Apple's iMac overhaul tracking for mid-to-late summer

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  • Reply 121 of 171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mrtotes View Post


    I'm totally with you on the G4 iMac design. 20" floating LCD - Ive's work at it's best.. but wireless power supply??? don't the laws of physics preclude such a beast. Short of a massive induction field it's not possible.



    Actually a wireless power supply isn't such a crazy proposal, scientists have developed primitive wireless power supplies already. Of course the technology in any near future iMac is not at all likely. See http://www.conita.com/News/59.htm
  • Reply 122 of 171
    mrtotesmrtotes Posts: 760member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rowanicus View Post


    Actually a wireless power supply isn't such a crazy proposal, scientists have developed primitive wireless power supplies already. Of course the technology in any near future iMac is not at all likely. See http://www.conita.com/News/59.htm



    That link's not working for me.... I realise you could have a large magnetic field or high power RF to transfer energy wirelessly but you couldn't have a human operator for any device like that.
  • Reply 123 of 171
    shadowshadow Posts: 373member
    I will buy a new iMac as soon as it is updated. Will need Leopard update later

    I am afraid I will have one more problem: iMac comes with iLife suite bundled. The retail version of the OS does not ( at least this was the case with Tiger ). I may need to upgrade them too Good for Apple, bad for my wallet.

    Apple NEVER offered coupons for a future OS upgrade and NEVER offered a lower upgrade price for OS X.



    <WishfulThinking>

    This time around, Apple may change this for 2 reasons:

    1. This will help to report much higher Leopard sales after the first month following the release (like Microsoft did with Vista).

    2. This will attract more switchers who are used to this kind of promotions.

    </WishfulThinking>


    But Apple may choose to make more money for upgrades instead
  • Reply 124 of 171
    mr omr o Posts: 1,046member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shadow View Post


    I will buy a new iMac as soon as it is updated. Will need Leopard update later I am afraid I will have one more problem: iMac comes with iLife suite bundled. The retail version of the OS does not ( at least this was the case with Tiger ). I may need to upgrade them too Good for Apple, bad for my wallet. Apple NEVER offered coupons for a future OS upgrade and NEVER offered a lower upgrade price for OS X.



    Let's do the math:



    129$ for Leopard + 79$ for iLife = 208$



    If you buy your iMac before September 16, you get a free iPod after mail in rebate (199$).



    >> 208$ - 199$ = -9$



    You will eventually loose ? 9$
  • Reply 125 of 171
    brunobruinbrunobruin Posts: 552member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shadow View Post


    Apple NEVER offered coupons for a future OS upgrade and NEVER offered a lower upgrade price for OS X.



    Actually, they did offer the 10.1 upgrade to purchases of 10.0 - all you had to do was present your coupon for a free copy, or get one by mail for $10.



    And typically, once they announce a shipping date for an OS upgrade, they usually set a date after which purchasers of a new Mac can get the upgrade for a reduced price (I think last time it was $20). They don't want hardware sales to stop for a month while people wait for the new OS to be included, and they also can't make it the preinstalled system on every line at the flip of a switch. There are also machines in inventory that will be sold after the 10.5 launch that still have 10.4, and they do try to do right by those customers who might assume they're getting Leopard.
  • Reply 126 of 171
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mr O View Post


    Let's do the math:



    129$ for Leopard + 79$ for iLife = 208$



    If you buy your iMac before September 16, you get a free iPod after mail in rebate (199$).



    >> 208$ - 199$ = -9$



    You will eventually loose ? 9$



    Not everyone is an edu. customer....
  • Reply 127 of 171
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rowanicus View Post


    Actually a wireless power supply isn't such a crazy proposal, scientists have developed primitive wireless power supplies already. Of course the technology in any near future iMac is not at all likely. See http://www.conita.com/News/59.html



    Your URL needed correcting.



    I don't think it's that special, but all such means of transferring power with wires are inefficient, expensive or just not practical for anything like a computer.
  • Reply 128 of 171
    Bruce Young said:



    "And if they go through with dropping the 17" iMac -- their only all-in-one that fits the $1000 and sub low-end range -- and the Mac mini, as some rumor posts suggest, they will be losing a lot of potential customers from the Mac fold."



    To which I guess:



    If the 17" goes away, they'll likely drop the prices of the 20 and the 24. I don't see this hurting education. Maybe back in the CRT days. Not now though.



    Then Bruce says:



    "(as always, these are my opinions, and i encourage you all to register your considered opinions and wishes with Apple Feedback (and store staff) as I do. As I believe that Apple probably doesn't read the forums for their design and marketing direction -- but, I could be wrong!). :



    For which I gasped:



    ACK! I would caution anyone from registering an opinion with Apple Retail Store staff. Lest you give Ron Johnson another "idea" on how Apple will soon charge customers for registering their opinions with retail store staff.



