That's very good to hear that something is being done about it.
Many years too late IMO.
This cup has been so bad that it appears that FIFA will be aggressively pursuing a few changes. I think the most notable one being using two refs. Of course Blatter loves to talk....so we'll see.
Blatter has said that they will be looking into ways to increase scoring aswell. This WC could end up being the lowest scoring ever if there are no goals in the third place match and the final. The current lowest is Italy 90.
Yeah I really don't know how you can tackle the low number of goals scored. Wider goals just doesn't seem right to me, as the current size is just slightly too big for a keeper to stop a fast ball into the corner. This makes for some spectacular goals.
The other options of restricting where the keeper can touch the ball and offside changes don't sound too good to me.
Out of the ones in the article, I think 10 men per side is the best option. It's a really hard problem, as everything is a compromise. Who knows how they'll fix it.
The 2 ref system would definitely be an improvement. I'm all for that.
They forgot the "Russian Judge" awarding 3 points!! However, with the fall of the Soviet Union and all, who is the devilish judge now?
They could use figure-skating judges: three spins while falling scores higher than a half-back flip, etc.
On sale now at a sporting store near you: Fake Injury Stickers. Almost unnoticeable on the skin, when given a slight bump these babies pour out realistic-looking blood to make your "injury" look as serious as possible. Special soccer edition also oozes green ink to mimic grass stains.
For the goals, they could go to a basketball style scoring system. A goal that is hit on the way in, either by a player or the post, scores 1 point. A clean entry scores 2 points, and a long shot from outside the circle would score 3 points. Maybe the Americans would take a liking to the game then.
To allow more goals, tie the GK to a point mid-goal using an elastic cord.
The other options of restricting where the keeper can touch the ball and offside changes don't sound too good to me.
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Bad idea.
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Out of the ones in the article, I think 10 men per side is the best option. It's a really hard problem, as everything is a compromise. Who knows how they'll fix it.
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Actually, i believe "Football" as it is, is a game of almost nearly perfection.
The basic concept is:
put the ball into the adverse goal, you can use every part of your
body but your hands. Simple, but powerful. You can hardly change
something there, without distroying the sheer beauty of the game.
There are only a few (minor) rules in question, upside rule is one of them.
It is a game which comprises:
team spirit, technical and tactical skills, fitness, athleticism .
These 5 points are the main reason everybody in the world can grasp
this game immediately. Everybody in the world has a need for
these 5 (maybe more) points, too.
Technical enhancements like earphones, real time video examining,
smart balls and what not are coming soon. And i strongly second that.
Wrong decisions based opon "diving" AND hidden fouls should/will
be past soon.
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The 2 ref system would definitely be an improvement. I'm all for that.
I don't think so. Two refs can have two differnt views. And this is bad.
But i think a ref should be able to examine a video review of the
last move, IF said ref IS NOT sure how to decide.
Come on, there is something wrong, if literally billions can watch the
diving over and over, but the ref chooses a penalty kick... (Australia, anyone?)
EDIT: Diving should be punished very hard, exactly one warning,
than red card for everyone (in a given match) who dares to fu**
with the ref. Diving f*ck* up the spirit of the game big time and
There is a case to be made for a second ref, but for me it is mainly for corners. The sheer amount of wrestling that goes on is phenomenal, and for some reason linesmen (or asisstant referees as they're now called) never get involved. Maybe because they are too far away. I'm assuming referees don't see three quarters of the stuff that goes on as they are following the flight of the ball.
Vox: I am not trying to please you... I am also big enough to re-evaluate my position and change accordingly. Personally, I want Portugal to win, but after some reflection I do not think they will. I simply do not think Germany will lose twice at home.
Anyone able to throw together a Photoshop of guys wearing the old WWII-vintage diving masks playing soccer?
"Navy diver...!"
How about just holding all matches underwater in full diving gear? Any penalty would result in a feeding to the sharks.
5 minutes into the game and the refs are already falling for the German dives... G got a free kick off of that???!!! and they are gunning for Ronaldo... This might be a rough match.
The German crowds don't boo; they sound like cicadas!
Germany got a yellow at 7 minutes. No holds barred, they do not want to lose again.
