Did you mistype something? He?s only had his subsidized iPhone less than a year when he signed a two year contract for it. You have have had yours nearly two years, but more importantly, it wasn?t subsidized so you get the upgrade eligible pricing.
You just don't get it. Everyone should get the subsidized pricing. Check that! Everyone should get the iPhone for FREE! It's only fair.
I have been a 2G and 3G user from early days. I went through the ordering process and was told it would be 499 for the 32GB if I bought before 1/1/2010. Just adding another data point here.
GPS shows you where you are. Compass shows you where you are pointed. Full functionality of turn by turn directions are not possible without both components.
Got it. I thought my Garmin knew which way I was facing, but you're right -- I just tried it and it doesn't figure this out until I start moving.
Got it. I thought my Garmin knew which way I was facing, but you're right -- I just tried it and it doesn't figure this out until I start moving.
1) I hope they allow the Maps apps to know my cardinal direction. i use the GPS app a lot and often it assumes i?m pointed in a different direction which adds a complex turn around to my direction which requires clicking through several pages to get to my current position and direction.
2) I hope that future Mac notebooks get the magnetometer so that my Widgets and web pages can tie into an API that can ask for my location. This will help for weather, maps, movie theaters, etc.
It appears most people can upgrade from a 3G to a 3GS -- when not in the discount time period for $200 more than the new subscriber prices.
A 8/16 GB iPhone 3G is nearly the same as a 8/16GB iPod Touch -- plus it has a camera (let's not nit-pick on CPU throttling).
Apple Retails the iPod Touch's at $229 and $299 for the 8 & 16 GB models respectively. eBay yours for $200+ and you have the price difference.
Or use the money to cancel out of a contract and start over.
I'm lucky I can get a new 3G in mid-July at the lower price (I bought an original iPhone in October 07 and then the 3G model in mid-July 08 -- not sure how I get the discount at one year).
I'll look to get the 3GS and sell my old 3G -- or my wife has a crappy Windows Mobile phone on AT&T. I could give her my current 3G without a data plan so she would have the best of the iPhone 3G with OS 3.0.
I have a jailbroken iphone 3G that records video with cycorder; if it can do it why doesn't apple support it on OS3.0?? -->> TO SELL US AN IPHONE 3GS
I have an iphone 3G with an underclocked arm proccessor (600->400mhz), why don't they put it at full speed as in ipod touch 2.0?? -->> TO SELL US AN IPHONE 3GS
If you have an iphone 3G, What do you have to do now? -->> INSTALL OS3.0, JAILBRAKE IT, INSTALL CYCORDER, WAIT FOR OVERCLOCKING PATCH.
The only real news are the compass, the 3mp autofocus camera and maybe 256mb of ram. The rest are software Limitations. Let hackers work...
Just jump off a cliff and die already... We don't need ultra-whiners and thieves on this forum.
APPLE DID NOT LET US RECORD VIDEO WITH THAT CAMERA BECAUSE IT WASN'T MADE FOR VIDEO, AND APPLE ISN'T A HALF-ASS COMPANY SUCH AS MICROSOFT TO MAKE HALF-ASSED PRODUCTS.
APPLE UNDERCLOCKED THE PROCESSOR BECAUSE IT CONSUMES LESS BATTERY AND HEATS LESS. IT IS BETTER TO BUY A CPU WITH MORE POWER THAN YOU NEED AND UNDERCLOCK IT THAN BUY A CHEAPER CPU RUNNING AT FULL. THAT'S WHY PROCESSORS DON'T COME FACTORY OVERCLOCKED.
And there is more, THE 3GS HAS A FASTER PROCESSOR, MORE RAM AND THE CAMERA IS STUNNING.
*************PIXEL COUNT=/=QUALITY**************** FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
There, I hope this makes you less of a troll, or at least convinces you to get your ass outta here.
It looks like you have to own the 3G iPhone at least 18 months in order to qualify for the $299 price upgrade for the 3GS iPhone 32gig.
Oh well, I guess I have to be patient. \
I wonder after the initial hype, AT&T will be more flexible on these terms.
