As someone who's watched you surface and resurface and rererereresurface on a certain other discussion board, I can say with much confidence that while you may one day amount to something, it'll never be $100m a year.
I also have this slight feeling being told by one's mom that microwave ovens and WiFi networks will destroy your brain is slightly more indoctrinating (or maybe just freaking dumb?) than attending public school.
Yeah so? If I didn't want to be "found out" here, I wouldn't have posted that whole mini-biography.
I've only registered once here at appleinsider, and I plan to keep it that way. I haven't even been temporarily banned from this place, and i've never been annoying or rude here. Can we get back on topic please?
SDW2001, I have to thank you. You seem like an extremely intelligent, experienced person, and I will take seriously many of the things you've told me. I just can't help but have a negative opinion of schools when I look around and see all these girls dressed the same, talking the same, wearing the same makeup. It's as if there's some cloning process going on inside there. And it very well might be that that's simply what happens when you cram lots of people of the same age into the same place at the same time.. but that also makes it the school's fault for putting all these kids in an unnatural environment.
A few days ago, my family was watching videos of when I was 3 or 4 years old.. and I was astounded by how brilliant and perfect my parents raised me and my brothers. Everything was natural. We slept in a family bed, we all went to bed at the same time.. there was no "problems about bedtime" and "trying to put the kids to bed". We'd all just kind of wind down together like normal animals. I wasn't exposed to any harmful or brainwashing media until I was at least 10 years old. We lived out in the middle of nowhere, and me and my siblings were free to go wherever we wanted, and fully shape into the human beings that we are, free of restraint, physical or mental. It really blew my mind watching those videos.. and I sincerely thanked my parents afterwards. There was a period in there where I was angry at them for raising me in a "bubble" but now I cannot thank them enough.
You asked way too many questions for me to answer right now. I've got chemistry class in 10 minutes. I'll write you a PM when I get home.
Well, I watched the video. You'll find it quite ironic that You tube is blocked at my school
Anyway, my thoughts: I think it's not so much that it shows what a "brainwashing machine" is, but rather that the video was made with the intent of making it look like that. In other words, it's deliberately creating that perception, or trying to.
I say "trying to" because it both succeeds and fails. There are three kinds of clips in that film:
1. Clips that succeed in your goal of portraying Public Education a certain way. One example is the school bus scene near the beginning.
2. Clips that can be interpreted different ways based on experience and POV. For example, you show elementary children "being brainwashed." I see a group of children actively engaged in learning. Really.
3. Clips that fail to communicate your POV because the kids don't look as you describe them. Closer to the end, you show kids leaving high school. They look happy, they have a bounce in their steps. They shake hands with a guy in a suit...not sure who that is supposed to be. Unless you are going for "I have to get the hell outta here ight now, yeeehaw," I don't see them as supporting your point of view.
As an aside, elementary classrooms where I teacher don't look like those. They are bright and colorful and generally encourage creativity as much as possible. There are problems at the elementary to be sure, such as an over emphasis on assessment, but the point is the appearance here. I'm not just talking about physical objects (black boards don't exist for example, we have white boards...which makes a bif difference...or so I've found). I'm also talking about the appearance of the kids. Many classrooms have kids actively doing whatever activity. I know my own classroom probably looks like a circus. If you saw what happens in my school, I think you'd have a very different point of view. And my school's not alone...it's just a good, modern school.
While his post comes off as being a bit condescending (sounds as if it was written by someone without much "life experience"), I tend to agree with a lot of it. I think "indoctrinated" is a better term for it than "brainwashed" though. (Check your dictionary, they're different.)
Kids who aren't tought differently, either at home or by truly great teachers (there are many), tend to come out of the public school system ready to go sit in a cubicle 9-5, 5 days a week, collect a meager paycheck and buy things on credit. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's what I see.
They learn to spend 8 hours a day in a "school" to get about 2+1/2 hours worth of education. And then they are expected to do "homework" every night for yet another hour. Where do the public school kids ever get a chance to socialize ???
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I am sorry to hear that you were homeschooled your whole life. I'm not a big fan of that as I think much of what is valuable in school is mixing with chums.
