Any idea why Apple did not bump the Mini? Do you think it will come in the next few weeks, or will they slip it into WMDC? (surely they have better announcements to make?) .....
Shame about there being no non-glossy option, that rules it out for me as a designer.
Australian/US prices (Both ex tax US$ @ A$ = conservative US $0.93.5. The A$ has reached US $0.95.6 last week which should make Australian prices 2.2% cheaper again)
Model / Aus Price / USA Price / Markup
20" 2.4Ghz / US$ 1,554.69 / US$ 1,199.00 / 29.7%
20" 2.4Ghz / US$ 1,943.61 / US$ 1,499.00 / 29.7%
24" 2.8Ghz / US$ 2,332.53 / US$ 1,799.00 / 29.7%*
24" 3.0Ghz / US$ 2,915.90 / US$ 1,999.00 / 45.9%
4 Gb RAM / US$ 291.68 / US$ 200.00 / 45.8%
750 Gb HD / US$ 145.84 / US$100.00 / 45.8%
1 Tb HD / US$ 359.75 / US$150.00 / 139.8% * Street price Ext HD US$ 289.75
W/L Mouse / US$ 29.17 / US$20.00 / 45.8%
W/l Keybd / US$ 38.89 / US$30.00 / 29.7%
Applecare / US$ 260.57 / US$169.00 / 54.2%
Interesting is the 2 tier pricing and the "Super Luxury Tax" Apple charges on certain extras such as the top speed, largest HD & Applecare. Are they trying to discourage Australian users from these models? I just got a 1.5 Tb WD My Book Pro II with FW 400, FW 800 & USB 2 & Raid for US$ 387.95 ex tax, a shade more than their "Upgrade" to a 1 Tb standard HD.
Long Live the Australian/USA Free Trade Agreement.
* The refurbished white non glossy 24" iMac 2.Ghz is looking a steal at US $1,199. A shame they are no longer available in Australia.
It does look like Apple has gotten the Montevina chips ahead of schedule and before everyone else. I was waiting for this to get an older iMac but I think I'll go with a new one since it's Montevina.
Just take the glass off the front. and you have matte finish.
I think that kind of makes it silly to put the glass on in the first place, worst of both worlds. You get the reflection of the glass and the diffused light too on the angles you don't have glare.
This, short of the uber Nehalem release of early '09 is the one for me.
I'm buying this. 8+ years. I've had enough wit the waiting.
It's got the psychological 3 gig.
And.
It's got the 512 meg card. Just shy of the GT's performance. I'll take that bet...
I guess 'heat' or 'cheapo' reasons came to the fore...re not the GT. But hey, the GS is offering twice + the bench of the Pro. So. No arguments there.
But...having looked at the benches...it's not a bad card at all. Well, in a 1 and a half inch closure. That aint too bad.
And a 24 inch screen. Take that away. - £400 and you've got a £900 PC. Dual core 3 gig. 512 megs gpu card. 2 gigs of ram and a 1/2 terra byte HD. That'll do. How much porn can you store on yer HD anyhow? :I
You'd be hard pressed to find a better deal at PC World...
Yep. As long as I can do my pre-vis and play a game of City of Heroes in Boot Camp...
The original poster's question was about kids who will be in elementary school over the next 5 years. My 6th grader is currently having a great time playing with Final Cut Express on our 2yr old iMac -- far beyond anything required by his school. I realize schools are going more multimedia, but I'm confident today's base iMac will handle anything required of elementary kids over the next 5yrs. So here's my bottom line: if money is no object, by all means get the fastest possible beast ($2199 for the 3.06GHz with all the extras). But the base model ($1199) will likely be MORE than enough for young kids for several years. In 4 years, you can then take that $1000 you saved (perhaps doubled or tripled if invested in AAPL!) and buy something that will be far more powerful than the maxed-out system you could buy right now.
