So the palestinians have to kill jews? Please correct me if I am wrong, but that is the impression I get.
Is it that they can't help it? These suicide vests just fall out of the sky and land on them and they wander aimlessly until they get to a bunch of jews and their finger just happens to twitch and press that button? Or are they being forced to kill by the big bad wall?
It's possible to both condemn the suicide bombers and understand the desperation that motivates them.
Mika, the term "Arab land" doesn't mean anything. There's not enough Palestinian land to sustain them.
It means everything; since they are Arabs.
I also find it curious that you draw this conclusion regards the Arab side and not the Jewish side. Because as far as I know, it is Israel alone that is forced to export water from a third country (Turkey).
Ever look at a map of the Middle East? What is this desperation that motivates them? There's not enough Arab land to go around?
The theft of the land is one thing and you should understand the desire to return, Mika, having once had a quote from Theodor Herzl as your sig.
I honestly don't believe you're capable of recognising the humiliation and the indignity that the Palestinian people now suffer because it appears you don't actually see them as people.
The theft of the land is one thing and you should understand the desire to return, Mika, having once had a quote from Theodor Herzl as your sig.
I honestly don't believe you're capable of recognising the humiliation and the indignity that the Palestinian people now suffer because it appears you don't actually see them as people.
The family of the teenager said he was gullible and easily manipulated. "He doesn?t know anything, and he has the intelligence of a 12-year-old," his brother, Hosni, said.
The Israeli military said Abdo?s mission was to kill soldiers at the crowded Hawara Checkpoint. "In addition to the fact that he would have harmed my soldiers, he would have also harmed the Palestinians waiting at the checkpoint, and there were 200-300 innocent Palestinians there," a commander said.
"No matter how many times Israel learns of the use of children for suicide bombings, it is shocking on each occasion. Israelis do not understand how Palestinians are willing to sacrifice their own children in order to kill ours." Dore Gold, aide to Ariel Sharon.
It appears it's not only Mika who doesn't see the palestinians as people. Its government policy. Demonization and alienation...
"No matter how many times Israel learns of the use of children for suicide bombings, it is shocking on each occasion. Israelis do not understand how Palestinians are willing to sacrifice their own children in order to kill ours." Dore Gold, aide to Ariel Sharon.
It appears it's not only Mika who doesn't see the palestinians as people. Its government policy. Demonization and alienation...
So you don't see it as demonic to send a 16 year old half-wit on a suicide mission to murder Israelis?
Breaking news: it seems Yassin offered Sharon a 30-year cease fire and cessation of Hamas activities.
According to Efraim Halevy (a former Mossad operative) Yassin made the 30-year offer whilst in prison. He also offered Israel a 10-year truce on condition of Israel withdrawing its troops and settlers from all of the West Bank and Gaza Strip (can you say UN resolution ?).
According to Netanyahu though, the offers were "worthless" - ie: not even considered, discussed, thought about or in anyway let to interfere with the reciprocal killing.
So they let him out of prison instead.
Seems like that's the Sharon approach: kill them because they are animals - if they make a peace offer it can't be genuine because they are animals.
I know you read the Koran. Don't you think Jews already know about muslim truce offers first hand?
So I did a little search for that Mika girl, and turns out this girl was banned. But what's funny is every time you people find someone that disagrees with your arab views, you id them as that girl and have them banned as well. HAHAHAHA. Man, that is sad.
So you don't see it as demonic to send a 16 year old half-wit on a suicide mission to murder Israelis?
Sure, but he doesn't represent all palestinians (or arabs), and I'm sure even some israelis have a pretty good clue of why he would try to blow himself up. I hear they teach sociology in israel too...
This is just a new phrasing of Golda Meirs good ol' : "We will have peace in the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jew..."
Which if use on any other ethnic group, would be considered deeply racist...
Every time you people find someone that disagrees with your arab views, you id them as that girl and have them banned as well. HAHAHAHA. Man, that is sad.
Mika was a girl?
Wow.
No, Mika was a horrendous, racist, sick individual who kept on coming back using different names before getting justifiable bans. The mods don't ban people because someone says "You're so-and-so aren't you?".
I think she was the only person here who used genuine hate-speech knowingly; who once said that "ethnic cleansing" was the solution to the middle east. Mika also made the most disgusting and obscene racist comments about me personally, profoundly hurtful, and -- it's an over-used word -- facist.