I hear that a lot... it's not a valid argument against homeschooling. My kids actually socialize more than their "peers" that go to the public schools. They do various extra-curricular activities throughout the neighborhood and are constantly in contact with friends their age. Both "school" kids as well as other homeschooled kids. BUT... They also have contact with kids older and younger than them by several years (not just passing in a hallway, but actual interaction.) They are also able to interact in an intelligent way with the many adults they are exposed to on a daily basis. (Hopefully they'll retain this talent as they enter their teenage years. )
How about field trips?... go to a museum on Friday with a bus full of kids where there are another 20 busses full of kids already there?... Or go to that museum on a tuesday morning with the family, when no one else is there and they get a full personalized tour from a docent who doesn't have anyone else to deal with that day? Or call ahead a month before you visit the state capitol on a Wednesday afternoon and actually get to meet your senator or congressman in a situation where they'll take 10 minutes to actually TALK to the 4 kids visiting them??
Homeschooling's not for everyone ... many parents were indoctrinated themselves to such a degree that they don't think it's a viable solution. But, having used both systems, I can say with certainty that homeschooling is a MUCH better way to educate children than today's public school system.
Besides, by being homeschooled, my kids get to do all their computer based work on a Mac!!
As for the video, while it was just a edit of stock footage, he certainly put it together much better than I could have done. (At least, I couldn't have done it that well without a lot of practice and self-education first.) All the way through it I kept thinking "proles"... was quite pleased to see the Orwell reference at the end!
While his post comes off as being a bit condescending (sounds as if it was written by someone without much "life experience"), I tend to agree with a lot of it. I think "indoctrinated" is a better term for it than "brainwashed" though. (Check your dictionary, they're different.)
Kids who aren't tought differently, either at home or by truly great teachers (there are many), tend to come out of the public school system ready to go sit in a cubicle 9-5, 5 days a week, collect a meager paycheck and buy things on credit. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's what I see.
They learn to spend 8 hours a day in a "school" to get about 2+1/2 hours worth of education. And then they are expected to do "homework" every night for yet another hour. Where do the public school kids ever get a chance to socialize ???
I hear that a lot... it's not a valid argument against homeschooling. My kids actually socialize more than their "peers" that go to the public schools. They do various extra-curricular activities throughout the neighborhood and are constantly in contact with friends their age. Both "school" kids as well as other homeschooled kids. BUT... They also have contact with kids older and younger than them by several years (not just passing in a hallway, but actual interaction.) They are also able to interact in an intelligent way with the many adults they are exposed to on a daily basis. (Hopefully they'll retain this talent as they enter their teenage years. )
How about field trips?... go to a museum on Friday with a bus full of kids where there are another 20 busses full of kids already there?... Or go to that museum on a tuesday morning with the family, when no one else is there and they get a full personalized tour from a docent who doesn't have anyone else to deal with that day? Or call ahead a month before you visit the state capitol on a Wednesday afternoon and actually get to meet your senator or congressman in a situation where they'll take 10 minutes to actually TALK to the 4 kids visiting them??
Homeschooling's not for everyone ... many parents were indoctrinated themselves to such a degree that they don't think it's a viable solution. But, having used both systems, I can say with certainty that homeschooling is a MUCH better way to educate children than today's public school system.
Besides, by being homeschooled, my kids get to do all their computer based work on a Mac!!
As for the video, while it was just a edit of stock footage, he certainly put it together much better than I could have done. (At least, I couldn't have done it that well without a lot of practice and self-education first.) All the way through it I kept thinking "proles"... was quite pleased to see the Orwell reference at the end!
Thank you for the support behind my point of view, and thank you for the compliments on my video. I'm sorry for coming across condescending. I'm working on that.
Here is a link to a video of me conducting my second symphony at the New England Music Camp. I was limited to one player per instrument, and we didn't have much time to rehearse, but the music is there. And keep in mind this was over two years ago.. my conducting has improved since then.
I know you based on the plenty of assertions you've made. If thy weren't supposed to represent who you are, you were either wasting your (and everyone else's time) making them, or you deliberately tried to come off as a fool, which only makes me think less of you.
I made a music video about Public School, using the track "Auschwitz-Birkenau" from the Schindler's List Soundtrack, as the music.
I use this music because I think that School is one of the most evil creations ever. It ruins children, and the damage is permanent. They come out of high school completely brainwashed, having negative views on life, and a very cynical attitude.
