Lets ask if they made an LCD iMac out of lined paper and tuppaware, hahahahrerrrrrreeeeeeeeehaaa! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
<strong> I do a lot of post work like this, and the other Mike was correct. Whenever the writers hand hits the prop, it shakes it, someone just used a 4 corner besier warp in After fx or Combustion to basically place a layer on top of the device in perspective. The layer contains the text. Its fairly effective, but if they had been trying to do it correctly, they should have tracked the corners the whole time, rather than just assuming they stayed stationary.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Given the previous crap this kid has posted, it's obvious that he has access to a pretty good selection of post production trickery, be it three-d rendering stuff, or afterfx, and, personally, being an industrial design student at SCAD, which also has an excellent computer art department, I could easily produce a shell like the one in the video using the vacuum molding facilities in i.d., take some video footage, and then go over to norris hall, import the video, play a little in after effects, and, voilla! another cool, superficially convincing, hoax!
of course, my scruples prevent me from doing this.. anymore...
back when I was in high school i played around in photoshop with my mp130 to make it look like it had a color screen and was running mac os 8, and then, somehow, it ended up on Mac The Knife. But I don't do that stuff anymore.
<strong>Oh my gosh you guys are the same kids who said the Cube was a fake! Note to self... All the self proclaimed photoshop debunkers come out at night...
And debunk away...
Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes, I did think the Cube was fake -- the "stacking and multi-processing" rumors were part of that. Oh wait, that was fake. Still, I'm typing this on my Cube right now.
I'm not saying that the iWalk is fake, but the video definately is. It's Microsoft-Federal-Court fake.
Oh, and I love the tabs at the bottom of the screen. Does that mean they'll bring popup windows to os X? And windowshade?
In those pictures the wheel looks like it's inside of a groove.
I think I should just stay quiet and not say it's a fake. I want it to be real so badly. We'll keep hearing arguments pro and against... until Monday. Come on Monday. I wonder what tomorrow's saying will be at Apple's site.
damn!.. just as i was sure we had a fake on our hands.. you give us these very good looking pictures.. now i'm all confused...
btw.. spymac.com.. any minute NOW?.. no, not yet.. why aren't they officially releasing?.. i want to see all of their proof, assuming there's more than the 1 video and the recent 3 pictures.
well.. damn.. i'll go ahead and be the first to say.. if it's got airport and its $400 (which would make it VERY hard for them to sell an iPod for the same).. i'd definitely buy one!
My take so far....but first let me add that I'd like to see the photos other than the thumbnail...anyone have them to post?
As for the 2MB movie file...I have to say it is very convincing, and if it's a hoax then somebody's got too much time on their hands.
1) OS - looks too Newton-y to me - I would guess that if Apple were going to release a PDA, it would be more computer and less newton. I would imagine a dock at the bottom rather than those icons - but then again, we're only shown an app and not any OS feature. And maybe the Dock is really those things displayed at the bottom (the center one says "Overview" - being used more for a toolbar for each app. If it came airport-ready and had a fast web browser capable of things like Flash, I think it would sell regardless.
2) Handwriting - I wish there were a shot where a shadow from the hand would pass over the handwriting so I could decide whether it's a layer or whether it's actually something displayed beneath the clear covering of the screen. Right now, the writing looks a bit too crisp to me, with less depth than the converted text.
3) Screen - The battery icon seems to contain color of some sort, but the video quality is so bad it's impossible to tell - gray is so close to blue when hue/saturation is this bad. The saving grace is that the background is white - this would lead me to believe that the screen could be color and the "notepad" or whatever is just not a color app (makes sense). For an example of this, look at the color Palm devices that display white backgrounds rather than gray when an app is not using color. A grayscale display doesn't do this. However, this display still doesn't seem backlit enough to me to display color well.
4) The "wheel" - who knows? I haven't seen a good picture of it - maybe it's not as bad as it looks, or serves some purpose. Things like that have happened before. But I agree - it's an odd departure from Apple's recent clean/minimalist designs.
5) 2x - this could be the most damning evidence I could find of a hoax...watch this video in quicktime at either "double size" or "fill screen". Notice that while the iWalk and application graphics seem to move with pressure changes from the hand/pen, text does not. Watch the "Say hello to iWalk text" after it's converted to type...the lines above and below it move, but the text itself remains still between them. In the last moment of video before black, the hand is taken off of the iWalk - the whole device makes a slight but distinctive position change as the hand's pressure is completely removed from its surface, enough to change the angle/reflection of the screen - but that of the text does not change accordingly. In other words, i think the guy could knock this thing off the table, and "Say Hello to iWalk" would still be nicely displayed on the empty desk.
Someone over at Press 3 (formally MacOSX.com) posted the picture of the MWSF 2002 picture folks have been talking about. Looks different than what this "iwalk" looks like.
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Look at he following:
And debunk away...
