Official World Cup Thread

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  • Reply 481 of 528
    vox barbaravox barbara Posts: 2,021member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Gilsch

    Well, going back to the Zidane incident it appears Materazzi may have called Zidane's sister a whore on more than one occasion during the game. There is another version that he called Zidane an" islamic terrorist".

    ...




    Verbal provocation is as unfair as some, well, physical

    treatment (called foul). But refs have no chances and

    afaik, no oportunities to sanction them, even if they notice

    them accidently. I am pretty sure Lippi told his players

    to provoke Zidane from time to time verbaly, because of

    Zidanes known issues being prone to lose self control.
  • Reply 482 of 528
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Placebo

    Zidane is officially dumb as shit.



    Apparently he either dissed his mother or called him, in English, 'a terrorist'. Says the BBC in the first case and the Guardian in the second...



    edit: oh, someone beat me to it.



    Anyway, this didn't take long:



    http://tonaz.altervista.org/zidane.html



    Click the screen...
  • Reply 483 of 528
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    Zidane lost control and was wrong for doing that.

    He deserved the red paper.



    BTW it seems that Mazeratto insulted him during the whole match, and insulted Zidane's mother. Zidane lose control and we all knows the end of the story.



    This is a very sad end, for a great champion, who displayed on the grounds a much better example than many others footballers ...



    I am very sad, for this error, find normal the referre decision, but as the light of his whole career, still find that he was a genius and a great man. Great man can fail (there is always people to help them ...) , because they are only humans.
  • Reply 484 of 528
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah

    Apparently he either dissed his mother or called him, in English, 'a terrorist'. Says the BBC in the first case and the Guardian in the second...



    edit: oh, someone beat me to it.



    Anyway, this didn't take long:



    http://tonaz.altervista.org/zidane.html



    Click the screen...




    But still, to let such a simple bastard's insults cause him to cause his team to lose? I would have waited a little longer.
  • Reply 485 of 528
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Placebo

    But still, to let such a simple bastard's insults cause him to cause his team to lose? I would have waited a little longer.



    Well yeah... I'm not really defending him, just... oh, it's ZIDANE! He's cool!
  • Reply 486 of 528
    vox barbaravox barbara Posts: 2,021member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Placebo

    But still, to let such a simple bastard's insults cause him to cause his team to lose? I would have waited a little longer.



    Well, as it stands now, italian tactic comprises 3 points:

    1. powerful defense to destroy all playing.

    2. deploying masterful dives

    3. insulting the heart of the opponent (in order to get him burst out)
  • Reply 487 of 528
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah

    Well yeah... I'm not really defending him, just... oh, it's ZIDANE! He's cool!



    What?
  • Reply 488 of 528
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Placebo

    What?



    It was inexcusable, but I want Zidane to have an excuse.
  • Reply 489 of 528
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah

    It was inexcusable, but I want Zidane to have an excuse.



    I've already decided he has. By default. Blame the italian!
  • Reply 490 of 528
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Placebo

    But still, to let such a simple bastard's insults cause him to cause his team to lose? I would have waited a little longer.



    Oh puleaaase. I feel like Americans especially think that professional soccer is some sort of chivalrous endeavor. It's not: its success has come from being a source of adult entertainment. It's not like Zidane assaulted a fan -- he headbutted some dude in the sternum! It was minute 110. The game was going nowhere except to penalties. It's impossible to say if France would have won or lost without Zizou, but his headbutt was most entertaining to watch, and that's really the whole point anyway.



    Would the French be happier is he didn't headbutt, and the team won? Certainly. But there's no guarantee that he would have been the difference. Trezeguet probably still would have missed his shot. So at least, as consolation, we as fans get a quality -- yet strangely executed -- headbutt to remember for at least the next week.
  • Reply 491 of 528
    Quote:

    Originally posted by New

    I've already decided he has. By default. Blame the italian!



    Mon Zizou! What did the nasty Italian SAY to you?
  • Reply 492 of 528
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah

    Mon Zizou! What did the nasty Italian SAY to you?



    I said already! "Hey Zidane! Bet you won't headbutt me in the chest!"
  • Reply 493 of 528
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Haha, great answer.
  • Reply 494 of 528
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    Adult entertainment? Getting violent on simple insults? My junior high school students have grown out of that already.
  • Reply 495 of 528
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Some people, I suppose, will never get it.
  • Reply 496 of 528
    Happily!



    If I want violence, there's K1, boxing, the evening news.
  • Reply 497 of 528
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Bergermeister

    Happily!



    If I want violence, there's K1, boxing, the evening news.




    Lip reader reveals what Materazzi said.
  • Reply 498 of 528
    vox barbaravox barbara Posts: 2,021member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah

    Lip reader reveals what Materazzi said.



    Come on According to... , Sources say... sounds

    pretty familiar. I don't say the site is a Mock up, but the

    writing is based on pure speculation.



    I am very keen on hearing the true words that italian bastard tossed

    at Zisou.

    Also, i don't think Bloodymerazzi droped one singe insult

    to Zisou, he did it permanently from the beginning. Believe me.

  • Reply 499 of 528
    imac davidimac david Posts: 286member
    Splinemodel,



    I guess you're right, some people won't get it that it is fundamentally wrong to headbutt someone in response to a verbal insult. Sure, gives you fleeting satisfaction ("he called my mother a $£%^& and I thumped him. It felt good"), but is hardly to be commended.



    Furthermore, just how stupid do you have to be to react to a comment designed to annoy in the middle (sorry Gilsh - towards the end) of the World Cup final? France were the only team really trying to score by that stage, Italy looked dead on their feet. It was crying out for some Zidane magic.



    splinemodel wrote

    Quote:

    but his headbutt was most entertaining to watch, and that's really the whole point anyway.



    Are you really suggesting that anything goes on a sports field as long as the paying punter is entertained?



    Cheers,



    David
  • Reply 500 of 528
    imac davidimac david Posts: 286member
    Just a quick comment on the penalty shootout. Does anyone else agree that it was virtually a masterclass in how to do it?



    Virtually all of them were played at pace into the corners, giving the keepers almost zero chance of saving them. Even the one miss was only inches out, rather than the pathetic efforts of the England team (barring Hargreaves of course).



    If you are going to hit them half pace, just off centre, then you had better make sure you hit them after the keeper has committed himself, and then do it in the other direction.



    Cheers,



    David
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