I don't respect anybody and my church is super fab-magico. It has secret passages, smoke machines, lasers, dinosaurs, a dungeon, a pirate lagoon, three wax figures of dead presidents, and a giant rat we keep in an old egg crate. We once held service in a restaurant. We all met up there and filled every single table. Then in between bites of Vegan Tofu Bread Crumb Pizza Burgers we held our secret rites and rituals. When it came time to pay we presented them with one get out of hell free card for each waiter, waitress and cook and then left.
I don't respect anybody and my church is super fab-magico. It has secret passages, smoke machines, lasers, dinosaurs, a dungeon, a pirate lagoon, three wax figures of dead presidents, and a giant rat we keep in an old egg crate. We once held service in a restaurant. We all met up there and filled every single table. Then in between bites of Vegan Tofu Bread Crumb Pizza Burgers we held our secret rites and rituals. When it came time to pay we presented them with one get out of hell free card for each waiter, waitress and cook and then left.
by Not Unlike Myself
Hell yeah!!! I think I could be down with a church like that, but only if it also allowed goody goody Pop stars to be freaky High Priests. Like Hall & Oates in bermuda shorts and bow ties handling snakes while standing in a kiddie pool filled with pudding.
i am statistically catholic. only statistically. leave me alone and i leave you alone. i never go to the prost.. i mean protestant churches. and i really rarely go to even the catholic ones. i will eventually find some temples of my true internal harmony around here...
Ridiculous. If they can afford that kind of architecture there is no reason for them to be stealing funds from the government by claiming tax exempt status.
My church is called a "synagogue". It is a special kind of church for people called Jews. See, Christians are sort of Jews, but they believe also in this dude name Jesus. One could say, they are "Jews for Jesus."
Naw, seriously folks, I don't want to start nothing here
second of all, its hot but why not tan pants, nice colored tshirt, and for the love of god, u couldn't muster up some dress socks and shoes?
like i said it doesn't really matter but well i said my opinions before
why are you busting his balls on what he, or for that matter, anyone else wears to church? who gives a rats ass. as for you god types, my guess is that god doesn't give shit one way or another. he's probably way to busy with important stuff like figuring out who's naughty and nice then wasting his/her time enforcing the dress code at the door.
I don't go to church, but I'm with Fellowship on this: I never got hung up on the whole "dress code" thing (when I went as a youngster and early teens) and I would like to imagine that God is perhaps looking a bit beyond your clothing and hair-do.
I'm way more impressed by - and admire - those who live their lives by what they believe and exhibit it through their deeds, words and actions. If they're wearing shorts or have long hair or some funky 'do, what do I care? I know far too many people who simply "play the part", thinking that putting on a tie or a nice dress and sitting in a pew for an hour on Sunday morning somehow erases or undoes all the low-grade, shady behavior they spent the previous six days engaging in.
I don't dig on that hypocrisy at all. And I've never respected that sort of thing in a person.
When I was 14 or so, I went to this church with a friend of mine for an entire summer. It had a real "that rock and roll is the Devil's music!" and "you better cut that hair, young man!" kinda vibe to it. I hated it IMMEDIATELY.
But I came to find out over the years (was still in contact with my buddy throughout high school) that several prominent members (those doing the loudest screaming and carrying on, of course) were stepping out on their wives, had shady business or tax situations and had a fondness for the drink.
I guess my righteous mid-80's mullet and Telecaster ownership wasn't THAT bad after all?
I don't go to church, but I'm with Fellowship on this: I never got hung up on the whole "dress code" thing (when I went as a youngster and early teens) and I would like to imagine that God is perhaps looking a bit beyond your clothing and hair-do.
I'm way more impressed by - and admire - those who live their lives by what they believe and exhibit it through their deeds, words and actions. If they're wearing shorts or have long hair or some funky 'do, what do I care? I know far too many people who simply "play the part", thinking that putting on a tie or a nice dress and sitting in a pew for an hour or Sunday morning somehow erases or undoes all the low-grade, shady behavior they spent the previous six days engaging in.
I don't dig on that hypocrisy at all. And I've never respected that sort of thing in a person.
When I was 14 or so, I went to this church with a friend of mine for an entire summer. It had a real "that rock and roll is the Devil's music!" and "you better cut that hair, young man!" kinda vibe to it. I hated it IMMEDIATELY.
