wow, you keep repeating that everyone should go back and read YOUR stuff, but *I* have posted about the star trek films being ready to come out AGES ago!
Funny since this was just announced. What's with you Walter?
I'm bored with yours also Walter. Yours makes me wonder if you're for real or just trolling around. Your brilliant comebacks basically say nothing.
All you can do is insult you can't address my concerns and do you know why? Because you have no real comeback. You have nothing to support your argument or refute mine.
I don't know what to make of your recent response. What's your point Walter? And which attitude are tired of? The one where I present facts that you can't counter or the one where I just ask simple questions?
Once again Walter I've never said that downloading will never be the main way people purchase movies in the future. I'm just saying for it to replace physical media will take at least 10 years. I don't think that's an unreasonable assement of the situation.
what am I fed up with?
even when a solution is presented to you, you ignore it, or find a way to "MAKE" it still not meet your idea of what you "think" you need.
you are basically looking for any way possible to stand and shout "la la la, I'm not listening" THEN you come out with the, "but I'm not saying it won't happen" because you know such a statement (it NEVER WILL HAPPEN) would sound REALLY ridiculous, yet when numerous people have pointed out to you what is going on in the real world, you ignore it.
I have a BD/DVD player, AppleTV a few macs and a few iPods.. oh yeah and I still have a VCR! but then I guess if you think that makes me a troll, it must be true, at least in your small view of the world.
hold on though, all you seem interested in is your mates DVD player, so, in terms of format support, does that make YOU a troll? who knows.
heres an idea for debate purposes, take the opposite stance and argue THAT point, in other words, why don't YOU answer the questions you pose, how do you solve those issues, research some solutions YOURSELF and .. maybe.. you will see some of what the rest of us see, that solutions DO exist.
even when a solution is presented to you, you ignore it, or find a way to "MAKE" it still not meet your idea of what you "think" you need.
you are basically looking for any way possible to stand and shout "la la la, I'm not listening" THEN you come out with the, "but I'm not saying it won't happen" because you know such a statement (it NEVER WILL HAPPEN) would sound REALLY ridiculous, yet when numerous people have pointed out to you what is going on in the real world, you ignore it.
I have a BD/DVD player, AppleTV a few macs and a few iPods.. oh yeah and I still have a VCR! but then I guess if you think that makes me a troll, it must be true, at least in your small view of the world.
hold on though, all you seem interested in is your mates DVD player, so, in terms of format support, does that make YOU a troll? who knows.
heres an idea for debate purposes, take the opposite stance and argue THAT point, in other words, why don't YOU answer the questions you pose, how do you solve those issues, research some solutions YOURSELF and .. maybe.. you will see some of what the rest of us see, that solutions DO exist.
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even when a solution is presented to you
What solution? I've stated why this isn't a complete solution but I guess you only read what you post.
I still have 2 VCRs and a Laser Disc player so no I don't think that makes you a troll.
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why don't YOU answer the questions you pose
I already have. I just think it'll take awhile for the movie companies to soften up enough to make downloading video purchases a viable alternative to physical media.
I give it about 10 years. Until then people will continue to download to their computers or their on demand cable box but physical media will remain the main way people purchase video and won't go the way of the dinosaur. That won't happen until those issues are solved. And we are talking about the the way the general public views this so it can " catch on " with them. Not just me. Like I've said ( until I'm blue in the face ) I'm not saying never. Just not today or even tommorrow. But someday in the next 10 years.
Now do you have a problem with that?
That's all I'm saying Walter. I get the feeling that you don't understand what I'm saying and that our viewpoints might not be as much at odds as you seem to think. So why don't you make a statement that will clarify your position on all of this. And then I'll tell you what I think. Ok?
iPods took a few years to catch on but once they did... BAM!
I think we're just a couple years away from BAM!
The price is already low enough ($99 for the cheapest solution).
The quality is apparently already "good enough" for the masses. It pains me to watch low-bit-rate pseudo-HD in the same way that it pains me to listen to 128kbps aac. But apparently the masses don't mind. Every few months the bar is raised. Streaming quality really has taken off. There is amazing competition between pretty much everyone in the entertainment and computing industries. All the major players are spending big bucks on this and it shows.
Where I think streaming falls short is usability and selection. The streaming boxes don't quite pass the grandma test yet and the streaming library isn't all inclusive yet. But I see both of these issues as resolvable within just a couple of years.
