that certain processes be made impossible unless under the supervision of a unionized worker. This means that jobs which require only the labor of one person become jobs that require the labor of six people. The hospital, and ultimately the taxpayer, then has to pay for said extra labor. This also raises the barrier to entry for possible competing clinics, if they can't provide certain services without hiring unnecessary workers.

    Patents

    Patenting is when a government gives an inventor a monopoly over an idea. Said inventor may then punish others should they try to use the same idea, using only their own private property. This limits the amount of providers-per-innovative-idea to one. Some might say that patents are a necessary carrot to the proverbial horse for spurring innovation. Patent lawyer Stefan Kinsella disagrees, saying that empirical evidence suggests that patenting actually has a depressing effect on innovation. Patenting in the medical industry leads to needlessly expensive medical goods, namely machinery and pharmaceuticals.

    Food and Drug Administration

    The FDA is an organization which screens products for safety and quality before giving them the green light for sale and consumption. It has also been captured by agribusiness corporations since its very inception. It slows the release of new medicines, prohibits people from trying alternatives, and occasionally seizes property and privilege only to confer it to a state-blessed enterprise. This discretionary authority, especially when seized by monopolistic interest, leads to slowed innovation, fewer products available, and product markups as large as 37 times.

    Medicare/Medicaid Price Fixing

    The Medicaid and Medicare programs set the minimum reimbursement rates, which companies then use as a baseline. This system encourages you to go onto an insurance plan. Physicians offer lower prices to clients with insurance to try to attract business and then charge higher prices to make up for said insurance discount. This means then, that those without insurance and can probably least afford care, end up paying the most for it. Without price-fixing for procedures and treatments, there would be no general minimum charge and physicians wouldn't have to discount insurance companies to attract clients. 

    Paperwork

    Paperwork in general is a restriction on business. It raises the costs of a business, as entrepreneurs are forced to comply with regulations, as well as employ lawyers and pencil pushers to sort through red tape. This disadvantages small businesses as they aren’t politically connected enough to avoid regulation and also are more sensitive to high costs of businesses than are large businesses. Paperwork slants markets in favor of well-established businesses.

    SUBSIDIES

    Institutional Tilt Towards Insurance

    When everyone is encouraged to go on health insurance, everything is encouraged, and even employers are encouraged to provide health insurance, the consumer’s function as a discriminator and cost-cutter is qualitatively altered. Instead of economizing and considering every purchase of medicine, the care-seeker will simply ask for help and sign the bill. Care-givers, acknowledging this, will sell high-cost options primarily and not suffer for it, seeing as the care-seeker's treatment is being covered by his insurance company. What happens over time when consumers do not seek the best bang for their buck is that both treatments and insurance rates will go up.

    Mandatory Coverage of Specific Conditions

    Insurance companies are compelled by law to offer coverage to certain treatments in all of their policies. This benefits the person with said medical condition to the disadvantage of all without said medical condition. All are forced to pay for the now higher rate, due to the increment of risk added by mandatory extra coverage, whether they want to be covered for said condition or not. If a person A has a certain condition, it is not the responsibility of the next person to subsidize the treatment of person A. Insurance plans become homogenized and unnecessarily expensive. This encourages people not to avoid certain conditions, such as obesity or heart disease. 

    Aid to Hospitals (Equipment)

    Hospitals receive aid for having the West and greatest hi-tech equipment. This encourages hospitals to spend too much money on expensive equipment, party paid for by taxpayers. And since the hospitals aren’t buying the equipment because of a legitimate need but because of a political incentive, they are not discriminating buyers. Thus, we can expect that suppliers of expensive medical equipment will raise prices comfortably without fearing that hospitals will stop buying. 

    Aid to Hospitals (Patients)

    The government will pay for a share of a patient's hospital bill Wit is sufficiently huge. Since hospitals are non-competitive they will respond by ratcheting up the hospital bill to get federal money. Citizens, in the aggregate of their tax forms and ER bills, end up paying twice as much. 