But I came to find out over the years (was still in contact with my buddy throughout high school) that several prominent members (those doing the loudest screaming and carrying on, of course) were stepping out on their wives, had shady business or tax situations and had a fondness for the drink.
I guess my righteous mid-80's mullet and Telecaster ownership wasn't THAT bad after all?
I agree all the way man!
Fellowship Church even has motorcycle riders fellowship that meets to give food and clothes to needy children. I don't care if you have a tatoo or what ever.... I could care less as could Jesus.
Too many people in Church get all frustrated over the small stuff and lose sight of the bigger picture. We should love one another no matter our looks or past. Church should not be a country club with social click to it. Church should invite all to come in.
would you dress up to a job interview at a big business?
i assume yes, why? perhaps out of respect?
well i BET you that god does not care what you wear, but why not wear your best OUT of respect? best does not mean suit and tie, but if you can clean urself up slightly and perhaps not wear rags, don't you think you should?
See this is why I think why Christianity is dieing in the Western world, cuz so many so called Christians are so hung up on the superficial, the outer dressing of the faith (the type of music, what people are wearing, etc...) Non-Christians see this and think, man what a f***ing joke. This is why Islam is growing so hard core, it deals with things that are more real, sure a good number of Islamicists are armed paramilitary groups hell-bent on bombing US interests, but at least their faith is focused on something more substantial than what Jane Doe wore to church. This is ridiculous, this part of the reason I feel so uncomfortable with others of my own faith.
would you dress up to a job interview at a big business?
i assume yes, why? perhaps out of respect?
well i BET you that god does not care what you wear, but why not wear your best OUT of respect? best does not mean suit and tie, but if you can clean urself up slightly and perhaps not wear rags, don't you think you should?
I understand your point and respect it. I would only submit I have never worn rags to church but I did see a very poor family at Fellowship one time and I do not think God saw them as being disrespectful to him.
I think people should get over the same old forever old issues that some people choose to get all bent over and be glad in the day the lord hath made. Be glad for those who come to church no matter how they dress. Be glad for each day you can be free and serve others.
I understand your point and respect it. I would only submit I have never worn rags to church but I did see a very poor family at Fellowship one time and I do not think God saw them as being disrespectful to him.
I think people should get over the same old forever old issues that some people choose to get all bent over and be glad in the day the lord hath made. Be glad for those who come to church no matter how they dress. Be glad for each day you can be free and serve others.
Fellowship
i understand your point and respect it also, i have just grown up with that so feel that if you can look a little nicer its more respectful to do
but you are absolutly right, i dont think it REALLY matters, i 100% believe god doesn't look poorly upon if u come dressed in a washcloth, but i think its more respectful if u wear some of ur nicest (just personal feeling, deep rooted, not sure why)
See this is why I think why Christianity is dieing in the Western world, cuz so many so called Christians are so hung up on the superficial, the outer dressing of the faith (the type of music, what people are wearing, etc...) Non-Christians see this and think, man what a f***ing joke. This is why Islam is growing so hard core, it deals with things that are more real, sure a good number of Islamicists are armed paramilitary groups hell-bent on bombing US interests, but at least their faith is focused on something more substantial than what Jane Doe wore to church. This is ridiculous, this part of the reason I feel so uncomfortable with others of my own faith.
I am a Christian and I sort of agree with what you are saying. I do agree 100% that in Christian circles where what you mention above is all they concern themselves with they are indeed becoming a dead bunch. I would say in Churches where the message is the message of God and things like clothes and style of music are not the items for judgement that in such Churches be it Fellowship Church or Hillsong or others they are growing by the thousands and keep having to knock the walls out farther and farther.
I think people should get over their self-rightious judging of how others look or choose to worship.
i understand your point and respect it also, i have just grown up with that so feel that if you can look a little nicer its more respectful to do
but you are absolutly right, i dont think it REALLY matters, i 100% believe god doesn't look poorly upon if u come dressed in a washcloth, but i think its more respectful if u wear some of ur nicest (just personal feeling, deep rooted, not sure why)
I understand what you are saying completely. I respect that as well.