If you haven't seen HD netflix streaming via a set-top box, you haven't seen the future yet. Anyone that sees it immediately wants it. Not netflix in particular, but instant access to any movie or TV show ever made... that's awfully hard to beat. People see one of these boxes and immediately they start dreaming of exactly that scenario. Not just computer geeks.Everyone conjures up that scenario in their mind, instant access to everything.
My only question is... how long before we reach the tipping point like we did with the iPod? How long before everyone is buzzing about streaming boxes hooked up to their TV? Joe six-packs everywhere will be having conversations like "I just got a netflix box last night and its awesome. I plugged it in and could watch anything I wanted right away. You should get one, they're cheap."
iPods took a few years to catch on but once they did... BAM!
I think we're just a couple years away from BAM!
The price is already low enough ($99 for the cheapest solution).
The quality is apparently already "good enough" for the masses. It pains me to watch low-bit-rate pseudo-HD in the same way that it pains me to listen to 128kbps aac. But apparently the masses don't mind. Every few months the bar is raised. Streaming quality really has taken off. There is amazing competition between pretty much everyone in the entertainment and computing industries. All the major players are spending big bucks on this and it shows.
Where I think streaming falls short is usability and selection. The streaming boxes don't quite pass the grandma test yet and the streaming library isn't all inclusive yet. But I see both of these issues as resolvable within just a couple of years.
If you haven't seen HD netflix streaming via a set-top box, you haven't seen the future yet. Anyone that sees it immediately wants it. Not netflix in particular, but instant access to any movie or TV show ever made... that's awfully hard to beat. People see one of these boxes and immediately they start dreaming of exactly that scenario. Not just computer geeks.Everyone conjures up that scenario in their mind, instant access to everything.
My only question is... how long before we reach the tipping point like we did with the iPod? How long before everyone is buzzing about streaming boxes hooked up to their TV? Joe six-packs everywhere will be having conversations like "I just got a netflix box last night and its awesome. I plugged it in and could watch anything I wanted right away. You should get one, they're cheap."
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iPods took a few years to catch on but once they did... BAM!
I think we're just a couple years away from BAM!
Well Comcast still caps downloads.
The movie companies are still as stubborn as ever.
And people still like to buy DVDs and BDs.
This :
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If you haven't seen HD netflix streaming via a set-top box, you haven't seen the future yet. Anyone that sees it immediately wants it. Not netflix in particular, but instant access to any movie or TV show ever made... that's awfully hard to beat.
It's still renting not purchasing. It's important to understand the difference. I mean each time you call this selection up you pay for it again and again right? And what percentage of people are doing this now? How does that compare with the number of people that still buy discs?
It's not so much technology as it is attitude. I really, seriously, doubt we're two years away from the the end of physical media.
It's already been a year since I started arguing this point in another thread on this forum.
I've got plenty of HD films on my hard drive with sizes up to 8gig a movie. Now if I want to get that file off my Mac and onto a PC, console or whatever how do I do it? DVD isn't big enough, there isn't a cross-platform format that supports files above 4gig so a USB stick's out the question. Simplest way is a Blu-ray burner.
Apple are members of the Blu-ray association and have always promoted HD video editing, yet are still lumbered with disc-media limited to 7gig. Absurd.
So by waiting, Apple now gets to pay 40% less royalties to Sony and friends. (Although it's not quite 40% savings to Apple, since Quicktime royalties would likely be included, right?)
At the new lower prices it's $14. per recording system, so if Apple had shipped BR systems in the last two years it's likely they would have paid tens, possibly hundreds of millions of royalties by now.
No wonder Jobs said it was a 'bag of hurt'. He meant it would hit Apple in the pocketbook.
I've got plenty of HD films on my hard drive with sizes up to 8gig a movie. Now if I want to get that file off my Mac and onto a PC, console or whatever how do I do it? DVD isn't big enough, there isn't a cross-platform format that supports files above 4gig so a USB stick's out the question. Simplest way is a Blu-ray burner.
Apple are members of the Blu-ray association and have always promoted HD video editing, yet are still lumbered with disc-media limited to 7gig. Absurd.
Why burn it? Just stick it on your 320-500 gig 2.5in USB2 or Firewire Drive to take it somewhere. USB2 only is less than $140 at OWC.
Who they hell would want to wait around for 8 gig to burn? Copy 10 movies over at once and be done with it.
Why burn it? Just stick it on your 320-500 gig 2.5in USB2 or Firewire Drive to take it somewhere.
