Amazon has no trouble selling the Kindle DX for $489, the Apple tablet will do much more than the Kindle DX, so asking $999 or more for it seems reasonable to me.
Perhaps...But to me, 999 is 3 netbooks, with more functionality and presumably better specs, or 1 midrange laptop, or a laptop and a netbook, or 999 one dollar hookers...999 just won't do it for me.
For what its worth, the normal, non-DX kindle is 250.
Since a 32GB iPhone costs $699 and the lowest end MacBook costs $999, then you are okay paying $850 for it? At $850, you are only $150 from a full-function laptop. If this is your idea of "okay", then Apple has a great value proposition for you.
One of the things that we must keep in mind is that as long as there are 138,775* iPhone/iPod touch apps available and only a handful of them have been created for your computer, there is no 'full-functioning' computer.
It would appear that this new Apple device is a new paradigm in communication, i.e., in how we get our information. It won't do what you can do on your current computers, cell phones or PDAs. But what it will do, is open technology is such an intuitive manner that most of the world will more easily understand and appreciate.
Whatever the price will be, people, and a lot of them, will buy it. It won't be for everyone, particularly a lot here who's egos are so struck that they just won't buy an 'Apple'. It won't be a primary tool for the creative or business type to build their lives, but it will be their tool to expand their message.
And no matter how many may pan this new product, expect to see a lot of attempts to fool the naysayers as the copies and me-toos abound. And they too will succeed somewhat.
I don't think there is any doubt that wallets will open among the MDN crowd (my own included.) However, what remains to be seen is will wallets open with the masses outside of the MDN/AppleInsider/Tech Geek crowd..
Actually... the "non-tech no-geek" crowd will be the biggest consumer of this device. I've said before, "it's not for "us" (geeks and decade-long computer users)... but for "them" (the normal Windows/entertainment users that just can't deal with it's inherent problems)."
This is the device for people that don't want "complicated", to be able to use a computer.
I witnessed this first-hand today with my sister and my 17-month old nephew, and the new iPhone she got for X-mas.
My sister uses the iPhone like I wish I could get here to work with the Mac: fast, easy, and smiling the whole time... rather than consternation and sometimes frustration when not being able to do something as easily as she wishes.
As for my nephew... the same as the little 1-year old on YouTube... playing animal-sound games, viewing pictures, etc... he can't even talk in sentences yet(!), but can use a "computer" to entertain himself.
This device will define a whole new segment of the population... I just don't have a name for that yet. It surely won't be simply "computer-user"... since nobody thinks of the iPhone as a computer either.
BTW: subsidized or not... their WILL BE lines... Very. Long. Lines.
When you've paid $500 for a 40GB iPod a few years back, $700 for the tablet doesn't seem like all that much. Pricing the thing at $999 would be a mistake however. Correct me if I'm wrong, but just look at the MacBook Air. It's overpriced, underpowered, and doesn't have an optical drive. As a result, it didn't enjoy the same success of the MacBooks and MacBook Pros.
I said nearly two months prior it would be priced around $899 so not to castrate Macbook sales.
Actually... the "non-tech no-geek" crowd will be the biggest consumer of this device. I've said before, "it's not for "us" (geeks and decade-long computer users)... but for "them" (the normal Windows/entertainment users that just can't deal with it's inherent problems)."
This is the device for people that don't want "complicated", to be able to use a computer...
BTW: subsidized or not... their WILL BE lines... Very. Long. Lines.
I agree with this. Steve wants this device to a paradigm shifter like the iphone. 99% of folks didn't even imagine what we could do with a phone until the iPhone popped up. Steve wants the same thing to happen here. If it is, then the price is almost irrelevant at the start. Relativity to a macbook won't count if it does everything differently in common use cases that the macbook/netbook doesn't satisfy.
I think this is intended to be so entirely different to a laptop that it will set it's own price. For instance, this thing will:
1. sit on a coffee table or end table not a desk (plugged into a dock a lot to keep it juiced).