Dave
Dave
<strong> I do a lot of post work like this, and the other Mike was correct. Whenever the writers hand hits the prop, it shakes it, someone just used a 4 corner besier warp in After fx or Combustion to basically place a layer on top of the device in perspective. The layer contains the text. Its fairly effective, but if they had been trying to do it correctly, they should have tracked the corners the whole time, rather than just assuming they stayed stationary.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Given the previous crap this kid has posted, it's obvious that he has access to a pretty good selection of post production trickery, be it three-d rendering stuff, or afterfx, and, personally, being an industrial design student at SCAD, which also has an excellent computer art department, I could easily produce a shell like the one in the video using the vacuum molding facilities in i.d., take some video footage, and then go over to norris hall, import the video, play a little in after effects, and, voilla! another cool, superficially convincing, hoax!
of course, my scruples prevent me from doing this.. anymore...
back when I was in high school i played around in photoshop with my mp130 to make it look like it had a color screen and was running mac os 8, and then, somehow, it ended up on Mac The Knife. But I don't do that stuff anymore.
ciao,
michael
<strong>Oh my gosh you guys are the same kids who said the Cube was a fake!
And debunk away...
Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes, I did think the Cube was fake -- the "stacking and multi-processing" rumors were part of that. Oh wait, that was fake. Still, I'm typing this on my Cube right now.
I'm not saying that the iWalk is fake, but the video definately is. It's Microsoft-Federal-Court fake.
Oh, and I love the tabs at the bottom of the screen. Does that mean they'll bring popup windows to os X? And windowshade?
We have all the pics up now full res and BIG!
In those pictures the wheel looks like it's inside of a groove.
I think I should just stay quiet and not say it's a fake. I want it to be real so badly. We'll keep hearing arguments pro and against... until Monday. Come on Monday. I wonder what tomorrow's saying will be at Apple's site.
btw.. spymac.com.. any minute NOW?.. no, not yet.. why aren't they officially releasing?.. i want to see all of their proof, assuming there's more than the 1 video and the recent 3 pictures.
well.. damn.. i'll go ahead and be the first to say.. if it's got airport and its $400 (which would make it VERY hard for them to sell an iPod for the same).. i'd definitely buy one!
1/ Even though the screen has a layer which will usually flex a little, the text moves against the guide lines.
2/ Text isn't quite parralel with the guide lines.
3/ He doesn't pick the thing up and turn it around.
4/ He's careful not to lean on it (as to avoid breaking off the glued on doornob)
I see...
E-Mail, Web, Cards (contacts), Calendar (I'm pretty sure), Quicktime, Chess, iTunes...
Well that's about all I can make out from the pull-up menu (hmmm reminds me of a dock wouldn't you say?)... :eek:
Oh yea this is either one very well planned out hoax or else I'm gonna own an iWak as soon as I can get my hands on one!
Dave
As for the 2MB movie file...I have to say it is very convincing, and if it's a hoax then somebody's got too much time on their hands.
1) OS - looks too Newton-y to me - I would guess that if Apple were going to release a PDA, it would be more computer and less newton. I would imagine a dock at the bottom rather than those icons - but then again, we're only shown an app and not any OS feature. And maybe the Dock is really those things displayed at the bottom (the center one says "Overview" - being used more for a toolbar for each app. If it came airport-ready and had a fast web browser capable of things like Flash, I think it would sell regardless.
2) Handwriting - I wish there were a shot where a shadow from the hand would pass over the handwriting so I could decide whether it's a layer or whether it's actually something displayed beneath the clear covering of the screen. Right now, the writing looks a bit too crisp to me, with less depth than the converted text.
3) Screen - The battery icon seems to contain color of some sort, but the video quality is so bad it's impossible to tell - gray is so close to blue when hue/saturation is this bad. The saving grace is that the background is white - this would lead me to believe that the screen could be color and the "notepad" or whatever is just not a color app (makes sense). For an example of this, look at the color Palm devices that display white backgrounds rather than gray when an app is not using color. A grayscale display doesn't do this. However, this display still doesn't seem backlit enough to me to display color well.
4) The "wheel" - who knows? I haven't seen a good picture of it - maybe it's not as bad as it looks, or serves some purpose. Things like that have happened before. But I agree - it's an odd departure from Apple's recent clean/minimalist designs.
5) 2x - this could be the most damning evidence I could find of a hoax...watch this video in quicktime at either "double size" or "fill screen". Notice that while the iWalk and application graphics seem to move with pressure changes from the hand/pen, text does not. Watch the "Say hello to iWalk text" after it's converted to type...the lines above and below it move, but the text itself remains still between them. In the last moment of video before black, the hand is taken off of the iWalk - the whole device makes a slight but distinctive position change as the hand's pressure is completely removed from its surface, enough to change the angle/reflection of the screen - but that of the text does not change accordingly. In other words, i think the guy could knock this thing off the table, and "Say Hello to iWalk" would still be nicely displayed on the empty desk.
It's good, but I think it's a hoax.
-S
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: SpiffyGuyC ]</p>
<strong><a href="http://www.interfacestudio.net/iwalk/"; target="_blank">http://www.interfacestudio.net/iwalk/</a>;
We have all the pics up now full res and BIG!</strong><hr></blockquote>
1st and last movie are errors.
<a href="http://www.press3.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11426"; target="_blank">http://www.press3.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11426</a>;
However, "iwalk" does not currently show up as a registered trademark...read into that what you will.
Fish
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