    Aid to Employers

    The federal tax code encourages employers to provide their employees with health insurance. Some might say this is great, but it is not. Employers offer that health insurance out of your wages. Though the wage compensation you would get if employers were not encouraged to off you health insurance would probably not, at this moment, be as big as the total value of the health insurance he does provide you, at this moment, it causes some big problems. Firstly, it programs you to clutch your job like a life-line, whereas if you acquired insurance independently, you could go where you liked. If you value independence and self-respect, that’s problematic. This also disables the consumer choice mechanism: no one will leave their job just to get a different healthcare plan. Secondly, it puts everyone on bloated insurance plans, which leads to the problems described above (insurance for things you don't need to be insured for, can pay for yourself, don’t need to pay for, etc.) 

    Inflation

    Since much of the deficit is financed out of Open Market Operations and Medicaid and Medicare are about half of the deficit, a sizable chunk of all printed money goes into government spending in healthcare. This means that the government's buying activity in healthcare drives the prices up and those not on the government healthcare teat will have to pay higher prices; not having had the privilege of paying yesterday's low prices with tomorrow's new money, they will have the pain of paying tomorrow's high prices with yesterday's old money. As the deficit gets worse, more debt will have to be monetized, and there will be more inflation in healthcare. Meaning, healthcare isn't getting any cheaper. 

    America does have a healthcare problem. It’s a problem of graft, lopsidedness, short-sightedness, bureaucracy, lobbyism, and pharmaceutical and insurance company influence. It’s a problem that competitive enterprise and free association could fix easily, but they are prohibited. Before you seek to bring down the hammer of legislation on America’s demented healthcare industry’s head, try releasing it from bondage. Try letting people form their own organizations, innovate independently, provide their own services and products, live outside of the influence of insurance companies and governments, and make their own decisions. If the price of healthcare doesn't come down after that, then start talking about legislation.

    Sources

    1. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203550604574360923109310680.html

    2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Medical_Association

    3. http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa-621.pdf

    4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_need

    5. http://www.freenation.org/a/f1213.html

    6. http://capitalresearch.org/2012/08/hospital-unionization-harms-the-sick/

    7. http://archive.mises.org/10217/yet-another-study-finds-patents-do-not-encourage-innovation/

    8. http://surgerycenterofoklahoma.tumblr.com/post/33608272505/food-and-drug-gangsters

    9. http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/06/medicare_reform_its_the_price_fixing_stupid.html

    10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnS96NV1MI

    11. http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/smith-gk1.1.1.html

    12. http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/The-Health-Coverage-Tax-Credit-(HCTC)-Program

    13. http://mises.org/daily/6014/


    This isn’t one all-encompassing bullshit federal overreach plan. These are things that need to be, mostly, REPEALED, individually. Obamacare is gone, day one, period, by virtue of Trump simply changing the regulations within the executive branch to make it be entirely unnecessary. It doesn’t matter how obstructionist the RINOs and DINOs want to be if the plan self-destructs.

    Same with deporting all of the illegals, which WILL happen. You don’t have to round them all up. Make it a felony to hire, house, aid, abet, or otherwise acknowledge the existence of them, nationally, and you’ll see them leave on their own.
    edited March 2016 apple ][
  • Reply 47 of 131
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    apple ][ said:
    I truly believe that there will be a wall, not just a wall, but a huge wall, a big, beautiful wall, and construction will begin on it pretty quickly, after he's won. :#