2. Family members will pick it up as if it were a magazine, to read any content (news/mag/book), view other media (TV show, youtube clip etc.) all while on the sofa, not in the office, at a dining table, in an uncomfortable chair. I know people use laptops on the sofa but it is neither comfortable nor natural to have 5lbs on their lap to do such "trivial" things, which it is not optimized to do.
3. While several people watch the game on the HDTV, someone else will be there but with headphones watching greys anatomy off iTunes or reading some Dan Brown epic or playing Tetris/GTA.
4. Or the slate will go off to the kitchen displaying a recipe in large font propped up in one of the many stand accessories that will proliferate for different uses. To scroll down, you just use a floury finger to move the screen - no gunk in the keyboard...
That is just home/family use. What about all the professional applications like in businesses, schools, hospitals, (patient notes, diagnostic tools, video-con with a consultant in another wing/hospital, etc.) none of which can be done out of hand right now. I can't even think about what the out of home/office (travel) uses might be (needing 3G) but that is a whole other set of cases too.
There will be stands for propping up like a book, like a little TV, to make it easier to hold for long reading, to prop up for limited typing, rubberized cases for water/food/dust resistance, holsters for holding it on your arm as you walk around (e.g. doing hospital rounds), etc.
Most sane people would not use a laptop for many/any of these things, some might use a netbook but those are not optimized for most of those uses and mostly rubbish.
It is likely to be able to do more than this but I would bet that it is not going to be viewed as an equivalent to a laptop but as a completely different and additional device. As the family tablet for a family that already has enough computers everywhere but the living/family room. I currently use my iphone for these uses but it is killing my eyes and giving me RSI from holding the little device for up to hours at a time. A tablet would be great and I would not consider its price vs. a laptop but in what it would do for me.
Of course it has to be insanely great and do all these things and more, but the iPhone/Touch already does much of this but is way too small for prolonged use. I have high hopes for this but expect a high price. Apple could care less if the cheapskates buy one at launch, only that the well heeled do and the cheapskates want one when it gets cheaper...
Oh, and it won't castrate Macbook sales. You won't do any serious productivity work on it, you can't use it for school (except for text books), etc. 2 largely different sets of use cases, many of which are complimentary (Macbook and textbook, Media Library and player, etc.)
You do realize that this is false information leaked on purpose so that everyone can be up in amrs about how it's going to cost $1000, and then when Apple gives it to us at $600, we'll all say "bless you bless you kind sir!"
Well, that's my theory anyway... we'll find out in a week
I think the misdirection may be in regards to it being a device with a 10-inch screen. That may be where we're headed but at this time, I don't see going that route as the next logical step.
What is being forgotten is that Apple needs to grow this segment methodically and, for the most part, has done exactly that. Bring out a pricey tablet that winds up not selling well and Apple takes a step back, not one forward. Continue the incremental evolution of the handheld that has brought us to the very capable, successful Touch, and you have a formula for success.
Naturally, the initial reaction to Apple merely updating the Touch with a larger screen, would be disappointment over Apple not taking a dramatic leap. But then tons of the revised Touch with a bigger screen would wind up in people's hands and no doubt resulting in even more satisfied customers. Going this route would make even more sense right now because the economy is not doing so well. Affordability matters at this time and a larger Touch would set the stage for the even bigger handheld, aka the tablet, that rumours have claimed is coming.
I have to admit that the sheer persistence and volume of rumours that Apple is about to unveil a 10-inch tablet makes it seem inevitable that such a device is going to be presented on Jan. 27. But it still strikes me as illogical that Apple would go that route at this time. On the other hand, illogical and electronics manufacturers have not exactly been strangers.
If you have to say that more than once to separate people, I think you need to look at your comparison or analogy.
Yes, that is possible. That's why I went on to explain my point more clearly. It doesn't make much sense for me to go back and edit my original post since it has already been quoted.
