Wuahahaha, singular. Ahhh, from Italy, from Ireland, from England, from Germany, from France. OK, singular. Wuahaha. Sorry, your roots are from Europe my friend. YES, Singular EUROPE. Your are right. Europe, not Germany, not Italy, not france. EUROPE! Right. That is your root. It comes from US in the EU.
Do you have anything but insane ramblings? The United States is not a “nation of immigrants”, no matter how many times that shit is stated. The two situations are absolutely nothing alike.
This was an emotional response to outright lies and distortions of a few, lies and distortions that are now coming to light.
You mean the lies and distortions regarding the new poll which is COMPLETELY FULL OF NON-BRITONS?
spice-boy said: Trump will fall apart with the first Clinton debate. His lack of knowledge regarding how government works, how our economy works, foreign affairs etc... will become painfully obvious to even his strongest supporters.
Here’s the thing: no one gives a shit how the globalist system works beyond getting rid of it and never doing it again. Your rhetoric will stop nothing.
Trump will fall apart with the first Clinton debate. His lack of knowledge regarding how government works, how our economy works, foreign affairs etc... will become painfully obvious to even his strongest supporters. Hurling insults at Clinton instead of giving informed answered will show the school yard bully he really is. I don't blame the people supporting him for their anger and frustration but buying into his hate speech is below all of them.
Just like virtually everybody has been wrong about him since the beginning, I think that you're completely wrong about your debate prediction.
My track record on Trump has been stellar so far, since the very beginning, and I predict that he's just going to tear her to shreds. There are so many skeletons in her closet to talk about. It'll be like debating Benedict Arnold. It's going to be a smackdown of epic proportions. She is through and through corrupt, funded by many of the worst regimes and countries in the world. She is a true globalist and she has been selling out the American people for most of her career.
I hope the Euro keeps becoming devalued and the EU folks see how much their pro-regulation policies end up actually costing them. It would be just dessert for guys like singularity and schneiderlander on here.
To actually exit the EU Parliament must enact legislation that triggers Article 50 of the EU Constitution.
The leaders in the EU are steaming mad, and they are already demanding that Britain exit as quickly as possible.
Foreign ministers' first reaction was like that, a very disruptive, if not necessarily hostile, but very uncooperative attitude. Fortunately Merkel has talked with a more natural tone and lowered the tension: "No need to be nasty"...
The leaders in the EU are steaming mad, and they are already demanding that Britain exit as quickly as possible.
Foreign ministers' first reaction was like that, a very disruptive, if not necessarily hostile, but very uncooperative attitude. Fortunately Merkel talked with a more natural tone and lowered the tension: "No need to be nasty"...
I'm not surprised that the first reaction was very hostile.
I've seen a few of those speeches before in the EU parliament, and they are truly a disgusting bunch of corrupt people, sitting there with their stupid smirks and grins on their faces, while getting their asses handed to them by Nigel Farage, a true British hero!
A widely ridiculed single-issue fool and political lightweight who couldn't even get voted in as an MP, and only got any attention in this cycle because the Tory government remain supporters didn't want to get bogged down in intra-party fighting so needed an outsider to argue with. Tory party squabblings are largely responsible for this mess. If anything good is going to come from this it will be the split of that wretched overly privileged boys club.
Even the witch would be ashamed of the reckless and thoroughly deceitful (on all sides) behaviours of her party in the run up to this referendum.
Speak for yourself! Please don't label all Brits as being in your camp because we're not. I disagree with you that this move is not "I'll-considered". I don't think anyone, let alone any pro-Brexit voters really know what the hell is about to hit us after this decision. After listening to many opinions of people who voted to leave - they are ill-informed. There has been a dirty campaign (on both sides I might add) which has been deliberately liberal with the truth, spreading misinformation about immigration figures and EU membership costs vs saving once we leave. Many voters have also been swayed by the xenophobic immigrant-hating gutter press and the weak pro-remain campaign hasn't helped. Remember, the decision has effectively been made by just 2% of the electorate - that's how close it was. That means almost half of the U.K. wish to remain.
