Blu-ray vs. HD DVD (2007)

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  • Reply 3261 of 4650
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    Originally Posted by Eugene View Post


    I have a Lite-On drive, so there are firmwares available that will no only increase the start point of the burn curve, but also allow you to set the burn speed to 20x for any MID. The OPC on drive will intelligently back down if the media has imperfections.



    http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=207033 (from http://codeguys.rpc1.org/firmwares.html )



    Plus the better Mitsubishi Chemical and Taiyo Yuden MIDs work at 20x right out of the box.



    I used to visit cdfreaks regularly on the NEC burner forum to get modified Liggy firmware for NEC 3500. With the modified firmware, the 8X Taiyo Yuden actually burned better quality at 12x and also able to burn at 16X without generating a single coaster.



    BTW, what's the burn time now for 20X?... I'll will soon have to replace my NEC 3500 with faster DL burner...... I hear HD-DVD authoring is possible on DL DVD writable media.
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  • Reply 3262 of 4650
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Just to regress a bit, has Microsoft gotten any further with their evil plan to control movie downloads?

    Or can other evil corporations still join the game?



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  • Reply 3263 of 4650
    jlljll Posts: 2,713member
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    Originally Posted by Walter Slocombe View Post


    funny but I thought it was already out on BD Link here



    Fox doesn't have the distribution rights in Italy.



    Furthermore I guess that BD-50 is a major reason as the movie is over 3 hours long.
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  • Reply 3264 of 4650
    jlljll Posts: 2,713member
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    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post


    Typical half truth. Spielberg is about the money. He wants his movies delivered to the format with millions of players. Lucas feels the same way. They don't care about Blu-ray or HD DVD as formats but rather how many players are available and what security the formats have for their movies.



    So that must be Blu-ray then since Close Encounters is about to be released on Blu-ray and that he said no to Universal and Dreamworks releasing his movies on HD DVD.
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  • Reply 3265 of 4650
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
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    Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post


    What? You mean it's not all about attach rates? It's all about how many discs they can sell? Inconceivable!



    LOL...I need to watch that movie again...
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  • Reply 3266 of 4650
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    Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post


    Good luck finding blank media for those.





    What? You mean it's not all about attach rates? It's all about how many discs they can sell? Inconceivable!



    LMAO. Oh the memories.







    Never mess with HD DVD when death is on the line...Hahahahah...ahahahahaha...<insert HD DVD croaking and dying>
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  • Reply 3267 of 4650
    Well.... I guess Paramount will start early with HD-DVD exclusivity kick off on the Blockbuster title, Transformers. Ah.... another eye candy movie, but I'm a sucker for such movies as well.



    "From Director Michael Bay and Executive Producer Steven Spielberg Comes the BIGGEST Original Blockbuster of the Year, TRANSFORMERS"



    http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...05&newsLang=en
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  • Reply 3268 of 4650
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    Well.... I guess Paramount will start early with HD-DVD exclusivity kick off on the Blockbuster title, Transformers. Ah.... another eye candy movie, but I'm a sucker for such movies as well.



    "From Director Michael Bay and Executive Producer Steven Spielberg Comes the BIGGEST Original Blockbuster of the Year, TRANSFORMERS"



    http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...05&newsLang=en



    Hmm quite telling. Paramount can't even fit TrueHD audio or any type of loseless track on the disc. Too bad they wouldn't have had that issue with Blu-ray.



    Kinda piss poor with such a huge blockbuster release like Transformers. It should've got the Pirates treatment, with peaked out everything, but ahh well, only so much you can do with 30 GB.
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  • Reply 3269 of 4650
    Panasonic Announces Living in HD Truck Tour



    http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=474



    Quote:

    Panasonic has announced that they have outfitted four trucks with the latest in high definition equipment, and will be sending the fleet to retailers and high-traffic consumer events across the US. The trucks will feature Panasonic's 103" plasma display (currently the largest made) and Blu-ray player to show consumers the advantages of HD.

    Bob Greenberg, Panasonic's Vice President of Brand Marketing commented, "Our Living In High Definition Nationwide Tour is designed to introduce consumers to and engage them on all of the creative possibilities that our suite of High Definition products can bring to their lives. Our award-winning line of Plasma HDTV's, including our new 1080p models, are the centerpiece of a High Definition lifestyle we call Living In HD."



    For a virtual tour of their flagship 55' truck, or to see when the tour is scheduled to visit a store/event near you, head over to Panasonic's Living in HD site.



    That'll hopefully grab the public's attention...103" plasma...jeebus.
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  • Reply 3270 of 4650
    bitemymacbitemymac Posts: 1,147member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marzetta7 View Post


    Hmm quite telling. Paramount can't even fit TrueHD audio or any type of loseless track on the disc. Too bad they wouldn't have had that issue with Blu-ray.



    Kinda piss poor with such a huge blockbuster release like Transformers. It should've got the Pirates treatment, with peaked out everything, but ahh well, only so much you can do with 30 GB.



    You sound like you have never experienced DD+@ 1.5 mbps, TrueHD, and MultiChannel PCM on a properly invested audio system. Difference maybe about 3% if anyone would guage such difference.... but most of audio geeks like me do care. However, that will not stop me from getting a copy.