I at least endorse you: not so much the opinion in entirety, but at least the fact that you said what you wanted to say. You'll gain wisdom in time, and in all likelihood will find your opinions changing, but don't ever succumb to the blandness of what you are told must be so.
proof that your schooling has brainwashed you. The irony!
Excuse me?
I didn't say I would bow down to him like he's a God and worship every word. What I meant was he made some valid points that I could keep in mind. Overall, nothing about my opinions or my state of mind has changed.
I didn't say I would bow down to him like he's a God and worship every word. What I meant was he made some valid points that I could keep in mind. Overall, nothing about my opinions or my state of mind has changed.
dont worry it wasn't directed at you!. There is afterall a first time for everything.
I hear that a lot... it's not a valid argument against homeschooling.
You agree with the tirade against public schools and for homeschooling because you are a homeschooling parent yourself. Oh...
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My kids actually socialize more than their "peers" that go to the public schools.
You don't know that since you have no "control group" i.e. a comparison of your kids in public school vs. your kids in homeschool in order to evaluate the difference.
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They do various extra-curricular activities throughout the neighborhood and are constantly in contact with friends their age. Both "school" kids as well as other homeschooled kids. BUT... They also have contact with kids older and younger than them by several years (not just passing in a hallway, but actual interaction.) They are also able to interact in an intelligent way with the many adults they are exposed to on a daily basis. (Hopefully they'll retain this talent as they enter their teenage years. )
How about field trips?... go to a museum on Friday with a bus full of kids where there are another 20 busses full of kids already there?... Or go to that museum on a tuesday morning with the family, when no one else is there and they get a full personalized tour from a docent who doesn't have anyone else to deal with that day? Or call ahead a month before you visit the state capitol on a Wednesday afternoon and actually get to meet your senator or congressman in a situation where they'll take 10 minutes to actually TALK to the 4 kids visiting them??
Sounds like one big family vacation! Nice, but if you watch those "Family Vacation" movies, there's a reason why the father says stuff like you are saying right now, and the kids are grimacing in the back of the car.
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Homeschooling's not for everyone ... many parents were indoctrinated themselves to such a degree that they don't think it's a viable solution.
"Indoctrinated" is a word that you use for a belief system with which you do not agree, but don't consider your own views equally "indoctrinated" or the possbility that going to a school run by professionals and full of peers is better than moping around the kitchen all day with mom and a math book.
Indoctrination is an interesting concept... but viewing all public school followed by college followed by careers as one big indoctrination is such tired, boring, laundry. My own view is that there are many paths, but you severely limit those paths for your kids by keeping them in your kitchen all day, funky field trips notwithstanding.
The tragedy is when someone who has talent and promise is unable to develop into their chosen field because they misinterpreted preparation as "indoctrination."
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But, having used both systems, I can say with certainty that homeschooling is a MUCH better way to educate children than today's public school system.
That is so general as to be meaningless. You may be an excellent teacher to your kids, but on the other hand, they may be better served by a more critical thinker.
A bad school is a bad school, and it may be better to teach them at home than at a bad school. But there are great schools all over the place, and it's a shame when a kid doesn't have the encouragement to go to one because their parent is a zealot.
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Besides, by being homeschooled, my kids get to do all their computer based work on a Mac!!
As a cat, If I were homeschooled, it is highly doubtful I would ever use a Mac let alone a computer. If I were homeschooled, chances are I wouldn't even be able to clean my own litterbox.
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All the way through it I kept thinking "proles"... was quite pleased to see the Orwell reference at the end!
An obvious reference, following an obvious diatribe. There's nothing original, startling, or rebellious about any of this. It's hackneyed. It's boring. And that, for anyone who wants to be a musician, is the cardinal sin.
Here is a link to a video of me conducting my second symphony at the New England Music Camp. I was limited to one player per instrument, and we didn't have much time to rehearse, but the music is there. And keep in mind this was over two years ago.. my conducting has improved since then.
The arrangement is its best feature, your knowledge of the instruments reveals a good ear.
As a musician, there's a number of things I would say, but i don't want to criticize you here, only encourage you. If you want to succeed in music beyond a music camp that has a reputation for being fun but soft, you need real training...
Feel free to answer the questions above if you can.
