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  • Reply 421 of 528
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by dojobi

    That's very good to hear that something is being done about it.



    Many years too late IMO.



    This cup has been so bad that it appears that FIFA will be aggressively pursuing a few changes. I think the most notable one being using two refs. Of course Blatter loves to talk....so we'll see.



    Blatter has said that they will be looking into ways to increase scoring aswell. This WC could end up being the lowest scoring ever if there are no goals in the third place match and the final. The current lowest is Italy 90.



    Two referee system



    Not enough goals
  • Reply 422 of 528
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Very funny.
  • Reply 423 of 528
    dojobidojobi Posts: 73member
    Yeah I really don't know how you can tackle the low number of goals scored. Wider goals just doesn't seem right to me, as the current size is just slightly too big for a keeper to stop a fast ball into the corner. This makes for some spectacular goals.



    The other options of restricting where the keeper can touch the ball and offside changes don't sound too good to me.



    Out of the ones in the article, I think 10 men per side is the best option. It's a really hard problem, as everything is a compromise. Who knows how they'll fix it.



    The 2 ref system would definitely be an improvement. I'm all for that.
  • Reply 424 of 528
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    Great photos, dojobi!



    They forgot the "Russian Judge" awarding 3 points!! However, with the fall of the Soviet Union and all, who is the devilish judge now?



    They could use figure-skating judges: three spins while falling scores higher than a half-back flip, etc.



    On sale now at a sporting store near you: Fake Injury Stickers. Almost unnoticeable on the skin, when given a slight bump these babies pour out realistic-looking blood to make your "injury" look as serious as possible. Special soccer edition also oozes green ink to mimic grass stains.



    For the goals, they could go to a basketball style scoring system. A goal that is hit on the way in, either by a player or the post, scores 1 point. A clean entry scores 2 points, and a long shot from outside the circle would score 3 points. Maybe the Americans would take a liking to the game then.



    To allow more goals, tie the GK to a point mid-goal using an elastic cord.



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    Vox: sorry, you are right; Germany will win.
  • Reply 425 of 528
    dojobidojobi Posts: 73member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Bergermeister

    To allow more goals, tie the GK to a point mid-goal using an elastic cord.



    LOL



    I like your other ideas too. More points for long range goals would definitely encourage some big shots on goal.
  • Reply 426 of 528
    vox barbaravox barbara Posts: 2,021member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Bergermeister

    ...

    Vox: sorry, you are right; Germany will win.




    You don't have to comfort me, if this was your intention.

    I am a grown-up, and i have enough possibilities to

    vent my anger.

    [I pretty badly need a smily for "gnash", mods, hear me?]

    And no "grumble" is not the exact same.
  • Reply 427 of 528
    vox barbaravox barbara Posts: 2,021member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by dojobi



    ...

    The other options of restricting where the keeper can touch the ball and offside changes don't sound too good to me.

    ...





    Bad idea.



    Quote:

    Out of the ones in the article, I think 10 men per side is the best option. It's a really hard problem, as everything is a compromise. Who knows how they'll fix it.

    ...



    Actually, i believe "Football" as it is, is a game of almost nearly perfection.

    The basic concept is:

    put the ball into the adverse goal, you can use every part of your

    body but your hands.
    Simple, but powerful. You can hardly change

    something there, without distroying the sheer beauty of the game.

    There are only a few (minor) rules in question, upside rule is one of them.



    It is a game which comprises:

    team spirit, technical and tactical skills, fitness, athleticism .

    These 5 points are the main reason everybody in the world can grasp

    this game immediately. Everybody in the world has a need for

    these 5 (maybe more) points, too.



    Technical enhancements like earphones, real time video examining,

    smart balls and what not are coming soon. And i strongly second that.

    Wrong decisions based opon "diving" AND hidden fouls should/will

    be past soon.



    Quote:

    The 2 ref system would definitely be an improvement. I'm all for that.



    I don't think so. Two refs can have two differnt views. And this is bad.

    But i think a ref should be able to examine a video review of the

    last move, IF said ref IS NOT sure how to decide.

    Come on, there is something wrong, if literally billions can watch the

    diving over and over, but the ref chooses a penalty kick... (Australia, anyone?)



    EDIT: Diving should be punished very hard, exactly one warning,

    than red card for everyone (in a given match) who dares to fu**

    with the ref. Diving f*ck* up the spirit of the game big time and

    this is not acceptable.