    BTW, you obviously haven't heard about the framing issues on Blu-Ray version of Pirates .... Disney did big boo boo on their blockbuster........ and that is something big enough to wait for the next release...... almost as bad as the first released version of the Fifth Element. I'm glad it happened when it's still Blu-Ray exclusive. I'm sure the HD-DVD version of Pirates would have this framing issues fixed..... as the rumors go.... Disney going neutral in Dec. 2007.... as stated from a Blu-Ray insider in AVS. It's inconceivable, but if it happens, I will like it.
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  • Reply 3271 of 4650
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
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    Originally Posted by bitemymac View Post


    Disney going neutral in Dec. 2007.... as stated from a Blu-Ray insider in AVS. It's inconceivable, but if it happens, I will like it.



    Why December and miss Christmas? By 1 Dec its a bit much to get stuff throught the channel in time. Better to wait and see Q4 numbers to how things shake out or go neutral now and get Cars and Ratatouie out in HD-DVD by Thanksgiving. December 2007 is just dumb.
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  • Reply 3272 of 4650
    bitemymacbitemymac Posts: 1,147member
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    Originally Posted by vinea View Post


    Why December and miss Christmas? By 1 Dec its a bit much to get stuff throught the channel in time. Better to wait and see Q4 numbers to how things shake out or go neutral now and get Cars and Ratatouie out in HD-DVD by Thanksgiving. December 2007 is just dumb.



    It would have been even better if Disney announced around the time when Paramount announced HD-DVD exclusivity.



    It really doesn't matter to me, since I already bought the SD-DVD version of currently available titles. I would welcome the new releases though, if/when it happens. However, since the info source being a rumor...... I'll believe it when I see it.
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  • Reply 3273 of 4650
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Again, I don't see Disney announcing a change anytime soon, unless Jobs has changed his mind about Blu-Ray.
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  • Reply 3274 of 4650
    jlljll Posts: 2,713member
    Beatboy at AVS is the MOSR of AV rumors.
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  • Reply 3275 of 4650
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
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    Originally Posted by bitemymac View Post


    It would have been even better if Disney announced around the time when Paramount announced HD-DVD exclusivity.



    Well that's the point innit? Paramount announced at a time where it makes sense. December makes little sense.
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  • Reply 3276 of 4650
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
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    Originally Posted by JLL View Post


    Beatboy at AVS is the MOSR of AV rumors.



    I don't go to that forum or know its posters. But that's harsh.
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  • Reply 3277 of 4650
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,069member
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    Originally Posted by bitemymac View Post


    That's what Sony has been saying since the beginning and every time they claimed victory over the HD-DVD.



    Obviously, the studios/industry is starting to realized the poor attachment rate on the PS3 owners when it comes to HiDef movies. This is one of the reason Paramount and Dreamworks turned away from PS3 format. Gamers are not movie enthusiasts/hobbyists.



    That's bullshit. Totally. Paramount and Dreamworks did so because they were BOUGHT OFF. Attach rates don't mean shit when the format is selling 2 and 3 to 1 better than the other. Please.
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  • Reply 3278 of 4650
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
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    Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post


    That's b-. Totally. Paramount and Dreamworks did so because they were BOUGHT OFF. Attach rates don't mean shit when the format is selling 2 and 3 to 1 better than the other. Please.



    Nonsense. Current sales of hi-def players are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Most electronics companies know that.



    The only reason the discs are selling "2 and 3 to 1" is because of the PS3. And if the PS3 continues to drop and eats the lunch of the low end BR manufacturers, the BR market will consist mainly of the PS3 and higher-end machines. That does not a healthy platform make.



    You continue to ignore that Paramount and Dreamworks have good business reasons not to back a platform run largely by a rival studio and keep endlessly repeating the "bribery" nonsense.



    That's fine, but repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true.
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  • Reply 3279 of 4650
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,069member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post


    Nonsense. Current sales of hi-def players are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Most electronics companies know that.



    Not players. Discs. It's not insignificant at all.



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    The only reason the discs are selling "2 and 3 to 1" is because of the PS3.



    Assuming that's true, so?



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    And if the PS3 continues to drop and eats the lunch of the low end BR manufacturers, the BR market will consist mainly of the PS3 and higher-end machines. That does not a healthy platform make.



    Says who? It's also a big "if." Pretty soon, "low end" BD players will cost nearly the same as HD-DVD players anyway. The PS3 is not going below $200 anytime soon.



    Quote:



    You continue to ignore that Paramount and Dreamworks have good business reasons not to back a platform run largely by a rival studio and keep endlessly repeating the "bribery" nonsense.



    That's fine, but repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true.



    That's nothing but an excuse. If it was a real reason, they wouldn't have needed the $150 million or whatever the figure was, they would have just done it.



    Even if it was the reason, it can't possibly make up for the fact that they just threw the kitchen sink at a format selling 1/3 as many discs as its rival.
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  • Reply 3280 of 4650
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
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    Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post


    Nonsense. Current sales of hi-def players are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Most electronics companies know that.



    Heh...I bet most electronic companies are likely looking at Toshiba and HD-DVD player prices and thinking "assholes". Hence the lack of HD-DVD players that aren't either universal or slight mods of Toshiba's own reference systems.



    Granted that DVD player prices also dropped relatively quickly but CE companies had an extra 6 months AND the expectation of rapid sales. Something they can't expect with this stupid format war going on.
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