Apple Hypes MWSF 2002

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  • Reply 61 of 1761
    it is 1am GMT right?



    It's 9am Pacific Time - isn't that around 5pm GMT?
  • Reply 62 of 1761
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Something to remember while reading the hype Apple put on the web site...



    Apple introduced the 500Mhz G4 in Sept of 1999 and now just 2 years later they now have an 867Mhz G4...



    367Mhz in only two short years.. now I know this isn't exacty Apples fault but no matter where the blame goes the last two years haven't gotten us much from Apple (in the desktop sector). CD-RW and DVD-R are cool... Airport is too... but the meat between the bread has been less than tasty for quite some time...



    Dave
  • Reply 62 of 1761
    [quote]Originally posted by Fran441:

    <strong> Why is Apple having the keynote a day earlier? </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I am convinced this is all part of the hype machine. They moved the keynote back a day to get people talking and speculating. It means more media will show up and it means the rumour mills like this one will be running amuck trying to guess. The sad truth: The only way we can find out is by watching the keynote.



    Maximum RDF exposure. That's what this is all about. Because the more RDF you have, the easier you part with your cash. An extra to buy stuff. An extra day of coverage in the media.



  • Reply 64 of 1761
    x704x704 Posts: 276member
    [quote]Originally posted by Fran441:

    <strong>Moving up the keynote a day was big.

    [...]

    I don't really think that Apple would move the keynote up a day just for that. So the question is this: Why is Apple having the keynote a day earlier? I think it's because Steve's keynote was rescheduled to be longer and they didn't want people who signed up for expensive workshops to miss them.



    Steve's keynote being scheduled for that long also means that he obviously has more to say than usual. More time = More/Bigger announcements.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That makes a lot of sense. "Hope Springs Eternal" (where's that Mandicard fellow these days anyway).
  • Reply 65 of 1761
    kidredkidred Posts: 2,402member
    [quote]Originally posted by Ambrose Chapel:

    <strong>it is 1am GMT right?



    It's 9am Pacific Time - isn't that around 5pm GMT?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That's 12pm eastern correct?
  • Reply 66 of 1761
    yep
  • Reply 67 of 1761
    x704x704 Posts: 276member
    [quote]Originally posted by KidRed:

    <strong>



    That's 12pm eastern correct?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yup, 3 hours forward.
  • Reply 67 of 1761
    revsrevs Posts: 93member
    [quote]Originally posted by Ambrose Chapel:

    <strong>it is 1am GMT right?



    It's 9am Pacific Time - isn't that around 5pm GMT?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Well I changed my time zone to PST and it went back 8hours....
  • Reply 69 of 1761
    tcotco Posts: 87member
    Dude, you're counting it the wrong way . It's later in that direction, not earlier.
  • Reply 70 of 1761
    "We've got something a little revolutionary today, and well, I'd like to tell you a bit about it...." [buffering] "&lt;cautious applause&gt; and a brand new PowerPC" [click] "ocessor running at" [buffering] "&lt;huge amounts of applause&gt; Now, do you want to see how it looks? Could you bring it out? [video stops] &lt;deafening applause&gt; &lt;cough&gt; &lt;more applause&gt;" [requested data] "iller to show what this can do." "Hey Steve" [buffering] "tperforms this Athlon XP by" [click] "&lt;thunderous applause&gt; but that's just the iMac. Here's the G" [click] [video breaks up] [buffering] [requested data] [QuickTime crashes]
  • Reply 71 of 1761
    Haha, Fork, that's exactly what it was like for me at MWNY '00. I was watching it over 56K. The video died halfway through and I never got it back.
  • Reply 72 of 1761
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    [quote]Originally posted by Fran441:

    <strong>they didn't want people who signed up for expensive workshops to miss them.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Umm, that monday there was suposed to be expensive workshops. They had to be resceduled... so I dono about that... I do agree that this is overly hyped... I just hope that they can back it up...



    -Paul



    Edit: grammar



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  • Reply 73 of 1761
    I don't think Apple would drum up this much hype if they couldn't deliver. I think (hope) they learned the lesson after MWNY '01..there was after all the "no new hardware" announcement at Seybold (or whatever it was in the Fall). The only question really is whether or not they think the new iMac is enough to justify the hype.
  • Reply 74 of 1761
    Wow. This is some far-out hype.



