That's one hell of a lot of border guards..... even for the general coastline at 12,363 miles.... Trumps heard of boats right? Fool
Fortunately we have something called the Coast Guard, which is important enough to be one of the branches of our military. A military that, if you’ll remember, will be coming home to guard America herself if Trump gets his way.
Sink a few boats and they’ll get the message. We don’t want them.
And that's caused the price of drugs to get cheaper and cheaper since the oceans aren't any barrier at all. oh and the Coast Guard? Out there to save lives not take them and beyond that have you checked their inventory? Just how do you propose they seal off 12 or 80 plus thousand mikes of Coast? Plus migrant ships sink daily in the Med and it doesn't slow the flow in any discernible way.
fallenjt said: You forgot that they dig tunnels through the border too.
Walls need foundations. It will be built and they will all be deported. The country can’t survive otherwise. Oh, they’ll pay for it, all right. People are just lazy when it comes to the definition of ‘pay’.
None of this is going to happen because Trumpo isn't going to win. Period.
Berlin wall = keep people and citizens locked in, because commie paradises are so wonderful, that people must be forced to live in them, with little chance of escape.
Trump wall = keep illegal intruders and criminals out, protecting the citizens of your own nation
And the Berlin wall was actually extremely effective, for many decades. A few people here and there managed to get across, but many more probably died trying and the wall did work.
A wall has never worked to solve any longstanding problem in the entire history of the planet. Period.
Maybe not 100% solution, but it sure would help to mitigate these problems in a big way, while long-term solutions are developed.
Even a 1% solution is better than none; wall is more than that b
jungmark said: I'm voting for myself if Trump is the nominee.
I'm with you. All the candidates are awful. I encourage everyone to write in their own name on their ballot this time. The founding fathers were pretty smart about how they planned for a situation like this when they created the electoral college. If the masses lose their mind, which I believe they have, we still have rational, intelligent, thoughtful people who can make the right decision. It is just so disappointing that we as Americans have somehow ended up with only terrible candidates.
A wall has never worked to solve any longstanding problem in the entire history of the planet. Period.
Maybe not 100% solution, but it sure would help to mitigate these problems in a big way, while long-term solutions are developed.
Even a 1% solution is better than none; wall is more than that b
False equivalency again again making it a false dichotomy again.
There are already solutions in place, that's why the net influx is ZERO right now.
Also, If this cost 100B to implement over 10 year (construct and man) (look up cost for the much much shorter Israeli wall) and 5B a year more to man each year and it's 1% efficient, tha'ts a ridiculously shitty solution. Even the fully militarized Israeli border has hundreds of tunnels, some nearly 1km long.
1% efficient to stop a ZERO net influx is a very bad use of money.
You really think that the US can't do something better for that kind of money? Are you for real? Trump voters are beyond help.
It's sad that so many are continuously fooled by the establishment controlled media & press. All of the candidates are on establishment payroll. How else can someone raise millions to run a campaign? If any establishment candidates win they have to obliged to their donors 1st not the voters.
Both the dems and GOP are the same party, one for the establishment. None of these candidates will take care of voters. They will all lie to get votes and Obama has already demonstrated that. He pride himself anti-lobbyist and look how his presidency has turned out to be.
So think again when you vote for Cruz, Rubio, Hillary, and even Sanders. If you love getting screwed by the elite, keep voting for what the media whats you to believe.
It's sad that so many are continuously fooled by the establishment controlled media & press. All of the candidates are on establishment payroll. How else can someone raise millions to run a campaign? If any establishment candidates win they have to obliged to their donors 1st not the voters.
Both the dems and GOP are the same party, one for the establishment. None of these candidates will take care of voters. They will all lie to get votes and Obama has already demonstrated that. He pride himself anti-lobbyist and look how his presidency has turned out to be.
So think again when you vote for Cruz, Rubio, Hillary, and even Sanders. If you love getting screwed by the elite, keep voting for what the media whats you to believe.
Right... They're all the same trope.... the same false equivalence.
Even if they were all "bad", some are horrific (Trump and Cruz), same are just absolutely terrible on some aspects while decent on others Sanders (a 1960s, before we knew communism the latin American type
socialism was a total failure throwback), while others are just more slightly palatable version of what's been going on for 40 years (Throwback to the other Clinton era).
