So what's with all the G5 skepticism? There seem to be a majority (although not vast) who don't believe that the G5 will be released this coming quarter (SF or tokyo).
I must admit I am a doubter myself but only based on the constant pessimism i never shake
What's everyone else's reasons for doubting the G5 release?
Many say Apple dissapointed in NY. While Apple did not try to dampen enthusiasm, they in no way hyped the thing up themselves.
Then, Apple made the announcement of no new hardware before the aborted Apple Expo Paris.
The iPod was just announced in a quick 2 sentence wording by Anderson in an analyst briefing. Yes, some invitations were given out. No hype on the website where most of the mainstream venture too.
<strong>So, you're giving hints to look for DURING the keynote?
OK, here's another hint - if Jobs has a slide that says "G5" on it. They would never put "G5" up there if they weren't going to introduce a G5.</strong><hr></blockquote>
heh heh.....
I am REALLY starting to get excited about this. I think Apple is aware of all the "oh WTF?" comments making the rounds after they hyped up the iPod - a lot of people were disappointed after finding out it was only a MP3 player.
For that reason alone, I have to think Apple is going to do something really, really HUGE Jan 7. They know it's going to blow us all away, and they are not afraid to hype the hell out of it. They know they are going to deliver.
G4 iMac with a 15" LCD and a G5.
Just my 2 cents, even if they do carry less weight than a Meader update...
are you kidding? Apple's advertising was 10X greater for MWNY 2001 than ever before. even local news stations had segments on how expansive their billboard campaign was for this year's. obviously something big was planned for MWNY and wasn't ready.
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Yes, I remember this. Wasn't this the first time in a long while that TechTV covered the keynote with a live broadcast? I remember the negative comments they made throughout it. We really let them have it even though part of us agreed with them. Anyway, the hype for this expo is far greater. Still, I think in Apple's view it could simply be for the new iMacs and nothing more. G4 speedbumps breaking the Gigahertz barrier but no G5, not that I wouldn't mind seeing that.
I'm tellin ya guys...if they release an LCD iMac and break the GHz barrier with the G4, that would be more than enough (in their minds) to warrant this kind of hype. Let's not forget through all of this, that Steve really is full of himself.
<strong>I'm tellin ya guys...if they release an LCD iMac and break the GHz barrier with the G4, that would be more than enough (in their minds) to warrant this kind of hype. Let's not forget through all of this, that Steve really is full of himself.
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and that's exactly why they are saying that it is big even for their standards.
normally an LCD iMac and a G4 breaking 1 Ghz would be big for apple. but this is bigger. that's why they say bigger than their standards.
<strong>normally an LCD iMac and a G4 breaking 1 Ghz would be big for apple. but this is bigger. that's why they say bigger than their standards.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What about pre-loading osX as default? That would be a huge deal at Apple. Maybe they found a way to really speed up classic?
are you kidding? Apple's advertising was 10X greater for MWNY 2001 than ever before. even local news stations had segments on how expansive their billboard campaign was for this year's. obviously something big was planned for MWNY and wasn't ready.
I think Apple even said how much they spent on ads for MWNY</strong><hr></blockquote>
Every single banner said "I < apple> NY" Thats it.
I didn't see any products on banners, no think different banners and no iMacs painted on the sides of buses (as in previous years).
Happy New Year (be it 'twenty oh two' or 'two thousand and two') to one and to all. You are one of the best, interesting collections of intellects that I've encountered. Would have been a blast to have been in the same dorm with y'all.
[quote] What about pre-loading osX as default? That would be a huge deal at Apple. <hr></blockquote>
Yeah, they are going to install OS X and OS 9 on all new Macs, like they do now, but the Startup Disk control panel will be set to boot from OS X instead of OS 9. Astounding.
You called it, dude! This explains all the hype coming from Apple. What a revolutionary change.
I think Apple would actually be pretty hypocritical for patting itself on the back for breaking the mythical 1 GHZ barrier.
Hasn't Apple in the past said clock speed means nothing?
A G4 1 GHZ announcement would go over like a lead balloon.
A totally new G5 would be quite different though. Its something new.
I suspect that Apple has been begging Moto to keep hush. Any G5 desktop chip announcement by Moto would just be pre-announcing a new Powermac by Apple.
All the writeups by the press would read like this:
the one thing i have yet to see mentioned here is "GigaWire" this may be somehting big...... it is a whole new technology that apple has trademarked and we all know nothing about it yet. what better way to introduce it to the world than on a new flat panel iMac and new PowerMacs......
also. think of this. if the rumor is true of Steve keynoting CES later that same week I think whatever this big thing is has to be an industry type of impact not just new Mac desktop machines....
also don't forget that we have yet to see iPicture (another apple trademark)
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I must admit I am a doubter myself but only based on the constant pessimism i never shake
What's everyone else's reasons for doubting the G5 release?
if one of the flat screens on stage has a desktop with an athlon on it.
they would never put a G4 against an athlon.
Many say Apple dissapointed in NY. While Apple did not try to dampen enthusiasm, they in no way hyped the thing up themselves.
