Umm Sony doesn't own blu-ray. That's FUD#4 on some list right next to Blu-ray isn't a Sony proprietary format.
There's nothing stopping Adult media on BR, and from indication, they will be...yes...HD porn...man's strive to get a more realistic experiance that is in the realm of fantasy...
True. Blu-ray detractors always seem to fixate on Sony. Sony helped develop the format, but it was only one of nine founders of the Blu-ray Disc Association, which is what's in charge of licensing. And the BDA board of directors is now 18 strong, with Sony only one voice out of those 18.
To be neutural, Sony I believe did(still does?) have the sole software to master a Blu-ray disc.
This does not mean they'll withhold it to anyone wanting to buy it though. It used to be quite expensive, but then like everything BR was expensive back then.
Today though I believe serveral companies are selling or finalizing their own mastering systems for BR, so it's a non issue.
And BR scheme is pretty much the same as the DVD scheme. So anyone that wants to do BR can do BR if you fork over the price.
BR is pretty much a hands off with a dose of politics. Some people just want to hate sony...because it's sony?
It started out as a Sony optical format holding 23Gb and has been around for years in Japan.
Sony replicates the movies and spearheads the development. If it looks like a duck...and quacks like a duck. Guess what?
Emm...sorry that's wrong.
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The "Blu Ray Disc Association was found in 2002 by nine leading electronic companies like: Matsushita, Pioneer, Phlilps, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, Samsung and Sony as contrast to the DVD-Forum. In 2002 the companies were called the "Founders" of the Blu-Ray Disc and later changed their name to "Blu Ray Association" in order to achieve more companies joining their development.
Professional Disc for DATA (PDD or ProDATA) is a recordable optical disc format which was introduced by Sony in 2003. It was one of the first two formats (along with Ultra Density Optical) to utilize blue-violet lasers for reading and writing, which allowed for much higher density data to be stored on optical media compared to the higher wavelength infrared laser technology used in the CD and red laser technology used in the DVD format.
Which is what is based on BR (note circa 2002)
BR =2002 PDD= 2003
Oh yes and to answer your question. Swans and geeses also quack, and are close relatives of the duck but not a duck.
So, you sir, are a quack. Quack.
By your own arguement, Sony shouldn't even want to be in the same room as BR since their own format PDD is in direct competition to it. So tell me which format is PS3 using right now?
Oh yes and to answer your question. Swans and geeses also quack, and are close relatives of the duck but not a duck.
So, you sir, are a quack. Quack.
By your own arguement, Sony shouldn't even want to be in the same room as BR since their own format PDD is in direct competition to it. So tell me which format is PS3 using right now?
Priceless. LOL. Good post, and thank you for sticking to the facts.
PDD uses a 405nm wavelength and a numerical aperture (NA) of 0.85 for the laser, allowing 23GB of data to be stored on one 12cm disc - the equivalent to nearly five single-layer DVDs, and a 1x data transfer rate of 88Mbit/s for reading and 72 Mbit/s for writing. Plans have also been made to introduce dual-layer 50 GB and quad-layer 100 GB discs in the future.
Confusingly, this all sounds very similar to the Blu-ray Disc format, another optical disc format using blue-violet lasers which is also supported by Sony. Even the PDD's caddie and Blu-Ray's prototype caddie (later it was dropped) look very similar between the two formats. The only apparent difference is that single-layer PDD discs have a capacity of 23 GB whereas Blu-rays can store 25 GB. However, Blu-ray Discs only currently allow a 1x data transfer rate of 36 Mbit/s - much lower than PDD. This is because PDD discs use much higher quality media and drives use higher quality components, making them prohibitively expensive for the average consumer segment Blu-ray Disc is aimed at.
Just as I've stated. Sony took PDD modified it a bit and voila. Blu-Ray. Blu-ray is a Sony creation in which others have hopped on the the bandwagon.
"I think Sony shot themselves in the foot [with the PS3]… there is a high probability [they] will fail. The price point is probably unsustainable. For years and years Sony has been a very difficult company to deal with from a developer standpoint. They could get away with their arrogance and capriciousness because they had an installed base. They have also historically had horrible software tools. You compare that to the Xbox 360 with really great authoring tools [and] additional revenue streams from Xbox live… a first party developer would be an idiot to develop for Sony first and not the 360. People don’t buy hardware, they buy software."
If Bushell is so smart, why isn't there an Atari console competing with PS3 and XBox?
come on now if you actualy looked up some history you would know why atari failed... nolan founded atari, he left after disputes before the company even went big.
bushell is a pretty smart man, he founded Chuck E. Cheese for god sakes.
you do realize steve jobs and wozniack worked for him before starting apple in the garage right?
The bolded parts simply indicate that they are similar. Which would hold if PPD is derived from Blu-Ray or vice versa.
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Just as I've stated. Sony took PDD modified it a bit and voila. Blu-Ray. Blu-ray is a Sony creation in which others have hopped on the the bandwagon.
If the article is correct then the formation of Blu-Ray preceeded PDD. UDO also uses 0.85 aperture blue-violet laser. Of course its very different from PPD and Blu-Ray.