HRC is no picnic, but I think I can tell the
difference and certainly see which one will not make me puke on sight, AKA Trump.
My new favorite Trump quote, when Chuck Todd on Meet The Press pointed out to him that the video he used to smear and connect the protester to ISIS had been a hoax. "All I know is what's on the internet".
There's your man.
New Yorkers have had to listen to his absurd tall tales for ages. Everything out of his mouth since 1990 has been based on some bizarre fantasy that no one cares what the facts are. We're amused that his supporters believe in his "success" stories, because he actually has very few to his name and a long list of very expensive failures, most notable for his trail of quotes making up nonsense about what just happened. He hasn't personally led a major negotiation in decades, and he doesn't have the smarts to argue for another sugar from the waitress much less to negotiate with world leaders who rightfully have no respect for him.
His unsuitability for Presidency has nothing to do with his views, which aren't even subjects he has an opinion or cares about. And setting aside his outright dishonesty, which far outclasses any other candidate in our history, don't kid yourself. It's simply that he's not a bright guy. Nowhere near the intelligence needed for the job.
And that's caused the price of drugs to get cheaper and cheaper since the oceans aren't any barrier at all.
Eh?
the Coast Guard? Out there to save lives not take them
Fine. They’ll run humanitarian efforts for the idiots trying to come here by shipping them back to their home countries along with the bill for services rendered.
and beyond that have you checked their inventory? Just how do you propose they seal off 12 or 80 plus thousand mikes of Coast?
Again, the Navy is coming home. She’ll take care of it.
Plus migrant ships sink daily in the Med and it doesn't slow the flow in any discernible way.
I'm not so sure he has the authority to ban Muslims. That would likely have to be tested in the Supreme Court as it is discrimination of religion. As far as straight up murdering family members, I think that is exactly what he was implying because he used the rationale that the family members knew what was going on and they didn't do anything or turn them in.
The president can bar people who are not American citizens from entry into the US in the interest of national security. Non-citizens do not have the protected constitutional rights that are available to Americans.
Oh, so wrong. The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says: "...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
You know I think we have descended to the 1960s as in Trump's tag line of Make America great again. What does that mean? Back to racial discrimination, the Cold War, the depression, World War II. What exactually is the period in US history do you want to return to? I have no dog in this race since I have investments, property, annuities, stocks, international healthcare, a couple businesses, property in other countries, the eventual expectation of social security and Medicare, but I'm going to go out on limb and suggest that Trump will be assinated even before he becomes the GOP candidate in the general election.
It means "Make America White Again". Anyone thinking otherwise needs therapy.
farmboy said: The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says: "...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Hey. Guess what? THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO FOREIGNERS.
farmboy said: The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says: "...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Hey. Guess what? THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO FOREIGNERS.
Whether or not Muslims can be blocked from coming to the US probably depends on the circumstances. For example, if they started arriving on our shores and were seeking religious and political asylum like they are in Greece, then they would be considered under US jurisdiction and should have equal protection. If they are applying for a US visa in their home country or refugees intercepted at sea then supposedly anyone could be barred from entry. Once they make it here on their own it becomes a lot more complicated. Sort of like how we try to deport Mexicans who sneak in as financial refugees but often we decide not to deport Cubans who are fleeing political oppression. Anyway, even if Trump is elected president, I doubt he will make good on a total and complete shut down of all Muslims as he promises, but I agree, our immigration policies should be much stricter.
Nothing is worse than hypocrites like Trump.
He will sign a peace treaty with a county one week, and then declare war on them next week,
just like Hitler did with Chamberlain.
Nothing is worse than hypocrites like Trump.
He will sign a peace treaty with a county one week, and then declare war on them next week,
just like Hitler did with Chamberlain.
farmboy said: The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says: "...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Hey. Guess what? THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO FOREIGNERS.
The Consitution doesn't apply to foreigners. It doesn't apply to citizens either, it applies to the U.S. government. And the text of the Constitution by and large instructs the government on the limitations placed upon it in how it treats people. Not citizens. People. Specifically with the 5th and 14th amendments: http://classroom.synonym.com/constitution-protect-foreigners-21785.html
So you're wrong. Not in the exact wording, because by happenstance you miswrote what you meant and stated something true, but you are wrong in what you mean. Because foreigners are people. Definitionally.