You don't know that since you have no "control group" i.e. a comparison of your kids in public school vs. your kids in homeschool in order to evaluate the difference.
Well, actually, I do. They did attend a public school for a couple years. It was one of the top rated school districts in Texas. (I don't have a clue where that would put it on a national level.) The kids were bored. They were neglected as student because they were "easy" for the teachers.
THEY asked to come back home...
As for the "great big family vacation"... we do those too, but the trips mentioned above were not vacations, they were "field trips" that focused on education. But the vacations wouldn't be possible in a public school, because TX requires a minimum number of days in class (regardless of how quickly they ace the standardized tests.) Going on vacation for 3-4 weeks at a time kinda destroys their attendance record.
Not being cats, the kids actually like going on road-trips.
Well, actually, I do. They did attend a public school for a couple years. It was one of the top rated school districts in Texas. (I don't have a clue where that would put it on a national level.) The kids were bored. They were neglected as student because they were "easy" for the teachers.
THEY asked to come back home...
As for the "great big family vacation"... we do those too, but the trips mentioned above were not vacations, they were "field trips" that focused on education. But the vacations wouldn't be possible in a public school, because TX requires a minimum number of days in class (regardless of how quickly they ace the standardized tests.) Going on vacation for 3-4 weeks at a time kinda destroys their attendance record.
Not being cats, the kids actually like going on road-trips.
KingOfSomewhereHot, I wouldn't bother responding to Duddits if I were you. From the way he talks about homeschooling, it's obvious that he won't understand anything that you'd say about what homeschooling is.
When he said "going to a school run by professionals and full of peers is better than moping around the kitchen all day with mom and a math book" that's the point at which I realized that any words directed at this man are a waste of energy. He's lost in the system and the brainwash.
KingOfSomewhereHot, I wouldn't bother responding to Duddits if I were you. From the way he talks about homeschooling, it's obvious that he won't understand anything that you'd say about what homeschooling is.
Who cares about homeschooling. Answer the music questions if you want to have a real conversation and not just be dismissive and smug.
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As someone who's watched you surface and resurface and rererereresurface on a certain other discussion board, I can say with much confidence that while you may one day amount to something, it'll never be $100m a year.
I also have this slight feeling being told by one's mom that microwave ovens and WiFi networks will destroy your brain is slightly more indoctrinating (or maybe just freaking dumb?) than attending public school.
So you think you know me based on online forums?
Wow... just.. wow.
Yeah so? If I didn't want to be "found out" here, I wouldn't have posted that whole mini-biography.
I've only registered once here at appleinsider, and I plan to keep it that way. I haven't even been temporarily banned from this place, and i've never been annoying or rude here. Can we get back on topic please?
SDW2001, I have to thank you. You seem like an extremely intelligent, experienced person, and I will take seriously many of the things you've told me. I just can't help but have a negative opinion of schools when I look around and see all these girls dressed the same, talking the same, wearing the same makeup. It's as if there's some cloning process going on inside there. And it very well might be that that's simply what happens when you cram lots of people of the same age into the same place at the same time.. but that also makes it the school's fault for putting all these kids in an unnatural environment.
A few days ago, my family was watching videos of when I was 3 or 4 years old.. and I was astounded by how brilliant and perfect my parents raised me and my brothers. Everything was natural. We slept in a family bed, we all went to bed at the same time.. there was no "problems about bedtime" and "trying to put the kids to bed". We'd all just kind of wind down together like normal animals. I wasn't exposed to any harmful or brainwashing media until I was at least 10 years old. We lived out in the middle of nowhere, and me and my siblings were free to go wherever we wanted, and fully shape into the human beings that we are, free of restraint, physical or mental. It really blew my mind watching those videos.. and I sincerely thanked my parents afterwards. There was a period in there where I was angry at them for raising me in a "bubble" but now I cannot thank them enough.
You asked way too many questions for me to answer right now. I've got chemistry class in 10 minutes. I'll write you a PM when I get home.
Well, I watched the video. You'll find it quite ironic that You tube is blocked at my school
Anyway, my thoughts: I think it's not so much that it shows what a "brainwashing machine" is, but rather that the video was made with the intent of making it look like that. In other words, it's deliberately creating that perception, or trying to.
I say "trying to" because it both succeeds and fails. There are three kinds of clips in that film:
1. Clips that succeed in your goal of portraying Public Education a certain way. One example is the school bus scene near the beginning.