The Pro-Brexit camp are playing fast and lose with our economy. So far it's looking pretty bad and I fear for the future - especially for young people who were far more pro-remain than the older population.
And if Trump gets in then the world really has gone mad!
Honestly? There will be some short term pain but things will stabilize pretty quickly. It's in both parties (meaning the UK and the EU) interests to keep things relatively calm.
How will things calm down after all the leave voters realize they were lied to and none of the promises are met. The Leave leaders have already said the NHS funding was a lie, the only way they'll get full trade access to European markets is if they accept free movement and follow EU regulations, and it'll be a lot harder to control immigration when instead of the Channel seperating the UK, it'll be the unsecurable border in Ireland, plus Scotland will likely vote for independence to stay in the EU creating another land border, half the leave voters were Labour members who did it to spite Cameron and instead now handed the country to the even further right wingers.
The Leave campaign won by telling people the EU was the source of all their ills, whatever they were. What will be the new scapegoat when nothing has changed?
Greenland left, but maintains "special trade status" with EU. Maybe the UK will have a similar agreement in place so that the economic impact will be minimal? I really know very little about this stuff.
Here's another perspective, from one of the great people of the last century, to contrast with the pettiness of our current condition.
"From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of any particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
"The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity – in all this vastness – there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
"The Earth is the only world known, so far, to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment, the Earth is where we make our stand. It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."
Wuahahaha, singular. Ahhh, from Italy, from Ireland, from England, from Germany, from France. OK, singular. Wuahaha. Sorry, your roots are from Europe my friend. YES, Singular EUROPE. Your are right. Europe, not Germany, not Italy, not france. EUROPE! Right. That is your root. It comes from US in the EU.
Do you have anything but insane ramblings? The United States is not a “nation of immigrants”, no matter how many times that shit is stated. The two situations are absolutely nothing alike.
You mean the lies and distortions regarding the new poll which is COMPLETELY FULL OF NON-BRITONS?
I think the JSON file is only updated intermittently. If you added up the signature count from all nations from the file in the screenshot it'd come in at much lower than 1.1m votes, as should really be evident from the numbers (seriously, add up the other countries number, and assume that every other nation on earth voted 509 times... you do the math, it's far short of 1.1m - the UK's 0.35m).
Also, besides that consideration, there is clearly some miscalculations behind your screenshot, as it shows one territory in the left-side JSON that has 3816 votes, but doesn't show that territory in the table on the right. Hardly a convincing infographic then if they can't get basic presentation right.
PS. I haven't signed the petition and don't support it. No backsies.
PPS. One of the few things the current Tory government have got right is transparency. http://www.data.gov.uk and all of the information it supports is a marvel.
The top 17 (weird number, but alright) listed territories excluding the UK account for 35,388 votes. That's less than 10% of the 363,988 UK vote (and it includes 2,489 Gibraltar votes, which are a UK territory, and its citizens are totally eligible to vote; possibly other UK territories are in there too).
Added together, the UK and the listed territories equal 389,376 votes, out of the total 1,170,643 votes, which is less than a third. So the remaining territories, each with a maximum of 509 votes, would need to account for the remaining two thirds, or 781,267 votes.
I don't know how exactly the UK petitions website defines its territories, but even at their maximum voting capacity, that would require there to be 1538 territories in the game (EDIT: The JSON file says there's 211). So that's clearly not true.
Your "proof" of lies and distortions, is evidently just a case of data being out of date. Calm down (and be careful of making errant claims when there are statisticians around).
Globalists are traitors to every nation. – Tallest Skil, a few seconds ago
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Perhaps it's appropriate to be a traitor to all nations. The nations currently in existence are merely inherited constructs. Should we, as thinking beings, constrain ourselves by the status quo? Be careful answering that question, as an affirmative would imply you favored UK to remain with the EU, which was Thursday's status quo, after all. But if we are to rethink things, perhaps we should rethink the whole thing. I'm confident that would lead to some revealing insights. Let's begin from Sagan's Pale Blue Dot perspective and drill down from there, shall we? Just to ensure we remain above the pettiness and biases that have so thoroughly infested our thinking.
