Notice all of the above aren't the cheapest, yet have been able to garner the majority of marketshare in the digital music and gaming industries respectively. Price is NOT the end all beat all.
Was "Betamax" supposed to stop Telomar's agrument in its tracks? We've already shown why history in regards to BetaMax has no bearing on the format war as it currently stands. Blu-ray is not just Sony. It is the majority of the consumer electronics companies (Panasonic, Philips, TDK, Samsung, etc) and computer companies (Dell, HP, and Apple). Betamax made its destiny when there was no profit sharing in place. The same doesn't go for Blu-ray, most involved in the BDA will be getting a cut of royalties. Moreover, all of Hollywood is Blu-ray, with the exception of Universal.
Also, here is some interesting news...
Quote:
Sony and NEC to combine optical businesses: victory for Blu-ray?
Posted Feb 27th 2006 10:44AM by Marc Perton
Filed under: HDTV, Home Entertainment
In a move that could have long-reaching consequences for next-gen video and data-storage technologies, Sony and NEC have established a joint venture merging their optical drive businesses. The joint venture was first proposed last November, and is expected to begin business by April 1. While JVs between competitors are not unheard-of, what makes this one particularly unusual is that Sony is, of course, one of the leaders of the Blu-ray group, while NEC sits squarely in the HD DVD camp. The two companies have made no announcements as to what kind of optical drives the new company -- to be known as Sony NEC Optiarc -- will make, but here's one clue: Sony will have a 55% stake in the $1.9 billion company, and it will be managed by one of Sony's execs. Looks to us like Optiarc is going to be a very Blu company, leaving the HD DVD group with one less key supplier of hardware.
Funny you raise that given outside of licensing one of the big causes of Betamax's defeat was recording time, where it trailed VHS significantly. Hmm what other format trails a competitor in recording time... Mind you in the case of Betamax it wasn't even long enough for a feature film originally. HD-DVD will fit that at least.
No, it wsn't meant to stop this debate dead in its tracks. I think we all know that that's impossible.
Telomar pointed out that early-adopters and the quality-driven do not shop at Sprawl*Mart. Betamax had the same two things going for it and it lost the format war anyway. (Although I was unaware that Betamax was initially too short for feature films so thanks for enlightening me.)
As was just pointed out, it all came down to who got what money. What I intend to say is that marketing will determine the ultimate victor this time as well.
My original point was that whichever CONTENT (sorry I wasn't clear about that before) is cheaper to Sprawl*Mart will be the one they stock and make readily available to the nation's average consumer. People like my father-in-law, neighbor, etc will be buying whatever Wal*Mart has. (Presuming they're even interested in HD. After all, these are the same people that are frustrated when they accidentally buy a wide-screen DVD.)
The rest of the world will get to make up their own mind of course, but the content providers would probably not mind going back to the good ole' days when technical media differences helped them control international distribution.
Naturally there is also the possibility that Wal*Mart will choose to stock both types, in which case it's all up in the air again. Weeee... round and round we go.
btw, I'd like Blu-Ray to win as well, I just want to point out that the best product doesn't always achieve market dominance. Perhaps it would have been better to use Apple and Microsoft as examples. Unfortunately if one of the HD media falls to Apple's marketshare it probably will not be able to stick around like our favorite fruit company.
Much has been made of Sony including Blu-Ray in its PS3 game machine. I'm not sure if Sony has announced a ship date for the PS3, but Costco is listing a November 2006 date. The article doesn't say if that's when Sony will release it or whether that will be when Costco feels there's an adequate supply available to start selling it.
Much has been made of Sony including Blu-Ray in its PS3 game machine. I'm not sure if Sony has announced a ship date for the PS3, but Costco is listing a November 2006 date. The article doesn't say if that's when Sony will release it or whether that will be when Costco feels there's an adequate supply available to start selling it.
A quote on interest from Phil Schiller I thought was this...
"We're not trying to replace the TiVo," he says. "This is about taking the media from your computer and accessing it via the TV."