2. Clips that can be interpreted different ways based on experience and POV. For example, you show elementary children "being brainwashed." I see a group of children actively engaged in learning. Really.
3. Clips that fail to communicate your POV because the kids don't look as you describe them. Closer to the end, you show kids leaving high school. They look happy, they have a bounce in their steps. They shake hands with a guy in a suit...not sure who that is supposed to be. Unless you are going for "I have to get the hell outta here ight now, yeeehaw," I don't see them as supporting your point of view.
As an aside, elementary classrooms where I teacher don't look like those. They are bright and colorful and generally encourage creativity as much as possible. There are problems at the elementary to be sure, such as an over emphasis on assessment, but the point is the appearance here. I'm not just talking about physical objects (black boards don't exist for example, we have white boards...which makes a bif difference...or so I've found). I'm also talking about the appearance of the kids. Many classrooms have kids actively doing whatever activity. I know my own classroom probably looks like a circus. If you saw what happens in my school, I think you'd have a very different point of view. And my school's not alone...it's just a good, modern school.
Kids who aren't tought differently, either at home or by truly great teachers (there are many), tend to come out of the public school system ready to go sit in a cubicle 9-5, 5 days a week, collect a meager paycheck and buy things on credit. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's what I see.
They learn to spend 8 hours a day in a "school" to get about 2+1/2 hours worth of education. And then they are expected to do "homework" every night for yet another hour. Where do the public school kids ever get a chance to socialize ???
I am sorry to hear that you were homeschooled your whole life. I'm not a big fan of that as I think much of what is valuable in school is mixing with chums.
I hear that a lot... it's not a valid argument against homeschooling. My kids actually socialize more than their "peers" that go to the public schools. They do various extra-curricular activities throughout the neighborhood and are constantly in contact with friends their age. Both "school" kids as well as other homeschooled kids. BUT... They also have contact with kids older and younger than them by several years (not just passing in a hallway, but actual interaction.) They are also able to interact in an intelligent way with the many adults they are exposed to on a daily basis. (Hopefully they'll retain this talent as they enter their teenage years.
How about field trips?... go to a museum on Friday with a bus full of kids where there are another 20 busses full of kids already there?... Or go to that museum on a tuesday morning with the family, when no one else is there and they get a full personalized tour from a docent who doesn't have anyone else to deal with that day? Or call ahead a month before you visit the state capitol on a Wednesday afternoon and actually get to meet your senator or congressman in a situation where they'll take 10 minutes to actually TALK to the 4 kids visiting them??
Homeschooling's not for everyone ... many parents were indoctrinated themselves to such a degree that they don't think it's a viable solution. But, having used both systems, I can say with certainty that homeschooling is a MUCH better way to educate children than today's public school system.
Besides, by being homeschooled, my kids get to do all their computer based work on a Mac!!
As for the video, while it was just a edit of stock footage, he certainly put it together much better than I could have done. (At least, I couldn't have done it that well without a lot of practice and self-education first.) All the way through it I kept thinking "proles"... was quite pleased to see the Orwell reference at the end!
While his post comes off as being a bit condescending (sounds as if it was written by someone without much "life experience"), I tend to agree with a lot of it. I think "indoctrinated" is a better term for it than "brainwashed" though. (Check your dictionary, they're different.)
Kids who aren't tought differently, either at home or by truly great teachers (there are many), tend to come out of the public school system ready to go sit in a cubicle 9-5, 5 days a week, collect a meager paycheck and buy things on credit. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's what I see.
They learn to spend 8 hours a day in a "school" to get about 2+1/2 hours worth of education. And then they are expected to do "homework" every night for yet another hour. Where do the public school kids ever get a chance to socialize ???
I hear that a lot... it's not a valid argument against homeschooling. My kids actually socialize more than their "peers" that go to the public schools. They do various extra-curricular activities throughout the neighborhood and are constantly in contact with friends their age. Both "school" kids as well as other homeschooled kids. BUT... They also have contact with kids older and younger than them by several years (not just passing in a hallway, but actual interaction.) They are also able to interact in an intelligent way with the many adults they are exposed to on a daily basis. (Hopefully they'll retain this talent as they enter their teenage years.