Here's a source that states the PDD is based on Blu-Ray technology:
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Sony's latest effort leverages its BlueRay technology for creating disks in the consumer market to manufacture its so-called Professional Disc for Data (PDD) for high-end storage applications. The company is going after the archive market for document and medical imaging, e-mail, multimedia projects, graphics design, audio/video editing and broadcasting.
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Wolfgang Schlichting, research director at International Data Corp. in Framingham, Mass., said both technologies have their pros and cons. On the plus side for Sony's PDD, Schlichting said the company has years of development heritage in BlueRay. "It can leverage that R&D and has very deep pockets," he said. Going against it, PDD requires a completely new library as it is a new form factor. UDO isn't a new form factor, so this technology can slot into current libraries. "It's an easy switch from MO to UDO," Schlichting said.
bushell is a pretty smart man, he founded Chuck E. Cheese for god sakes.
He is pretty smart but that doesn't mean he isn't biased. In the quote he dismisses the success of the PS1 and PS2 as mere timing. Mmmmmkay.
Plus, he believes that a year from now they will be struggling to sell a million units. Perhaps "believes" is too strong a word since his opinions are caveated with with a lot of probablies.
He is pretty smart but that doesn't mean he isn't biased. In the quote he dismisses the success of the PS1 and PS2 as mere timing. Mmmmmkay.
Plus, he believes that a year from now they will be struggling to sell a million units. Perhaps "believes" is too strong a word since his opinions are caveated with with a lot of probablies.
Vinea
Mmmkay what? they were never developer friendly. the ps1 ok, sony did good with the ps1, but the ps2 was not a great system, people developed for it because it had the install base, thats it.
and when he talks about timing, if you think about it, nothing was aroudn to truly challenege ps1.
the N64 was a good system, it had great games, but it dind't have all the support it needed to have and it made some mistakes not going with the cd format.
not to mention sega and their horrible sega saturn system was a bomb
dreamcast blew ps2 out of the water at first. but sony created that false hype, convinced people it was the system of choice and ran away with it.
thats all he says really, from strictly a console point of the the playstations were never that great.
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There's nothing stopping Adult media on BR, and from indication, they will be...yes...HD porn...man's strive to get a more realistic experiance that is in the realm of fantasy...
This does not mean they'll withhold it to anyone wanting to buy it though. It used to be quite expensive, but then like everything BR was expensive back then.
Today though I believe serveral companies are selling or finalizing their own mastering systems for BR, so it's a non issue.
And BR scheme is pretty much the same as the DVD scheme. So anyone that wants to do BR can do BR if you fork over the price.
BR is pretty much a hands off with a dose of politics. Some people just want to hate sony...because it's sony?
BR is pretty much a hands off with a dose of politics. Some people just want to hate sony...because it's sony?
oh please, sony has done a lot of grimy sh*t lately.
It started out as a Sony optical format holding 23Gb and has been around for years in Japan.
Sony replicates the movies and spearheads the development. If it looks like a duck...and quacks like a duck. Guess what?
Blu-ray is Sony people.
It started out as a Sony optical format holding 23Gb and has been around for years in Japan.
Sony replicates the movies and spearheads the development. If it looks like a duck...and quacks like a duck. Guess what?
Emm...sorry that's wrong.
The "Blu Ray Disc Association was found in 2002 by nine leading electronic companies like: Matsushita, Pioneer, Phlilps, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, Samsung and Sony as contrast to the DVD-Forum. In 2002 the companies were called the "Founders" of the Blu-Ray Disc and later changed their name to "Blu Ray Association" in order to achieve more companies joining their development.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc
What you maybe refering to is the sony PDD (2003)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Disc_for_DATA
Professional Disc for DATA (PDD or ProDATA) is a recordable optical disc format which was introduced by Sony in 2003. It was one of the first two formats (along with Ultra Density Optical) to utilize blue-violet lasers for reading and writing, which allowed for much higher density data to be stored on optical media compared to the higher wavelength infrared laser technology used in the CD and red laser technology used in the DVD format.
Which is what is based on BR (note circa 2002)
BR =2002 PDD= 2003
Oh yes and to answer your question. Swans and geeses also quack, and are close relatives of the duck but not a duck.
So, you sir, are a quack. Quack.
By your own arguement, Sony shouldn't even want to be in the same room as BR since their own format PDD is in direct competition to it. So tell me which format is PS3 using right now?
Emm...sorry that's wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc
What you maybe refering to is the sony PDD (2003)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Disc_for_DATA
Which is what is based on BR (note circa 2002)
BR =2002 PDD= 2003
Oh yes and to answer your question. Swans and geeses also quack, and are close relatives of the duck but not a duck.
So, you sir, are a quack. Quack.
By your own arguement, Sony shouldn't even want to be in the same room as BR since their own format PDD is in direct competition to it. So tell me which format is PS3 using right now?
Priceless. LOL.
maybe he was snorting quack?
Did you miss this part?