What do think the chances are, in the next mac mini revision, having mandatory managed copies of movies on your hard drive via from a Blu-ray drive? Sounds pretty posible given the above quote! Given, I know it will probably be for those videos downloaded from iTunes, but to have this functionality would be awesome, not to mention giving your discs you purchased a break. Anyhow, just some thoughts.
Hmmm. Good find! It appears Costco took down whatever they had, which makes this even more interesting.
Doesn't really mean anything. Games are routinely listed at EB Games or other stores with a "tentative" release date. It is basically what the store thinks will happen. Hell, I remember this happened with Warcraft 3, stores listed dates that were WAY wrong, because they basically just guessed, or were handed bad info from the supplier. This take down could very much just mean that Costco realized they had NO evidence as to when the PS3 was going to be released, and rather than post some date, they post nothing.
I have seen launch dates for the PS3 everywhere from Spring of 2006, to Summer of 2006, to Winter of 2006, to even Spring of 2007! Don't take what one store says, and wait until Sony makes a firm announcement (rather than this cute dance they are doing now...)
I agree that posted availability date can change, but one good thing is that pricing is usually pretty accurate, especially the information coming from Costco. From what's said on the website, $489 for PS3 premium package sounds like a great news. Maybe, I'll be a BR-DVD early adaptor afterall at that price. Hope sony doesn't go too cheap on the scaler/deinterlacer for video playback.
I agree that posted availability date can change, but one good thing is that pricing is usually pretty accurate, especially the information coming from Costco. From what's said on the website, $489 for PS3 premium package sounds like a great news. Maybe, I'll be a BR-DVD early adaptor afterall at that price. Hope sony doesn't go too cheap on the scaler/deinterlacer for video playback.
Huh? From the quote article:
Quote:
Costco listed the console specs and promotional information apparently provided by Sony. It didn't list a price and it wasn't taking pre-orders yet
An interesting point I found and a lot of people have been up in arms about this was...
At this time Sony has no immediate plans to implement the Image Constraint Token (ICT). The ICT is the part of the AACS copy protection scheme (used in both Blu-ray and HD DVD) that forces the player to down-rez its analog component video output from the disc's 1920x1080 high definition resolution to 960x540p. The result: you will get high definition only from the player's digital video output (HDMI or DVI). Early HDTV adopters of component only sets would then be limited to standard definition 540p from their fancy new players.
But all of these early Sony and MGM titles will produce full high definition from both the analog component and digital video outputs of a Blu-ray player. Whether or not to turn on the ICT, however, will rest with each studio and may be done on a title-by-title basis. How other studios will implement this feature in their releases remains to be seen.
An interesting point I found and a lot of people have been up in arms about this was...
At this time Sony has no immediate plans to implement the Image Constraint Token (ICT).
That is good news! I think that the studios will find that movies which implement ICT will not sell very well - the bulk of their potential customers have analog HDTVs (including most projector based home theaters).
Also, the article mentions that you really have to try hard to tell the difference between blu-ray and the 400mb/s master on a 23' screen. After this format is adopted, I doubt that consumers will ever be willing to move to a different format - there just will be no difference large enough to justify re-purchasing their movie collection again.
It would be interesting to put HD-DVD up against blu-ray on that same projection rig. People are noticing more artifacts with MPEG-4 with the new DirectTv receivers, and that is with normal sized TVs - on a 23' screen those artifacts should make HD-DVD look pretty crappy compared to Blu-ray.
That is good news! I think that the studios will find that movies which implement ICT will not sell very well - the bulk of their potential customers have analog HDTVs (including most projector based home theaters).
I tend to agree, although most consumers are ignoramuses and will eat whatever they're fed. Then again, I'd hope most early adopters are a little smarter.
Ether way, people are starting to realize that DRM is bad. If the studios release encumbered discs I hope people will realize and stay away while they can.
screen those artifacts should make HD-DVD look pretty crappy compared to Blu-ray.
