Microsoft makes an interesting statement in their ads, but I don't think they work, really. As I have been saying, people see these ads and most think: "oh yeah, I heard how cool those Apple's are, must check out the Apple Store." People know, in the end, usually you get what you pay for. These ads aren't clever enough.
The current Microsoft ads remind me of the style of those, what were they "Sing Tunes Program", designed for a very simple audience level, about 3 years old.
I tell my PC friends the same thing about cheap components and price of software and resolution, but they are happy with their cheap shit.
It's like trying to get someone to go into a wine shop and select a $50 bottle of wine, when they are just as happy with a $10 bottle from the grocery store. It's just not worth the effort.
Microsoft makes an interesting statement in their ads, but I don't think they work, really. As I have been saying, people see these ads and most think: "oh yeah, I heard how cool those Apple's are, must check out the Apple Store." People know, in the end, usually you get what you pay for. These ads aren't clever enough.
The guy stating that Mac is really cool doesn't make sense to me to sell more HPs. I have no idea why that was included. The rest of the ads seems to work in the way they are meant to, except that I think the audience that seem to be targeting would have already decided on the budget computer, thus making it pointless. They need to convince people that the budget machine is worth the money, but i have no idea how they could do that.
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Originally Posted by joe in miami
I tell my PC friends the same thing about cheap components and price of software and resolution, but they are happy with their cheap shit.
Let them have their cheap machines. Macs aren't for everyone. And if they did get one and liked it they would be stuck with Macs forever, like when you get an HDTV and HD cable and can't stand to watch SD anymore.
Microsoft makes an interesting statement in their ads, but I don't think they work, really. As I have been saying, people see these ads and most think: "oh yeah, I heard how cool those Apple's are, must check out the Apple Store." People know, in the end, usually you get what you pay for. These ads aren't clever enough.
and a far lower quality display with much lower resolution, 1440x900 compared to the MacBook Pro's 1920x1440.
This made me second-guess myself but it's actually a (still formidable) 1920x1200 on the 17in MacBook Pro \
I like this response from Apple, it's a professional and factual response - unlike alot of Microsoft's Ballmer-influenced, childish, misleading remarks and ad campaigns.... bravo Apple.
I tell my PC friends the same thing about cheap components and price of software and resolution, but they are happy with their cheap shit.
It's like trying to get someone to go into a wine shop and select a $50 bottle of wine, when they are just as happy with a $10 bottle from the grocery store. It's just not worth the effort.
You just made their argument for them...
Why do I need to cough up for expensive hardware when I can spend less and still be happy? I also have AMD (which can be used to get great performance for the money) as a cheaper alternative.
As far as the article... as a Windows user (primarily) well played sir...not much can be said to counter that IMHO.
1) Most PC users worth their salt know that there are plenty of freeware AV programs out there. I personally use AVG Free, but there's also Antivir, Avast, and countless other programs that you DON'T have to pay for and work just fine.
Why pay $150 over three years unless you're an idiot or just made out of money
2) As for the other software titles, you can find freeware versions of just about any kind of program that you need to use on a PC (I use mostly freeware stuff on my Lenovo ThinkPad).
That being said, I think it was a classy response from Apple. Microsoft needed to do something because of Apple's constant Microsoft bashing over the years.
Microsoft could have done A LOT better with its current Laptop Hunter ads, but they seem to have made at least a bit of an impression and the fact that an Apple rep took the time to even talk about them says a lot.
Microsoft had better not f**k up with Windows 7 or Apple is gonna be all over them like flies on s**t.
1) Most PC users worth their salt know that there are plenty of freeware AV programs out there. I personally use AVG Free, but there's also Antivir, Avast, and countless other programs that you DON'T have to pay for and work just fine.
Why pay $150 over three years unless you're an idiot or just made out of money
2) As for the other software titles, you can find freeware versions of just about any kind of program that you need to use on a PC (I use mostly freeware stuff on my Lenovo ThinkPad).
I notice how often PC software is compared to Mac software in a similar fashion to how the hardware is compared. Provided they tick the same feature boxes - they're the same. Only the Mac software is fewer in number and more expensive!
Less tangible factors (but things that day-to-day make a world of difference) such ease of use, user enjoyment and experience, quality, fit and finish etc. never seem to factor.
Who cares about how many titles there are, in any particular area you will typically only use one and in many cases now the Mac has the best options.
Microsoft really sucks when it comes to PR and advertisement. Plenty of examples that I think everyone already knows about. If I was HP, I'd be really pissed at Microsoft for dragging me into it's PR campaign because their campaign made HP look bad! How? Well, take a look at all the counter arguments. Not only Microsoft have embarrassed itself, it also have embarrassed HP.
