Apple's next-generation iMacs to add a touch of grace

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  • Reply 181 of 283
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bageljoey


    ...ummm, have you been posting from your old username about lurking with a new name?

    If so, you 're not trying too hard to keep it a secret...



    Quote:
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    Agreed



    Heh. Shhh... Basically I'm now here, me is nvidia2008. Those that know my style will know who I used to post under. But I had to "go underground" since like I said now actually *OMFG* (seriously, it's a bloody miracle) working within Apple/ IT/ Business /Education circles. So any new users or those who only skim the forums will not recognize me. Previous username was too visible, and deprecated now. Also, I've done a lot of ranting and raving about different stuff that if some people that worked/ potentially worked with me read, they would be, heh, intrigued, to say the least.



    Also, hopefully I will spend less time on the forums and doing more stuff *OMFG* in real life ..!!11!!

    Heh. But you guys (and gal[s]) have been great all this while, even though we've had our scruff-ups.



    Me is not n00b, me confident but me must open my mind to learn more and understand, and not be frustrated/ jaded by, Apple/ IT/ Life matrix.



    Anyway from what I have read the real 1337's on these forums are those that had big posts "pre-blackout".

    Remember, it's not the size of your post counts, it's how you use it......
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  • Reply 182 of 283
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    Bugger, how do you make these smiley thingamabobs work, bugger...



    They changed some of it...!! ...The actual shortcut characters to show the smilies, not so much the actual graphics...
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  • Reply 183 of 283
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    .............

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    Unfortunately, it seems that marketing departments and sales people are only interested in pushing products out the door and ringing up the cash register. All service issues afterwards are not their problem. I've seen this all the time at stores like CompUSA. The slick talking salesmen tell customers everything they want to hear: Buy this product and if you have any problems, you'll be first in line at the service department! You'll get your computer back the same day! They can give you a free loaner computer, etc...The salesmen do this because they are not the ones who have to spend time fixing the damn things. There is no sense of accountability from sales and marketing people. So they think that they can just make wild promises to every customer they talk to. How would things change if your retailer/service center made the sales people repair the computers that they push onto customers? How about if Apple made their hardware designers work in the repair shops on a regular basis? Would the hardware designers be afraid to show their faces in the repair shop, knowing all the trouble that they cause for technicians? At least the other technicians would know whose cars to scrape with a key and throw eggs at.



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    very funny

    ............



    Yeah I have made my first few Mac sales (yes, again OMFG bloody miracle) ... I know if I get sucked into sales targets and all this stuff then it becomes counter-productive. I like to look at things from a branding and image perspective of the reseller, and try to approach it as a Semi-AppleGenius that knows, feels, and really thinks that someone would be better off in most cases on a Mac than a PC, or use a Mac alongside their PC, etc. etc. I've looked at Office for Mac and iWork '06 interoperability, and am kinda keeping tabs on Parallels 3188 so I know what's at stake. And also the iPods are pretty durable, my [Dad's] Shuffle 2nd gen is a pre-requisite for my runs. Survived a bit of rain as well.



    There are numbers to be calculated at the end of the day/ week/ month/ etc. But then again there's a lot of intangible image, goodwill, research, branding factors that needs *at least* some integrity, I believe, or some just plain common sense of not badgering people, that do make companies successful. Nothing is perfect, but personally, my aim is to try and not be an ass.



    In Asia things are a bit different though, people are willing to buy stuff if they get it cheap cheap cheap and then when it craps out they bitch a bit but usually then they're off looking for the next bargain.
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  • Reply 184 of 283
    kareliakarelia Posts: 525member
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    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    Unfortunately, it seems that marketing departments and sales people are only interested in pushing products out the door and ringing up the cash register. All service issues afterwards are not their problem. I've seen this all the time at stores like CompUSA. The slick talking salesmen tell customers everything they want to hear: Buy this product and if you have any problems, you'll be first in line at the service department! You'll get your computer back the same day! They can give you a free loaner computer, etc...



    The salesmen do this because they are not the ones who have to spend time fixing the damn things. There is no sense of accountability from sales and marketing people. So they think that they can just make wild promises to every customer they talk to. How would things change if your retailer/service center made the sales people repair the computers that they push onto customers? How about if Apple made their hardware designers work in the repair shops on a regular basis? Would the hardware designers be afraid to show their faces in the repair shop, knowing all the trouble that they cause for technicians? At least the other technicians would know whose cars to scrape with a key and throw eggs at.



    That's very true. I have often cursed the Apple designers for messing with a good design, a perfect example of which is the transition to tthe iSight iMacs, and for the mere existance of the eMac. But I don't fit into your description, luckily, because right after I get done selling a new iMac or MacBook Pro, I go into the back room and begin to fix those very same machines. Being both a sales outlet and service center for Macs, it's common for us to multi-task, or be jacks-of-all-trades. So when I describe the rigid and reliable design of a Mac mini or a MacBook Pro, I know what I'm talking about. When I tell someone buying from our store gets them priority repair service, I have the first-hand ability to back it up.
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  • Reply 185 of 283
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    Many serial numbers are in difficult to read places. Many devices have them on the bottom, or even inside the unit.