    We all know how ineffective that other great wall (the Berlin one) was for almost 30 years. You won't keep the people from getting over, under or through it if they are determined enough.
    That wall as also quite short. In fact, what made going across hard was not the wall, the but the Stazi that could inform on you before you even had the chance to get across. That's what kept people in line, rather than just the physical line; don't think Mexico will become a police state and collaborate with the US just to please Trump...
  • Reply 48 of 131
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
    apple ][ said:
    fallenjt said:
    Idiotss, racists and uneducated ones are those voting for this hypocrite.
    Anti-American people, pro-terrorists, racists, uneducated low-info voters, welfare recipients, bums, illegals and losers looking for handouts are the ones who favor Hillary.
    of all AI posters, you're the only one voting for this idiot Chump. I ain't favor Clinton either. Most GOP are against Trump too and trying to stop him. What I can see is that this joker just has a big mouth, nothing else. He's been spewing BS all over the places. Fck him.
    edited March 2016 jackansiargonautboopthesnootliquidmark
  • Reply 49 of 131
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
    volcan said:
    The border is 2,000 miles long and 1900 of it is the middle of the Rio Grande.
    And?
    Not really. Build it on the US side.
    Because the alternative is putting the border where it was legally supposed to be. Mexico probably won’t go for that until the cartels own the north entirely.
    You forgot that they dig tunnels through the border too. Building wall is just a Trump's BS to get votes from those who are fed up with illegal immigrants in general and Latino illegal immigrant to be specific. I am not a supporter of illegal immigrants either, but building the damn wall and making Mexico to pay for it is beyond delusion. 
  • Reply 50 of 131
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    fallenjt said:
    You forgot that they dig tunnels through the border too.
    Walls need foundations.
    Building wall is just a Trump's BS to get votes
    It will be built and they will all be deported. The country can’t survive otherwise.
    …making Mexico to pay for it…
    Oh, they’ll pay for it, all right. People are just lazy when it comes to the definition of ‘pay’.
  • Reply 50 of 131
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member
    spice-boy said:
    We are witnessing the biggest budget reality tv show ever produced.
    Will you have yourself committed on election day, then? Fuck’s sake.
    So you and many others are just blitheringly stupid?

    What part of my statement did you not understand? Anyone that believes his campaign is for real probably believes in god. 
    argonaut
  • Reply 52 of 131
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    apple ][ said:
    ireland said:
    Only a Trump supporter could make such a statement.
    Plenty of people despise Hillary, a hell of a lot more people than just Trump supporters.

    So Trump is using an iPhone again? Big deal.

    Hillary lied directly to the families of dead American soldiers. Now that is truly disgusting, despicable and anti-American. A hell of a lot more disgusting than using an iPhone.
    That's just such bull. Benghazi! was a major confusion a continent away: so answers demanded immediately were imperfect? Grow up. That's aside from the teensy detail? NONE of the four were soldiers, "American" or otherwise and that's sort of disrespectful of the dead right there to not even get their details right.

    ENDLESS Republican Congressional investigations and reports have found precisely ZERO basis for any of that nonsense: zero. To the degree there's responsibility it probably lies within the CIA who didn't want the existence of their special operations compound made public, so the details of the fate of the two operators who died in the  later mortar attack at the CIA site got deliberately blurred. The two civilians at the consulate? Carbon monoxide poisoning, reported rather early on by multiple sources.
    edited March 2016 spice-boydsd
  • Reply 53 of 131
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member

    volcan said:
    apple ][ said:

    It will not be necessary to build the wall for the entire length of the border.

    Whatever few complications there might be, I am confident that they will be resolved in a satisfactory manner.
    The most often used method of illegally entering the US from Mexico is where the wall would need to be to have any effect and it just happens that they usually cross the river and make their way through the desert. So again how is the wall going to work unless it is the entire distance? To me it seems like there is nothing but complications.

    The Mexican illegals are quite skillful at tunnel building as well. I would think a better strategy might be to use high technology to detect illegal entry attempts and to greatly increase the number of human border enforcement personnel. 
    The solution just has to be internal, something like a non-non-counterfeitable biometric identity card for the verification of employable status. Madrid has a very severe illegal immigrant problem and guess where they come from? South America  aka an entire OCEAN separating the two. So a measly "wall" versus the Atlantic Ocean? Please. The wall would end at the beach right? so they'd boat around it.
  • Reply 54 of 131
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member

    volcan said:
    sdw2001 said:

