Apple unveils iPod touch and iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store

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  • Reply 241 of 311
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
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    Originally Posted by crApple View Post


    So 6 generations and they still haven't figured out how to put an FM radio in? How many years will it take for them to add a feature that almost every other MP3 player has had for years?! What genius decided it should store contacts and calendar information (that is most likely already stored in the users phone, computer, work computer, email account, etc.) but not have a radio?



    People still go on about this?



    The iPod is by far the best selling mp3 player out there. So clearly having a radio isn't that important to most people. There is the iPod radio remote for those who really want it. Also, who wants to listen to the radio when they've got a jukebox full of their own music to listen to?
  • Reply 242 of 311
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
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    Originally Posted by mr O View Post


    The iPhone's dock has got a grey mesh in the background, while the iPod Touch's dock is a shiny black floor



    Yes, and reflections. But I figure Apple is so into reflections that the iPhone will get it soon too.
  • Reply 243 of 311
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    I thought the Apple controller for the ATV was supposed to do that for you. That was the entire point. Control your computers video's and music from your living room. You shouldn't need an iPod to do that.



    If you do, then something is wrong.



    aTV can change the channels on your eyeTV for you? Nice.



    aTV can let you change your iTunes settings with the TV off? Nice.



    aTV can close your blinds and drop your screen? Nice.



    Or maybe a iPod sized graphical remote is something useful? Even without BT and IR if your media hub is a computer. Coupling Ajax, PHP and a iPod Touch with a media center computer (PC or Mac) should make for a powerful HT system with an elegant little remote.



    Couple it with X10 or some other home automation system and you can control your entire HT and house from your iPod touch.



    If you can't think even a little outside the box then something is wrong.
  • Reply 244 of 311
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    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


    Peet's Coffee is the Reason Starbucks exists, at all. They learned from Peet himself. Starbucks founders then sold to others who made Starbucks what it is today.



    Research about Starbucks and trendy coffee more deeply next time.



    Go Peet's Coffee. However my point was that the widespread extent of the Starbucks empire brought decent coffee worldwide, which resulted in the backlash of indie coffee stores.



    So if there was no Starbucks, there'd be Peet's Coffee all by themselves in California and a couple other places. Diner coffee everywhere else, outside of a few large cities and a couple tourist towns.





    Um, on-topic. The iPod Touch is pretty darn cool, but given the state of WiFi outside North America a 3G iPhone continues to be by far the more useful device. Too bad it doesn't exist yet.
  • Reply 245 of 311
    takeotakeo Posts: 446member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    I think we're talking past each other. If you have an ATv, then correct my possible understanding. If you don't, then perhaps, I might be correcting yours.



    Hey melgross. I do know about the AppleTV... and I have thought about getting one... it is kinda cool... but you see... I want the interface in my hand Not on a screen being controlled with a push button remote. I realize now... based on what came out yesterday... that it may be a while (maybe years) before this become reality. What would be really cool would be if the iPod Touch could be used to view and control the contents of an AppleTV!!!! That would be awesome.
  • Reply 246 of 311
    takeotakeo Posts: 446member
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    Originally Posted by vinea View Post


    aTV can change the channels on your eyeTV for you? Nice.



    aTV can let you change your iTunes settings with the TV off? Nice.



    aTV can close your blinds and drop your screen? Nice.



    Or maybe a iPod sized graphical remote is something useful? Even without BT and IR if your media hub is a computer. Coupling Ajax, PHP and a iPod Touch with a media center computer (PC or Mac) should make for a powerful HT system with an elegant little remote.



    Couple it with X10 or some other home automation system and you can control your entire HT and house from your iPod touch.



    Exactly. That's what I'm talkin' about!!! I just wish I had the geek skills to make that happen
  • Reply 247 of 311
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
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    Originally Posted by Takeo View Post


    Exactly. That's what I'm talkin' about!!! I just wish I had the geek skills to make that happen



    Geek skills are easy to buy with a checkbook. Just pick a young geek that wants a 360 or PS3 and doesn't have the $$$ for one.
  • Reply 248 of 311
    Kormac77.



    Vindicated, after all of these years.



  • Reply 249 of 311
    jubelumjubelum Posts: 4,490member
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    Originally Posted by desarc View Post


    it's a SERIOUS insult to fans and early adopters to drop the price that much and that fast. i will NEVER be a day 1 adopter again. i'm going to sit it out and make sure all the bugs have been taken care of, and wait for a price drop or spec boost.

    .



    That is your choice. You are the almighty consumer, you spend the money, you make the choice.



    Bleeding-edge technology costs money. Deal with it. If you have to be the coolest, "first kid on your block" then that is your decision- not Apple's. It's not an "insult" or a "slight" or anything of the sort- they provided a product at a price, you felt it was a good value and made the purchase. The phone has not lost any of its value to you- it still does what it does when you accepted the trade for your money at the previous price. You freely entered in to the transaction. How in the hell do you live with purchasing ANY technology that drops in price. It's Unabomber time.



