Ouch...and they are making some folks pony up $100.
Few months ago my iPhone 3G headphone button was acting up (I admit abusing them). One weekend I was at the mall and decided to go to the Apple store and see what they can do, no appointment. They replaced them on the spot no questions asked. There was a guy next to me who was complaining about his iPhone getting warm. The manager apologized and told him it is normal but will exchanged his iPhone for free.
I have never seen this before in my life. Every time I tried to get something repaired I used to spend more than half the time explaining the problem and convince them that it was not my fault and ending up paying for the repairs myself. This never happened to me with Apple and this is why paying extra for Apple products never bothered me.
This is a good sign for background apps coming to the iPhone 3GS looking at the available RAM in iStat. It's not the only factor but it's the primary one to consider before any other metric.
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44 people reading this thread right now, only 11 of you have the time to say if your phone got faster or slower after OS 3.0? Cmon
I have never seen this before in my life. Every time I tried to get something repaired I used to spend more than half the time explaining the problem and convince them the it was not my fault and ends up paying for the repairs. This never happened to me with Apple.
I have a unibody MB trackpad wonkiness. Requires sending it in, but I was able to get a new iPhone cable (it was offered after seeing how mine was tore up) and get new in-ear headphones. The new ones are more rubbery, which helps prevent them from getting tangled but the rubber on all three ends have ripped. I’ve had them yanked quite a few times but this ripping seems to be a flaw in the design. The built-in controls still work and are still firmly attached despite what some here would like you to think about that nifty inclusion.
I did buy the Nike+ fob with my iPhone 3GS. Since I don’t need the 802.11 receiver sticking out of my iDevice anymore I figured I’d get another one. I gave my last one away as it wasn’t convenient enough.
Was that sales figure just for phone sales? I don't think so. They charge for their servers as well as for other support services. That's a large part of their sales.
That would strengthen my point, since $450 would be an upper limit.
Well I guess the real question is what are the percentage of games and junk App vs real utility /productivity Apps. Has a pie chart ever ben shown? The perception is more of the former rather than the latter.
I would have expected the nature of WebOS to offer a faster system but it seems that they haven't optimized well for the HW.
More probably, palm actually dogfoods, so they code apps with Mojo and the launch time we can see is the difference between launching native apps and launching an interpreter to run the apps.
Of course, one has to remember that once an application is launched on the Pre, barring memory constraints it can stay open. On the iPhone, not so much.
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Originally Posted by brucep
Good Read . The pre doesn't matter anymore. They can sell a trillion. But the sweet sexy powerful 3gs,is the new standard by which all phones will be measured. Not to better the 3gs . No no that won't happen. We gauge how close any new phone can come to the 3gs.
That article reads like an ad, for what it's worth. It's disgusting.
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Originally Posted by brucep
This like the titanic sinking
Not more than the iPhone hairline crack, or the whitebook hairline & palmrest cracks.
It was a given the Pre's hardware would have issues, your feigning surprise at it is disingenuous, especially on an Apple forum given Apple's track record on 1st-gen hardware casings.
Well I guess the real question is what are the percentage of games and junk App vs real utility /productivity Apps. Has a pie chart ever ben shown? The perception is more of the former rather than the latter.
It still is. But if you have only had it for only 6 months they are letting you get a new iPhone by letting you trading in your old one for $50 more, i.e., $250*.
The other deal, i.e., if you qualify, i.e., have had the iPhone for 9-12 months and your basic monthly service charges (not including extras like minutes, long distance, etc., or taxes) are $100 or more, you can get a new iPhone for $199.
More probably, palm actually dogfoods, so they code apps with Mojo and the launch time we can see is the difference between launching native apps and launching an interpreter to run the apps.
Of course, one has to remember that once an application is launched on the Pre, barring memory constraints it can stay open. On the iPhone, not so much.
More probably, optimization is usually the last thing you do unless performance is really hideous.
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That article reads like an ad, for what it's worth. It's disgusting.
All it is saying is that the software is what makes the iPhone special. Just like for the iPod. So while it's not very profound, it also happens to be true.
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Not more than the iPhone hairline crack, or the whitebook hairline & palmrest cracks.
It was a given the Pre's hardware would have issues, your feigning surprise at it is disingenuous, especially on an Apple forum given Apple's track record on 1st-gen hardware casings.
Except even in Apple's worst days when Jobs came back they had money in the bank - 1.3B in 1999...not $176M. Total equity for Palm is $111M vs $3B for Apple in 1999.
I don't have the balance sheet for Apple in 1997 but they payed $427M for NeXT. As grim as it was in 1997 APPL had the ability to launch a couple major products without trouble.
Palm does not. This is Palm's last shot and cracks appearing this early, and that major isn't a good thing. And no, it wasn't a given that the Pre would have hardware issues. I have a Tungsten that I finally broke that was rock solid.