Like any business, you can persuade ATT by talking dollars and cents. Don't be one of those dummies who walks in and tries to complain your way to something for free. If you pay over $100 a month for your cell service, you stand a pretty good shot of being able to bargain with them. The more you spend, the more they are willing to deal, because the marginal cost of minutes on cell service is effectively zero. High minute plans make ATT MUCH more money than low minute plans, and they will do what it takes to keep those valuable customers happy at the expense of the relatively less valuable ones.
GPS shows you where you are. Compass shows you where you are pointed. Full functionality of turn by turn directions are not possible without both components.
I think your last statement would be misleading for a lot of people.
Turn-By-Turn directions in iPhone OS 3.0 will be exactly like most portable GPS units current sold -- which DO NOT have a compass in them. Every portable GPS unit I have used (multiple Garmin units, Tom Tom, and NavMan) needs to be in motion so it can calculate your direction/speed by changes in your location --basically to figure out where you are pointing. There are multiple applications for the 3G now under iPhone OS 2.x that do that -- once you start moving a bit.
Having the compass will be a "notch" above that in the 3GS, but Tom Tom's software will work nearly as well on the current 3G models with the iPhone 3.0 OS.
Just jump off a cliff and die already... We don't need ultra-whiners and thieves on this forum.
APPLE DID NOT LET US RECORD VIDEO WITH THAT CAMERA BECAUSE IT WASN'T MADE FOR VIDEO, AND APPLE ISN'T A HALF-ASS COMPANY SUCH AS MICROSOFT TO MAKE HALF-ASSED PRODUCTS.
APPLE UNDERCLOCKED THE PROCESSOR BECAUSE IT CONSUMES LESS BATTERY AND HEATS LESS. IT IS BETTER TO BUY A CPU WITH MORE POWER THAN YOU NEED AND UNDERCLOCK IT THAN BUY A CHEAPER CPU RUNNING AT FULL. THAT'S WHY PROCESSORS DON'T COME FACTORY OVERCLOCKED.
And there is more, THE 3GS HAS A FASTER PROCESSOR, MORE RAM AND THE CAMERA IS STUNNING.
*************PIXEL COUNT=/=QUALITY**************** FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
There, I hope this makes you less of a troll, or at least convinces you to get your ass outta here.
We suspect the 3gs has a faster processor and more ram but we have no proof so unless you have actual evidence dont state it as fact.
Also go and tell me that my touch pro is half assed It has all the fetaures that the 3gs has.
PS i just bought a iphone 3gs so dont call me a fanboy either.
Like any business, you can persuade ATT by talking dollars and cents. Don't be one of those dummies who walks in and tries to complain your way to something for free. If you pay over $100 a month for your cell service, you stand a pretty good shot of being able to bargain with them. The more you spend, the more they are willing to deal, because the marginal cost of minutes on cell service is effectively zero. High minute plans make ATT MUCH more money than low minute plans, and they will do what it takes to keep those valuable customers happy at the expense of the relatively less valuable ones.
I agreed, AT&T is not dumb to turn away consumers that want to upgrade and extend their services with them. In the end is $$$. Pretty sure after the initial hype of June/july sales, AT&T will be more willing to sell at subsidized prices the 3GS to current 3G owners.
I agreed, AT&T is not dumb to turn away consumers that want to upgrade and extend their services with them. In the end is $$$. Pretty sure after the initial hype of June/july sales, AT&T will be more willing to sell at subsidized prices the 3GS to current 3G owners.
Note that ?non-upgrade eligible? pricing of $399 for the 16GB and $499 for the 32GB iPhone is still subsidized from AT&T by $200. It is not the retail price, which is $200 more, is being offered to current iPhone 3G owners during the first 4 weeks before a full year of iPhone 3G sales are up.
You can save money by canceling your account ($175 minus $5 times each full month), but you won?t get your same number, I don?t think, and you also have to go through the rigamarole of singing up again.
