Well, depending on how big it actually is, it could have enough mass for it's own gravity feild.
However.
Remember in the opening sequence when the ship R2 was on and the ship tipped on it's side? Why in the HELL did everything fall down sideways? The gravity generator should keep everything falling towards the ground, and if it failed, then everything would start floating because they are in outer space. Simply inexcusable dumb filmaking......
well, not as bad as you think.
1. grevious' ship was f8cked. so let's assume the gravity generator went 'offline'
2. the ships were in space, but we don't know if they are actually in orbit
3. thus, it is possible that when the ship is falling, it IS falling towards the ground because it is 'low enough' in the 'atmosphere' that it all the shit on the ship would be falling in the direction of the planet surface
Wasn't it in the news that one of those was stolen by some teenagers? They were caught b/c they only lived 2 blocks away and people saw them bring it home.
1. grevious' ship was f8cked. so let's assume the gravity generator went 'offline'
2. the ships were in space, but we don't know if they are actually in orbit
3. thus, it is possible that when the ship is falling, it IS falling towards the ground because it is 'low enough' in the 'atmosphere' that it all the shit on the ship would be falling in the direction of the planet surface
.....
to me in that sense it's excusable
.....
Sorry, the shots showed it clearly in orbit. If it wasn't in orbit, it would be burning up and crashing to earth. That happened much later. And another thing - remember that General guy? He had actual organs under his metal plates - when he jumped into outer space - they would have exploded.
Sorry, the shots showed it clearly in orbit. If it wasn't in orbit, it would be burning up and crashing to earth. That happened much later. ......
ahhh sh1t i was hoping you wouldn't remember that point
edit: although, one could get into a massive nerd battle here, and we'd have those in the 'it was in orbit' and 'it was not in orbit' camps...
because it depends on the atmospheric conditions and gravity of Coruscant.
just because it starts to burn up later doesn't necessarily mean that it was not already plummeting to the ground ~ it would only start burning up when the atmosphere got denser and as it caught up speed
Sorry, the shots showed it clearly in orbit. If it wasn't in orbit, it would be burning up and crashing to earth. That happened much later. And another thing - remember that General guy? He had actual organs under his metal plates - when he jumped into outer space - they would have exploded.
Not necessarily. They could have been treated somehow to survive in space. And people don't "explode" in space either... though it's not exactly healthy for you. There are lots of space fallacies. Like it's 'cold'. There's nothing in space to transfer heat to. So really you end up getting warmer since your body isn't radiating any of the heat that it's producing. There's other stuff too. I can hunt up some links if anyone is interested.
Not necessarily. They could have been treated somehow to survive in space. And people don't "explode" in space either... though it's not exactly healthy for you. There are lots of space fallacies. Like it's 'cold'. There's nothing in space to transfer heat to. So really you end up getting warmer since your body isn't radiating any of the heat that it's producing. There's other stuff too. I can hunt up some links if anyone is interested.
pyr3 what is your view on whether grevious' ship was in orbit or not? (see my edit above)
goddamn nerds!! don't we have anything better to do...
Wasn't it in the news that one of those was stolen by some teenagers? They were caught b/c they only lived 2 blocks away and people saw them bring it home.
i think this is the stock standard 'inflatable darth vader' burger king thingy they ship around the world, 'coz you're in michigan and i'm in a place called kuala lumpur
f8ck i'd love to f8cking steal it though one day ~ if i had my old college buddies around or something it'd be a fun late night caper
pyr3 what is your view on whether grevious' ship was in orbit or not? (see my edit above)
goddamn nerds!! don't we have anything better to do...
Grevious' ship was probably in a high orbit. Whether or not the planet had enough gravity to pull the ship in from that orbit is another question. I wasn't paying very detailed attention when I saw the movie, but some of the ships thrusters could have malfunctioned, plunging it toward the planet.
I'm not so sure about the ship breaking in half on the way down though. Especially the way that it broke. IIRC when the break happened, the stern section folded downward... away from space. If they were entering orbit at an angle that had the top of the ship facing away from the ground, then the stern should have broken away toward space, not toward the ground.
As far as the gravity thing, if the gravity controls have the power to make all the gravity on the ship go in certain directions, then it's possible that it was just a gravity generator mafunction that changed the direction of gravity. I'm pretty sure that the Star Wars universe has these capabilities... I mean at least in episode 6 and beyond the Empire has Interdicter class starships with gravity wells that can be directed to prevent ships from jumping. I'm sure they probably had most of the tech back in the old Republic times. For onboard gravity. If you really want to be technical... If ships have good enough inertial dampeners to prevent people from liquifying when they jump to lightspeed, you'd think that being hit by enemy fire shouldn't knock them off their feet.
i think this is the stock standard 'inflatable darth vader' burger king thingy they ship around the world, 'coz you're in michigan and i'm in a place called kuala lumpur
f8ck i'd love to f8cking steal it though one day ~ if i had my old college buddies around or something it'd be a fun late night caper
edit: fun late night drunken caper
I didn't mean that specific one... but I heard about a 'Darth Vader inflatable' being stolen on the radio recently. I don't believe it was necessarily in Michigan as opposed to somewhere else.