AVC h.264 is an addendum to MPEG4. Because DirecTV's MPEG4 sucks doesn't mean AVC will. In fact Apple never delivered a good MPEG4 but their h.264 AVC looks great.
In many markets you can go in and see HD DVD playing now. Here in Seattle a few retail chains have them playing trailers. The consensus is that King Kong looks VERY GOOD and some other trailers. I've been saying forever that there will be no quality difference between HD DVD and Blu Ray and the trailers bear this out. The differences will come from the mastering prowess of the studio.
It would be interesting to put HD-DVD up against blu-ray on that same projection rig. People are noticing more artifacts with MPEG-4 with the new DirectTv receivers, and that is with normal sized TVs - on a 23' screen those artifacts should make HD-DVD look pretty crappy compared to Blu-ray.
Directv's still trying to fix and testing the mpeg4 broadcast. Some of the screen artifacts are not tide to mpeg2 or mpeg4. It's Directv introducing crap. Actually, on my set, only Fox mpeg4 looks bad, but other local channels looks as good as mpeg2. MPEG4 broadcasting over Directv still has problem with dolby 5.1 over optic cable. Sometimes sound comes and goes... or pops........ Directv mpeg4 seems to be still in a beta testing phase....... but they recently added TNT to HD mix.
I did go see the HD-DVD Roadshow at Fry's in Renton WA. They had a 65" Toshiba RTPV hooked up to a nice surround sound system. My thoughts on the video.
1st Trailer- Willy Wonka good quality and colors. The video had a sort of texture to it that was probably from the film grain they used. I saw VERY little compression artifacts.
2nd Trailer -Dukes of Hazzard. They shouldn't have used this movie as a demo. It's not a bad encoding but the movie itself just isn't filmed in a way that highlights the sharpness and resolution. It's unspectacular in color as well.
3rd Trailer- The Corpse Bride- Great video...great contrast and sharp edges. My second favorite Trailer.
4th Trailer- King Kong...everything you read is true. This movie is sharp, the contrast is damn near perfect and skin tones look great. I swear the wounds on King Kong looked more real than what I saw in the theater.
Folks HD is here...and it looks GOOOOOOOOOD. I expect Blu Ray to look equally as good and that bodes well for all of us. Man I can't look at my Comcast HD the same now that I've seen HD with fast moving scenes with little artifacting if any at all.
You'll be impressed when you see a good demo. Trust me.
I did go see the HD-DVD Roadshow at Fry's in Renton WA. They had a 65" Toshiba RTPV hooked up to a nice surround sound system. My thoughts on the video.
1st Trailer- Willy Wonka good quality and colors. The video had a sort of texture to it that was probably from the film grain they used. I saw VERY little compression artifacts.
2nd Trailer -Dukes of Hazzard. They shouldn't have used this movie as a demo. It's not a bad encoding but the movie itself just isn't filmed in a way that highlights the sharpness and resolution. It's unspectacular in color as well.
3rd Trailer- The Corpse Bride- Great video...great contrast and sharp edges. My second favorite Trailer.
4th Trailer- King Kong...everything you read is true. This movie is sharp, the contrast is damn near perfect and skin tones look great. I swear the wounds on King Kong looked more real than what I saw in the theater.
Folks HD is here...and it looks GOOOOOOOOOD. I expect Blu Ray to look equally as good and that bodes well for all of us. Man I can't look at my Comcast HD the same now that I've seen HD with fast moving scenes with little artifacting if any at all.
You'll be impressed when you see a good demo. Trust me.
Hm... all fry's have this demo or only the selective ones...? I was at Fry's last weekend, and I didn't see anything special...... Would you happen to have a website that indicates HD-DVD events?..
Comments
Originally posted by Telomar
Unlikely. Early adopters don't tend to shop at Walmart, nor do the quality driven.
Betamax
Originally posted by Guartho
Betamax
iPod
PS1
PS2
Notice all of the above aren't the cheapest, yet have been able to garner the majority of marketshare in the digital music and gaming industries respectively. Price is NOT the end all beat all.