    Tell me one "radical" thing he's said.  Banning Muslim immigration temporarily?  It's been done.  Stopping illegal immigration and deporting those who broke into the country?  It's done all over the world, and has been done here.  Calling for tax reform and a strong military?  Competition in healthcare?  Seriously, name one thing he's called for that's radical.  
    He flip-flops on many issues so no one really knows what he is calling for, but I can tell you he would have a difficult time banning Muslims, killing terrorists' family members, taking away birth-right citizenship, getting rid of the EPA and defunding the Department of Education and Welfare. He said he would knock out Obama Care on day one. The President cannot simply repeal laws. Besides being bellicose and vulgar, he has no experience in governing and it shows. Don't get me wrong, I'm not for any candidate. They are all terrible.
    I am a democratic voter and I would vote for Cruz if he wins GOP nominee. This is the first election that I don't really want to vote except to vote for legalizing Pot in California. 
    argonaut
  • Reply 55 of 131
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,597member
    jungmark said:
    Is it too late to move to Florida and vote against this jackass in the primaries? 
    Shouldn't have to worry. The RNC has realized the situation they're in and they've decided Cruz is the best hope. Kasich is now focusing only on Ohio, Rubio only on Florida, and the campaigns are telling how to vote to ensure Trump doesn't get the nomination. 
    I hate to say this, because the guy is not fit to be president, but Cruz would be an even worse choice. The fact that these two idiots are the Republican front runners says a lot about the pathetic condition of the party. The ongoing dumbing down of America continues, unabated.
    argonautwetlanderpscooter63
  • Reply 56 of 131
    volcanvolcan Posts: 1,799member
    jfc1138 said:

    The wall would end at the beach right? so they'd boat around it.
    That would be a single point which is where human enforcers would patrol including the Coast Guard. Much more likely that they would boat across the river at any point along the 1900 mile long border that is mostly unprotected. I still see the Rio Grande as an unresolvable issue with respect to building an effective wall which is why I think Trump is just blowing smoke or else he is completely delusional. Aside from the logical identity enforcement for employment, there is only one other workable solution and that is simply more people with better technology protecting the border.
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 57 of 131
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    volcan said:
    jfc1138 said:

    The wall would end at the beach right? so they'd boat around it.
    That would be a single point which is where human enforcers would patrol including the Coast Guard. Much more likely that they would boat across the river at any point along the 1900 mile long border that is mostly unprotected. I still see the Rio Grande as an unresolvable issue with respect to building an effective wall which is why I think Trump is just blowing smoke or else he is completely delusional. Aside from the logical identity enforcement for employment, there is only one other workable solution and that is simply more people with better technology protecting the border.

    “Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.”

  • Reply 58 of 131
    ireland said:
    Fuck that clown.
    and 8 others.
    I don't know what this "and n others" bit is that AI tacks onto posts, but in the case of the politicians up for nomination in the U.S.these days, yeah, I think "8 others" fits at the very least.
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 59 of 131
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    ireland said:
    Fuck that clown.
    and 8 others.
    I don't know what this "and n others" bit is that AI tacks onto posts, but in the case of the politicians up for nomination in the U.S.these days, yeah, I think "8 others" fits at the very least.
    The forum is still messed up, and all of the bugs haven't been ironed out and fixed yet.

    "and x others" has to do with the amount of likes/dislikes that the post has gotten.

    The forum is definitely messed up, because posters can not even see their own likes/dislikes on their own posts that they have gotten.
    VisualSeedsingularitypscooter63
  • Reply 60 of 131
    toddzrxtoddzrx Posts: 254member
    volcan said:
    sdw2001 said:

    Banning Muslims may or may not be the rihgt policy, but there is no question the President has the authority to do it.  Killing terrorists' family members really depends on the exact circumstances, but unless he means straight-up murdering them, it's not "radical."  
    I'm not so sure he has the authority to ban Muslims.
    Yes, the president does.  Go do your homework, then try commenting.
    SpamSandwichtallest skil
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