I agreed, AT&T is not dumb to turn away consumers that want to upgrade and extend their services with them. In the end is $$$. Pretty sure after the initial hype of June/july sales, AT&T will be more willing to sell at subsidized prices the 3GS to current 3G owners.
Current 3G owners who pay well more than the typical average 3G owner does.
Hype dying down will not reduce the price that ATT pays Apple for the 3GS.
I'm surprised they didn't change the look at least a little, in part to shake things up a bit and so it's more apparent whether it's the new model or not.
Just jump off a cliff and die already... We don't need ultra-whiners and thieves on this forum.
Just to make it clear, we don't need people talking like that or typing in all caps either. You may think you're better than certain other people, but you're not talking any better than the people you complain about.
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And there is more, THE 3GS HAS A FASTER PROCESSOR, MORE RAM AND THE CAMERA IS STUNNING.
*************PIXEL COUNT=/=QUALITY**************** FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
Have you used the 3GS camera? How can you say it's stunning unless you've actually tried it?
A more realistic scenario is that because of the inclusion of their own home made silicon, that *next* years iPhone (12 months, not 3-6), will be a significant redesign of the whole handset. They have enough hassles upgrading everything on a yearly schedule. I don't see them switching to a six month schedule.
This year seems to be about tweaking the original 3G to answer all the critics and all the whining about "what's missing" from the iPhone. The 3.0 software, on the new hardware basically answers every post you've ever read anywhere where some idiot is going on about their favourite feature that other phones have that iPhone doesn't. They are also lowering the price so that they can push it out worldwide in some kind of crazy volume.
Unfortunately, (or fortunately for Apple), the carriers are not stepping up to the plate in terms of either service or lowering their prices to something more reasonable. This means that with *next* year's iPhone, the major barrier to adoption will be the carriers themselves. Look for Apple to focus next year not only on a ridiculously cool and fast redesigned iPhone, but also on lowering that last barrier by offering the iPhone to more carriers. In many countries the CDMA networks are being replaced with newer gear. In Canada for example, by next year or very soon after, there will be three different carriers that will be able to support iPhone, not just one like now.
I agree with most of what you said, however, there is no technical reason why AT&T (or other
carrier) have to wait for a new hardware model to be released to lower their prices. If sales
of the new model are below their hopes, carriers may start lowering plan prices soon after
they have sold to as many early adopters (of the new model) as they can get. I think that AT&T
would be particularly likely to lower plan prices later this year in order to sell more iPhones and
give Apple a reason to stay with AT&T exclusively. Limiting iPhone sales through high plan
prices would be pushing Apple into Verizon's arms (or tentacles, if you prefer).
On the other hand, if AT&T believes Apple is going to expand to Verizon next year anyway,
they may not care about pushing iPhones as much this year, and your predictions will turn
I'm surprised they didn't change the look at least a little, in part to shake things up a bit and so it's more apparent whether it's the new model or not.
That is actually impressive that no case changes were needed. I guess all the old parts and new parts were pretty easy to place. I am looking forward to seeing it dissected.
Pixel count = Quality? A vast oversimplification of the factors involved in taking high quality pictures. While it is true that all other factors being equal, more pixels = more resolution, all other factors are seldom equal. For example, the great majority of compact 12 Megapixel point and shoots don't take nearly as good pics as 8 Megapixel DSLR's.
Lens quality is telling. The materials used, the size of the lens itself (light gathering capacity) and much more. E.g., for one thing, you inherently have much less control of "depth of field" in any compact P&S.
And then there's the metering/exposure systems, the recording software, the sensor itself (not all pixel-recording surfaces are created equal) and more. Pixel count, therefore, while not entirely irrelevant, is really only this year's CPU GHz marketing tool for those who don't know a great deal about what makes a good camera and a good picture-taking system.
Meanwhile, I have what I think is an interesting tech question about the camera feature.....
...iPhone OS 3 allows interfacing other hardware to the phone. Having had a number of flashless cellphone cameras which are nearly useless (inside because they're not sensitive enough for regular indoor lighting, and outside because the viewfinder washes out so much you can't see what you're photographing), I'm wondering if someone could offer a flash (not Flash) peripheral for indoor photography, i.e., a tiny little clip on flash attachment.
