For me I'd say this release is actually more unstable. I did a full clean install on my g4. While more bug fixes it's the first time I've ever had kernal panics. I saw them several times with pppoe. Several other people are reporting the same.
I think it's either really stable or really crappy. Guess it depends on your computer model.
For me I'd say this release is actually more unstable. I did a full clean install on my g4. While more bug fixes it's the first time I've ever had kernal panics. I saw them several times with pppoe. Several other people are reporting the same.
I think it's either really stable or really crappy. Guess it depends on your computer model.
let's just say that the stuff that i've seen makes me very certain that the same level of spit-and-polish that was present in OS 9 is definitely making a reappearance in Panther.
And, when you switch to the 'classic' finder- toolbar and sidebarless- it's not metal.
And, when you switch to the 'classic' finder- toolbar and sidebarless- it's not metal.
There is a method to the metal madness.
Hold the phone, Nancyboy! It changes on the fly like that when you hit the toolbar widget? When it's in "Classic Finder" mode, can you still have the same folder/location open in two windows at the same time? That really seemed to PO the people who went out of their way to do that.
If you set the scrolling speed higher it feels exactly like the beautiful scrolling in Windows XP on my 2ghz Dell workstation with a 64mb video card.
This is on my 600mhz G4 (upgraded) B&W with a 16mb video card.
Also it seems in this build they finally fixed the column views in open/save dialogs. These previously never drilled down right and sometimes would stop drilling down when you clicked on a folder. This has been a bug since the beginning of OS X. With this fix the open and save magically feel 10x more powerful.
Way to go Apple.
This build is very VERY picky about old preferences and old settings from your library. Don't copy stuff over into the new one or you will see plenty of kernel panics.
PPPoe gave me a kernal panic the first time around when it continued to connect trying the wrong password. Once I'm connected my connection is much more stable than previous builds. Previous builds would drop the connection and not be able to reconnect without changing settings in Network.
I also notice I get much faster speeds in speed tests right outta the box. Maybe Apple tweaks the connection settings now?
** DAMN scroll speeds are so fluid even when i have a dialog box like the post window. It is just like windows. Move over the dialog box and it scrolls super fast, move over the page area and the page scrolls just as fast. No more choppiness!
When it's in "Classic Finder" mode, can you still have the same folder/location open in two windows at the same time?
no
see sticky thread
been like that since the first DP
jon:
meh, you win... i havent played on my panther macs on account that between me trying to install virtual PC and win XP pro corporate they both are borked...
clean installing both is going to suck considering it will be the 3rd time...
Hold the phone, Nancyboy! It changes on the fly like that when you hit the toolbar widget? When it's in "Classic Finder" mode, can you still have the same folder/location open in two windows at the same time? That really seemed to PO the people who went out of their way to do that.
i have no idea-
i think it's the same, but stripey. so as to convey the sense that 'hey, it's different' to those luddites.
Remember that my first "complete" set of snapshots can be found on page 3 and page 8 of the old "Panther Requests" thread for images from the WWDC build. The images I post here will just be of things that have changed since the previous build or things that I missed before.
Comments
Originally posted by Gambit
Come on, Brad, you son of a bitch!! Let's get this show on the road!!!
Son of a bitch?
I want to hear vicki say that.
I think it's either really stable or really crappy. Guess it depends on your computer model.
Originally posted by inkhead
For me I'd say this release is actually more unstable. I did a full clean install on my g4. While more bug fixes it's the first time I've ever had kernal panics. I saw them several times with pppoe. Several other people are reporting the same.
I think it's either really stable or really crappy. Guess it depends on your computer model.
http://bugreporter.apple.com/
This thing better be the damn Taj Mahal!
And, when you switch to the 'classic' finder- toolbar and sidebarless- it's not metal.
There is a method to the metal madness.
Saints be praised.
it's aqua. like. stripey.
Originally posted by Jonathan
And, when you switch to the 'classic' finder- toolbar and sidebarless- it's not metal.
There is a method to the metal madness.
Hold the phone, Nancyboy! It changes on the fly like that when you hit the toolbar widget? When it's in "Classic Finder" mode, can you still have the same folder/location open in two windows at the same time? That really seemed to PO the people who went out of their way to do that.