(I realize I'm not talking about gaming issues, but the poster was asking about schoolwork. If you want to run the hottest games at the highest speeds, then you'll absolutely benefit from the maxed-out system.)
Agree in part.
One child is only 4 and the other 6. Going for two or even one high end for the oldest seems overkill. Doubt that they would appreciate the difference right now.
Even going for extra RAM is questionable. Remember this (as asked by NOFEER) was for school use, i.e., grades pre-school/1 to 3/5, not for gaming.
I would suggest getting one of the Britannica Encyclopedia Suites for the difference. It will have more value for a heck of a lot longer than will the two Macs together, and they will have something to read when the power fails.
The new memory upgrade is actually $200 to go from 2GB to 4GB. And it's 800 GHz memory instead of the previous generation's 667. That's not bad at all.
I like this upgrade a lot, and I'm glad I waited. It's going to be like a rocket compared to my 1.8GHz original iMac G5.
Yeah wow, I never would have noticed the new iMac announcement, what with Apple being so "quiet" about it. No mention of it anywhere on the Apple website.
YES THEY ARE. Intel is once again giving Apple special preference and giving them the chip not just before everyone else, but also before the official release date scheduled for next month. It's a good time to be a Mac user.
PS: Any assistance on the model number for the 2.66 GHz chip would be great.
PPS: Anyone still think Apple is going to dump Intel for P.A. Semi made PPCs?
YES THEY ARE. Intel is once again giving Apple special preference and giving them the chip not just before everyone else, but also before the official release date scheduled for next month. It's a good time to be a Mac user.
PS: Any assistance on the model number for the 2.66 GHz chip would be great.
PPS: Anyone still think Apple is going to dump Intel for P.A. Semi made PPCs?
lol, Intel is trying to court apple by giving them preferential treatment
The new memory upgrade is actually $200 to go from 2GB to 4GB. And it's 800 GHz memory instead of the previous generation's 667. That's not bad at all.
Actually, that's still way overpriced. You can get a full 4 GB of the exact same memory for under $100 elsewhere (and by the way it's 800 MHz, not GHz). Try checking the prices for 4 GB of 800 MHz DDR2 memory at Dealram. Never buy RAM or HD upgrades from Apple.
Shame about there being no non-glossy option, that rules it out for me as a designer.
Griffin or some other third party company should create a matching hood and anti-glare film for the iMac to reduce glare from lights and make it more usable by graphics professionals.
It looks like they aren't using the cheaper display anymore. They are claiming "Millions of colors at all resolutions" for both models.
Actually, that's still way overpriced. You can get a full 4 GB of the exact same memory for under $100 elsewhere (and by the way it's 800 MHz, not GHz). Try checking the prices for 4 GB of 800 MHz DDR2 memory at Dealram. Never buy RAM or HD upgrades from Apple.
That doesn't give you the price for the SODIMMS though.
I too thought the line at the bottom of the story was a bit silly:
Quote:
Apple is also now offering more reasonable pricing for iMac memory upgrades, with an upgrade from 1GB to 2GB costing $100, and an upgrade from 2GB to 4GB fetching just $300.
More reasonable being in terms of previous pricing and not in comparison to what you might be able to buy the same kind of memory from what might be the same supplier. As it is, the Apple upgrade price is still 3x that of buying the memory upgrade outright.
More reasonable being in terms of previous pricing and not in comparison to what you might be able to buy the same kind of memory from what might be the same supplier. As it is, the Apple upgrade price is still 3x that of buying the memory outright.
Fair enough but Apple is not just selling you the RAM they are installing and presumably testing it as well.
Not a big deal, especially if it is being done in the assembly line.
I have never, ever had Apple install either a Hard Drive, optical Drive or RAM. I try to picture the lazy/slow witted/gullible/fearful/overpaid users who think it is a good idea for Apple to install simple upgrades for them.
Yeah wow, I never would have noticed the new iMac announcement, what with Apple being so "quiet" about it. No mention of it anywhere on the Apple website.