SHISH Microsoft, get yourself a new campaigner already!
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Rather than running ads that seem clever at first but really aren't, the Windows guys ought to take the hint and just build better computers.
...and Microsoft needs to build a better, more stable OS.
Edit: Yes - Classy response.
It's like trying to get someone to go into a wine shop and select a $50 bottle of wine, when they are just as happy with a $10 bottle from the grocery store. It's just not worth the effort.
Microsoft makes an interesting statement in their ads, but I don't think they work, really. As I have been saying, people see these ads and most think: "oh yeah, I heard how cool those Apple's are, must check out the Apple Store." People know, in the end, usually you get what you pay for. These ads aren't clever enough.
The guy stating that Mac is really cool doesn't make sense to me to sell more HPs. I have no idea why that was included. The rest of the ads seems to work in the way they are meant to, except that I think the audience that seem to be targeting would have already decided on the budget computer, thus making it pointless. They need to convince people that the budget machine is worth the money, but i have no idea how they could do that.
I tell my PC friends the same thing about cheap components and price of software and resolution, but they are happy with their cheap shit.
Let them have their cheap machines. Macs aren't for everyone. And if they did get one and liked it they would be stuck with Macs forever, like when you get an HDTV and HD cable and can't stand to watch SD anymore.
Microsoft makes an interesting statement in their ads, but I don't think they work, really. As I have been saying, people see these ads and most think: "oh yeah, I heard how cool those Apple's are, must check out the Apple Store." People know, in the end, usually you get what you pay for. These ads aren't clever enough.
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You wrote: there's clearly a lot of PC buyers
and, I am sure you
meant to write: there are clearly a lot of PC buyers
,dave
and a far lower quality display with much lower resolution, 1440x900 compared to the MacBook Pro's 1920x1440.
This made me second-guess myself but it's actually a (still formidable) 1920x1200 on the 17in MacBook Pro
I like this response from Apple, it's a professional and factual response - unlike alot of Microsoft's Ballmer-influenced, childish, misleading remarks and ad campaigns.... bravo Apple.
What we need is a good ole fashioned street fight between Redmond and Cupertino.
I tell my PC friends the same thing about cheap components and price of software and resolution, but they are happy with their cheap shit.
It's like trying to get someone to go into a wine shop and select a $50 bottle of wine, when they are just as happy with a $10 bottle from the grocery store. It's just not worth the effort.
You just made their argument for them...
Why do I need to cough up for expensive hardware when I can spend less and still be happy? I also have AMD (which can be used to get great performance for the money) as a cheaper alternative.
As far as the article... as a Windows user (primarily) well played sir...not much can be said to counter that IMHO.
1) Most PC users worth their salt know that there are plenty of freeware AV programs out there. I personally use AVG Free, but there's also Antivir, Avast, and countless other programs that you DON'T have to pay for and work just fine.
Why pay $150 over three years unless you're an idiot or just made out of money
2) As for the other software titles, you can find freeware versions of just about any kind of program that you need to use on a PC (I use mostly freeware stuff on my Lenovo ThinkPad).
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
That being said, I think it was a classy response from Apple. Microsoft needed to do something because of Apple's constant Microsoft bashing over the years.
Microsoft could have done A LOT better with its current Laptop Hunter ads, but they seem to have made at least a bit of an impression and the fact that an Apple rep took the time to even talk about them says a lot.
Microsoft had better not f**k up with Windows 7 or Apple is gonna be all over them like flies on s**t.
Notice again how it's always HP and the other bottom of the barell Dell and Gateway- never Sony or Lenovo.
I only have a few things to take issue with
1) Most PC users worth their salt know that there are plenty of freeware AV programs out there. I personally use AVG Free, but there's also Antivir, Avast, and countless other programs that you DON'T have to pay for and work just fine.
Why pay $150 over three years unless you're an idiot or just made out of money
2) As for the other software titles, you can find freeware versions of just about any kind of program that you need to use on a PC (I use mostly freeware stuff on my Lenovo ThinkPad).
Hypothetically speaking, I need to use Macnification and Checkout.
Find me the free PC equivalents... go, go, go!
I notice how often PC software is compared to Mac software in a similar fashion to how the hardware is compared. Provided they tick the same feature boxes - they're the same. Only the Mac software is fewer in number and more expensive!
Less tangible factors (but things that day-to-day make a world of difference) such ease of use, user enjoyment and experience, quality, fit and finish etc. never seem to factor.
Who cares about how many titles there are, in any particular area you will typically only use one and in many cases now the Mac has the best options.
SHISH Microsoft, get yourself a new campaigner already!