How about field trips?... go to a museum on Friday with a bus full of kids where there are another 20 busses full of kids already there?... Or go to that museum on a tuesday morning with the family, when no one else is there and they get a full personalized tour from a docent who doesn't have anyone else to deal with that day? Or call ahead a month before you visit the state capitol on a Wednesday afternoon and actually get to meet your senator or congressman in a situation where they'll take 10 minutes to actually TALK to the 4 kids visiting them??
Homeschooling's not for everyone ... many parents were indoctrinated themselves to such a degree that they don't think it's a viable solution. But, having used both systems, I can say with certainty that homeschooling is a MUCH better way to educate children than today's public school system.
Besides, by being homeschooled, my kids get to do all their computer based work on a Mac!!
As for the video, while it was just a edit of stock footage, he certainly put it together much better than I could have done. (At least, I couldn't have done it that well without a lot of practice and self-education first.) All the way through it I kept thinking "proles"... was quite pleased to see the Orwell reference at the end!
Thank you for the support behind my point of view, and thank you for the compliments on my video. I'm sorry for coming across condescending. I'm working on that.
Here is a link to a video of me conducting my second symphony at the New England Music Camp. I was limited to one player per instrument, and we didn't have much time to rehearse, but the music is there. And keep in mind this was over two years ago.. my conducting has improved since then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rGEF9kMB4g
So you think you know me based on online forums?
Wow... just.. wow.
I know you based on the plenty of assertions you've made. If thy weren't supposed to represent who you are, you were either wasting your (and everyone else's time) making them, or you deliberately tried to come off as a fool, which only makes me think less of you.
I made a music video about Public School, using the track "Auschwitz-Birkenau" from the Schindler's List Soundtrack, as the music.
I use this music because I think that School is one of the most evil creations ever. It ruins children, and the damage is permanent. They come out of high school completely brainwashed, having negative views on life, and a very cynical attitude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHJ59PGLdvQ
I at least endorse you: not so much the opinion in entirety, but at least the fact that you said what you wanted to say. You'll gain wisdom in time, and in all likelihood will find your opinions changing, but don't ever succumb to the blandness of what you are told must be so.
SDW2001, I have to thank you. You seem like an extremely intelligent, experienced person, and I will take seriously many of the things you've told me.
Excuse me?
I didn't say I would bow down to him like he's a God and worship every word. What I meant was he made some valid points that I could keep in mind. Overall, nothing about my opinions or my state of mind has changed.
Excuse me?
I didn't say I would bow down to him like he's a God and worship every word. What I meant was he made some valid points that I could keep in mind. Overall, nothing about my opinions or my state of mind has changed.
dont worry it wasn't directed at you!. There is afterall a first time for everything.
I hear that a lot... it's not a valid argument against homeschooling.
You agree with the tirade against public schools and for homeschooling because you are a homeschooling parent yourself. Oh...
My kids actually socialize more than their "peers" that go to the public schools.
You don't know that since you have no "control group" i.e. a comparison of your kids in public school vs. your kids in homeschool in order to evaluate the difference.
They do various extra-curricular activities throughout the neighborhood and are constantly in contact with friends their age. Both "school" kids as well as other homeschooled kids. BUT... They also have contact with kids older and younger than them by several years (not just passing in a hallway, but actual interaction.) They are also able to interact in an intelligent way with the many adults they are exposed to on a daily basis. (Hopefully they'll retain this talent as they enter their teenage years.
How about field trips?... go to a museum on Friday with a bus full of kids where there are another 20 busses full of kids already there?... Or go to that museum on a tuesday morning with the family, when no one else is there and they get a full personalized tour from a docent who doesn't have anyone else to deal with that day? Or call ahead a month before you visit the state capitol on a Wednesday afternoon and actually get to meet your senator or congressman in a situation where they'll take 10 minutes to actually TALK to the 4 kids visiting them??
Sounds like one big family vacation! Nice, but if you watch those "Family Vacation" movies, there's a reason why the father says stuff like you are saying right now, and the kids are grimacing in the back of the car.
Homeschooling's not for everyone ... many parents were indoctrinated themselves to such a degree that they don't think it's a viable solution.
"Indoctrinated" is a word that you use for a belief system with which you do not agree, but don't consider your own views equally "indoctrinated" or the possbility that going to a school run by professionals and full of peers is better than moping around the kitchen all day with mom and a math book.