That wasn't there when the new iMacs were posted to the web store. I think the delay was several hours.
Comments
Any news or speculation welcomed!
Australian/US prices (Both ex tax US$ @ A$ = conservative US $0.93.5. The A$ has reached US $0.95.6 last week which should make Australian prices 2.2% cheaper again)
Model / Aus Price / USA Price / Markup
20" 2.4Ghz / US$ 1,554.69 / US$ 1,199.00 / 29.7%
20" 2.4Ghz / US$ 1,943.61 / US$ 1,499.00 / 29.7%
24" 2.8Ghz / US$ 2,332.53 / US$ 1,799.00 / 29.7%*
24" 3.0Ghz / US$ 2,915.90 / US$ 1,999.00 / 45.9%
4 Gb RAM / US$ 291.68 / US$ 200.00 / 45.8%
750 Gb HD / US$ 145.84 / US$100.00 / 45.8%
1 Tb HD / US$ 359.75 / US$150.00 / 139.8% * Street price Ext HD US$ 289.75
W/L Mouse / US$ 29.17 / US$20.00 / 45.8%
W/l Keybd / US$ 38.89 / US$30.00 / 29.7%
Applecare / US$ 260.57 / US$169.00 / 54.2%
Interesting is the 2 tier pricing and the "Super Luxury Tax" Apple charges on certain extras such as the top speed, largest HD & Applecare. Are they trying to discourage Australian users from these models? I just got a 1.5 Tb WD My Book Pro II with FW 400, FW 800 & USB 2 & Raid for US$ 387.95 ex tax, a shade more than their "Upgrade" to a 1 Tb standard HD.
Long Live the Australian/USA Free Trade Agreement.
* The refurbished white non glossy 24" iMac 2.Ghz is looking a steal at US $1,199. A shame they are no longer available in Australia.
PS: Any help with confirmation and of the 2.66 GHz chip used would be great.
Just take the glass off the front. and you have matte finish.
I think that kind of makes it silly to put the glass on in the first place, worst of both worlds. You get the reflection of the glass and the diffused light too on the angles you don't have glare.
I'm buying this. 8+ years. I've had enough wit the waiting.
It's got the psychological 3 gig.
And.
It's got the 512 meg card. Just shy of the GT's performance. I'll take that bet...
I guess 'heat' or 'cheapo' reasons came to the fore...re not the GT. But hey, the GS is offering twice + the bench of the Pro. So. No arguments there.
But...having looked at the benches...it's not a bad card at all. Well, in a 1 and a half inch closure. That aint too bad.
And a 24 inch screen. Take that away. - £400 and you've got a £900 PC. Dual core 3 gig. 512 megs gpu card. 2 gigs of ram and a 1/2 terra byte HD. That'll do. How much porn can you store on yer HD anyhow? :I
You'd be hard pressed to find a better deal at PC World...
Yep. As long as I can do my pre-vis and play a game of City of Heroes in Boot Camp...
Yeah.
I'm off to Gordy's...
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The original poster's question was about kids who will be in elementary school over the next 5 years. My 6th grader is currently having a great time playing with Final Cut Express on our 2yr old iMac -- far beyond anything required by his school. I realize schools are going more multimedia, but I'm confident today's base iMac will handle anything required of elementary kids over the next 5yrs. So here's my bottom line: if money is no object, by all means get the fastest possible beast ($2199 for the 3.06GHz with all the extras). But the base model ($1199) will likely be MORE than enough for young kids for several years. In 4 years, you can then take that $1000 you saved (perhaps doubled or tripled if invested in AAPL!) and buy something that will be far more powerful than the maxed-out system you could buy right now.
(I realize I'm not talking about gaming issues, but the poster was asking about schoolwork. If you want to run the hottest games at the highest speeds, then you'll absolutely benefit from the maxed-out system.)
Agree in part.