That alone would lead to much better photographs all around, especially with good software allowing control over fill flash, degree of flash, diffusion, etc. And I think push me over the edge to buy.
Pixel count = Quality? A vast oversimplification of the factors involved in taking high quality pictures. While it is true that all other factors being equal, more pixels = more resolution, all other factors are seldom equal. For example, the great majority of compact 12 Megapixel point and shoots don't take nearly as good pics as 8 Megapixel DSLR's.
Lens quality is telling. The materials used, the size of the lens itself (light gathering capacity) and much more. E.g., for one thing, you inherently have much less control of "depth of field" in any compact P&S.
And then there's the metering/exposure systems, the recording software, the sensor itself (not all pixel-recording surfaces are created equal) and more. Pixel count, therefore, while not entirely irrelevant, is really only this year's CPU GHz marketing tool for those who don't know a great deal about what makes a good camera and a good picture-taking system.
Meanwhile, I have what I think is an interesting tech question about the camera feature.....
...iPhone OS 3 allows interfacing other hardware to the phone. Having had a number of flashless cellphone cameras which are nearly useless (inside because they're not sensitive enough for regular indoor lighting, and outside because the viewfinder washes out so much you can't see what you're photographing), I'm wondering if someone could offer a flash (not Flash) peripheral for indoor photography, i.e., a tiny little clip on flash attachment.
That alone would lead to much better photographs all around, especially with good software allowing control over fill flash, degree of flash, diffusion, etc. And I think push me over the edge to buy.
Heck couldnt they offer a small clip on camera with little zoom lens that clips onto the back of the iphone and connects to the 30pin connector?
Pixel count = Quality? A vast oversimplification of the factors involved in taking high quality
You could have saved a lot of writing, that wasn't what was meant. "=/=" is a keyboard-friendly and cross text encoding standard symbol that means not equal to: ≠.
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Did you mistype something? He?s only had his subsidized iPhone less than a year when he signed a two year contract for it. You have have had yours nearly two years, but more importantly, it wasn?t subsidized so you get the upgrade eligible pricing.
You just don't get it. Everyone should get the subsidized pricing. Check that! Everyone should get the iPhone for FREE! It's only fair.
When's the next flight to Cuba anyway?
GPS shows you where you are. Compass shows you where you are pointed. Full functionality of turn by turn directions are not possible without both components.
Got it. I thought my Garmin knew which way I was facing, but you're right -- I just tried it and it doesn't figure this out until I start moving.
Oh well, I guess I have to be patient.
I wonder after the initial hype, AT&T will be more flexible on these terms.
Got it. I thought my Garmin knew which way I was facing, but you're right -- I just tried it and it doesn't figure this out until I start moving.
1) I hope they allow the Maps apps to know my cardinal direction. i use the GPS app a lot and often it assumes i?m pointed in a different direction which adds a complex turn around to my direction which requires clicking through several pages to get to my current position and direction.
2) I hope that future Mac notebooks get the magnetometer so that my Widgets and web pages can tie into an API that can ask for my location. This will help for weather, maps, movie theaters, etc.
A 8/16 GB iPhone 3G is nearly the same as a 8/16GB iPod Touch -- plus it has a camera (let's not nit-pick on CPU throttling).
Apple Retails the iPod Touch's at $229 and $299 for the 8 & 16 GB models respectively. eBay yours for $200+ and you have the price difference.
Or use the money to cancel out of a contract and start over.
I'm lucky I can get a new 3G in mid-July at the lower price (I bought an original iPhone in October 07 and then the 3G model in mid-July 08 -- not sure how I get the discount at one year).
I'll look to get the 3GS and sell my old 3G -- or my wife has a crappy Windows Mobile phone on AT&T. I could give her my current 3G without a data plan so she would have the best of the iPhone 3G with OS 3.0.