Few months ago my iPhone 3G headphone button was acting up (I admit abusing them). One weekend I was at the mall and decided to go to the Apple store and see what they can do, no appointment. They replaced them on the spot no questions asked. There was a guy next to me who was complaining about his iPhone getting warm. The manager apologized and told him it is normal but will exchanged his iPhone for free.
I have never seen this before in my life. Every time I tried to get something repaired I used to spend more than half the time explaining the problem and convince them that it was not my fault and ending up paying for the repairs myself. This never happened to me with Apple and this is why paying extra for Apple products never bothered me.
Yah, like a moron I had bought an airport extreme from CompUSA on close out that was bad. They said "Dude, that wasn't too bright" (in a consoling way) and gave me a new one anyway rather than sending it in for repair which they could have done.
More probably, palm actually dogfoods, so they code apps with Mojo and
Not more than the iPhone hairline crack, or the whitebook hairline & palmrest cracks.
It was a given the Pre's hardware would have issues, your feigning surprise at it is disingenuous, especially on an Apple forum given Apple's track record on 1st-gen hardware casings.
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It is not a given that some one spends a ton of money with a locked 2 yrs contract for the plastic screen to crack and fall away.
Go to pre central and read what pre people are saying, ThEy are fleeing a sinking ship.Also what does apple anything have to do with this. The hair line cracks are a joke no big deal.
THe cube is still sold today . ITS called the mini.
Well, its getting scratched. How will the public react to that, long term? They'll need a completely different design for a glass screen, because for one, they'll need to recess it a bit for safety.
Um, the iphone didn't recess it's screen...also Apple comped new phones during launch for pretty much anything if you could get to an Apple store. Folks had dropped and shattered their phones and got new ones.
Not more than the iPhone hairline crack, or the whitebook hairline & palmrest cracks.
It was a given the Pre's hardware would have issues, your feigning surprise at it is disingenuous, especially on an Apple forum given Apple's track record on 1st-gen hardware casings.
While it would be inappropriate to discuss Palm's quality issues in disaparaging terms without including similar issues with Apple products, the real question is to what degree Palm (and Sprint) can a) absorb this problem with respect to costs in the short term, and b) how this issue, coupled with the iPhone 3G S' success will affect Palm's brand image (and consequently Sprint's bottom line) in the long term.
I'm not sure what Sprint's numbers are and how strapped Palm was before the Pre's release, but from what could be gleaned from the news and industry analysts, neither was doing very well. Some have even remarked that the Pre is supposed to "save" Sprint.
The good news is that the Pre, for all its growing pains, is shaping up to be a much better challenger to the iPhone than others, and all it really needs to get meaningful traction in this market is a solid software/hardware upgrade track along with a robust and usable app store. the question here is whether Palm can keep pace with iPhone development. The Pre still doesn't seem to have that "sweet spot" - that perfect balance between hardware and software, that the iPhone seems to have in spades.
update on the Cracked screen disaster. and some comments from palm pre central
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Cracked Screen - Carrying Pre front pant pocket
Be careful, don't let this happen to your Pre.
I really have no idea how it happened, possibly while I was sitting in a chair that had plastic arms - and my leg pressed against it.
Looks like a soft case is needed - or maybe make certain the screen side is against your leg and not facing out.
I guess I'll find out tomorrow if TEP was worth my investment or not....
The cracks start at the button and go all the way up the screen. There are twice as many cracks as you can see in the pictures.
Display still works fine, however touch is all messed up. Bottom third of the screen doesn't touch, and a spot on the middle of the screen keeps "touching" automatically every couple of seconds. Can't even answer the phone because I can't slide the green dot up.
Damn, that sucks. Is the Pre really that fragile? Someone in another thread mention that his wife cracked her screen already.
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Glass is no better, my son cracked his head the first day he got it. Unfortunately no insurance, so he is living with a crack across the top of his screen
Well, I'd live with it probably, as you can only see the cracks if you look from the side. The problem is the touch is messed up, I assume as a result of the cracks - so the device is impossible to operate properly.
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Originally Posted by teckstud
wow same thing happen to my two wife's!!
Her pre work for couple hours until the cracks got longer then she starting crying lol
Did your wife know what caused the damage? Or was she suprised (like I was) that anything had even happened?
Comments
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=99533
Ouch...and they are making some folks pony up $100.
Few months ago my iPhone 3G headphone button was acting up (I admit abusing them). One weekend I was at the mall and decided to go to the Apple store and see what they can do, no appointment. They replaced them on the spot no questions asked. There was a guy next to me who was complaining about his iPhone getting warm. The manager apologized and told him it is normal but will exchanged his iPhone for free.
I have never seen this before in my life. Every time I tried to get something repaired I used to spend more than half the time explaining the problem and convince them that it was not my fault and ending up paying for the repairs myself. This never happened to me with Apple and this is why paying extra for Apple products never bothered me.