(brad I would IM you, but my iChat is busted and I'm too lazy to fix it...)
eat it, pauline.
This is on my 600mhz G4 (upgraded) B&W with a 16mb video card.
Also it seems in this build they finally fixed the column views in open/save dialogs. These previously never drilled down right and sometimes would stop drilling down when you clicked on a folder. This has been a bug since the beginning of OS X. With this fix the open and save magically feel 10x more powerful.
Way to go Apple.
This build is very VERY picky about old preferences and old settings from your library. Don't copy stuff over into the new one or you will see plenty of kernel panics.
PPPoe gave me a kernal panic the first time around when it continued to connect trying the wrong password. Once I'm connected my connection is much more stable than previous builds. Previous builds would drop the connection and not be able to reconnect without changing settings in Network.
I also notice I get much faster speeds in speed tests right outta the box. Maybe Apple tweaks the connection settings now?
** DAMN scroll speeds are so fluid even when i have a dialog box like the post window. It is just like windows. Move over the dialog box and it scrolls super fast, move over the page area and the page scrolls just as fast. No more choppiness!
Originally posted by BuonRotto
When it's in "Classic Finder" mode, can you still have the same folder/location open in two windows at the same time?
no
see sticky thread
been like that since the first DP
jon:
meh, you win... i havent played on my panther macs on account that between me trying to install virtual PC and win XP pro corporate they both are borked...
clean installing both is going to suck considering it will be the 3rd time...
Is the latest Finder build metal or isn't it? I wasn't aware there was more than one version in any of the builds.
Brad, we must have screens immediately!
8)
Originally posted by BuonRotto
Hold the phone, Nancyboy! It changes on the fly like that when you hit the toolbar widget? When it's in "Classic Finder" mode, can you still have the same folder/location open in two windows at the same time? That really seemed to PO the people who went out of their way to do that.
i have no idea-
i think it's the same, but stripey. so as to convey the sense that 'hey, it's different' to those luddites.
it switches to aqua when you hit the oblong toolbar/sidebar hide widget.
it switches appearances on the fly, yes.
Remember that my first "complete" set of snapshots can be found on page 3 and page 8 of the old "Panther Requests" thread for images from the WWDC build. The images I post here will just be of things that have changed since the previous build or things that I missed before.
"Grab Bag"
Cocoa Font Panel
Crash Dialog
Updated Security "lock" Icon
Address Book
Address Book - Preferences, General note the cute new purple help button
Address Book - Preferences, Exchange Synchronization
Chess
Chess - main window
Chess - in "floating board" mode
Chess - Preferences
Chess - rotating the board with the mouse QuickTime movie
Disk Utility
Disk Utility - main window
Disk Utility - About box
Disk Utility - drive selected
Disk Utility - volume selected
Disk Utility - Info window, drive
Disk Utility - Info window, volume
Disk Utility - Fix OS 9 Permissions
Disk Utility - Log window
DVD Player
Not pictured: the new controller now has a grabber on the drawer.
DVD Player - icon
Finder
Finder - Archive "selection" menu item
Finder - archived file icon
Finder - Go menu note the addition of utilities folder
Finder - Preferences, General
Finder - Preferences, Labels
Finder - Preferences, Sidebar
Finder - Preferences, Advanced
Finder - "classic"-style window click the toolbar widget and it toggles from the brushed with the toolbar and sidebar to this
Finder - animated icon launch QuickTime movie
Fonts
Finder - Preferences, Labels
Font Book - main window
Font Book - About box
Font Book - Preferences
Font Book - Preview
Mail
Mail now comes with four gorgeous alert sounds for Fetch Error, Mail Sent, New Mail, and No Mail.
Mail - Viewer using thread view on messages I replied to myself
Mail - Attachments menu
Mail - Preference, General
Mail - Preference, Signatures
Mail - Accounts, Account Information
Mail - Accounts, Special Mailboxes
Mail - Accounts, Advanced
Software Update
Software Update - updates available
Software Update - progress
Software Update - optimizing
System Preferences
System Preferences - main window
System Preferences - Appearance note smooth srolling
System Preferences - Accounts, No Limits
System Preferences - Accounts, Some Limits
System Preferences - Accounts, Simple Finder
System Preferences - Date & Time, Clock
System Preferences - International, Formats
hail to the cash!!