Some trivial questions:
I have a jailbroken iphone 3G that records video with cycorder; if it can do it why doesn't apple support it on OS3.0?? -->> TO SELL US AN IPHONE 3GS
I have an iphone 3G with an underclocked arm proccessor (600->400mhz), why don't they put it at full speed as in ipod touch 2.0?? -->> TO SELL US AN IPHONE 3GS
If you have an iphone 3G, What do you have to do now? -->> INSTALL OS3.0, JAILBRAKE IT, INSTALL CYCORDER, WAIT FOR OVERCLOCKING PATCH.
The only real news are the compass, the 3mp autofocus camera and maybe 256mb of ram. The rest are software Limitations. Let hackers work...
Just jump off a cliff and die already... We don't need ultra-whiners and thieves on this forum.
APPLE DID NOT LET US RECORD VIDEO WITH THAT CAMERA BECAUSE IT WASN'T MADE FOR VIDEO, AND APPLE ISN'T A HALF-ASS COMPANY SUCH AS MICROSOFT TO MAKE HALF-ASSED PRODUCTS.
APPLE UNDERCLOCKED THE PROCESSOR BECAUSE IT CONSUMES LESS BATTERY AND HEATS LESS. IT IS BETTER TO BUY A CPU WITH MORE POWER THAN YOU NEED AND UNDERCLOCK IT THAN BUY A CHEAPER CPU RUNNING AT FULL. THAT'S WHY PROCESSORS DON'T COME FACTORY OVERCLOCKED.
And there is more, THE 3GS HAS A FASTER PROCESSOR, MORE RAM AND THE CAMERA IS STUNNING.
*************PIXEL COUNT=/=QUALITY**************** FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
There, I hope this makes you less of a troll, or at least convinces you to get your ass outta here.
It looks like you have to own the 3G iPhone at least 18 months in order to qualify for the $299 price upgrade for the 3GS iPhone 32gig.
Oh well, I guess I have to be patient.
I wonder after the initial hype, AT&T will be more flexible on these terms.
Like any business, you can persuade ATT by talking dollars and cents. Don't be one of those dummies who walks in and tries to complain your way to something for free. If you pay over $100 a month for your cell service, you stand a pretty good shot of being able to bargain with them. The more you spend, the more they are willing to deal, because the marginal cost of minutes on cell service is effectively zero. High minute plans make ATT MUCH more money than low minute plans, and they will do what it takes to keep those valuable customers happy at the expense of the relatively less valuable ones.
Know which way you are facing?
GPS shows you where you are. Compass shows you where you are pointed. Full functionality of turn by turn directions are not possible without both components.
I think your last statement would be misleading for a lot of people.
Turn-By-Turn directions in iPhone OS 3.0 will be exactly like most portable GPS units current sold -- which DO NOT have a compass in them. Every portable GPS unit I have used (multiple Garmin units, Tom Tom, and NavMan) needs to be in motion so it can calculate your direction/speed by changes in your location --basically to figure out where you are pointing. There are multiple applications for the 3G now under iPhone OS 2.x that do that -- once you start moving a bit.
Having the compass will be a "notch" above that in the 3GS, but Tom Tom's software will work nearly as well on the current 3G models with the iPhone 3.0 OS.
Just jump off a cliff and die already... We don't need ultra-whiners and thieves on this forum.
APPLE DID NOT LET US RECORD VIDEO WITH THAT CAMERA BECAUSE IT WASN'T MADE FOR VIDEO, AND APPLE ISN'T A HALF-ASS COMPANY SUCH AS MICROSOFT TO MAKE HALF-ASSED PRODUCTS.
APPLE UNDERCLOCKED THE PROCESSOR BECAUSE IT CONSUMES LESS BATTERY AND HEATS LESS. IT IS BETTER TO BUY A CPU WITH MORE POWER THAN YOU NEED AND UNDERCLOCK IT THAN BUY A CHEAPER CPU RUNNING AT FULL. THAT'S WHY PROCESSORS DON'T COME FACTORY OVERCLOCKED.
And there is more, THE 3GS HAS A FASTER PROCESSOR, MORE RAM AND THE CAMERA IS STUNNING.