Boring game...typical of the tournament. One more 0-0 in regular time and this cup will be inching closer to becoming the lowest scoring ever.
Cristiano Ronaldo is finished in the premiership. After the Looney incident and this last dive. That slowmo replay of him diving while looking at the ref. was priceless. In one fraction of a second he went from a look of pain to "oh shit, ref is not buying it and I'm gonna get booked for diving".
Well, the other Rooney incident ended in a 2-game ban and a (petty) fine of 2300 pounds (very little on his salary). Source: the BBC
You completely missed the point on Looney. It's the Prem./manu fans reaction I was alluding to, not how FIFA dealt with it.
3 good goals. It won't be the worst scoring ever now. Too bad the teams didn't realize that any well struck ball would give any goalie nightmares. Chila called it when the WC started.
Anyone play footie here? Anyone who's ever played with a volleyball for fun knows what I mean. This new ball is nothing but a heavy volleyball.
Yeah, I remember some CNN or BBC article before the WC about the ball from hell and how it was going to increase scoring. Didn't quite happen that way...
The reg ball is pretty heavy... how do they compare?
The new ball is heavy. It's called Teamgheist(sp?) plus or something. It has fewer and "rounder" shaped panels than before so there are less corners and stitches.
Supposedly for greater "accuracy'.
I personally didn't see a lot of accurate shots this WC. I did see a lot of errant crosses. Crosses sailing many feet over their intended targets. Coincidence? Maybe.
Weight wise, I heard it's right at the weight limit, so it isn't a light ball. Shit. I just remembered. Beckenbauer was complaining about teams not taking "enough" shots. I think I read it on a Brasilian sports website. I'll post a link if I can find it.
Beckenbauer: *hint* *hint* dummies. TAKE SHOTS!!!
FIFA probably commissioned a ball that would go fast and have a lot of movement when struck well. A few goalies have been made to look silly this WC. Kahn and Ricardo tonight alone.
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Originally posted by dojobi
That's very good to hear that something is being done about it.
Many years too late IMO.
This cup has been so bad that it appears that FIFA will be aggressively pursuing a few changes. I think the most notable one being using two refs. Of course Blatter loves to talk....so we'll see.
Blatter has said that they will be looking into ways to increase scoring aswell. This WC could end up being the lowest scoring ever if there are no goals in the third place match and the final. The current lowest is Italy 90.
Two referee system
Not enough goals
The other options of restricting where the keeper can touch the ball and offside changes don't sound too good to me.
Out of the ones in the article, I think 10 men per side is the best option. It's a really hard problem, as everything is a compromise. Who knows how they'll fix it.
The 2 ref system would definitely be an improvement. I'm all for that.
They forgot the "Russian Judge" awarding 3 points!! However, with the fall of the Soviet Union and all, who is the devilish judge now?
They could use figure-skating judges: three spins while falling scores higher than a half-back flip, etc.
On sale now at a sporting store near you: Fake Injury Stickers. Almost unnoticeable on the skin, when given a slight bump these babies pour out realistic-looking blood to make your "injury" look as serious as possible. Special soccer edition also oozes green ink to mimic grass stains.
For the goals, they could go to a basketball style scoring system. A goal that is hit on the way in, either by a player or the post, scores 1 point. A clean entry scores 2 points, and a long shot from outside the circle would score 3 points. Maybe the Americans would take a liking to the game then.
To allow more goals, tie the GK to a point mid-goal using an elastic cord.
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Vox: sorry, you are right; Germany will win.
Originally posted by Bergermeister
To allow more goals, tie the GK to a point mid-goal using an elastic cord.
LOL
I like your other ideas too. More points for long range goals would definitely encourage some big shots on goal.
Originally posted by Bergermeister
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Vox: sorry, you are right; Germany will win.
You don't have to comfort me, if this was your intention.
I am a grown-up, and i have enough possibilities to
vent my anger.
[I pretty badly need a smily for "gnash", mods, hear me?]
And no "grumble" is not the exact same.
Originally posted by dojobi
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The other options of restricting where the keeper can touch the ball and offside changes don't sound too good to me.
...
Bad idea.
Out of the ones in the article, I think 10 men per side is the best option. It's a really hard problem, as everything is a compromise. Who knows how they'll fix it.