Indoctrination is an interesting concept... but viewing all public school followed by college followed by careers as one big indoctrination is such tired, boring, laundry. My own view is that there are many paths, but you severely limit those paths for your kids by keeping them in your kitchen all day, funky field trips notwithstanding.
The tragedy is when someone who has talent and promise is unable to develop into their chosen field because they misinterpreted preparation as "indoctrination."
But, having used both systems, I can say with certainty that homeschooling is a MUCH better way to educate children than today's public school system.
That is so general as to be meaningless. You may be an excellent teacher to your kids, but on the other hand, they may be better served by a more critical thinker.
A bad school is a bad school, and it may be better to teach them at home than at a bad school. But there are great schools all over the place, and it's a shame when a kid doesn't have the encouragement to go to one because their parent is a zealot.
Besides, by being homeschooled, my kids get to do all their computer based work on a Mac!!
As a cat, If I were homeschooled, it is highly doubtful I would ever use a Mac let alone a computer. If I were homeschooled, chances are I wouldn't even be able to clean my own litterbox.
All the way through it I kept thinking "proles"... was quite pleased to see the Orwell reference at the end!
An obvious reference, following an obvious diatribe. There's nothing original, startling, or rebellious about any of this. It's hackneyed. It's boring. And that, for anyone who wants to be a musician, is the cardinal sin.
Here is a link to a video of me conducting my second symphony at the New England Music Camp. I was limited to one player per instrument, and we didn't have much time to rehearse, but the music is there. And keep in mind this was over two years ago.. my conducting has improved since then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rGEF9kMB4g
Not bad.
The arrangement is its best feature, your knowledge of the instruments reveals a good ear.
As a musician, there's a number of things I would say, but i don't want to criticize you here, only encourage you. If you want to succeed in music beyond a music camp that has a reputation for being fun but soft, you need real training...
Feel free to answer the questions above if you can.
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You don't know that since you have no "control group" i.e. a comparison of your kids in public school vs. your kids in homeschool in order to evaluate the difference.
Well, actually, I do. They did attend a public school for a couple years. It was one of the top rated school districts in Texas. (I don't have a clue where that would put it on a national level.) The kids were bored. They were neglected as student because they were "easy" for the teachers.
THEY asked to come back home...
As for the "great big family vacation"... we do those too, but the trips mentioned above were not vacations, they were "field trips" that focused on education. But the vacations wouldn't be possible in a public school, because TX requires a minimum number of days in class (regardless of how quickly they ace the standardized tests.) Going on vacation for 3-4 weeks at a time kinda destroys their attendance record.
Not being cats, the kids actually like going on road-trips.
Well, actually, I do. They did attend a public school for a couple years. It was one of the top rated school districts in Texas. (I don't have a clue where that would put it on a national level.) The kids were bored. They were neglected as student because they were "easy" for the teachers.
THEY asked to come back home...
As for the "great big family vacation"... we do those too, but the trips mentioned above were not vacations, they were "field trips" that focused on education. But the vacations wouldn't be possible in a public school, because TX requires a minimum number of days in class (regardless of how quickly they ace the standardized tests.) Going on vacation for 3-4 weeks at a time kinda destroys their attendance record.
Not being cats, the kids actually like going on road-trips.
KingOfSomewhereHot, I wouldn't bother responding to Duddits if I were you. From the way he talks about homeschooling, it's obvious that he won't understand anything that you'd say about what homeschooling is.
When he said "going to a school run by professionals and full of peers is better than moping around the kitchen all day with mom and a math book" that's the point at which I realized that any words directed at this man are a waste of energy. He's lost in the system and the brainwash.
Teenage angst, angst angst...
Fuck the system, the system, the system.
Become the system.
Mock teenagers.
I made a music video that expresses my feelings toward your mom.
Let me see it.
KingOfSomewhereHot, I wouldn't bother responding to Duddits if I were you. From the way he talks about homeschooling, it's obvious that he won't understand anything that you'd say about what homeschooling is.
Who cares about homeschooling. Answer the music questions if you want to have a real conversation and not just be dismissive and smug.
Who cares about homeschooling...
People who actually want their children to get an education.
Let me see it.
You would want to see it.