Then, Apple made the announcement of no new hardware before the aborted Apple Expo Paris.
The iPod was just announced in a quick 2 sentence wording by Anderson in an analyst briefing. Yes, some invitations were given out. No hype on the website where most of the mainstream venture too.
Just some thoughts on the subject.
Cobra
<strong>key to know if a G5 is coming....
if one of the flat screens on stage has a desktop with an athlon on it.
they would never put a G4 against an athlon.</strong><hr></blockquote>So, you're giving hints to look for DURING the keynote?
OK, here's another hint - if Jobs has a slide that says "G5" on it. They would never put "G5" up there if they weren't going to introduce a G5.
<strong>So, you're giving hints to look for DURING the keynote?
OK, here's another hint - if Jobs has a slide that says "G5" on it. They would never put "G5" up there if they weren't going to introduce a G5.</strong><hr></blockquote>
heh heh.....
I am REALLY starting to get excited about this. I think Apple is aware of all the "oh WTF?" comments making the rounds after they hyped up the iPod - a lot of people were disappointed after finding out it was only a MP3 player.
For that reason alone, I have to think Apple is going to do something really, really HUGE Jan 7. They know it's going to blow us all away, and they are not afraid to hype the hell out of it. They know they are going to deliver.
G4 iMac with a 15" LCD and a G5.
Just my 2 cents, even if they do carry less weight than a Meader update...
[ 12-31-2001: Message edited by: murbot ]</p>
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are you kidding? Apple's advertising was 10X greater for MWNY 2001 than ever before. even local news stations had segments on how expansive their billboard campaign was for this year's. obviously something big was planned for MWNY and wasn't ready.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes, I remember this. Wasn't this the first time in a long while that TechTV covered the keynote with a live broadcast? I remember the negative comments they made throughout it. We really let them have it even though part of us agreed with them. Anyway, the hype for this expo is far greater. Still, I think in Apple's view it could simply be for the new iMacs and nothing more. G4 speedbumps breaking the Gigahertz barrier but no G5, not that I wouldn't mind seeing that.
<strong>I'm tellin ya guys...if they release an LCD iMac and break the GHz barrier with the G4, that would be more than enough (in their minds) to warrant this kind of hype. Let's not forget through all of this, that Steve really is full of himself.
and that's exactly why they are saying that it is big even for their standards.
normally an LCD iMac and a G4 breaking 1 Ghz would be big for apple. but this is bigger. that's why they say bigger than their standards.
<strong>normally an LCD iMac and a G4 breaking 1 Ghz would be big for apple. but this is bigger. that's why they say bigger than their standards.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What about pre-loading osX as default? That would be a huge deal at Apple. Maybe they found a way to really speed up classic?
-Paul
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What about pre-loading osX as default? That would be a huge deal at Apple. Maybe they found a way to really speed up classic?
-Paul</strong><hr></blockquote>
neither of those seem like anything to hype up.
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are you kidding? Apple's advertising was 10X greater for MWNY 2001 than ever before. even local news stations had segments on how expansive their billboard campaign was for this year's. obviously something big was planned for MWNY and wasn't ready.
I think Apple even said how much they spent on ads for MWNY</strong><hr></blockquote>
Every single banner said "I < apple> NY" Thats it.
I didn't see any products on banners, no think different banners and no iMacs painted on the sides of buses (as in previous years).
I still think MWNY wasn't over hyped.
<a href="http://www.apple.com/scitech/stories/skycorp/index2.html"; target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/scitech/stories/skycorp/index2.html</a>;
The best I can do; I'm spent.
Happy New Year (be it 'twenty oh two' or 'two thousand and two') to one and to all. You are one of the best, interesting collections of intellects that I've encountered. Would have been a blast to have been in the same dorm with y'all.
Aries 1B
Yeah, they are going to install OS X and OS 9 on all new Macs, like they do now, but the Startup Disk control panel will be set to boot from OS X instead of OS 9. Astounding.
You called it, dude! This explains all the hype coming from Apple. What a revolutionary change.
Hasn't Apple in the past said clock speed means nothing?
A G4 1 GHZ announcement would go over like a lead balloon.
A totally new G5 would be quite different though. Its something new.
I suspect that Apple has been begging Moto to keep hush. Any G5 desktop chip announcement by Moto would just be pre-announcing a new Powermac by Apple.
All the writeups by the press would read like this:
"Apple FINALLY gets the G4's past 1 GHZ".
Not extremely flattering.
[ 12-31-2001: Message edited by: Cobra ]</p>
also. think of this. if the rumor is true of Steve keynoting CES later that same week I think whatever this big thing is has to be an industry type of impact not just new Mac desktop machines....
also don't forget that we have yet to see iPicture (another apple trademark)
[correctd iPhoto to iPicture]
[ 12-31-2001: Message edited by: macXusr ]</p>
2.) I don't think Apple has a trademark on iPhoto. iPhoto is some kind of seminar by another company with apple I think
[ 12-31-2001: Message edited by: applenut ]</p>
Or something like that. It was never an 'iapp'