    LCD iMac for sure, but that isn't enough to warrant such hype. A single new product revision is not that "big" of an event, even if it's a new iMac. What about the show where Apple introduced the cube, and the new Titanium? They didn't hype that show like this.



    No, this is an order of magnitude larger. Here's what I think:



    G4 iMacs.

    G5 Powermacs.



    New headless iMac/consumer tower/reworked cube powered by a G4 and speced about like the current towers but without PCI slots.



    Speed-bumped powermacs alone are not enough, even if they are &gt;1GHz. If the Powermacs broke the 1 GHz barrier, that would only be a 15% increase in MHz...nothing to write home about.



    LCD iMacs alone are not enough...it is a commonplace item, and even Apple's lineup is full of LCD displays. 2 years ago an LCD iMac would have been huge, but today it inspires only yawns.
  • Reply 75 of 1761
    tcotco Posts: 87member
    Maybe we'll see rackmount G4 servers as well?
  • Reply 76 of 1761
    cobracobra Posts: 253member
    :eek: :eek: :eek:



    Apple is really hyping this one. They are making no attempts to dampen the hype either, for sure.



    I think Steve was quite displeased with the showing back in New York in July.



    If G4's show up in iMacs, I think G5 towers will happen also.



    Once the first item is shown, I think we can then anticipate what will be next. Apple will want to differentiate between the lines. That is unless that Motorola got some insane speeds out of the G4 which I really doubt. I seriously doubt we would see anything higher than 1.2 GHZ at best.



    Of course, there is always the wildcard. Some new digital device perhaps.



    But still, the computers are Apples bread and butter. I would be somewhat concerned if this devices get all the hype while the CPU's languish.



    Its going to be exciting either way.



    :eek: :eek: :eek:





    Cobra



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  • Reply 77 of 1761
    Hey People,



    Go to <a href="http://www.apple.com/home/"; target="_blank">www.apple.com/home/</a>and look at the picture there. I think thats a little bit weird huh?

    I mean, the 600 Mhz ibook has been out for a while. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



    Hey i've got a great idea!

    Someone hack into the apple website!

    (just kidding...i mean if someone actually could that would be great, but..)



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  • Reply 78 of 1761
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>What about the show where Apple introduced the cube, and the new Titanium? They didn't hype that show like this.</strong><hr></blockquote>Two different shows. Cube at MWNY summer 2000, killed just before MWNY 2001. TiBook MWSF Jan. 2001.



    Maybe the one you're thinking of was last year's MWSF. I was thinking about recent Apple events, and that was one of the best ever - finally breaking 500Mhz with the 733, intro of the Superdrive and iDVD, and one more thing - the TiBook, one of the coolest products Apple has ever made. I hope this one is as good as that.



    And the hype on last year's MWSF wasn't that great. People were predicting a new PowerBook, but they had been predicting that for a year. And MOSR had said there wouldn't be a 733, despite the fact that CNet had reported it.
  • Reply 79 of 1761
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    [quote]Originally posted by tiffer17:

    <strong>I mean, the 600 Mhz ibook has been out for a while.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Hmmm, I always wondered why there was no MP3 player with the iBook. Looks like Apple was keeping them out of the spotlight until the iPod showed up....

    I wonder when the idea was first hatched? after MWSF01?



    -Paul



    Edit: wording



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  • Reply 80 of 1761
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:

    <strong>



    They didn't hype MWNY 2001 anymore then the other MWNYs. I've been to every one in NY and there were no more posters then usual. In fact there's one huge ass giant iPod banner thats the size of a building in Time Square right now. Plus another one a few blocks away. I think they're hyping the current iPod more then they hyped MWNY this past summer.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    are you kidding? Apple's advertising was 10X greater for MWNY 2001 than ever before. even local news stations had segments on how expansive their billboard campaign was for this year's. obviously something big was planned for MWNY and wasn't ready.



    I think Apple even said how much they spent on ads for MWNY
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