*************PIXEL COUNT=/=QUALITY**************** FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
There, I hope this makes you less of a troll, or at least convinces you to get your ass outta here.
We suspect the 3gs has a faster processor and more ram but we have no proof so unless you have actual evidence dont state it as fact.
Also go and tell me that my touch pro is half assed It has all the fetaures that the 3gs has.
PS i just bought a iphone 3gs so dont call me a fanboy either.
Like any business, you can persuade ATT by talking dollars and cents. Don't be one of those dummies who walks in and tries to complain your way to something for free. If you pay over $100 a month for your cell service, you stand a pretty good shot of being able to bargain with them. The more you spend, the more they are willing to deal, because the marginal cost of minutes on cell service is effectively zero. High minute plans make ATT MUCH more money than low minute plans, and they will do what it takes to keep those valuable customers happy at the expense of the relatively less valuable ones.
I agreed, AT&T is not dumb to turn away consumers that want to upgrade and extend their services with them. In the end is $$$. Pretty sure after the initial hype of June/july sales, AT&T will be more willing to sell at subsidized prices the 3GS to current 3G owners.
I agreed, AT&T is not dumb to turn away consumers that want to upgrade and extend their services with them. In the end is $$$. Pretty sure after the initial hype of June/july sales, AT&T will be more willing to sell at subsidized prices the 3GS to current 3G owners.
Note that ?non-upgrade eligible? pricing of $399 for the 16GB and $499 for the 32GB iPhone is still subsidized from AT&T by $200. It is not the retail price, which is $200 more, is being offered to current iPhone 3G owners during the first 4 weeks before a full year of iPhone 3G sales are up.
You can save money by canceling your account ($175 minus $5 times each full month), but you won?t get your same number, I don?t think, and you also have to go through the rigamarole of singing up again.
I agreed, AT&T is not dumb to turn away consumers that want to upgrade and extend their services with them. In the end is $$$. Pretty sure after the initial hype of June/july sales, AT&T will be more willing to sell at subsidized prices the 3GS to current 3G owners.
Current 3G owners who pay well more than the typical average 3G owner does.
Hype dying down will not reduce the price that ATT pays Apple for the 3GS.
Just jump off a cliff and die already... We don't need ultra-whiners and thieves on this forum.
Just to make it clear, we don't need people talking like that or typing in all caps either. You may think you're better than certain other people, but you're not talking any better than the people you complain about.
And there is more, THE 3GS HAS A FASTER PROCESSOR, MORE RAM AND THE CAMERA IS STUNNING.
*************PIXEL COUNT=/=QUALITY**************** FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
Have you used the 3GS camera? How can you say it's stunning unless you've actually tried it?
A more realistic scenario is that because of the inclusion of their own home made silicon, that *next* years iPhone (12 months, not 3-6), will be a significant redesign of the whole handset. They have enough hassles upgrading everything on a yearly schedule. I don't see them switching to a six month schedule.
This year seems to be about tweaking the original 3G to answer all the critics and all the whining about "what's missing" from the iPhone. The 3.0 software, on the new hardware basically answers every post you've ever read anywhere where some idiot is going on about their favourite feature that other phones have that iPhone doesn't. They are also lowering the price so that they can push it out worldwide in some kind of crazy volume.
Unfortunately, (or fortunately for Apple), the carriers are not stepping up to the plate in terms of either service or lowering their prices to something more reasonable. This means that with *next* year's iPhone, the major barrier to adoption will be the carriers themselves. Look for Apple to focus next year not only on a ridiculously cool and fast redesigned iPhone, but also on lowering that last barrier by offering the iPhone to more carriers. In many countries the CDMA networks are being replaced with newer gear. In Canada for example, by next year or very soon after, there will be three different carriers that will be able to support iPhone, not just one like now.