    *NEWS FLASH*- Technology gets cheaper as a function of time. In 99% of cases.



    In short... grow up.
  • Reply 250 of 311
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    Originally Posted by FLOOeY View Post


    Does anyone know if it would be possible to ad iPhone widgets such as notes, games, etc. to the iPod touch?



    You're on to something, my friend. Since both devices run OSX (clearly), there should be a way to move apps between them. Not an easy way, mind you, but I don't see why someone couldn't get, for instance, the iPhone's mail app onto the iPod touch if they tried really hard.
  • Reply 251 of 311
    jubelumjubelum Posts: 4,490member
    Apple relents with $100 credit for early-adopting crybabies.



    Another win for Steve- $100 in store credit builds on Apple sales, contributes to larger purchases, and means much less than $100 to apple considering the margins.
  • Reply 252 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
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    Originally Posted by flaminuggboot View Post


    I often bemused by the fact that any Anglo/American forum often descends into this sort of banter. Especially as this is meant to be one discussing Apple products, there seems to be a love/hate relationship between the Americans and British, we support each others ill-conceived foreign policy initiatives but then bicker over whether it's spelt programme or program, get over it!



    It's fun!



    This isn't something we get into to arouse people's passions.



    We do need a break from the mainline storyline for a while, and this does it.
  • Reply 253 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    What you describe requires both an ATV and a TV. The TV is in a different room to the Hi-Fi so there would be no screen to look at. I don't see the point of the ATV and doubt I will ever get one.



    That actually IS the point to the ATv.



    You're saying that you don't want to get the product that Apple made to do EXACTLY what you want to do, but that you want to use a product to do what Apple DIDN'T intend it to do.



    How does that make sense?
  • Reply 254 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by crApple View Post


    So 6 generations and they still haven't figured out how to put an FM radio in? How many years will it take for them to add a feature that almost every other MP3 player has had for years?! What genius decided it should store contacts and calendar information (that is most likely already stored in the users phone, computer, work computer, email account, etc.) but not have a radio?



    I'm sure that Apple has "figured" that out.



    They are reasonable in not putting one in, because apparently, very few people want one.



    If it were such a big deal, Apple's players would never have sold so well from the very beginning. But, they have, which validates

    Apple's position.



    That doesn't mean that there isn't a small, vocal, minority who does want a tuner. But, many of them are satisfied by Apple's accessory, as well as those made by third parties, and the rest are far too small an audience for Apple to want to raise the price for everyone else to be able to accommodate them.
  • Reply 255 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vinea View Post


    aTV can change the channels on your eyeTV for you? Nice.



    aTV can let you change your iTunes settings with the TV off? Nice.



    aTV can close your blinds and drop your screen? Nice.



    Or maybe a iPod sized graphical remote is something useful? Even without BT and IR if your media hub is a computer. Coupling Ajax, PHP and a iPod Touch with a media center computer (PC or Mac) should make for a powerful HT system with an elegant little remote.



    Couple it with X10 or some other home automation system and you can control your entire HT and house from your iPod touch.



    If you can't think even a little outside the box then something is wrong.



    He wasn't talking about any of that, as you know.
  • Reply 256 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Takeo View Post


    Hey melgross. I do know about the AppleTV... and I have thought about getting one... it is kinda cool... but you see... I want the interface in my hand Not on a screen being controlled with a push button remote. I realize now... based on what came out yesterday... that it may be a while (maybe years) before this become reality. What would be really cool would be if the iPod Touch could be used to view and control the contents of an AppleTV!!!! That would be awesome.



    Possibly third party software might be able to do that at some point, if enough people seem to want it.



    I have remote control software on my Treo 700p, but that has an infra-red output, so I can control several devices through that.



    I see no reason why WiFi can't be used to control devices with WiFi.
  • Reply 257 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Takeo View Post


    Exactly. That's what I'm talkin' about!!! I just wish I had the geek skills to make that happen



    Except that you didn't say any of that to me!\
  • Reply 258 of 311
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by crApple View Post


    So 6 generations and they still haven't figured out how to put an FM radio in? How many years will it take for them to add a feature that almost every other MP3 player has had for years?! What genius decided it should store contacts and calendar information (that is most likely already stored in the users phone, computer, work computer, email account, etc.) but not have a radio?



  • Reply 259 of 311
    takeotakeo Posts: 446member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    That actually IS the point to the ATv.



    You're saying that you don't want to get the product that Apple made to do EXACTLY what you want to do, but that you want to use a product to do what Apple DIDN'T intend it to do.



    How does that make sense?



    mel... my ideal is to have the graphical interface in my hand... not on a remote screen. Apple TV does not offer that.
  • Reply 260 of 311
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Takeo View Post


    mel... my ideal is to have the graphical interface in my hand... not on a remote screen. Apple TV does not offer that.



    but a remote screen would kick so much ass and would give the iphone almost unlimited possibilites.
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