This would still have the problem of not being able to be read over different platforms without re-formatting. Hard-drives are hardly a practical solution for distribution and portability either. If hard-drives were the answer we'd never even have bothered with DVD-R/RW.
Who wants to export their movies to a hard-drive to post to their family??? Blu-ray's already pretty established in the PC market and drives are pretty cheap now, as are discs. It's like waiting for Apple to get round to a DVD-burner all over again
Why are Apple in the Blu-ray Association if not to use the media?
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So by waiting, Apple now gets to pay 40% less royalties to Sony and friends.
At the new lower prices it's $14. per recording system, so if Apple had shipped BR systems in the last two years it's likely they would have paid tens, possibly hundreds of millions of royalties by now.
No wonder Jobs said it was a 'bag of hurt'. He meant it would hit Apple in the pocketbook.
This would still have the problem of not being able to be read over different platforms without re-formatting. Hard-drives are hardly a practical solution for distribution and portability either. If hard-drives were the answer we'd never even have bothered with DVD-R/RW.
Who wants to export their movies to a hard-drive to post to their family??? Blu-ray's already pretty established in the PC market and drives are pretty cheap now, as are discs. It's like waiting for Apple to get round to a DVD-burner all over again
Why are Apple in the Blu-ray Association if not to use the media?
Got to ask Apple that.
FAT32 can be read by all platforms. I've personally used it to transfer over dozens of gigs of movies though they were not in HD format (DVD ISO's)
USB 2.0 Cases with 2.5 SATA drives in them in capacities up to 500 gigs are powered by the USB port. You carry around a package that is 3.5"x5", weighs 11 oz. and would hold over 60 movies at the sizes you discussed. If 11 oz. is too heavy to carry then put down the t.v. remote before you strain yourself.
Why burn it? Just stick it on your 320-500 gig 2.5in USB2 or Firewire Drive to take it somewhere. USB2 only is less than $140 at OWC.
Who they hell would want to wait around for 8 gig to burn? Copy 10 movies over at once and be done with it.
How would you hook this to a big screen without a USB port ( plenty don't )?
Now you could cobble something together ( there are adatpter cables ) but most wouldn't bother. Hence the burning.
As a side note you can't legally ( I've heard there's a way but it's not legal ) burn video from iTunes.
And you'd need that kind of space and more for a lot of HD movies.
Apple's holding off because of iTunes I'm guessing. However with video iTunes is still a kind of rental model. Sure you can buy a HD movie and play it on your computer but when you move away from that you options become limited. So better hope you have a big monitor. Some day I'm sure the MPAA will cave in and transfering HD video from iTunes will be simple and legal. Right now Apple tends to side step this issue by not letting you burn.
I've got plenty of HD films on my hard drive with sizes up to 8gig a movie. Now if I want to get that file off my Mac and onto a PC, console or whatever how do I do it? DVD isn't big enough
DL DVD is big enough. Every DVD burning Mac for the last few years has supported DL discs. I don't know about general retail prices, but the inkjet printable ones I buy are less than $2 a pop.
But it has a 4gig file limit and loads of my movie files are over 8, so I can't even burn them to DL DVD.
I have to split them into different segments and port them over piece by piece. If I save on any other format that supports over 4gig then other devices wont read it.
With 1TB hdd's prety standard these days and files often exceeding 8gig, DL DVD just isn't big enough anymore. By a long way.
But it has a 4gig file limit and loads of my movie files are over 8, so I can't even burn them to DL DVD.
I have to split them into different segments and port them over piece by piece. If I save on any other format that supports over 4gig then other devices wont read it.
With 1TB hdd's prety standard these days and files often exceeding 8gig, DL DVD just isn't big enough anymore. By a long way.
Even if it were, I just couldn't imagine the wait for the burn of the media. There are also solutions that allow Mac to read and write to NTFS drive and have the reverse as well.
The drives as you note are cheap and huge, especially relative to the cost of the media. Plus I just cannot stand the inconvenience of media. It is like noting that a CD can easily hold a high quality album recording but who in this day and age would want to haul around cd's?
When a small, self-powered drive can hold 60-70 HD movies, who wants to deal with 60-70 BlueRay discs and the care and carrying of them. It was mentioned above that some consumer devices might not have USB but newer PVR's have them and providers like Verizon even allow you to add to your PVR via USB.(or so I've heard, I don't pay for TV right now)
Even if it were, I just couldn't imagine the wait for the burn of the media. There are also solutions that allow Mac to read and write to NTFS drive and have the reverse as well.