The nations currently in existence are merely inherited constructs.
So would globalist bullshit be after the first generation, meaning we should tear it down "because it's old."
Let's begin from Sagan's Pale Blue Dot perspective and drill down from there, shall we?
No, I'm not going to begin from the standpoint of delusional nonsense that disregards genetics and millennia of historical fact. I'm going to begin from the standpoint of genetics and human psychology and build a society predicated on the preservation of diversity, security of the in-group, and promotion of reproduction and healthy social behaviors to facilitate the growth thereof.
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You mean the lies and distortions regarding the new poll which is COMPLETELY FULL OF NON-BRITONS?
Here’s the thing: no one gives a shit how the globalist system works beyond getting rid of it and never doing it again. Your rhetoric will stop nothing.
Does not exist.
My track record on Trump has been stellar so far, since the very beginning, and I predict that he's just going to tear her to shreds. There are so many skeletons in her closet to talk about. It'll be like debating Benedict Arnold. It's going to be a smackdown of epic proportions. She is through and through corrupt, funded by many of the worst regimes and countries in the world. She is a true globalist and she has been selling out the American people for most of her career.
I've seen a few of those speeches before in the EU parliament, and they are truly a disgusting bunch of corrupt people, sitting there with their stupid smirks and grins on their faces, while getting their asses handed to them by Nigel Farage, a true British hero!
Even the witch would be ashamed of the reckless and thoroughly deceitful (on all sides) behaviours of her party in the run up to this referendum.
The Leave campaign won by telling people the EU was the source of all their ills, whatever they were. What will be the new scapegoat when nothing has changed?
Humor is the only way out in some cases (I forget that sometimes).
Thanks so much.
Globalists are traitors to every nation.
– Tallest Skil, a few seconds ago
It now stands that the petition has been signed 2.6m times (https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215), and the JSON file reads that >2.4 m of those are from the UK (https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json)
Also, besides that consideration, there is clearly some miscalculations behind your screenshot, as it shows one territory in the left-side JSON that has 3816 votes, but doesn't show that territory in the table on the right. Hardly a convincing infographic then if they can't get basic presentation right.
PS. I haven't signed the petition and don't support it. No backsies.
PPS. One of the few things the current Tory government have got right is transparency. http://www.data.gov.uk and all of the information it supports is a marvel.
The top 17 (weird number, but alright) listed territories excluding the UK account for 35,388 votes. That's less than 10% of the 363,988 UK vote (and it includes 2,489 Gibraltar votes, which are a UK territory, and its citizens are totally eligible to vote; possibly other UK territories are in there too).
Added together, the UK and the listed territories equal 389,376 votes, out of the total 1,170,643 votes, which is less than a third. So the remaining territories, each with a maximum of 509 votes, would need to account for the remaining two thirds, or 781,267 votes.
I don't know how exactly the UK petitions website defines its territories, but even at their maximum voting capacity, that would require there to be 1538 territories in the game (EDIT: The JSON file says there's 211). So that's clearly not true.
Your "proof" of lies and distortions, is evidently just a case of data being out of date. Calm down (and be careful of making errant claims when there are statisticians around).
Globalists are traitors to every nation.
– Tallest Skil, a few seconds ago
-------------
Perhaps it's appropriate to be a traitor to all nations. The nations currently in existence are merely inherited constructs. Should we, as thinking beings, constrain ourselves by the status quo? Be careful answering that question, as an affirmative would imply you favored UK to remain with the EU, which was Thursday's status quo, after all. But if we are to rethink things, perhaps we should rethink the whole thing. I'm confident that would lead to some revealing insights. Let's begin from Sagan's Pale Blue Dot perspective and drill down from there, shall we? Just to ensure we remain above the pettiness and biases that have so thoroughly infested our thinking.
No, I'm not going to begin from the standpoint of delusional nonsense that disregards genetics and millennia of historical fact. I'm going to begin from the standpoint of genetics and human psychology and build a society predicated on the preservation of diversity, security of the in-group, and promotion of reproduction and healthy social behaviors to facilitate the growth thereof.
Oh, look. The nation state already fulfills that.