Only about 500** of which actually do something useful. Another 500 are flashlights.
**Exaggeration, but you get my drift.
Talk about exaggeration and from someone that doesn't own an iPhone, it must be nice to be armchair quarterback.
About half the 120 'flashlights' are rated by users as useful. Most of the other half haven't been reviewed.
For some, they are a god-send. As a owner, I wouldn't leave a flashlight off my iPhone, no matter how I configured it.
As a developer, it is obvious that many developers got their start by building simple apps first and going from there.
Like everyone else, I don't have time to use most of the apps that I have on my iPhone. But I do have certain sets that I load depending on my itinerary. My home set of apps differ from my business collage and when I travel oversees; my US/Canada, Asia or European GPS sets will prevail as needed.
Talk about exaggeration and from someone that doesn't own an iPhone, it must be nice to be armchair quarterback.
About half the 120 'flashlights' are rated by users as useful. Most of the other half haven't been reviewed.
For some, they are a god-send. As a owner, I wouldn't leave a flashlight off my iPhone, no matter how I configured it.
Where exactly did you pull that assumption from? In point of fact, I owned both an iPhone then later an iPod Touch for a while. I sold both when I realized I hardly used them, something I can't say about my Hackintosh netbook.
If you think a "flashlight" app is useful, you're nuts. No offense. But seeing as how it has a range of about one foot, I'd much rather have the 3w Cree flashlight I always keep in my pocket, which has a useful throw of about 50 feet.
Fact is, there may be a ton of apps for the iPhone, but there are a ton of near duplicates, and even developers have admitted that. Wasn't there a well-known developer who said that useful apps in the App Store are getting lost in a sea of fluff apps? And an awful lot of iPhone apps do simple things. Honestly, given the limited storage space, RAM, screen space, processing power and control scheme of iPhones, you will never see anything like a full Photoshop running on them, only some lightweight apps like redeye reduction, auto levels and the like.
Where exactly did you pull that assumption from? In point of fact, I owned both an iPhone then later an iPod Touch for a while. I sold both when I realized I hardly used them, something I can't say about my Hackintosh netbook.
If you think a "flashlight" app is useful, you're nuts. No offense. But seeing as how it has a range of about one foot, I'd much rather have the 3w Cree flashlight I always keep in my pocket, which has a useful throw of about 50 feet.
Fact is, there may be a ton of apps for the iPhone, but there are a ton of near duplicates, and even developers have admitted that. Wasn't there a well-known developer who said that useful apps in the App Store are getting lost in a sea of fluff apps? And an awful lot of iPhone apps do simple things. Honestly, given the limited storage space, RAM, screen space, processing power and control scheme of iPhones, you will never see anything like a full Photoshop running on them, only some lightweight apps like redeye reduction, auto levels and the like.
I said, "…someone that doesn't own an iPhone…" I guess my assumption was correct. As a matter of fact, it wasn't an assumption unless you lied in an earlier blog.
Now we find you don't even have an iPod touch and your claim of expertise is based on using a hackinstosh netbook. Are you now telling us that you have "a full Photoshop running on it?" BS.
As for a 'flashlight' app, I guess I don't need the power you obviously need to throw light on things. AH.
I said, "?someone that doesn't own an iPhone?" I guess my assumption was correct. As a matter of fact, it wasn't an assumption unless you lied in an earlier blog.
Now we find you don't even have an iPod touch and your claim of expertise is based on using a hackinstosh netbook. Are you now telling us that you have "a full Photoshop running on it?" BS.
As for a 'flashlight' app, I guess I don't need the power you obviously need to throw light on things. AH.
Let me get this straight. You're saying because I sold my iPhone and iPod Touch after my experiences with them left me wanting, I know nothing about them. Oooookay. I'm done with this silliness.
Let me get this straight. You're saying because I sold my iPhone and iPod Touch after my experiences with them left me wanting, I know nothing about them. Oooookay. I'm done with this silliness.