44 people reading this thread right now, only 11 of you have the time to say if your phone got faster or slower after OS 3.0? Cmon
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=99533
Friday it was crazy in here…
I have never seen this before in my life. Every time I tried to get something repaired I used to spend more than half the time explaining the problem and convince them the it was not my fault and ends up paying for the repairs. This never happened to me with Apple.
I have a unibody MB trackpad wonkiness. Requires sending it in, but I was able to get a new iPhone cable (it was offered after seeing how mine was tore up) and get new in-ear headphones. The new ones are more rubbery, which helps prevent them from getting tangled but the rubber on all three ends have ripped. I’ve had them yanked quite a few times but this ripping seems to be a flaw in the design. The built-in controls still work and are still firmly attached despite what some here would like you to think about that nifty inclusion.
I did buy the Nike+ fob with my iPhone 3GS. Since I don’t need the 802.11 receiver sticking out of my iDevice anymore I figured I’d get another one. I gave my last one away as it wasn’t convenient enough.
Either that or it means Pre-eminent.
No it's 'Pre-viously' worked at Apple where we got all the ideas.
Was that sales figure just for phone sales? I don't think so. They charge for their servers as well as for other support services. That's a large part of their sales.
That would strengthen my point, since $450 would be an upper limit.
Well I guess the real question is what are the percentage of games and junk App vs real utility /productivity Apps. Has a pie chart ever ben shown? The perception is more of the former rather than the latter.
one man's trash is another man's treasure
If somehow they'd made a KB just like the 650, it's likely I'd have the pre. Secondarily, the smaller screen.
Amazing! This is some very interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.
Why thank you
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I would have expected the nature of WebOS to offer a faster system but it seems that they haven't optimized well for the HW.
More probably, palm actually dogfoods, so they code apps with Mojo and the launch time we can see is the difference between launching native apps and launching an interpreter to run the apps.
Of course, one has to remember that once an application is launched on the Pre, barring memory constraints it can stay open. On the iPhone, not so much.
Good Read . The pre doesn't matter anymore. They can sell a trillion. But the sweet sexy powerful 3gs,is the new standard by which all phones will be measured. Not to better the 3gs . No no that won't happen. We gauge how close any new phone can come to the 3gs.
That article reads like an ad, for what it's worth. It's disgusting.
This like the titanic sinking
Not more than the iPhone hairline crack, or the whitebook hairline & palmrest cracks.
It was a given the Pre's hardware would have issues, your feigning surprise at it is disingenuous, especially on an Apple forum given Apple's track record on 1st-gen hardware casings.
Well I guess the real question is what are the percentage of games and junk App vs real utility /productivity Apps. Has a pie chart ever ben shown? The perception is more of the former rather than the latter.
Your skewed perception maybe.
I'm truly sick of the Apple haters for whom the glass is ALWAYS half-empty.
I truly do believe they're envious geeks, one and all.
I thought it was $199.
I'll have had mine for a full year come Aug 1.
It still is. But if you have only had it for only 6 months they are letting you get a new iPhone by letting you trading in your old one for $50 more, i.e., $250*.
The other deal, i.e., if you qualify, i.e., have had the iPhone for 9-12 months and your basic monthly service charges (not including extras like minutes, long distance, etc., or taxes) are $100 or more, you can get a new iPhone for $199.
Nothing to do with the exchange rate.
$250 CDN = $220 US.
44 people reading this thread right now, only 11 of you have the time to say if your phone got faster or slower after OS 3.0? Cmon
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=99533
Most don't have an iPhone
More probably, palm actually dogfoods, so they code apps with Mojo and the launch time we can see is the difference between launching native apps and launching an interpreter to run the apps.
Of course, one has to remember that once an application is launched on the Pre, barring memory constraints it can stay open. On the iPhone, not so much.
More probably, optimization is usually the last thing you do unless performance is really hideous.
That article reads like an ad, for what it's worth. It's disgusting.
All it is saying is that the software is what makes the iPhone special. Just like for the iPod. So while it's not very profound, it also happens to be true.
Not more than the iPhone hairline crack, or the whitebook hairline & palmrest cracks.
It was a given the Pre's hardware would have issues, your feigning surprise at it is disingenuous, especially on an Apple forum given Apple's track record on 1st-gen hardware casings.
Except even in Apple's worst days when Jobs came back they had money in the bank - 1.3B in 1999...not $176M. Total equity for Palm is $111M vs $3B for Apple in 1999.
I don't have the balance sheet for Apple in 1997 but they payed $427M for NeXT. As grim as it was in 1997 APPL had the ability to launch a couple major products without trouble.