PDD uses a 405nm wavelength and a numerical aperture (NA) of 0.85 for the laser, allowing 23GB of data to be stored on one 12cm disc - the equivalent to nearly five single-layer DVDs, and a 1x data transfer rate of 88Mbit/s for reading and 72 Mbit/s for writing. Plans have also been made to introduce dual-layer 50 GB and quad-layer 100 GB discs in the future.
Confusingly, this all sounds very similar to the Blu-ray Disc format, another optical disc format using blue-violet lasers which is also supported by Sony. Even the PDD's caddie and Blu-Ray's prototype caddie (later it was dropped) look very similar between the two formats. The only apparent difference is that single-layer PDD discs have a capacity of 23 GB whereas Blu-rays can store 25 GB. However, Blu-ray Discs only currently allow a 1x data transfer rate of 36 Mbit/s - much lower than PDD. This is because PDD discs use much higher quality media and drives use higher quality components, making them prohibitively expensive for the average consumer segment Blu-ray Disc is aimed at.
Just as I've stated. Sony took PDD modified it a bit and voila. Blu-Ray. Blu-ray is a Sony creation in which others have hopped on the the bandwagon.
Emm...sorry that's wrong.
WARNING DUCKS NO LONGER QUACK
Best post ive seen here in ages
http://www.ps3news.ca/11092006/00/bu...0_really_great
"I think Sony shot themselves in the foot [with the PS3]… there is a high probability [they] will fail. The price point is probably unsustainable. For years and years Sony has been a very difficult company to deal with from a developer standpoint. They could get away with their arrogance and capriciousness because they had an installed base. They have also historically had horrible software tools. You compare that to the Xbox 360 with really great authoring tools [and] additional revenue streams from Xbox live… a first party developer would be an idiot to develop for Sony first and not the 360. People don’t buy hardware, they buy software."
this guy echoes what i have been saying since day 1 about sony and its playstation.
http://www.ps3news.ca/11092006/00/bu...0_really_great
If Bushell is so smart, why isn't there an Atari console competing with PS3 and XBox?
If Bushell is so smart, why isn't there an Atari console competing with PS3 and XBox?
come on now if you actualy looked up some history you would know why atari failed... nolan founded atari, he left after disputes before the company even went big.
bushell is a pretty smart man, he founded Chuck E. Cheese for god sakes.
you do realize steve jobs and wozniack worked for him before starting apple in the garage right?
Kuku for cocoa puffs
Did you miss this part?
The bolded parts simply indicate that they are similar. Which would hold if PPD is derived from Blu-Ray or vice versa.
Just as I've stated. Sony took PDD modified it a bit and voila. Blu-Ray. Blu-ray is a Sony creation in which others have hopped on the the bandwagon.
If the article is correct then the formation of Blu-Ray preceeded PDD. UDO also uses 0.85 aperture blue-violet laser. Of course its very different from PPD and Blu-Ray.
Here's a source that states the PDD is based on Blu-Ray technology:
Sony's latest effort leverages its BlueRay technology for creating disks in the consumer market to manufacture its so-called Professional Disc for Data (PDD) for high-end storage applications. The company is going after the archive market for document and medical imaging, e-mail, multimedia projects, graphics design, audio/video editing and broadcasting.
...
Wolfgang Schlichting, research director at International Data Corp. in Framingham, Mass., said both technologies have their pros and cons. On the plus side for Sony's PDD, Schlichting said the company has years of development heritage in BlueRay. "It can leverage that R&D and has very deep pockets," he said. Going against it, PDD requires a completely new library as it is a new form factor. UDO isn't a new form factor, so this technology can slot into current libraries. "It's an easy switch from MO to UDO," Schlichting said.
http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/...965210,00.html
Vinea
bushell is a pretty smart man, he founded Chuck E. Cheese for god sakes.
He is pretty smart but that doesn't mean he isn't biased. In the quote he dismisses the success of the PS1 and PS2 as mere timing. Mmmmmkay.
Plus, he believes that a year from now they will be struggling to sell a million units. Perhaps "believes" is too strong a word since his opinions are caveated with with a lot of probablies.
Vinea
. . . nolan founded atari, he left after disputes before the company even went big.
bushell is a pretty smart man, he founded Chuck E. Cheese for god sakes.
Thanks for filling me in on that history. I knew he started Chuck E. Cheese. I took my kids there a few times.
He is pretty smart but that doesn't mean he isn't biased. In the quote he dismisses the success of the PS1 and PS2 as mere timing. Mmmmmkay.
Plus, he believes that a year from now they will be struggling to sell a million units. Perhaps "believes" is too strong a word since his opinions are caveated with with a lot of probablies.
Vinea
Mmmkay what? they were never developer friendly. the ps1 ok, sony did good with the ps1, but the ps2 was not a great system, people developed for it because it had the install base, thats it.
and when he talks about timing, if you think about it, nothing was aroudn to truly challenege ps1.
the N64 was a good system, it had great games, but it dind't have all the support it needed to have and it made some mistakes not going with the cd format.
not to mention sega and their horrible sega saturn system was a bomb
dreamcast blew ps2 out of the water at first. but sony created that false hype, convinced people it was the system of choice and ran away with it.
thats all he says really, from strictly a console point of the the playstations were never that great.