The drives as you note are cheap and huge, especially relative to the cost of the media. Plus I just cannot stand the inconvenience of media. It is like noting that a CD can easily hold a high quality album recording but who in this day and age would want to haul around cd's?
When a small, self-powered drive can hold 60-70 HD movies, who wants to deal with 60-70 BlueRay discs and the care and carrying of them. It was mentioned above that some consumer devices might not have USB but newer PVR's have them and providers like Verizon even allow you to add to your PVR via USB.(or so I've heard, I don't pay for TV right now)
One of the things he mentioned was portability. Being able to play the movie on other devices in other locations.
Ok so you'd put it on said drive. Where would you take this to be of any use other than another computer? How about a Big screen TV? As I said you could use some of the cables available through apple for say an iPod but the from what I'm reading the resolution isn't that great.
Now you could have the video from some other source and get more resolution but......
And what do the movie studios have to say about legallity of you doing this?
Now I realize people do this all the time right now. However in this discussion we're talking about the merits of downloadable media vs physical media and will downloads eventually take the place of physical media? To do this wide scale it has to be accepted as legal. To wipe out physical media and be the method of choice this has to be an issue that's solved.
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When a small, self-powered drive can hold 60-70 HD movies, who wants to deal with 60-70 BlueRay discs and the care and carrying of them.
I have more regular DVDs than that right now. But it's perfectly legal for me to carry them anywhere and share them with my friends or family just as long as I don't try to have a public performance like I was opening a theater or charging money. I usually don't move around 60 to 70 of them at a time though. And like I've said if you're just loaning it to someone is every TV ready to accept a USB connection? Right now I think physical media is easier.
I have files of well over 7gig just stuck on my HDD, with the only option for back-up being high-capacity USB sticks which aren't the most stable of mediums.
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I've got plenty of HD films on my hard drive with sizes up to 8gig a movie.
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loads of my movie files are over 8, so I can't even burn them to DL DVD.
Let us know when you make up your mind because right now it looks like you're just making up numbers to support your position.
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wow, you keep repeating that everyone should go back and read YOUR stuff, but *I* have posted about the star trek films being ready to come out AGES ago!
Funny since this was just announced.
How condecending of you Walter.
I'm bored with yours also Walter. Yours makes me wonder if you're for real or just trolling around. Your brilliant comebacks basically say nothing.
All you can do is insult you can't address my concerns and do you know why? Because you have no real comeback. You have nothing to support your argument or refute mine.
I don't know what to make of your recent response. What's your point Walter? And which attitude are tired of? The one where I present facts that you can't counter or the one where I just ask simple questions?
Once again Walter I've never said that downloading will never be the main way people purchase movies in the future. I'm just saying for it to replace physical media will take at least 10 years. I don't think that's an unreasonable assement of the situation.
what am I fed up with?
even when a solution is presented to you, you ignore it, or find a way to "MAKE" it still not meet your idea of what you "think" you need.
you are basically looking for any way possible to stand and shout "la la la, I'm not listening" THEN you come out with the, "but I'm not saying it won't happen" because you know such a statement (it NEVER WILL HAPPEN) would sound REALLY ridiculous, yet when numerous people have pointed out to you what is going on in the real world, you ignore it.
I have a BD/DVD player, AppleTV a few macs and a few iPods.. oh yeah and I still have a VCR!
hold on though, all you seem interested in is your mates DVD player, so, in terms of format support, does that make YOU a troll? who knows.
heres an idea for debate purposes, take the opposite stance and argue THAT point, in other words, why don't YOU answer the questions you pose, how do you solve those issues, research some solutions YOURSELF and .. maybe.. you will see some of what the rest of us see, that solutions DO exist.
Funny since this was just announced.
funny, since I knew about it weeks ago.
I guess your sources aren't all they are cracked up to be.. which fits with how out of touch you seem to be
PROOF
funny, since I knew about it weeks ago.
I guess your sources aren't all they are cracked up to be.. which fits with how out of touch you seem to be
PROOF
Well good for you! I knew about this on 11/10 of last year when The Digital Bits posted it in the rumor mill.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html
But the official announcement ( with all the details ) was just the other day.