One child is only 4 and the other 6. Going for two or even one high end for the oldest seems overkill. Doubt that they would appreciate the difference right now.
Even going for extra RAM is questionable. Remember this (as asked by NOFEER) was for school use, i.e., grades pre-school/1 to 3/5, not for gaming.
I would suggest getting one of the Britannica Encyclopedia Suites for the difference. It will have more value for a heck of a lot longer than will the two Macs together, and they will have something to read when the power fails.
I like this upgrade a lot, and I'm glad I waited. It's going to be like a rocket compared to my 1.8GHz original iMac G5.
So are these Montevina chips?
YES THEY ARE. Intel is once again giving Apple special preference and giving them the chip not just before everyone else, but also before the official release date scheduled for next month. It's a good time to be a Mac user.
PS: Any assistance on the model number for the 2.66 GHz chip would be great.
PPS: Anyone still think Apple is going to dump Intel for P.A. Semi made PPCs?
YES THEY ARE. Intel is once again giving Apple special preference and giving them the chip not just before everyone else, but also before the official release date scheduled for next month. It's a good time to be a Mac user.
PS: Any assistance on the model number for the 2.66 GHz chip would be great.
PPS: Anyone still think Apple is going to dump Intel for P.A. Semi made PPCs?
lol, Intel is trying to court apple by giving them preferential treatment
The new memory upgrade is actually $200 to go from 2GB to 4GB. And it's 800 GHz memory instead of the previous generation's 667. That's not bad at all.
Actually, that's still way overpriced. You can get a full 4 GB of the exact same memory for under $100 elsewhere (and by the way it's 800 MHz, not GHz). Try checking the prices for 4 GB of 800 MHz DDR2 memory at Dealram. Never buy RAM or HD upgrades from Apple.
Shame about there being no non-glossy option, that rules it out for me as a designer.
Griffin or some other third party company should create a matching hood and anti-glare film for the iMac to reduce glare from lights and make it more usable by graphics professionals.
It looks like they aren't using the cheaper display anymore. They are claiming "Millions of colors at all resolutions" for both models.
lol, Intel is trying to court apple by giving them preferential treatment
Maybe they are giving Apple pre-release chips so that Mac users can help them debug the chips?
Actually, that's still way overpriced. You can get a full 4 GB of the exact same memory for under $100 elsewhere (and by the way it's 800 MHz, not GHz). Try checking the prices for 4 GB of 800 MHz DDR2 memory at Dealram. Never buy RAM or HD upgrades from Apple.
That doesn't give you the price for the SODIMMS though.
I too thought the line at the bottom of the story was a bit silly:
Apple is also now offering more reasonable pricing for iMac memory upgrades, with an upgrade from 1GB to 2GB costing $100, and an upgrade from 2GB to 4GB fetching just $300.
More reasonable being in terms of previous pricing and not in comparison to what you might be able to buy the same kind of memory from what might be the same supplier. As it is, the Apple upgrade price is still 3x that of buying the memory upgrade outright.
lol, Intel is trying to court apple by giving them preferential treatment
Symbiotic relationship. Apple gets to feel special and Intel gets the free press associated with Apple's elite machines showcasing their new chips.
More reasonable being in terms of previous pricing and not in comparison to what you might be able to buy the same kind of memory from what might be the same supplier. As it is, the Apple upgrade price is still 3x that of buying the memory outright.
Fair enough but Apple is not just selling you the RAM they are installing and presumably testing it as well.
Not a big deal, especially if it is being done in the assembly line.
I have never, ever had Apple install either a Hard Drive, optical Drive or RAM. I try to picture the lazy/slow witted/gullible/fearful/overpaid users who think it is a good idea for Apple to install simple upgrades for them.
Yeah wow, I never would have noticed the new iMac announcement, what with Apple being so "quiet" about it. No mention of it anywhere on the Apple website.
That wasn't there when the new iMacs were posted to the web store. I think the delay was several hours.