According to recent posts by this guy, he never ever had an iPhone, he would never buy an iPhone or he sold his iPhone.
Let me get this straight. You're saying because I sold my iPhone and iPod Touch after my experiences with them left me wanting, I know nothing about them. Oooookay. I'm done with this silliness.
He won't say yes, but I will gladly. You've probably never owned an iPhone maybe an iPod touch, but regardless, if you did and you found yourself "not using it"
then no, you never even owned one.
iPhones are life changing purchases. If you were unaffected, then you didn't use it properly. The iPhone does leave most users wanting. Wanting to use it more and more and more, and hoping for it to get even better with each software release.
The next thing you think of to bring up is hackbook, which is in itself hilarious.
He won't say yes, but I will gladly. You've probably never owned an iPhone maybe an iPod touch, but regardless, if you did and you found yourself "not using it"
then no, you never even owned one.
iPhones are life changing purchases. If you were unaffected, then you didn't use it properly. The iPhone does leave most users wanting. Wanting to use it more and more and more, and hoping for it to get even better with each software release.
The next thing you think of to bring up is hackbook, which is in itself hilarious.
It's a hacknetbook. Which is hilariously ridiculous.
iPhones are life changing purchases. If you were unaffected, then you didn't use it properly. The iPhone does leave most users wanting. Wanting to use it more and more and more, and hoping for it to get even better with each software release.
I haven't been following this closely, but had to jump in anyway.
I don't really agree. I mean - yes iPhones are a paradigm shift in what you can do, and I find it great. But for some people they simply don't care.
The beauty of Apple products is that Apple doesn't try to be all things to all people. They'd rather be an "Oh My God this is amazing" for half the population, than be a "hey that's pretty good" for everyone. The side effect of this is that half the population think it is amazing and can't understand why the other half doesn't. And there is some heated debate over whether a product is wonderful... which we will see in a couple of days!
So 50% of people love it. 25% could take it or leave it. and 25% would really rather something else. But I think that's a great attitude for Apple to take.
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Amazon has no trouble selling the Kindle DX for $489, the Apple tablet will do much more than the Kindle DX, so asking $999 or more for it seems reasonable to me.
Perhaps...But to me, 999 is 3 netbooks, with more functionality and presumably better specs, or 1 midrange laptop, or a laptop and a netbook, or 999 one dollar hookers...999 just won't do it for me.
For what its worth, the normal, non-DX kindle is 250.
Since a 32GB iPhone costs $699 and the lowest end MacBook costs $999, then you are okay paying $850 for it? At $850, you are only $150 from a full-function laptop. If this is your idea of "okay", then Apple has a great value proposition for you.
One of the things that we must keep in mind is that as long as there are 138,775* iPhone/iPod touch apps available and only a handful of them have been created for your computer, there is no 'full-functioning' computer.
It would appear that this new Apple device is a new paradigm in communication, i.e., in how we get our information. It won't do what you can do on your current computers, cell phones or PDAs. But what it will do, is open technology is such an intuitive manner that most of the world will more easily understand and appreciate.
Whatever the price will be, people, and a lot of them, will buy it. It won't be for everyone, particularly a lot here who's egos are so struck that they just won't buy an 'Apple'. It won't be a primary tool for the creative or business type to build their lives, but it will be their tool to expand their message.
And no matter how many may pan this new product, expect to see a lot of attempts to fool the naysayers as the copies and me-toos abound. And they too will succeed somewhat.
*http://www.macworld.com/appguide/index.html
I don't think there is any doubt that wallets will open among the MDN crowd (my own included.) However, what remains to be seen is will wallets open with the masses outside of the MDN/AppleInsider/Tech Geek crowd..
Actually... the "non-tech no-geek" crowd will be the biggest consumer of this device. I've said before, "it's not for "us" (geeks and decade-long computer users)... but for "them" (the normal Windows/entertainment users that just can't deal with it's inherent problems)."