Who out of touch?
what am I fed up with?
even when a solution is presented to you, you ignore it, or find a way to "MAKE" it still not meet your idea of what you "think" you need.
you are basically looking for any way possible to stand and shout "la la la, I'm not listening" THEN you come out with the, "but I'm not saying it won't happen" because you know such a statement (it NEVER WILL HAPPEN) would sound REALLY ridiculous, yet when numerous people have pointed out to you what is going on in the real world, you ignore it.
I have a BD/DVD player, AppleTV a few macs and a few iPods.. oh yeah and I still have a VCR!
hold on though, all you seem interested in is your mates DVD player, so, in terms of format support, does that make YOU a troll? who knows.
heres an idea for debate purposes, take the opposite stance and argue THAT point, in other words, why don't YOU answer the questions you pose, how do you solve those issues, research some solutions YOURSELF and .. maybe.. you will see some of what the rest of us see, that solutions DO exist.
even when a solution is presented to you
What solution? I've stated why this isn't a complete solution but I guess you only read what you post.
I still have 2 VCRs and a Laser Disc player so no I don't think that makes you a troll.
why don't YOU answer the questions you pose
I already have. I just think it'll take awhile for the movie companies to soften up enough to make downloading video purchases a viable alternative to physical media.
I give it about 10 years. Until then people will continue to download to their computers or their on demand cable box but physical media will remain the main way people purchase video and won't go the way of the dinosaur. That won't happen until those issues are solved. And we are talking about the the way the general public views this so it can " catch on " with them. Not just me. Like I've said ( until I'm blue in the face ) I'm not saying never. Just not today or even tommorrow. But someday in the next 10 years.
Now do you have a problem with that?
That's all I'm saying Walter. I get the feeling that you don't understand what I'm saying and that our viewpoints might not be as much at odds as you seem to think. So why don't you make a statement that will clarify your position on all of this. And then I'll tell you what I think. Ok?
iPods took a few years to catch on but once they did... BAM!
I think we're just a couple years away from BAM!
The price is already low enough ($99 for the cheapest solution).
The quality is apparently already "good enough" for the masses. It pains me to watch low-bit-rate pseudo-HD in the same way that it pains me to listen to 128kbps aac. But apparently the masses don't mind. Every few months the bar is raised. Streaming quality really has taken off. There is amazing competition between pretty much everyone in the entertainment and computing industries. All the major players are spending big bucks on this and it shows.
Where I think streaming falls short is usability and selection. The streaming boxes don't quite pass the grandma test yet and the streaming library isn't all inclusive yet. But I see both of these issues as resolvable within just a couple of years.
If you haven't seen HD netflix streaming via a set-top box, you haven't seen the future yet. Anyone that sees it immediately wants it. Not netflix in particular, but instant access to any movie or TV show ever made... that's awfully hard to beat. People see one of these boxes and immediately they start dreaming of exactly that scenario. Not just computer geeks.Everyone conjures up that scenario in their mind, instant access to everything.
My only question is... how long before we reach the tipping point like we did with the iPod? How long before everyone is buzzing about streaming boxes hooked up to their TV? Joe six-packs everywhere will be having conversations like "I just got a netflix box last night and its awesome. I plugged it in and could watch anything I wanted right away. You should get one, they're cheap."
10 years seems a bit far off.
iPods took a few years to catch on but once they did... BAM!
I think we're just a couple years away from BAM!
The price is already low enough ($99 for the cheapest solution).
The quality is apparently already "good enough" for the masses. It pains me to watch low-bit-rate pseudo-HD in the same way that it pains me to listen to 128kbps aac. But apparently the masses don't mind. Every few months the bar is raised. Streaming quality really has taken off. There is amazing competition between pretty much everyone in the entertainment and computing industries. All the major players are spending big bucks on this and it shows.
Where I think streaming falls short is usability and selection. The streaming boxes don't quite pass the grandma test yet and the streaming library isn't all inclusive yet. But I see both of these issues as resolvable within just a couple of years.
If you haven't seen HD netflix streaming via a set-top box, you haven't seen the future yet. Anyone that sees it immediately wants it. Not netflix in particular, but instant access to any movie or TV show ever made... that's awfully hard to beat. People see one of these boxes and immediately they start dreaming of exactly that scenario. Not just computer geeks.Everyone conjures up that scenario in their mind, instant access to everything.