Was "Betamax" supposed to stop Telomar's agrument in its tracks? We've already shown why history in regards to BetaMax has no bearing on the format war as it currently stands. Blu-ray is not just Sony. It is the majority of the consumer electronics companies (Panasonic, Philips, TDK, Samsung, etc) and computer companies (Dell, HP, and Apple). Betamax made its destiny when there was no profit sharing in place. The same doesn't go for Blu-ray, most involved in the BDA will be getting a cut of royalties. Moreover, all of Hollywood is Blu-ray, with the exception of Universal.
Also, here is some interesting news...
Sony and NEC to combine optical businesses: victory for Blu-ray?
Posted Feb 27th 2006 10:44AM by Marc Perton
Filed under: HDTV, Home Entertainment
In a move that could have long-reaching consequences for next-gen video and data-storage technologies, Sony and NEC have established a joint venture merging their optical drive businesses. The joint venture was first proposed last November, and is expected to begin business by April 1. While JVs between competitors are not unheard-of, what makes this one particularly unusual is that Sony is, of course, one of the leaders of the Blu-ray group, while NEC sits squarely in the HD DVD camp. The two companies have made no announcements as to what kind of optical drives the new company -- to be known as Sony NEC Optiarc -- will make, but here's one clue: Sony will have a 55% stake in the $1.9 billion company, and it will be managed by one of Sony's execs. Looks to us like Optiarc is going to be a very Blu company, leaving the HD DVD group with one less key supplier of hardware.
Also, looks like Blu-ray will be here May 23rd...
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4307051&EDATE=
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4307028&EDATE=
Originally posted by Guartho
Betamax
Funny you raise that given outside of licensing one of the big causes of Betamax's defeat was recording time, where it trailed VHS significantly. Hmm what other format trails a competitor in recording time...
Telomar pointed out that early-adopters and the quality-driven do not shop at Sprawl*Mart. Betamax had the same two things going for it and it lost the format war anyway. (Although I was unaware that Betamax was initially too short for feature films so thanks for enlightening me.)
As was just pointed out, it all came down to who got what money. What I intend to say is that marketing will determine the ultimate victor this time as well.
My original point was that whichever CONTENT (sorry I wasn't clear about that before) is cheaper to Sprawl*Mart will be the one they stock and make readily available to the nation's average consumer. People like my father-in-law, neighbor, etc will be buying whatever Wal*Mart has. (Presuming they're even interested in HD. After all, these are the same people that are frustrated when they accidentally buy a wide-screen DVD.)
The rest of the world will get to make up their own mind of course, but the content providers would probably not mind going back to the good ole' days when technical media differences helped them control international distribution.
Naturally there is also the possibility that Wal*Mart will choose to stock both types, in which case it's all up in the air again. Weeee... round and round we go.
btw, I'd like Blu-Ray to win as well, I just want to point out that the best product doesn't always achieve market dominance. Perhaps it would have been better to use Apple and Microsoft as examples. Unfortunately if one of the HD media falls to Apple's marketshare it probably will not be able to stick around like our favorite fruit company.
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.co...ex.html#009329
Originally posted by OldCodger73
Much has been made of Sony including Blu-Ray in its PS3 game machine. I'm not sure if Sony has announced a ship date for the PS3, but Costco is listing a November 2006 date. The article doesn't say if that's when Sony will release it or whether that will be when Costco feels there's an adequate supply available to start selling it.
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.co...ex.html#009329
Hmmm. Good find! It appears Costco took down whatever they had, which makes this even more interesting.
On another note, I read this article here...
http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/cP...ing-Room.xhtml
A quote on interest from Phil Schiller I thought was this...
"We're not trying to replace the TiVo," he says. "This is about taking the media from your computer and accessing it via the TV."
What do think the chances are, in the next mac mini revision, having mandatory managed copies of movies on your hard drive via from a Blu-ray drive? Sounds pretty posible given the above quote! Given, I know it will probably be for those videos downloaded from iTunes, but to have this functionality would be awesome, not to mention giving your discs you purchased a break. Anyhow, just some thoughts.