This is the device for people that don't want "complicated", to be able to use a computer.
I witnessed this first-hand today with my sister and my 17-month old nephew, and the new iPhone she got for X-mas.
My sister uses the iPhone like I wish I could get here to work with the Mac: fast, easy, and smiling the whole time... rather than consternation and sometimes frustration when not being able to do something as easily as she wishes.
As for my nephew... the same as the little 1-year old on YouTube... playing animal-sound games, viewing pictures, etc... he can't even talk in sentences yet(!), but can use a "computer" to entertain himself.
This device will define a whole new segment of the population... I just don't have a name for that yet. It surely won't be simply "computer-user"... since nobody thinks of the iPhone as a computer either.
BTW: subsidized or not... their WILL BE lines... Very. Long. Lines.
When you've paid $500 for a 40GB iPod a few years back, $700 for the tablet doesn't seem like all that much. Pricing the thing at $999 would be a mistake however. Correct me if I'm wrong, but just look at the MacBook Air. It's overpriced, underpowered, and doesn't have an optical drive. As a result, it didn't enjoy the same success of the MacBooks and MacBook Pros.
I said nearly two months prior it would be priced around $899 so not to castrate Macbook sales.
Actually... the "non-tech no-geek" crowd will be the biggest consumer of this device. I've said before, "it's not for "us" (geeks and decade-long computer users)... but for "them" (the normal Windows/entertainment users that just can't deal with it's inherent problems)."
This is the device for people that don't want "complicated", to be able to use a computer...
BTW: subsidized or not... their WILL BE lines... Very. Long. Lines.
I agree with this. Steve wants this device to a paradigm shifter like the iphone. 99% of folks didn't even imagine what we could do with a phone until the iPhone popped up. Steve wants the same thing to happen here. If it is, then the price is almost irrelevant at the start. Relativity to a macbook won't count if it does everything differently in common use cases that the macbook/netbook doesn't satisfy.
I think this is intended to be so entirely different to a laptop that it will set it's own price. For instance, this thing will:
1. sit on a coffee table or end table not a desk (plugged into a dock a lot to keep it juiced).
2. Family members will pick it up as if it were a magazine, to read any content (news/mag/book), view other media (TV show, youtube clip etc.) all while on the sofa, not in the office, at a dining table, in an uncomfortable chair. I know people use laptops on the sofa but it is neither comfortable nor natural to have 5lbs on their lap to do such "trivial" things, which it is not optimized to do.
3. While several people watch the game on the HDTV, someone else will be there but with headphones watching greys anatomy off iTunes or reading some Dan Brown epic or playing Tetris/GTA.
4. Or the slate will go off to the kitchen displaying a recipe in large font propped up in one of the many stand accessories that will proliferate for different uses. To scroll down, you just use a floury finger to move the screen - no gunk in the keyboard...
That is just home/family use. What about all the professional applications like in businesses, schools, hospitals, (patient notes, diagnostic tools, video-con with a consultant in another wing/hospital, etc.) none of which can be done out of hand right now. I can't even think about what the out of home/office (travel) uses might be (needing 3G) but that is a whole other set of cases too.
There will be stands for propping up like a book, like a little TV, to make it easier to hold for long reading, to prop up for limited typing, rubberized cases for water/food/dust resistance, holsters for holding it on your arm as you walk around (e.g. doing hospital rounds), etc.
Most sane people would not use a laptop for many/any of these things, some might use a netbook but those are not optimized for most of those uses and mostly rubbish.
It is likely to be able to do more than this but I would bet that it is not going to be viewed as an equivalent to a laptop but as a completely different and additional device. As the family tablet for a family that already has enough computers everywhere but the living/family room. I currently use my iphone for these uses but it is killing my eyes and giving me RSI from holding the little device for up to hours at a time. A tablet would be great and I would not consider its price vs. a laptop but in what it would do for me.