Palm does not. This is Palm's last shot and cracks appearing this early, and that major isn't a good thing. And no, it wasn't a given that the Pre would have hardware issues. I have a Tungsten that I finally broke that was rock solid.
Few months ago my iPhone 3G headphone button was acting up (I admit abusing them). One weekend I was at the mall and decided to go to the Apple store and see what they can do, no appointment. They replaced them on the spot no questions asked. There was a guy next to me who was complaining about his iPhone getting warm. The manager apologized and told him it is normal but will exchanged his iPhone for free.
I have never seen this before in my life. Every time I tried to get something repaired I used to spend more than half the time explaining the problem and convince them that it was not my fault and ending up paying for the repairs myself. This never happened to me with Apple and this is why paying extra for Apple products never bothered me.
Yah, like a moron I had bought an airport extreme from CompUSA on close out that was bad. They said "Dude, that wasn't too bright" (in a consoling way) and gave me a new one anyway rather than sending it in for repair which they could have done.
More probably, palm actually dogfoods, so they code apps with Mojo and
Not more than the iPhone hairline crack, or the whitebook hairline & palmrest cracks.
It was a given the Pre's hardware would have issues, your feigning surprise at it is disingenuous, especially on an Apple forum given Apple's track record on 1st-gen hardware casings.
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It is not a given that some one spends a ton of money with a locked 2 yrs contract for the plastic screen to crack and fall away.
Go to pre central and read what pre people are saying, ThEy are fleeing a sinking ship.Also what does apple anything have to do with this. The hair line cracks are a joke no big deal.
THe cube is still sold today . ITS called the mini.
Good luck with your pre.
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Well, its getting scratched. How will the public react to that, long term? They'll need a completely different design for a glass screen, because for one, they'll need to recess it a bit for safety.
Um, the iphone didn't recess it's screen...also Apple comped new phones during launch for pretty much anything if you could get to an Apple store. Folks had dropped and shattered their phones and got new ones.
Not more than the iPhone hairline crack, or the whitebook hairline & palmrest cracks.
It was a given the Pre's hardware would have issues, your feigning surprise at it is disingenuous, especially on an Apple forum given Apple's track record on 1st-gen hardware casings.
While it would be inappropriate to discuss Palm's quality issues in disaparaging terms without including similar issues with Apple products, the real question is to what degree Palm (and Sprint) can a) absorb this problem with respect to costs in the short term, and b) how this issue, coupled with the iPhone 3G S' success will affect Palm's brand image (and consequently Sprint's bottom line) in the long term.
I'm not sure what Sprint's numbers are and how strapped Palm was before the Pre's release, but from what could be gleaned from the news and industry analysts, neither was doing very well. Some have even remarked that the Pre is supposed to "save" Sprint.
The good news is that the Pre, for all its growing pains, is shaping up to be a much better challenger to the iPhone than others, and all it really needs to get meaningful traction in this market is a solid software/hardware upgrade track along with a robust and usable app store. the question here is whether Palm can keep pace with iPhone development. The Pre still doesn't seem to have that "sweet spot" - that perfect balance between hardware and software, that the iPhone seems to have in spades.
and one free link to travel over there all by your self .
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teckstud
Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts
Cracked Screen - Carrying Pre front pant pocket
Be careful, don't let this happen to your Pre.
I really have no idea how it happened, possibly while I was sitting in a chair that had plastic arms - and my leg pressed against it.
Looks like a soft case is needed - or maybe make certain the screen side is against your leg and not facing out.
I guess I'll find out tomorrow if TEP was worth my investment or not....
The cracks start at the button and go all the way up the screen. There are twice as many cracks as you can see in the pictures.
Display still works fine, however touch is all messed up. Bottom third of the screen doesn't touch, and a spot on the middle of the screen keeps "touching" automatically every couple of seconds. Can't even answer the phone because I can't slide the green dot up.
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Wow, that's pretty brutal.
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Sorry. Bummer
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Damn, that sucks. Is the Pre really that fragile? Someone in another thread mention that his wife cracked her screen already.
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Originally Posted by teckstud
Glass is no better, my son cracked his head the first day he got it. Unfortunately no insurance, so he is living with a crack across the top of his screen
Well, I'd live with it probably, as you can only see the cracks if you look from the side. The problem is the touch is messed up, I assume as a result of the cracks - so the device is impossible to operate properly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by teckstud
wow same thing happen to my two wife's!!
Her pre work for couple hours until the cracks got longer then she starting crying lol
Did your wife know what caused the damage? Or was she suprised (like I was) that anything had even happened?
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Front pocket tighness cracked screens.
POLL BELOW
" No - still in good condition\t\t71.....\t 79.78%
Yes - but I dropped or bumped it\t\t2........\t2.25%
Yes - but I was careful with it\t\t16......\t17.98%[/SIZE]
so almost 20 percent cracked un usable pre phones
http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...ed-screen.html