...
Actually, i believe "Football" as it is, is a game of almost nearly perfection.
The basic concept is:
put the ball into the adverse goal, you can use every part of your
body but your hands. Simple, but powerful. You can hardly change
something there, without distroying the sheer beauty of the game.
There are only a few (minor) rules in question, upside rule is one of them.
It is a game which comprises:
team spirit, technical and tactical skills, fitness, athleticism .
These 5 points are the main reason everybody in the world can grasp
this game immediately. Everybody in the world has a need for
these 5 (maybe more) points, too.
Technical enhancements like earphones, real time video examining,
smart balls and what not are coming soon. And i strongly second that.
Wrong decisions based opon "diving" AND hidden fouls should/will
be past soon.
The 2 ref system would definitely be an improvement. I'm all for that.
I don't think so. Two refs can have two differnt views. And this is bad.
But i think a ref should be able to examine a video review of the
last move, IF said ref IS NOT sure how to decide.
Come on, there is something wrong, if literally billions can watch the
diving over and over, but the ref chooses a penalty kick... (Australia, anyone?)
EDIT: Diving should be punished very hard, exactly one warning,
than red card for everyone (in a given match) who dares to fu**
with the ref. Diving f*ck* up the spirit of the game big time and
this is not acceptable.
My 2 cents
David
Anyone able to throw together a Photoshop of guys wearing the old WWII-vintage diving masks playing soccer?
"Navy diver...!"
How about just holding all matches underwater in full diving gear? Any penalty would result in a feeding to the sharks.
Originally posted by Bergermeister
Vox: I am not trying to please you...
The German crowds don't boo; they sound like cicadas!
Germany got a yellow at 7 minutes. No holds barred, they do not want to lose again.
This match is out of control... the pro-divers association will have many new members...
Boring game...typical of the tournament. One more 0-0 in regular time and this cup will be inching closer to becoming the lowest scoring ever.
Cristiano Ronaldo is finished in the premiership. After the Looney incident and this last dive. That slowmo replay of him diving while looking at the ref. was priceless. In one fraction of a second he went from a look of pain to "oh shit, ref is not buying it and I'm gonna get booked for diving".
2nd half has started... let's see some goals by Portugal!
Ugh. 2-0 Germany (I did think they would win)
Ugh. 3-0 and a yellow for Schweinsteiger
YEAH! Portugal scores! 3-1 (FInal, but at least not a shut-out)
Originally posted by Bergermeister
Well, the other Rooney incident ended in a 2-game ban and a (petty) fine of 2300 pounds (very little on his salary). Source: the BBC
You completely missed the point on Looney. It's the Prem./manu fans reaction I was alluding to, not how FIFA dealt with it.
3 good goals. It won't be the worst scoring ever now. Too bad the teams didn't realize that any well struck ball would give any goalie nightmares. Chila called it when the WC started.
Anyone play footie here? Anyone who's ever played with a volleyball for fun knows what I mean. This new ball is nothing but a heavy volleyball.
Yeah, I remember some CNN or BBC article before the WC about the ball from hell and how it was going to increase scoring. Didn't quite happen that way...
The reg ball is pretty heavy... how do they compare?
Actually this was not the best match in the entire Tournament,
but who cares, finally?
Cheers, now to France, stand up boys.
Supposedly for greater "accuracy'.
I personally didn't see a lot of accurate shots this WC. I did see a lot of errant crosses. Crosses sailing many feet over their intended targets. Coincidence? Maybe.
Weight wise, I heard it's right at the weight limit, so it isn't a light ball. Shit. I just remembered. Beckenbauer was complaining about teams not taking "enough" shots. I think I read it on a Brasilian sports website. I'll post a link if I can find it.
Beckenbauer: *hint* *hint* dummies. TAKE SHOTS!!!
FIFA probably commissioned a ball that would go fast and have a lot of movement when struck well. A few goalies have been made to look silly this WC. Kahn and Ricardo tonight alone.
Edit: the right spelling is "Teamgeist".
Originally posted by MarcUK
how exactly did kahn make himself look silly tonight?
The ball made them look silly. Going one way while the ball all of a sudden went the other way.