Originally posted by marzetta7
Hmmm. Good find! It appears Costco took down whatever they had, which makes this even more interesting.
Doesn't really mean anything. Games are routinely listed at EB Games or other stores with a "tentative" release date. It is basically what the store thinks will happen. Hell, I remember this happened with Warcraft 3, stores listed dates that were WAY wrong, because they basically just guessed, or were handed bad info from the supplier. This take down could very much just mean that Costco realized they had NO evidence as to when the PS3 was going to be released, and rather than post some date, they post nothing.
I have seen launch dates for the PS3 everywhere from Spring of 2006, to Summer of 2006, to Winter of 2006, to even Spring of 2007! Don't take what one store says, and wait until Sony makes a firm announcement (rather than this cute dance they are doing now...)
Originally posted by bitemymac
I agree that posted availability date can change, but one good thing is that pricing is usually pretty accurate, especially the information coming from Costco. From what's said on the website, $489 for PS3 premium package sounds like a great news. Maybe, I'll be a BR-DVD early adaptor afterall at that price. Hope sony doesn't go too cheap on the scaler/deinterlacer for video playback.
Huh? From the quote article:
Costco listed the console specs and promotional information apparently provided by Sony. It didn't list a price and it wasn't taking pre-orders yet
So where did you get that price from?
Originally posted by kupan787
Huh? From the quote article:
So where did you get that price from?
oops...i must've misread. the quoted price is for x360 instead.
http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/thomasnorton/
An interesting point I found and a lot of people have been up in arms about this was...
At this time Sony has no immediate plans to implement the Image Constraint Token (ICT). The ICT is the part of the AACS copy protection scheme (used in both Blu-ray and HD DVD) that forces the player to down-rez its analog component video output from the disc's 1920x1080 high definition resolution to 960x540p. The result: you will get high definition only from the player's digital video output (HDMI or DVI). Early HDTV adopters of component only sets would then be limited to standard definition 540p from their fancy new players.
But all of these early Sony and MGM titles will produce full high definition from both the analog component and digital video outputs of a Blu-ray player. Whether or not to turn on the ICT, however, will rest with each studio and may be done on a title-by-title basis. How other studios will implement this feature in their releases remains to be seen.
Full Specs are:
- Intel Core processor T2500 (2GHz, 667MHz FSB, 2MB 2nd level cache)
- Intel PRO Wireless Network Connection 802.11 a/b/g
- Intel 945PM Express Chipset family
- Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 with update rollup 2
- Microsoft Windows Media Center Edition and QosmioPlayer Remote control and IR receiver
- 1GB DDR2 memory (expandable to 4GB2)
- Dual hard disk drive support 2x120GB with Toshiba software RAID capabilities
- QosmioPlayer and QosmioEngine
- Toshiba TruBrite 17.0 inch WUXGAdisplay, (1920 x 1200 resolution) supporting 1080p signal format
- NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 PCI Express graphics processing unit with 256MB VRAM
- 30mm Harman Kardon stereo speakers with Bass reflection technology, 1bit digital amplifier
- Dolby Home Theater with Dolby Virtual speaker and Dolby headphone support incl. Dolby Pro Logic II decoding
- HD-DVD-ROM and DVD Super Multi-Drive (Double Layer)
- Integrated i.Link (IEEE 1394) port, consumer infrared port
- Integrated hybrid digital and analog (DVB-T) TV-Tuner with MPEG2 hardware encoder
- Integrated V.92 modem and 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet port
- 4 x USB2.0 ports, 1 x PCMCIA Card Type II, 1 x ExpressCard, 6-in-1 Bridge Media Adapter (SD/MMC/XD/ MemoryStick/MemoryStick Pro/ mini SD card)
- SPDIF, S Video-in/out, monitor in, RGB port, HDMI out
- Integrated Bluetooth? v2.0 + EDR
- Microsoft Office OneNote 2003, Toshiba Picture Enhancement utility, Adobe Acrobat Reader, InterVideo WinDVD, InterVideo WinDVD Creator 2 Platinum, Sonic RecordNow!, ConfigFree connectivity software, Norton Internet Security 2004 (90-day trial version) Microsoft Works 8.5
Originally posted by marzetta7
Blu-ray Demo Report. Worth a good read.
http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/thomasnorton/
An interesting point I found and a lot of people have been up in arms about this was...