Of course it has to be insanely great and do all these things and more, but the iPhone/Touch already does much of this but is way too small for prolonged use. I have high hopes for this but expect a high price. Apple could care less if the cheapskates buy one at launch, only that the well heeled do and the cheapskates want one when it gets cheaper...
Oh, and it won't castrate Macbook sales. You won't do any serious productivity work on it, you can't use it for school (except for text books), etc. 2 largely different sets of use cases, many of which are complimentary (Macbook and textbook, Media Library and player, etc.)
Again, my point on this was missed entirely..
If you have to say that more than once to separate people, I think you need to look at your comparison or analogy.
You do realize that this is false information leaked on purpose so that everyone can be up in amrs about how it's going to cost $1000, and then when Apple gives it to us at $600, we'll all say "bless you bless you kind sir!"
Well, that's my theory anyway... we'll find out in a week
I think the misdirection may be in regards to it being a device with a 10-inch screen. That may be where we're headed but at this time, I don't see going that route as the next logical step.
What is being forgotten is that Apple needs to grow this segment methodically and, for the most part, has done exactly that. Bring out a pricey tablet that winds up not selling well and Apple takes a step back, not one forward. Continue the incremental evolution of the handheld that has brought us to the very capable, successful Touch, and you have a formula for success.
Naturally, the initial reaction to Apple merely updating the Touch with a larger screen, would be disappointment over Apple not taking a dramatic leap. But then tons of the revised Touch with a bigger screen would wind up in people's hands and no doubt resulting in even more satisfied customers. Going this route would make even more sense right now because the economy is not doing so well. Affordability matters at this time and a larger Touch would set the stage for the even bigger handheld, aka the tablet, that rumours have claimed is coming.
I have to admit that the sheer persistence and volume of rumours that Apple is about to unveil a 10-inch tablet makes it seem inevitable that such a device is going to be presented on Jan. 27. But it still strikes me as illogical that Apple would go that route at this time. On the other hand, illogical and electronics manufacturers have not exactly been strangers.
If you have to say that more than once to separate people, I think you need to look at your comparison or analogy.
Yes, that is possible. That's why I went on to explain my point more clearly. It doesn't make much sense for me to go back and edit my original post since it has already been quoted.
One of the things that we must keep in mind is that as long as there are 138,775* iPhone/iPod touch apps available
Only about 500** of which actually do something useful. Another 500 are flashlights.
**Exaggeration, but you get my drift.
No way I'd buy at $1k. At that price point, you're looking at Newton, take 3.
For those wanting the full desktop OS X on the tablet, wouldn't that require all current and future OS X apps to be recompiled for ARM?
Not if Apple had stayed with Intel architecture by selecting Moorestown instead of ARM architecture.
$700 = 965 days
$700 to a $1000 dollar machine is less than ONE DOLLAR A DAy
or 1/2 of a starbuck coffee
its the WIFIi charges which will kill us
hurry apple hurry with your server farms
peace
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Only about 500** of which actually do something useful. Another 500 are flashlights.
**Exaggeration, but you get my drift.
Talk about exaggeration and from someone that doesn't own an iPhone, it must be nice to be armchair quarterback.
About half the 120 'flashlights' are rated by users as useful. Most of the other half haven't been reviewed.
For some, they are a god-send. As a owner, I wouldn't leave a flashlight off my iPhone, no matter how I configured it.
As a developer, it is obvious that many developers got their start by building simple apps first and going from there.
Like everyone else, I don't have time to use most of the apps that I have on my iPhone. But I do have certain sets that I load depending on my itinerary. My home set of apps differ from my business collage and when I travel oversees; my US/Canada, Asia or European GPS sets will prevail as needed.
Talk about exaggeration and from someone that doesn't own an iPhone, it must be nice to be armchair quarterback.
About half the 120 'flashlights' are rated by users as useful. Most of the other half haven't been reviewed.