Query: in Ep2, never really worked out who commissioned all the clones. And who got clones and who got droids. Not really the wiser after Ep3. clones seem to go from bad guys to good guys to bad guys again. Are droids always with bad guys? and who are the separatist fellas? confused.
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Okay, didn't see anyone else answer this: Palpatine commissioned the clones. He said he was someone else, but he set it up. Thus, Palpatine has control of the clones. Whether they are "good" or "bad" depends on how Palpatine is acting. Palpatine started the whole "separatist" uprising as well. He started the whole war so he could step in and assume power with a large army in place to assure the strength of his position. Think Rome.
I didn't mean that specific one... but I heard about a 'Darth Vader inflatable' being stolen on the radio recently. I don't believe it was necessarily in Michigan as opposed to somewhere else.
Wasn't it in the news that one of those was stolen by some teenagers? They were caught b/c they only lived 2 blocks away and people saw them bring it home.
note to self:
i should deflate the Vader before stealing it should i decide to do so
just because it starts to burn up later doesn't necessarily mean that it was not already plummeting to the ground ~ it would only start burning up when the atmosphere got denser and as it caught up speed [/B]
For the sake of galactic peace, I will accept that arguement. (Although there where ships BELOW that seemed to be doing just fine )
[B]Not necessarily. They could have been treated somehow to survive in space. And people don't "explode" in space either... though it's not exactly healthy for you.
Well, no, but his lungs would have collapsed pretty fast.
Speaking of lungs - why does Darth Vador have a resperator? His lungs didn't look like they could have been badly damaged?
Speaking of which, I don't know why Darth was so cocky when he met Obee 1 in a new hope, knowing that last time they met Obee fuckin' P8WNED him.
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And if Vader and the asteroid flight scene are the only worthwhile moments in the whole series for you, why should anyone listen to you?
Originally posted by the cool gut
Well, depending on how big it actually is, it could have enough mass for it's own gravity feild.
However.
Remember in the opening sequence when the ship R2 was on and the ship tipped on it's side? Why in the HELL did everything fall down sideways? The gravity generator should keep everything falling towards the ground, and if it failed, then everything would start floating because they are in outer space. Simply inexcusable dumb filmaking......
well, not as bad as you think.
1. grevious' ship was f8cked. so let's assume the gravity generator went 'offline'
2. the ships were in space, but we don't know if they are actually in orbit
3. thus, it is possible that when the ship is falling, it IS falling towards the ground because it is 'low enough' in the 'atmosphere' that it all the shit on the ship would be falling in the direction of the planet surface
.....
to me in that sense it's excusable
.....
Originally posted by sunilraman
Wasn't it in the news that one of those was stolen by some teenagers? They were caught b/c they only lived 2 blocks away and people saw them bring it home.
Originally posted by sunilraman
well, not as bad as you think.
1. grevious' ship was f8cked. so let's assume the gravity generator went 'offline'
2. the ships were in space, but we don't know if they are actually in orbit
3. thus, it is possible that when the ship is falling, it IS falling towards the ground because it is 'low enough' in the 'atmosphere' that it all the shit on the ship would be falling in the direction of the planet surface
.....
to me in that sense it's excusable
.....
Sorry, the shots showed it clearly in orbit. If it wasn't in orbit, it would be burning up and crashing to earth. That happened much later. And another thing - remember that General guy? He had actual organs under his metal plates - when he jumped into outer space - they would have exploded.
Originally posted by the cool gut
Sorry, the shots showed it clearly in orbit. If it wasn't in orbit, it would be burning up and crashing to earth. That happened much later. ......
ahhh sh1t i was hoping you wouldn't remember that point
edit: although, one could get into a massive nerd battle here, and we'd have those in the 'it was in orbit' and 'it was not in orbit' camps...
because it depends on the atmospheric conditions and gravity of Coruscant.
just because it starts to burn up later doesn't necessarily mean that it was not already plummeting to the ground ~ it would only start burning up when the atmosphere got denser and as it caught up speed
Originally posted by the cool gut
Sorry, the shots showed it clearly in orbit. If it wasn't in orbit, it would be burning up and crashing to earth. That happened much later. And another thing - remember that General guy? He had actual organs under his metal plates - when he jumped into outer space - they would have exploded.
Not necessarily. They could have been treated somehow to survive in space. And people don't "explode" in space either... though it's not exactly healthy for you. There are lots of space fallacies. Like it's 'cold'. There's nothing in space to transfer heat to. So really you end up getting warmer since your body isn't radiating any of the heat that it's producing. There's other stuff too. I can hunt up some links if anyone is interested.
Originally posted by pyr3
Not necessarily. They could have been treated somehow to survive in space. And people don't "explode" in space either... though it's not exactly healthy for you. There are lots of space fallacies. Like it's 'cold'. There's nothing in space to transfer heat to. So really you end up getting warmer since your body isn't radiating any of the heat that it's producing. There's other stuff too. I can hunt up some links if anyone is interested.
pyr3 what is your view on whether grevious' ship was in orbit or not? (see my edit above)
goddamn nerds!!