At this time Sony has no immediate plans to implement the Image Constraint Token (ICT).
That is good news! I think that the studios will find that movies which implement ICT will not sell very well - the bulk of their potential customers have analog HDTVs (including most projector based home theaters).
Also, the article mentions that you really have to try hard to tell the difference between blu-ray and the 400mb/s master on a 23' screen. After this format is adopted, I doubt that consumers will ever be willing to move to a different format - there just will be no difference large enough to justify re-purchasing their movie collection again.
It would be interesting to put HD-DVD up against blu-ray on that same projection rig. People are noticing more artifacts with MPEG-4 with the new DirectTv receivers, and that is with normal sized TVs - on a 23' screen those artifacts should make HD-DVD look pretty crappy compared to Blu-ray.
Originally posted by e1618978
That is good news! I think that the studios will find that movies which implement ICT will not sell very well - the bulk of their potential customers have analog HDTVs (including most projector based home theaters).
I tend to agree, although most consumers are ignoramuses and will eat whatever they're fed. Then again, I'd hope most early adopters are a little smarter.
Ether way, people are starting to realize that DRM is bad. If the studios release encumbered discs I hope people will realize and stay away while they can.
screen those artifacts should make HD-DVD look pretty crappy compared to Blu-ray.
AVC h.264 is an addendum to MPEG4. Because DirecTV's MPEG4 sucks doesn't mean AVC will. In fact Apple never delivered a good MPEG4 but their h.264 AVC looks great.
In many markets you can go in and see HD DVD playing now. Here in Seattle a few retail chains have them playing trailers. The consensus is that King Kong looks VERY GOOD and some other trailers. I've been saying forever that there will be no quality difference between HD DVD and Blu Ray and the trailers bear this out. The differences will come from the mastering prowess of the studio.
Originally posted by e1618978
It would be interesting to put HD-DVD up against blu-ray on that same projection rig. People are noticing more artifacts with MPEG-4 with the new DirectTv receivers, and that is with normal sized TVs - on a 23' screen those artifacts should make HD-DVD look pretty crappy compared to Blu-ray.
Directv's still trying to fix and testing the mpeg4 broadcast. Some of the screen artifacts are not tide to mpeg2 or mpeg4. It's Directv introducing crap. Actually, on my set, only Fox mpeg4 looks bad, but other local channels looks as good as mpeg2. MPEG4 broadcasting over Directv still has problem with dolby 5.1 over optic cable. Sometimes sound comes and goes... or pops........ Directv mpeg4 seems to be still in a beta testing phase....... but they recently added TNT to HD mix.