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I don't respect anybody and my church is super fab-magico. It has secret passages, smoke machines, lasers, dinosaurs, a dungeon, a pirate lagoon, three wax figures of dead presidents, and a giant rat we keep in an old egg crate. We once held service in a restaurant. We all met up there and filled every single table. Then in between bites of Vegan Tofu Bread Crumb Pizza Burgers we held our secret rites and rituals. When it came time to pay we presented them with one get out of hell free card for each waiter, waitress and cook and then left.
by Not Unlike Myself
Hell yeah!!! I think I could be down with a church like that, but only if it also allowed goody goody Pop stars to be freaky High Priests. Like Hall & Oates in bermuda shorts and bow ties handling snakes while standing in a kiddie pool filled with pudding.
Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook
If you have a PC you can watch the service at FC
FellowshipChurch.com
Fellowship
Nice expensive church. Glad to see tax exempt dollars being put to good use. Of course, that pales in comparison to this modern day travesty:
http://math.ucsd.edu/~lyu/photography/Image84.jpg
Ridiculous. If they can afford that kind of architecture there is no reason for them to be stealing funds from the government by claiming tax exempt status.
Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook
If you have a PC you can watch the service at FC
FellowshipChurch.com
Also for the issue of dress at Church this is how I went today. Picture taken just mins ago.
Keep in mind it gets nice and hot here in Dallas.
Fellowship
first i'm just wondering, are you a father?
second of all, its hot but why not tan pants, nice colored tshirt, and for the love of god, u couldn't muster up some dress socks and shoes?
like i said it doesn't really matter but well i said my opinions before
Love Bach & Mozart. Still go to church at times, but I have outgrown the olde rituals..even though they are comforting...
I am a reader & believer of the URANTIA book so I get my spiritual life through that & through daily walking prayers & moments of meditation..
It does not replace the bible, but adds great depth & meaning to my spiritual life...
It is not an exageration to say it has had a profound effect on my way of living & seeing the universe.
http://www.urantia.org
http://www.truthbook.org
Naw, seriously folks, I don't want to start nothing here
Originally posted by ast3r3x
first i'm just wondering, are you a father?
second of all, its hot but why not tan pants, nice colored tshirt, and for the love of god, u couldn't muster up some dress socks and shoes?
like i said it doesn't really matter but well i said my opinions before
why are you busting his balls on what he, or for that matter, anyone else wears to church? who gives a rats ass. as for you god types, my guess is that god doesn't give shit one way or another. he's probably way to busy with important stuff like figuring out who's naughty and nice then wasting his/her time enforcing the dress code at the door.
I'm way more impressed by - and admire - those who live their lives by what they believe and exhibit it through their deeds, words and actions. If they're wearing shorts or have long hair or some funky 'do, what do I care? I know far too many people who simply "play the part", thinking that putting on a tie or a nice dress and sitting in a pew for an hour on Sunday morning somehow erases or undoes all the low-grade, shady behavior they spent the previous six days engaging in.
I don't dig on that hypocrisy at all. And I've never respected that sort of thing in a person.
When I was 14 or so, I went to this church with a friend of mine for an entire summer. It had a real "that rock and roll is the Devil's music!" and "you better cut that hair, young man!" kinda vibe to it. I hated it IMMEDIATELY.
But I came to find out over the years (was still in contact with my buddy throughout high school) that several prominent members (those doing the loudest screaming and carrying on, of course) were stepping out on their wives, had shady business or tax situations and had a fondness for the drink.
I guess my righteous mid-80's mullet and Telecaster ownership wasn't THAT bad after all?
Originally posted by pscates
I don't go to church, but I'm with Fellowship on this: I never got hung up on the whole "dress code" thing (when I went as a youngster and early teens) and I would like to imagine that God is perhaps looking a bit beyond your clothing and hair-do.
I'm way more impressed by - and admire - those who live their lives by what they believe and exhibit it through their deeds, words and actions. If they're wearing shorts or have long hair or some funky 'do, what do I care? I know far too many people who simply "play the part", thinking that putting on a tie or a nice dress and sitting in a pew for an hour or Sunday morning somehow erases or undoes all the low-grade, shady behavior they spent the previous six days engaging in.
I don't dig on that hypocrisy at all. And I've never respected that sort of thing in a person.