    In the About This Mac screen in the Apple menu if you click on the Version number twice you can get the serial number...
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  • Reply 186 of 283
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
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    In the About This Mac screen in the Apple menu if you click on the Version number twice you can get the serial number...



    I think most of us know that. I was pointing out that they can be hard to find on many products.
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  • Reply 187 of 283
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
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    I think most of us know that. I was pointing out that they can be hard to find on many products.



    Well, sorrreeee! No need to get all nippy with me, old man... :P
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  • Reply 188 of 283
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
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    Well, sorrreeee! No need to get all nippy with me, old man... :P



    You are strange. You attempt to correct me. When I point out that we know it, and that I'm making a point, you get upset.



    Does this always happen to you?
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  • Reply 189 of 283
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    In the About This Mac screen in the Apple menu if you click on the Version number twice you can get the serial number...



    OMFG I DID not know that. That is cool. ...I don't have to go into SystemProfiler now. And yeah, just ignore Melgross...
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  • Reply 190 of 283
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    We can always dream about Apple implimenting hot pluggable drives.

    As far as I'm concerned, they should do that for the Mac Pro.

    But, I'd love to see one in the iMac. Push a button, the drive dismounts, and pops out a bit so you can remove it. Hot, hot, hot!!!



    I just read a brochure today (came nestled in the newspaper) from our good friends at HP|Compaq. They have it now for the HP Vista Home Media or something thingymajig. Pop out "media" external drive. I assume it is well thermal-cased-etc. to be portable and not burn your fingers when you pop it out.
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  • Reply 191 of 283
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    OMFG I DID not know that. That is cool. ...I don't have to go into SystemProfiler now. And yeah, just ignore Melgross...



    You're serious?





    You can also do this at the login screen with the ability to switch between your S/N, date/time, IP address, and network name.



    macosxhints.com and then macworld.com had articles on how to change the default using the Terminal, but i can't find it.
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  • Reply 192 of 283
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
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    But I had to "go underground" since like I said now actually *OMFG* (seriously, it's a bloody miracle) working within Apple/ IT/ Business /Education circles.



    Congrats on the job, dude.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post


    There are numbers to be calculated at the end of the day/ week/ month/ etc. But then again there's a lot of intangible image, goodwill, research, branding factors that needs *at least* some integrity, I believe



    Hear hear.
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  • Reply 193 of 283
    bageljoeybageljoey Posts: 2,009member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    You are strange. You attempt to correct me. When I point out that we know it, and that I'm making a point, you get upset.



    Does this always happen to you?



    You might look at this last question yourself.

    Often, when there is a discussion already going on, and someone feels they have some information to add they quote the last word from the discussion. It does not always mean that they are directing that comment only to (or directly at) the poster they quoted. Maybe its lazy, but its not, I don't think, malicious.

    Nevertheless, your response is always indignation that someone is questioning your point or your knowledge.

    Relax a little. Your reputation is secure.
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  • Reply 194 of 283
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
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    I just read a brochure today (came nestled in the newspaper) from our good friends at HP|Compaq. They have it now for the HP Vista Home Media or something thingymajig. Pop out "media" external drive. I assume it is well thermal-cased-etc. to be portable and not burn your fingers when you pop it out.



    HP has had that for over a year. HP's is in an enclosure, but it doesn't have to be. Drives can get pretty warm, but in my experience, even with some older 15k drives, they really don't get that hot such as to risk burns. Proper system cooling is supposed to keep it manageable.
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  • Reply 195 of 283
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Relax a little. Your reputation is secure.



    Hardly! I know what he did last night and whom he did it with. \
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  • Reply 196 of 283
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    oops!!
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  • Reply 197 of 283
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post


    I just read a brochure today (came nestled in the newspaper) from our good friends at HP|Compaq. They have it now for the HP Vista Home Media or something thingymajig. Pop out "media" external drive. I assume it is well thermal-cased-etc. to be portable and not burn your fingers when you pop it out.



    Yeah, but that's not Apple. I still have my hopes.



    I've never burned my fingers on any of mine. It just needs a thin plastic sleeve. The newer cases often don't even have that. My Firmtek cases, for example, don't.
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  • Reply 198 of 283
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bageljoey View Post


    You might look at this last question yourself.

    Often, when there is a discussion already going on, and someone feels they have some information to add they quote the last word from the discussion. It does not always mean that they are directing that comment only to (or directly at) the poster they quoted. Maybe its lazy, but its not, I don't think, malicious.

    Nevertheless, your response is always indignation that someone is questioning your point or your knowledge.

    Relax a little. Your reputation is secure.



    When I do that to someone they always complain. I then have to apologise. Why should I be different?
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  • Reply 199 of 283
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
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    Hardly! I know what he did last night and whom he did it with. \



    That's ok, I wouldn't hide it from you.
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  • Reply 200 of 283
    bageljoeybageljoey Posts: 2,009member
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    When I do that to someone they always complain. I then have to apologise. Why should I be different?



    OK then.
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