  • Reply 129 of 171
    Why do all of the articles refer to Apple as "the Cupertino-based Mac maker" at least once?\ As opposed to the other Mac maker? It just gets annoying after a while.
  • Reply 130 of 171
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bobmarksdale View Post


    Why do all of the articles refer to Apple as "the Cupertino-based Mac maker" at least once?\ As opposed to the other Mac maker? It just gets annoying after a while.



    It's better than continually referring to Apple as the "iPod maker" and Apple retail stores as the "iPod Store".
  • Reply 131 of 171
    I bought a 24" w/ the 7600 when they came out. I find it VERY aesthetically pleasing and the best value for the dollar if you're in need of a higher-end desktop system.



    Why don't they simply offer different/faster processor(s), more graphic card options, etc? If they completely change the case it's not going to match this one when the new model comes out and they're sitting on my desk next to each other Offer it in funky colors or aluminum, fine... That'll get market share! Just leave white available for me...



    Some *minor* things they could do with the enclosure that would me happy:

    • make the iSight swivel or detachable in some form or another... being able to pan w/o lifting a 50# computer would be nice!

    • come up with a better remote control mounting so the damn thing isn't always falling onto my desk

    • include the VESA mount as a standard and adapt the foot pedestal to it, if not offer their own VESA solutions

    • cleanly put the power button, a headphone port, and maybe a few other things on the chin



    And not related to the iMac specifically:

    • make a mouse better suited for gaming, or at the very least, something ergonomic instead of the same damn ten year-old flat bottom bar of soap!

    • along with it a Microsoft/PC-style keyboard that has music control and application buttons and the like (sorry Apple, volume is *not* enough, it's 2007...)



    And on that last note, I have yet to use a factory USB Mac keyboard/mouse for any length of time to date...
  • Reply 132 of 171
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    It's better than continually referring to Apple as the "iPod maker" and Apple retail stores as the "iPod Store".



    That is true, but best of all, is just referring to the company as "Apple". I see the other references only as awkward and unnecessary ways to insert commonly known or irrelevant information.



    This is the worst one I've seen in a while:

    Quote:

    "Apple did not state which company is manufacturing the drive for the new iPods, but sources close to Hitachi confirmed it is the Japanese computing giant."



    http://www.appleinsider.com/news.php?id=338
  • Reply 133 of 171
    sswiftsswift Posts: 13member
    Why is it that Apple can make such great computers yet their mice are simply pitiful.
  • Reply 134 of 171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shadow View Post


    I will buy a new iMac as soon as it is updated. Will need Leopard update later

    I am afraid I will have one more problem: iMac comes with iLife suite bundled. The retail version of the OS does not ( at least this was the case with Tiger ). I may need to upgrade them too



    I too am waiting - currently tolerating my 17" G4 on 10.3.9.



    I'm waiting not just for the new design, but getting Penryn is just as important to me. People who buy into the new design in September will only be king of the hill for a few short months before these new CPUs appear. Hopefully Apple will move to Penryn quickly too. I'm hoping that the performance gain between Merom and Penryn will make this waiting worthwhile.



    As a bonus, iLife 08 might be shipping too by then and/or some other iMac improvements (16x DVD or even Blu-Ray...). But Leopard + Penryn is what will make me open my wallet for the first time in 5 years.
  • Reply 135 of 171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mrtotes View Post


    That link's not working for me.... I realise you could have a large magnetic field or high power RF to transfer energy wirelessly but you couldn't have a human operator for any device like that.



    Sorry, I don't know why that link isn't working. It's called Witricity i think so you could look it up in google if you want. They say it works using resonance, over five metres, and is completely harmless to humans. To be honest I don't know the science behind it, so you're best to look it up if you're interested.
  • Reply 136 of 171
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sswift View Post


    Why is it that Apple can make such great computers yet their mice are simply pitiful.



    Whoa, horsie! Probably, you think their mice are pitiful because you like a huge majority of users have been trained by PC side mouses to hold your mouse incorrectly. Instead of resting your full hand on the mouse, you should grip it on the sides with your thumb and ring finger. This is more ergonomic and prevents stress injuries caused by resting the whole hand on the mouse.
  • Reply 137 of 171
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by meelash View Post


    Whoa, horsie! Probably, you think their mice are pitiful because you like a huge majority of users have been trained by PC side mouses to hold your mouse incorrectly. Instead of resting your full hand on the mouse, you should grip it on the sides with your thumb and ring finger. This is more ergonomic and prevents stress injuries caused by resting the whole hand on the mouse.



    That doesn't encapsulate all problems with Apple mice. I hold mice exactly like you suggest but I still think that Apple mice are substandard.
  • Reply 138 of 171
    so, what are the odds of a refresh of the imac line between now and the redesign? if such a refresh were in order, when would it most likely happen?
  • Reply 139 of 171
    fletchfletch Posts: 74member
    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but do you think Apple will consider a VGA port on the back of the new iMacs so people can play consoles on them?
  • Reply 140 of 171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fletch View Post


    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but do you think Apple will consider a VGA port on the back of the new iMacs so people can play consoles on them?





    that would be cool so then i could use my XBOX on my iMac instead of having to have a TV in my room too!
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