Apple asks Foxconn to move iPad, MacBook production from China to Vietnam

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  • Reply 141 of 146
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    crowley said:
    Tibet is free, don’t let any Trumpers tell you different.
    Hong Kong isn’t having any protests, don’t let any Trumpers tell you different.
    Nothing is happening in the South China Sea, don’t let any Trumpers tell you different.
    The Uyghur Human Right Project is a hoax by Trumpers.
    Amnesty and Human rights Watch have been fooled by the Trumpers and false testimony of hundreds of witnesses.

    Your wilful myopia towards China is an advanced and mutated Trump Derangement Syndrome the likes of which I’ve not come across before.  You need to cut the man out of your life before he ruins your health like he’s poisoned your mind.

    Since I never said any of that, you just made a fool of yourself.
    But, that's what those with weak arguments -- especially Trumpers -- do:   Invent stuff.
  • Reply 142 of 146
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    gatorguy said:
    I don't know if @GeorgeBMac reads Mandarin but this is the original document detailing the Uyghur Internment Camps "re-education program". It would be hard for him to argue it was faked. 
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6558509-China-Cables-Telegram-Chinese.html

    For those who don't read Chinese this is the English-translation.  George wouldn't trust that Trump didn't translate it.
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6558510-China-Cables-Telegram-English.html

    and finally a letter signed by dozens of not-US diplomats asking the International Criminal Court for a full review of the evidence against China and the increasingly likely Uyghur genocide efforts they are undertaking.
    https://ipac.global/ipac-calls-on-international-criminal-court-to-accept-case-investigating-suspected-genocide-against-uyghur-muslims/

    It would be impossible for him to deny that the preponderance of evidence finds against China's claims


    It wasn't China who turned education programs into concentration camps -- it was Trumpers like you.
  • Reply 143 of 146
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    gatorguy said:
    I don't know if @GeorgeBMac reads Mandarin but this is the original document detailing the Uyghur Internment Camps "re-education program". It would be hard for him to argue it was faked. 
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6558509-China-Cables-Telegram-Chinese.html

    For those who don't read Chinese this is the English-translation.  George wouldn't trust that Trump didn't translate it.
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6558510-China-Cables-Telegram-English.html

    This data leak in China is the first time in my memory that any such thing has occurred. I think the cracks are finally showing in the PRC Great Wall of Disinformation.

    You mean China is copying the disinformation campaigns of Vladimir and DaffyDon?    Gasp!
  • Reply 144 of 146
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    gatorguy said:
    I don't know if @GeorgeBMac reads Mandarin but this is the original document detailing the Uyghur Internment Camps "re-education program". It would be hard for him to argue it was faked. 
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6558509-China-Cables-Telegram-Chinese.html

    For those who don't read Chinese this is the English-translation.  George wouldn't trust that Trump didn't translate it.
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6558510-China-Cables-Telegram-English.html

    and finally a letter signed by dozens of not-US diplomats asking the International Criminal Court for a full review of the evidence against China and the increasingly likely Uyghur genocide efforts they are undertaking.
    https://ipac.global/ipac-calls-on-international-criminal-court-to-accept-case-investigating-suspected-genocide-against-uyghur-muslims/

    It would be impossible for him to deny that the preponderance of evidence finds against China's claims


    It wasn't China who turned education programs into concentration camps -- it was Trumpers like you.
    I didn't call them concentration camps. That's your words. Of course you don't know what something says when you don't even read it George.

    You have two good eyes and yet see nothing...

    edited December 2020 elijahgtmay
  • Reply 145 of 146
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    I don't know if @GeorgeBMac reads Mandarin but this is the original document detailing the Uyghur Internment Camps "re-education program". It would be hard for him to argue it was faked. 
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6558509-China-Cables-Telegram-Chinese.html

    For those who don't read Chinese this is the English-translation.  George wouldn't trust that Trump didn't translate it.
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6558510-China-Cables-Telegram-English.html

    and finally a letter signed by dozens of not-US diplomats asking the International Criminal Court for a full review of the evidence against China and the increasingly likely Uyghur genocide efforts they are undertaking.
    https://ipac.global/ipac-calls-on-international-criminal-court-to-accept-case-investigating-suspected-genocide-against-uyghur-muslims/

    It would be impossible for him to deny that the preponderance of evidence finds against China's claims


    It wasn't China who turned education programs into concentration camps -- it was Trumpers like you.
    I didn't call them concentration camps. That's your words. Of course you don't know what something says when you don't even read it George.

    You have two good eyes and yet see nothing...


    Sorry, I was generalizing.   I've heard them called that a fair number of times.   But not by you.   But that over the top hyperbole is one of the signs that this campaign has more to do with propaganda and political agendas than truth and reality -- particularly as even worse is being perpetrated in this country but ignored. 

    I don't doubt that there is something going on there -- even China says so:   Communists (even in Russia) have always had a deep suspicion of religion (any religion).  They know how it has been used throughout the ages to stir up trouble..   In this case, they see what is going on the Muslim world and how that religion is being hijacked by jihadists and other extremists and they are not going to let it happen in their country.   The part that we don't know is just how are they going about that?    Is it with kindness, respect and caring that they claim?  Or is it using concentration camps (or the equivalent) like many of the Trumpers claim (as well as  those who have jumped on that bandwagon)?

    In the absence of credible evidence to the contrary I see a country trying to protect itself while respecting the rights of citizens as best they are able.   And anecdotes, allegations and speculation charging malfeasance is not credible evidence -- particularly in the atmosphere of hate and animosity that Trump created.

    In the meantime, the haters are going to grasp onto any straw, no matter its credibility or authenticity, to spread their hate of China.  It seems to be their job.
    edited December 2020
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