My only question is... how long before we reach the tipping point like we did with the iPod? How long before everyone is buzzing about streaming boxes hooked up to their TV? Joe six-packs everywhere will be having conversations like "I just got a netflix box last night and its awesome. I plugged it in and could watch anything I wanted right away. You should get one, they're cheap."
iPods took a few years to catch on but once they did... BAM!
I think we're just a couple years away from BAM!
Well Comcast still caps downloads.
The movie companies are still as stubborn as ever.
And people still like to buy DVDs and BDs.
This :
If you haven't seen HD netflix streaming via a set-top box, you haven't seen the future yet. Anyone that sees it immediately wants it. Not netflix in particular, but instant access to any movie or TV show ever made... that's awfully hard to beat.
It's still renting not purchasing. It's important to understand the difference. I mean each time you call this selection up you pay for it again and again right? And what percentage of people are doing this now? How does that compare with the number of people that still buy discs?
It's not so much technology as it is attitude. I really, seriously, doubt we're two years away from the the end of physical media.
It's already been a year since I started arguing this point in another thread on this forum.
So call it 9 years!
Apple are members of the Blu-ray association and have always promoted HD video editing, yet are still lumbered with disc-media limited to 7gig. Absurd.
At the new lower prices it's $14. per recording system, so if Apple had shipped BR systems in the last two years it's likely they would have paid tens, possibly hundreds of millions of royalties by now.
No wonder Jobs said it was a 'bag of hurt'. He meant it would hit Apple in the pocketbook.
I've got plenty of HD films on my hard drive with sizes up to 8gig a movie. Now if I want to get that file off my Mac and onto a PC, console or whatever how do I do it? DVD isn't big enough, there isn't a cross-platform format that supports files above 4gig so a USB stick's out the question. Simplest way is a Blu-ray burner.
Apple are members of the Blu-ray association and have always promoted HD video editing, yet are still lumbered with disc-media limited to 7gig. Absurd.
Why burn it? Just stick it on your 320-500 gig 2.5in USB2 or Firewire Drive to take it somewhere. USB2 only is less than $140 at OWC.
Who they hell would want to wait around for 8 gig to burn? Copy 10 movies over at once and be done with it.
Why burn it? Just stick it on your 320-500 gig 2.5in USB2 or Firewire Drive to take it somewhere.
This would still have the problem of not being able to be read over different platforms without re-formatting. Hard-drives are hardly a practical solution for distribution and portability either. If hard-drives were the answer we'd never even have bothered with DVD-R/RW.
Who wants to export their movies to a hard-drive to post to their family??? Blu-ray's already pretty established in the PC market and drives are pretty cheap now, as are discs. It's like waiting for Apple to get round to a DVD-burner all over again
Why are Apple in the Blu-ray Association if not to use the media?
So by waiting, Apple now gets to pay 40% less royalties to Sony and friends.
At the new lower prices it's $14. per recording system, so if Apple had shipped BR systems in the last two years it's likely they would have paid tens, possibly hundreds of millions of royalties by now.
No wonder Jobs said it was a 'bag of hurt'. He meant it would hit Apple in the pocketbook.
OK, at least that's a reasonable explanation
This would still have the problem of not being able to be read over different platforms without re-formatting. Hard-drives are hardly a practical solution for distribution and portability either. If hard-drives were the answer we'd never even have bothered with DVD-R/RW.
Who wants to export their movies to a hard-drive to post to their family??? Blu-ray's already pretty established in the PC market and drives are pretty cheap now, as are discs. It's like waiting for Apple to get round to a DVD-burner all over again
Why are Apple in the Blu-ray Association if not to use the media?
Got to ask Apple that.
FAT32 can be read by all platforms. I've personally used it to transfer over dozens of gigs of movies though they were not in HD format (DVD ISO's)
USB 2.0 Cases with 2.5 SATA drives in them in capacities up to 500 gigs are powered by the USB port. You carry around a package that is 3.5"x5", weighs 11 oz. and would hold over 60 movies at the sizes you discussed. If 11 oz. is too heavy to carry then put down the t.v. remote before you strain yourself.
Why burn it? Just stick it on your 320-500 gig 2.5in USB2 or Firewire Drive to take it somewhere. USB2 only is less than $140 at OWC.
Who they hell would want to wait around for 8 gig to burn? Copy 10 movies over at once and be done with it.
How would you hook this to a big screen without a USB port ( plenty don't )?
Now you could cobble something together ( there are adatpter cables ) but most wouldn't bother. Hence the burning.