Originally posted by hmurchison
Toshiba announces Qosmio HD-DVD laptop
Full Specs are:
- Intel Core processor T2500 (2GHz, 667MHz FSB, 2MB 2nd level cache)
- Intel PRO Wireless Network Connection 802.11 a/b/g
- Intel 945PM Express Chipset family
- Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 with update rollup 2
- Microsoft Windows Media Center Edition and QosmioPlayer Remote control and IR receiver
- 1GB DDR2 memory (expandable to 4GB2)
- Dual hard disk drive support 2x120GB with Toshiba software RAID capabilities
- QosmioPlayer and QosmioEngine
- Toshiba TruBrite 17.0 inch WUXGAdisplay, (1920 x 1200 resolution) supporting 1080p signal format
- NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 PCI Express graphics processing unit with 256MB VRAM
- 30mm Harman Kardon stereo speakers with Bass reflection technology, 1bit digital amplifier
- Dolby Home Theater with Dolby Virtual speaker and Dolby headphone support incl. Dolby Pro Logic II decoding
- HD-DVD-ROM and DVD Super Multi-Drive (Double Layer)
- Integrated i.Link (IEEE 1394) port, consumer infrared port
- Integrated hybrid digital and analog (DVB-T) TV-Tuner with MPEG2 hardware encoder
- Integrated V.92 modem and 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet port
- 4 x USB2.0 ports, 1 x PCMCIA Card Type II, 1 x ExpressCard, 6-in-1 Bridge Media Adapter (SD/MMC/XD/ MemoryStick/MemoryStick Pro/ mini SD card)
- SPDIF, S Video-in/out, monitor in, RGB port, HDMI out
- Integrated Bluetooth? v2.0 + EDR
- Microsoft Office OneNote 2003, Toshiba Picture Enhancement utility, Adobe Acrobat Reader, InterVideo WinDVD, InterVideo WinDVD Creator 2 Platinum, Sonic RecordNow!, ConfigFree connectivity software, Norton Internet Security 2004 (90-day trial version) Microsoft Works 8.5
hm... no HDCP?.... So no HD-DVD playback in HD?
Originally posted by bitemymac
hm... no HDCP?.... So no HD-DVD playback in HD?
I haven't been able to confirm that yet.
I did go see the HD-DVD Roadshow at Fry's in Renton WA. They had a 65" Toshiba RTPV hooked up to a nice surround sound system. My thoughts on the video.
1st Trailer- Willy Wonka good quality and colors. The video had a sort of texture to it that was probably from the film grain they used. I saw VERY little compression artifacts.
2nd Trailer -Dukes of Hazzard. They shouldn't have used this movie as a demo. It's not a bad encoding but the movie itself just isn't filmed in a way that highlights the sharpness and resolution. It's unspectacular in color as well.
3rd Trailer- The Corpse Bride- Great video...great contrast and sharp edges. My second favorite Trailer.
4th Trailer- King Kong...everything you read is true. This movie is sharp, the contrast is damn near perfect and skin tones look great. I swear the wounds on King Kong looked more real than what I saw in the theater.
Folks HD is here...and it looks GOOOOOOOOOD. I expect Blu Ray to look equally as good and that bodes well for all of us. Man I can't look at my Comcast HD the same now that I've seen HD with fast moving scenes with little artifacting if any at all.
You'll be impressed when you see a good demo. Trust me.
This means 3 companies have moved from exclusive Bluray support to neutral.
HP
LG
and now Fujitsu.
Originally posted by hmurchison
I haven't been able to confirm that yet.
I did go see the HD-DVD Roadshow at Fry's in Renton WA. They had a 65" Toshiba RTPV hooked up to a nice surround sound system. My thoughts on the video.
1st Trailer- Willy Wonka good quality and colors. The video had a sort of texture to it that was probably from the film grain they used. I saw VERY little compression artifacts.
2nd Trailer -Dukes of Hazzard. They shouldn't have used this movie as a demo. It's not a bad encoding but the movie itself just isn't filmed in a way that highlights the sharpness and resolution. It's unspectacular in color as well.
3rd Trailer- The Corpse Bride- Great video...great contrast and sharp edges. My second favorite Trailer.
4th Trailer- King Kong...everything you read is true. This movie is sharp, the contrast is damn near perfect and skin tones look great. I swear the wounds on King Kong looked more real than what I saw in the theater.
Folks HD is here...and it looks GOOOOOOOOOD. I expect Blu Ray to look equally as good and that bodes well for all of us. Man I can't look at my Comcast HD the same now that I've seen HD with fast moving scenes with little artifacting if any at all.
You'll be impressed when you see a good demo. Trust me.
Hm... all fry's have this demo or only the selective ones...? I was at Fry's last weekend, and I didn't see anything special...... Would you happen to have a website that indicates HD-DVD events?..
TIA