And the text of the Constitution by and large instructs the government on the limitations placed upon it in how it treats people. Not citizens. People.
People who are citizens.
So you’re wrong.
I’m 100% correct.
Not in the exact wording, because by happenstance you miswrote what you meant and stated something true
Nope. Stated something true on purpose. Doesn’t apply to foreigners.
you are wrong in what you mean.
Nope. Doesn’t apply to foreigners. Try to enforce it somewhere that isn’t the US. See what happens. This is pretty simple shit. Your lack of a constitution doesn’t apply to us. North Korea’s laws don’t apply to the French.
Don’t bother replying. You’re just off on an emotional tirade, dragging up old threads because you’re furious that your worldview is objectively wrong.
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And that's caused the price of drugs to get cheaper and cheaper since the oceans aren't any barrier at all. oh and the Coast Guard? Out there to save lives not take them and beyond that have you checked their inventory? Just how do you propose they seal off 12 or 80 plus thousand mikes of Coast? Plus migrant ships sink daily in the Med and it doesn't slow the flow in any discernible way.
None of this is going to happen because Trumpo isn't going to win. Period.
Even a 1% solution is better than none; wall is more than that b
There are already solutions in place, that's why the net influx is ZERO right now.
Also,
If this cost 100B to implement over 10 year (construct and man) (look up cost for the much much shorter Israeli wall) and 5B a year more to man each year and it's 1% efficient, tha'ts a ridiculously shitty solution. Even the fully militarized Israeli border has hundreds of tunnels, some nearly 1km long.
1% efficient to stop a ZERO net influx is a very bad use of money.
You really think that the US can't do something better for that kind of money? Are you for real?
Trump voters are beyond help.
Both the dems and GOP are the same party, one for the establishment. None of these candidates will take care of voters. They will all lie to get votes and Obama has already demonstrated that. He pride himself anti-lobbyist and look how his presidency has turned out to be.
So think again when you vote for Cruz, Rubio, Hillary, and even Sanders. If you love getting screwed by the elite, keep voting for what the media whats you to believe.
Even if they were all "bad", some are horrific (Trump and Cruz), same are just absolutely terrible on some aspects while decent on others Sanders (a 1960s, before we knew communism the latin American type socialism was a total failure throwback), while others are just more slightly palatable version of what's been going on for 40 years (Throwback to the other Clinton era).
HRC is no picnic, but I think I can tell the difference and certainly see which one will not make me puke on sight, AKA Trump.
There's your man.
New Yorkers have had to listen to his absurd tall tales for ages. Everything out of his mouth since 1990 has been based on some bizarre fantasy that no one cares what the facts are. We're amused that his supporters believe in his "success" stories, because he actually has very few to his name and a long list of very expensive failures, most notable for his trail of quotes making up nonsense about what just happened. He hasn't personally led a major negotiation in decades, and he doesn't have the smarts to argue for another sugar from the waitress much less to negotiate with world leaders who rightfully have no respect for him.
His unsuitability for Presidency has nothing to do with his views, which aren't even subjects he has an opinion or cares about. And setting aside his outright dishonesty, which far outclasses any other candidate in our history, don't kid yourself. It's simply that he's not a bright guy. Nowhere near the intelligence needed for the job.
Fine. They’ll run humanitarian efforts for the idiots trying to come here by shipping them back to their home countries along with the bill for services rendered.
Again, the Navy is coming home. She’ll take care of it.
They sink, yes. They’re not sunk.
It means "Make America White Again". Anyone thinking otherwise needs therapy.
Hey. Guess what? THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO FOREIGNERS.
So you're wrong. Not in the exact wording, because by happenstance you miswrote what you meant and stated something true, but you are wrong in what you mean. Because foreigners are people. Definitionally.
People who are citizens.
I’m 100% correct.
Nope. Stated something true on purpose. Doesn’t apply to foreigners.
Nope. Doesn’t apply to foreigners. Try to enforce it somewhere that isn’t the US. See what happens. This is pretty simple shit. Your lack of a constitution doesn’t apply to us. North Korea’s laws don’t apply to the French.
Don’t bother replying. You’re just off on an emotional tirade, dragging up old threads because you’re furious that your worldview is objectively wrong.