    My 2 cents
  • Reply 428 of 528
    imac davidimac david Posts: 286member
    There is a case to be made for a second ref, but for me it is mainly for corners. The sheer amount of wrestling that goes on is phenomenal, and for some reason linesmen (or asisstant referees as they're now called) never get involved. Maybe because they are too far away. I'm assuming referees don't see three quarters of the stuff that goes on as they are following the flight of the ball.



    David
  • Reply 429 of 528
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    Vox: I am not trying to please you... I am also big enough to re-evaluate my position and change accordingly. Personally, I want Portugal to win, but after some reflection I do not think they will. I simply do not think Germany will lose twice at home.



    Anyone able to throw together a Photoshop of guys wearing the old WWII-vintage diving masks playing soccer?



    "Navy diver...!"



    How about just holding all matches underwater in full diving gear? Any penalty would result in a feeding to the sharks.
  • Reply 430 of 528
    vox barbaravox barbara Posts: 2,021member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Bergermeister

    Vox: I am not trying to please you...



    I was thinking so. Just wishful thinking anyway.
  • Reply 431 of 528
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    5 minutes into the game and the refs are already falling for the German dives... G got a free kick off of that???!!! and they are gunning for Ronaldo... This might be a rough match.



    The German crowds don't boo; they sound like cicadas!



    Germany got a yellow at 7 minutes. No holds barred, they do not want to lose again.
  • Reply 432 of 528
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    My wife says that Portugal's coach looks like Gene Hackman...??



    This match is out of control... the pro-divers association will have many new members...

  • Reply 433 of 528
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Thank God German crowds don't boo.



    Boring game...typical of the tournament. One more 0-0 in regular time and this cup will be inching closer to becoming the lowest scoring ever.



    Cristiano Ronaldo is finished in the premiership. After the Looney incident and this last dive. That slowmo replay of him diving while looking at the ref. was priceless. In one fraction of a second he went from a look of pain to "oh shit, ref is not buying it and I'm gonna get booked for diving".
  • Reply 434 of 528
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    Well, the other Rooney incident ended in a 2-game ban and a (petty) fine of 2300 pounds (very little on his salary). Source: the BBC



    2nd half has started... let's see some goals by Portugal!



    Ugh. 2-0 Germany (I did think they would win)



    Ugh. 3-0 and a yellow for Schweinsteiger



    YEAH! Portugal scores! 3-1 (FInal, but at least not a shut-out)





  • Reply 435 of 528
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Bergermeister

    Well, the other Rooney incident ended in a 2-game ban and a (petty) fine of 2300 pounds (very little on his salary). Source: the BBC



    You completely missed the point on Looney. It's the Prem./manu fans reaction I was alluding to, not how FIFA dealt with it.



    3 good goals. It won't be the worst scoring ever now. Too bad the teams didn't realize that any well struck ball would give any goalie nightmares. Chila called it when the WC started.



    Anyone play footie here? Anyone who's ever played with a volleyball for fun knows what I mean. This new ball is nothing but a heavy volleyball.
  • Reply 436 of 528
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member


    Yeah, I remember some CNN or BBC article before the WC about the ball from hell and how it was going to increase scoring. Didn't quite happen that way...



    The reg ball is pretty heavy... how do they compare?
  • Reply 437 of 528
    vox barbaravox barbara Posts: 2,021member
    At least Germany achieved the 3rd.

    Actually this was not the best match in the entire Tournament,

    but who cares, finally?



    Cheers, now to France, stand up boys.
  • Reply 438 of 528
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    The new ball is heavy. It's called Teamgheist(sp?) plus or something. It has fewer and "rounder" shaped panels than before so there are less corners and stitches.

    Supposedly for greater "accuracy'.



    I personally didn't see a lot of accurate shots this WC. I did see a lot of errant crosses. Crosses sailing many feet over their intended targets. Coincidence? Maybe.



    Weight wise, I heard it's right at the weight limit, so it isn't a light ball. Shit. I just remembered. Beckenbauer was complaining about teams not taking "enough" shots. I think I read it on a Brasilian sports website. I'll post a link if I can find it.



    Beckenbauer: *hint* *hint* dummies. TAKE SHOTS!!!





    FIFA probably commissioned a ball that would go fast and have a lot of movement when struck well. A few goalies have been made to look silly this WC. Kahn and Ricardo tonight alone.



    Edit: the right spelling is "Teamgeist".
  • Reply 439 of 528
    marcukmarcuk Posts: 4,442member
    how exactly did kahn make himself look silly tonight?
  • Reply 440 of 528
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by MarcUK

    how exactly did kahn make himself look silly tonight?



    The ball made them look silly. Going one way while the ball all of a sudden went the other way.
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