That way lies the gas chambers and ditches that claimed the lives of millions of Jews. I'm sure you can see the logic of that?
Mika was also one of a few genuinely ill indivuals on AO. Traumatised by events in Israel maybe, maybe ill for other reasons, but psychologically sick. I wish that Mika had shown traces of understanding, had been more sympathetic a character. We shouldn't have been so hard on Mika but encouraged Mika to seek medical help. I say this with no irony whatsover, but a bit of guilt.
The tragedy of Mika, to bring this back on topic, was that she couldn't see that she and the suicide bombers were two sides of the same coin, and that she was every bit as ill, every much part of the same problem, as those murderous, desperate, sick, traumatised fools in al Asqa and Hamas.
So I did a little search for that Mika girl, and turns out this girl was banned. But what's funny is every time you people find someone that disagrees with your arab views, you id them as that girl and have them banned as well. HAHAHAHA. Man, that is sad.
And you expect to be taken serious with this post?
Sure, but he doesn't represent all palestinians (or arabs), and I'm sure even some israelis have a pretty good clue of why he would try to blow himself up. I hear they teach sociology in israel too...
This is just a new phrasing of Golda Meirs good ol' : "We will have peace in the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jew..."
Which if use on any other ethnic group, would be considered deeply racist...
I would say Golda has made a very acute observation. But I'm willing to grant you 1 percent error just for the sake of semantics.
Just read an interesting statement on the killing from an Orthodox Jewish perspective at Neturei Karta. Some highlights from the statement of Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss:
An interesting read.....
Interesting indeed, but Neturei Karta will be "branded" as self-hating jews by some people (you know who you are) just like the "not in my name" organisation"
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Originally posted by NaplesX
So the palestinians have to kill jews? Please correct me if I am wrong, but that is the impression I get.
Is it that they can't help it? These suicide vests just fall out of the sky and land on them and they wander aimlessly until they get to a bunch of jews and their finger just happens to twitch and press that button? Or are they being forced to kill by the big bad wall?
It's possible to both condemn the suicide bombers and understand the desperation that motivates them.
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
It's possible to both condemn the suicide bombers and understand the desperation that motivates them.
NO.
Ever look at a map of the Middle East? What is this desperation that motivates them? There's not enough Arab land to go around?
Originally posted by DeManON
NO.
Ever look at a map of the Middle East? What is this desperation that motivates them? There's not enough Arab land to go around?
Mika, the term "Arab land" doesn't mean anything. There's not enough Palestinian land to sustain them.
Originally posted by 709
Die. Please.
This post is unwelcome. Please take note.
Fellowship
Originally posted by bunge
Mika, the term "Arab land" doesn't mean anything. There's not enough Palestinian land to sustain them.
You're now the second person to address me by that name. Is there a reason for this?
Originally posted by bunge
Mika, the term "Arab land" doesn't mean anything. There's not enough Palestinian land to sustain them.
It means everything; since they are Arabs.
I also find it curious that you draw this conclusion regards the Arab side and not the Jewish side. Because as far as I know, it is Israel alone that is forced to export water from a third country (Turkey).
Originally posted by DeManON
NO.
Ever look at a map of the Middle East? What is this desperation that motivates them? There's not enough Arab land to go around?
The theft of the land is one thing and you should understand the desire to return, Mika, having once had a quote from Theodor Herzl as your sig.
I honestly don't believe you're capable of recognising the humiliation and the indignity that the Palestinian people now suffer because it appears you don't actually see them as people.
Originally posted by DeManON
NO.
Ever look at a map of the Middle East? What is this desperation that motivates them? There's not enough Arab land to go around?
Oh: and when was Israel given the right to decide who deserves to own what?
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
The theft of the land is one thing and you should understand the desire to return, Mika, having once had a quote from Theodor Herzl as your sig.
I honestly don't believe you're capable of recognising the humiliation and the indignity that the Palestinian people now suffer because it appears you don't actually see them as people.
WTF is this Mika?
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
It's possible to both condemn the suicide bombers and understand the desperation that motivates them.
Oh, you mean these people ?
The family of the teenager said he was gullible and easily manipulated. "He doesn?t know anything, and he has the intelligence of a 12-year-old," his brother, Hosni, said.
The Israeli military said Abdo?s mission was to kill soldiers at the crowded Hawara Checkpoint. "In addition to the fact that he would have harmed my soldiers, he would have also harmed the Palestinians waiting at the checkpoint, and there were 200-300 innocent Palestinians there," a commander said.