As a side note you can't legally ( I've heard there's a way but it's not legal ) burn video from iTunes.
And you'd need that kind of space and more for a lot of HD movies.
Apple's holding off because of iTunes I'm guessing. However with video iTunes is still a kind of rental model. Sure you can buy a HD movie and play it on your computer but when you move away from that you options become limited. So better hope you have a big monitor. Some day I'm sure the MPAA will cave in and transfering HD video from iTunes will be simple and legal. Right now Apple tends to side step this issue by not letting you burn.
I've got plenty of HD films on my hard drive with sizes up to 8gig a movie. Now if I want to get that file off my Mac and onto a PC, console or whatever how do I do it? DVD isn't big enough
DL DVD is big enough. Every DVD burning Mac for the last few years has supported DL discs. I don't know about general retail prices, but the inkjet printable ones I buy are less than $2 a pop.
FAT32 can be read by all platforms.
But it has a 4gig file limit and loads of my movie files are over 8, so I can't even burn them to DL DVD.
I have to split them into different segments and port them over piece by piece. If I save on any other format that supports over 4gig then other devices wont read it.
With 1TB hdd's prety standard these days and files often exceeding 8gig, DL DVD just isn't big enough anymore. By a long way.
But it has a 4gig file limit and loads of my movie files are over 8, so I can't even burn them to DL DVD.
I have to split them into different segments and port them over piece by piece. If I save on any other format that supports over 4gig then other devices wont read it.
With 1TB hdd's prety standard these days and files often exceeding 8gig, DL DVD just isn't big enough anymore. By a long way.
Even if it were, I just couldn't imagine the wait for the burn of the media. There are also solutions that allow Mac to read and write to NTFS drive and have the reverse as well.
The drives as you note are cheap and huge, especially relative to the cost of the media. Plus I just cannot stand the inconvenience of media. It is like noting that a CD can easily hold a high quality album recording but who in this day and age would want to haul around cd's?
When a small, self-powered drive can hold 60-70 HD movies, who wants to deal with 60-70 BlueRay discs and the care and carrying of them. It was mentioned above that some consumer devices might not have USB but newer PVR's have them and providers like Verizon even allow you to add to your PVR via USB.(or so I've heard, I don't pay for TV right now)
Even if it were, I just couldn't imagine the wait for the burn of the media. There are also solutions that allow Mac to read and write to NTFS drive and have the reverse as well.
The drives as you note are cheap and huge, especially relative to the cost of the media. Plus I just cannot stand the inconvenience of media. It is like noting that a CD can easily hold a high quality album recording but who in this day and age would want to haul around cd's?
When a small, self-powered drive can hold 60-70 HD movies, who wants to deal with 60-70 BlueRay discs and the care and carrying of them. It was mentioned above that some consumer devices might not have USB but newer PVR's have them and providers like Verizon even allow you to add to your PVR via USB.(or so I've heard, I don't pay for TV right now)
One of the things he mentioned was portability. Being able to play the movie on other devices in other locations.
Ok so you'd put it on said drive. Where would you take this to be of any use other than another computer? How about a Big screen TV? As I said you could use some of the cables available through apple for say an iPod but the from what I'm reading the resolution isn't that great.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1454
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Now you could have the video from some other source and get more resolution but......
And what do the movie studios have to say about legallity of you doing this?
Now I realize people do this all the time right now. However in this discussion we're talking about the merits of downloadable media vs physical media and will downloads eventually take the place of physical media? To do this wide scale it has to be accepted as legal. To wipe out physical media and be the method of choice this has to be an issue that's solved.
When a small, self-powered drive can hold 60-70 HD movies, who wants to deal with 60-70 BlueRay discs and the care and carrying of them.
I have more regular DVDs than that right now. But it's perfectly legal for me to carry them anywhere and share them with my friends or family just as long as I don't try to have a public performance like I was opening a theater or charging money. I usually don't move around 60 to 70 of them at a time though.
I won't always be that way however.
I have files of well over 7gig just stuck on my HDD, with the only option for back-up being high-capacity USB sticks which aren't the most stable of mediums.
I've got plenty of HD films on my hard drive with sizes up to 8gig a movie.
loads of my movie files are over 8, so I can't even burn them to DL DVD.
Let us know when you make up your mind because right now it looks like you're just making up numbers to support your position.
Let us know when you make up your mind because right now it looks like you're just making up numbers to support your position.
Well to be fair some videos or movies are longer than others.