When I was 14 or so, I went to this church with a friend of mine for an entire summer. It had a real "that rock and roll is the Devil's music!" and "you better cut that hair, young man!" kinda vibe to it. I hated it IMMEDIATELY.
But I came to find out over the years (was still in contact with my buddy throughout high school) that several prominent members (those doing the loudest screaming and carrying on, of course) were stepping out on their wives, had shady business or tax situations and had a fondness for the drink.
I guess my righteous mid-80's mullet and Telecaster ownership wasn't THAT bad after all?
I agree all the way man!
Fellowship Church even has motorcycle riders fellowship that meets to give food and clothes to needy children. I don't care if you have a tatoo or what ever.... I could care less as could Jesus.
Too many people in Church get all frustrated over the small stuff and lose sight of the bigger picture. We should love one another no matter our looks or past. Church should not be a country club with social click to it. Church should invite all to come in.
Fellowship
i assume yes, why? perhaps out of respect?
well i BET you that god does not care what you wear, but why not wear your best OUT of respect? best does not mean suit and tie, but if you can clean urself up slightly and perhaps not wear rags, don't you think you should?
Originally posted by ast3r3x
first i'm just wondering, are you a father?
No I am not. I would love to be one day.
In the fall I dress with pants and nice shirt etc. Dress shoes and all.
In the summer many wear casual short cut clothes. I sort of roll with the flow at my Church.
Church should not be a place where people concern themselves with the question of if they look like they "fit" in or not.
Fellowship
Originally posted by ast3r3x
would you dress up to a job interview at a big business?
i assume yes, why? perhaps out of respect?
well i BET you that god does not care what you wear, but why not wear your best OUT of respect? best does not mean suit and tie, but if you can clean urself up slightly and perhaps not wear rags, don't you think you should?
I understand your point and respect it. I would only submit I have never worn rags to church but I did see a very poor family at Fellowship one time and I do not think God saw them as being disrespectful to him.
I think people should get over the same old forever old issues that some people choose to get all bent over and be glad in the day the lord hath made. Be glad for those who come to church no matter how they dress. Be glad for each day you can be free and serve others.
Fellowship
Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook
I understand your point and respect it. I would only submit I have never worn rags to church but I did see a very poor family at Fellowship one time and I do not think God saw them as being disrespectful to him.
I think people should get over the same old forever old issues that some people choose to get all bent over and be glad in the day the lord hath made. Be glad for those who come to church no matter how they dress. Be glad for each day you can be free and serve others.
Fellowship
i understand your point and respect it also, i have just grown up with that so feel that if you can look a little nicer its more respectful to do
but you are absolutly right, i dont think it REALLY matters, i 100% believe god doesn't look poorly upon if u come dressed in a washcloth, but i think its more respectful if u wear some of ur nicest (just personal feeling, deep rooted, not sure why)
Originally posted by LiquidR
See this is why I think why Christianity is dieing in the Western world, cuz so many so called Christians are so hung up on the superficial, the outer dressing of the faith (the type of music, what people are wearing, etc...) Non-Christians see this and think, man what a f***ing joke. This is why Islam is growing so hard core, it deals with things that are more real, sure a good number of Islamicists are armed paramilitary groups hell-bent on bombing US interests, but at least their faith is focused on something more substantial than what Jane Doe wore to church. This is ridiculous, this part of the reason I feel so uncomfortable with others of my own faith.
I am a Christian and I sort of agree with what you are saying. I do agree 100% that in Christian circles where what you mention above is all they concern themselves with they are indeed becoming a dead bunch. I would say in Churches where the message is the message of God and things like clothes and style of music are not the items for judgement that in such Churches be it Fellowship Church or Hillsong or others they are growing by the thousands and keep having to knock the walls out farther and farther.
I think people should get over their self-rightious judging of how others look or choose to worship.
Live and let live.
Love all..
Fellowship
Originally posted by ast3r3x
i understand your point and respect it also, i have just grown up with that so feel that if you can look a little nicer its more respectful to do
but you are absolutly right, i dont think it REALLY matters, i 100% believe god doesn't look poorly upon if u come dressed in a washcloth, but i think its more respectful if u wear some of ur nicest (just personal feeling, deep rooted, not sure why)
I understand what you are saying completely. I respect that as well.
Fellowship