Originally posted by pyr3
Wasn't it in the news that one of those was stolen by some teenagers? They were caught b/c they only lived 2 blocks away and people saw them bring it home.
i think this is the stock standard 'inflatable darth vader' burger king thingy they ship around the world, 'coz you're in michigan and i'm in a place called kuala lumpur
f8ck i'd love to f8cking steal it though one day ~ if i had my old college buddies around or something it'd be a fun late night caper
edit: fun late night drunken caper
Originally posted by sunilraman
pyr3 what is your view on whether grevious' ship was in orbit or not? (see my edit above)
goddamn nerds!!
Grevious' ship was probably in a high orbit. Whether or not the planet had enough gravity to pull the ship in from that orbit is another question. I wasn't paying very detailed attention when I saw the movie, but some of the ships thrusters could have malfunctioned, plunging it toward the planet.
I'm not so sure about the ship breaking in half on the way down though. Especially the way that it broke. IIRC when the break happened, the stern section folded downward... away from space. If they were entering orbit at an angle that had the top of the ship facing away from the ground, then the stern should have broken away toward space, not toward the ground.
As far as the gravity thing, if the gravity controls have the power to make all the gravity on the ship go in certain directions, then it's possible that it was just a gravity generator mafunction that changed the direction of gravity. I'm pretty sure that the Star Wars universe has these capabilities... I mean at least in episode 6 and beyond the Empire has Interdicter class starships with gravity wells that can be directed to prevent ships from jumping. I'm sure they probably had most of the tech back in the old Republic times. For onboard gravity. If you really want to be technical... If ships have good enough inertial dampeners to prevent people from liquifying when they jump to lightspeed, you'd think that being hit by enemy fire shouldn't knock them off their feet.
i think this is the stock standard 'inflatable darth vader' burger king thingy they ship around the world, 'coz you're in michigan and i'm in a place called kuala lumpur
f8ck i'd love to f8cking steal it though one day ~ if i had my old college buddies around or something it'd be a fun late night caper
edit: fun late night drunken caper
I didn't mean that specific one... but I heard about a 'Darth Vader inflatable' being stolen on the radio recently. I don't believe it was necessarily in Michigan as opposed to somewhere else.
Originally posted by brandnewfatboy
Query: in Ep2, never really worked out who commissioned all the clones. And who got clones and who got droids. Not really the wiser after Ep3. clones seem to go from bad guys to good guys to bad guys again. Are droids always with bad guys? and who are the separatist fellas? confused.
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Okay, didn't see anyone else answer this: Palpatine commissioned the clones. He said he was someone else, but he set it up. Thus, Palpatine has control of the clones. Whether they are "good" or "bad" depends on how Palpatine is acting. Palpatine started the whole "separatist" uprising as well. He started the whole war so he could step in and assume power with a large army in place to assure the strength of his position. Think Rome.
Originally posted by Fangorn
Think Rome.
Think the United- oh dear. We aren't in AO/PO...I'm sorry.
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
Actually, if I remember correctly Lucas did design vader.
Well, he "commissioned" people to design the various things anyway.
Ralph McQuarrie essentially defined Vader:
http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/S...y/u16l5s5b.jpg
I wish E3 Vader actually had this more primitive look. It'd fit the prequel look 'n' feel so well.
Oh well!
Originally posted by pyr3
Not necessarily. They could have been treated somehow to survive in space. And people don't "explode" in space either...
Well don't they de-pressurize rapidly? Just like how certain sea creatures expand (fatally, even messily) when brought up from the vast depths?
Originally posted by pyr3
sunilraman:
I didn't mean that specific one... but I heard about a 'Darth Vader inflatable' being stolen on the radio recently. I don't believe it was necessarily in Michigan as opposed to somewhere else.
oh okay... i understand now
damn i got to get me an inflatable vader
Originally posted by johnq
Well, he "commissioned" people to design the various things anyway.
Ralph McQuarrie essentially defined Vader:
http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/S...y/u16l5s5b.jpg
I wish E3 Vader actually had this more primitive look. It'd fit the prequel look 'n' feel so well.
Oh well!
i agree... also a bit of echoes of grievious with the slightly more elongated face
Originally posted by pyr3
Wasn't it in the news that one of those was stolen by some teenagers? They were caught b/c they only lived 2 blocks away and people saw them bring it home.
note to self:
i should deflate the Vader before stealing it should i decide to do so
Originally posted by sunilraman
just because it starts to burn up later doesn't necessarily mean that it was not already plummeting to the ground ~ it would only start burning up when the atmosphere got denser and as it caught up speed
For the sake of galactic peace, I will accept that arguement. (Although there where ships BELOW that seemed to be doing just fine
Originally posted by pyr3
[B]Not necessarily. They could have been treated somehow to survive in space. And people don't "explode" in space either... though it's not exactly healthy for you.
Well, no, but his lungs would have collapsed pretty fast.
Speaking of lungs - why does Darth Vador have a resperator? His lungs didn't look like they could have been badly damaged?
Speaking of which, I don't know why Darth was so cocky when he met Obee 1 in a new hope, knowing that last time they met Obee fuckin' P8WNED him.