It appears it's not only Mika who doesn't see the palestinians as people. Its government policy. Demonization and alienation...
Originally posted by New
"No matter how many times Israel learns of the use of children for suicide bombings, it is shocking on each occasion. Israelis do not understand how Palestinians are willing to sacrifice their own children in order to kill ours." Dore Gold, aide to Ariel Sharon.
It appears it's not only Mika who doesn't see the palestinians as people. Its government policy. Demonization and alienation...
So you don't see it as demonic to send a 16 year old half-wit on a suicide mission to murder Israelis?
Originally posted by segovius
Breaking news: it seems Yassin offered Sharon a 30-year cease fire and cessation of Hamas activities.
According to Efraim Halevy (a former Mossad operative) Yassin made the 30-year offer whilst in prison. He also offered Israel a 10-year truce on condition of Israel withdrawing its troops and settlers from all of the West Bank and Gaza Strip (can you say UN resolution ?).
According to Netanyahu though, the offers were "worthless" - ie: not even considered, discussed, thought about or in anyway let to interfere with the reciprocal killing.
So they let him out of prison instead.
Seems like that's the Sharon approach: kill them because they are animals - if they make a peace offer it can't be genuine because they are animals.
I know you read the Koran. Don't you think Jews already know about muslim truce offers first hand?
So I did a little search for that Mika girl, and turns out this girl was banned. But what's funny is every time you people find someone that disagrees with your arab views, you id them as that girl and have them banned as well. HAHAHAHA. Man, that is sad.
Originally posted by DeManON
So you don't see it as demonic to send a 16 year old half-wit on a suicide mission to murder Israelis?
Sure, but he doesn't represent all palestinians (or arabs), and I'm sure even some israelis have a pretty good clue of why he would try to blow himself up. I hear they teach sociology in israel too...
This is just a new phrasing of Golda Meirs good ol' : "We will have peace in the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jew..."
Which if use on any other ethnic group, would be considered deeply racist...
Originally posted by DeManON
Every time you people find someone that disagrees with your arab views, you id them as that girl and have them banned as well. HAHAHAHA. Man, that is sad.
Mika was a girl?
Wow.
No, Mika was a horrendous, racist, sick individual who kept on coming back using different names before getting justifiable bans. The mods don't ban people because someone says "You're so-and-so aren't you?".
I think she was the only person here who used genuine hate-speech knowingly; who once said that "ethnic cleansing" was the solution to the middle east. Mika also made the most disgusting and obscene racist comments about me personally, profoundly hurtful, and -- it's an over-used word -- facist.
That way lies the gas chambers and ditches that claimed the lives of millions of Jews. I'm sure you can see the logic of that?
Mika was also one of a few genuinely ill indivuals on AO. Traumatised by events in Israel maybe, maybe ill for other reasons, but psychologically sick. I wish that Mika had shown traces of understanding, had been more sympathetic a character. We shouldn't have been so hard on Mika but encouraged Mika to seek medical help. I say this with no irony whatsover, but a bit of guilt.
The tragedy of Mika, to bring this back on topic, was that she couldn't see that she and the suicide bombers were two sides of the same coin, and that she was every bit as ill, every much part of the same problem, as those murderous, desperate, sick, traumatised fools in al Asqa and Hamas.
Originally posted by DeManON
HAHAHAHAH
So I did a little search for that Mika girl, and turns out this girl was banned. But what's funny is every time you people find someone that disagrees with your arab views, you id them as that girl and have them banned as well. HAHAHAHA. Man, that is sad.
And you expect to be taken serious with this post?
Originally posted by New
Sure, but he doesn't represent all palestinians (or arabs), and I'm sure even some israelis have a pretty good clue of why he would try to blow himself up. I hear they teach sociology in israel too...
This is just a new phrasing of Golda Meirs good ol' : "We will have peace in the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jew..."
Which if use on any other ethnic group, would be considered deeply racist...
I would say Golda has made a very acute observation. But I'm willing to grant you 1 percent error just for the sake of semantics.
Originally posted by segovius
Just read an interesting statement on the killing from an Orthodox Jewish perspective at Neturei Karta. Some highlights from the statement of Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss:
An interesting read.....
Interesting indeed, but Neturei Karta will be "branded" as self-hating jews by some people (you know who you are) just like the "not in my name" organisation"