I agree with most of what you said, however, there is no technical reason why AT&T (or other
carrier) have to wait for a new hardware model to be released to lower their prices. If sales
of the new model are below their hopes, carriers may start lowering plan prices soon after
they have sold to as many early adopters (of the new model) as they can get. I think that AT&T
would be particularly likely to lower plan prices later this year in order to sell more iPhones and
give Apple a reason to stay with AT&T exclusively. Limiting iPhone sales through high plan
prices would be pushing Apple into Verizon's arms (or tentacles, if you prefer).
On the other hand, if AT&T believes Apple is going to expand to Verizon next year anyway,
they may not care about pushing iPhones as much this year, and your predictions will turn
out to be correct.
I'm surprised they didn't change the look at least a little, in part to shake things up a bit and so it's more apparent whether it's the new model or not.
That is actually impressive that no case changes were needed. I guess all the old parts and new parts were pretty easy to place. I am looking forward to seeing it dissected.
THE CAMERA IS STUNNING.
*************PIXEL COUNT=/=QUALITY****************
Stunning? Remains to be seen in the real world.
Pixel count = Quality? A vast oversimplification of the factors involved in taking high quality pictures. While it is true that all other factors being equal, more pixels = more resolution, all other factors are seldom equal. For example, the great majority of compact 12 Megapixel point and shoots don't take nearly as good pics as 8 Megapixel DSLR's.
Lens quality is telling. The materials used, the size of the lens itself (light gathering capacity) and much more. E.g., for one thing, you inherently have much less control of "depth of field" in any compact P&S.
And then there's the metering/exposure systems, the recording software, the sensor itself (not all pixel-recording surfaces are created equal) and more. Pixel count, therefore, while not entirely irrelevant, is really only this year's CPU GHz marketing tool for those who don't know a great deal about what makes a good camera and a good picture-taking system.
Meanwhile, I have what I think is an interesting tech question about the camera feature.....
...iPhone OS 3 allows interfacing other hardware to the phone. Having had a number of flashless cellphone cameras which are nearly useless (inside because they're not sensitive enough for regular indoor lighting, and outside because the viewfinder washes out so much you can't see what you're photographing), I'm wondering if someone could offer a flash (not Flash) peripheral for indoor photography, i.e., a tiny little clip on flash attachment.
That alone would lead to much better photographs all around, especially with good software allowing control over fill flash, degree of flash, diffusion, etc. And I think push me over the edge to buy.
Stunning? Remains to be seen in the real world.
Pixel count = Quality? A vast oversimplification of the factors involved in taking high quality pictures. While it is true that all other factors being equal, more pixels = more resolution, all other factors are seldom equal. For example, the great majority of compact 12 Megapixel point and shoots don't take nearly as good pics as 8 Megapixel DSLR's.
Lens quality is telling. The materials used, the size of the lens itself (light gathering capacity) and much more. E.g., for one thing, you inherently have much less control of "depth of field" in any compact P&S.
And then there's the metering/exposure systems, the recording software, the sensor itself (not all pixel-recording surfaces are created equal) and more. Pixel count, therefore, while not entirely irrelevant, is really only this year's CPU GHz marketing tool for those who don't know a great deal about what makes a good camera and a good picture-taking system.
Meanwhile, I have what I think is an interesting tech question about the camera feature.....
...iPhone OS 3 allows interfacing other hardware to the phone. Having had a number of flashless cellphone cameras which are nearly useless (inside because they're not sensitive enough for regular indoor lighting, and outside because the viewfinder washes out so much you can't see what you're photographing), I'm wondering if someone could offer a flash (not Flash) peripheral for indoor photography, i.e., a tiny little clip on flash attachment.
That alone would lead to much better photographs all around, especially with good software allowing control over fill flash, degree of flash, diffusion, etc. And I think push me over the edge to buy.
Heck couldnt they offer a small clip on camera with little zoom lens that clips onto the back of the iphone and connects to the 30pin connector?
Stunning? Remains to be seen in the real world.
Pixel count = Quality? A vast oversimplification of the factors involved in taking high quality
You could have saved a lot of writing, that wasn't what was meant. "=/=" is a keyboard-friendly and cross text encoding standard symbol that means not equal to: ≠.