For some, they are a god-send. As a owner, I wouldn't leave a flashlight off my iPhone, no matter how I configured it.
Where exactly did you pull that assumption from? In point of fact, I owned both an iPhone then later an iPod Touch for a while. I sold both when I realized I hardly used them, something I can't say about my Hackintosh netbook.
If you think a "flashlight" app is useful, you're nuts. No offense. But seeing as how it has a range of about one foot, I'd much rather have the 3w Cree flashlight I always keep in my pocket, which has a useful throw of about 50 feet.
Fact is, there may be a ton of apps for the iPhone, but there are a ton of near duplicates, and even developers have admitted that. Wasn't there a well-known developer who said that useful apps in the App Store are getting lost in a sea of fluff apps? And an awful lot of iPhone apps do simple things. Honestly, given the limited storage space, RAM, screen space, processing power and control scheme of iPhones, you will never see anything like a full Photoshop running on them, only some lightweight apps like redeye reduction, auto levels and the like.
Where exactly did you pull that assumption from? In point of fact, I owned both an iPhone then later an iPod Touch for a while. I sold both when I realized I hardly used them, something I can't say about my Hackintosh netbook.
If you think a "flashlight" app is useful, you're nuts. No offense. But seeing as how it has a range of about one foot, I'd much rather have the 3w Cree flashlight I always keep in my pocket, which has a useful throw of about 50 feet.
Fact is, there may be a ton of apps for the iPhone, but there are a ton of near duplicates, and even developers have admitted that. Wasn't there a well-known developer who said that useful apps in the App Store are getting lost in a sea of fluff apps? And an awful lot of iPhone apps do simple things. Honestly, given the limited storage space, RAM, screen space, processing power and control scheme of iPhones, you will never see anything like a full Photoshop running on them, only some lightweight apps like redeye reduction, auto levels and the like.
I said, "…someone that doesn't own an iPhone…" I guess my assumption was correct. As a matter of fact, it wasn't an assumption unless you lied in an earlier blog.
Now we find you don't even have an iPod touch and your claim of expertise is based on using a hackinstosh netbook. Are you now telling us that you have "a full Photoshop running on it?" BS.
As for a 'flashlight' app, I guess I don't need the power you obviously need to throw light on things. AH.
I said, "?someone that doesn't own an iPhone?" I guess my assumption was correct. As a matter of fact, it wasn't an assumption unless you lied in an earlier blog.
Now we find you don't even have an iPod touch and your claim of expertise is based on using a hackinstosh netbook. Are you now telling us that you have "a full Photoshop running on it?" BS.
As for a 'flashlight' app, I guess I don't need the power you obviously need to throw light on things. AH.
Let me get this straight. You're saying because I sold my iPhone and iPod Touch after my experiences with them left me wanting, I know nothing about them. Oooookay. I'm done with this silliness.
Let me get this straight. You're saying because I sold my iPhone and iPod Touch after my experiences with them left me wanting, I know nothing about them. Oooookay. I'm done with this silliness.
According to recent posts by this guy, he never ever had an iPhone, he would never buy an iPhone or he sold his iPhone.
Only about 500** of which actually do something useful. Another 500 are flashlights.
**Exaggeration, but you get my drift.
No way I'd buy at $1k. At that price point, you're looking at Newton, take 3.
Not if Apple had stayed with Intel architecture by selecting Moorestown instead of ARM architecture.
By that exaggeration, Android has probably 10 apps worth a crap.
Let me get this straight. You're saying because I sold my iPhone and iPod Touch after my experiences with them left me wanting, I know nothing about them. Oooookay. I'm done with this silliness.
He won't say yes, but I will gladly. You've probably never owned an iPhone maybe an iPod touch, but regardless, if you did and you found yourself "not using it"
then no, you never even owned one.
iPhones are life changing purchases. If you were unaffected, then you didn't use it properly. The iPhone does leave most users wanting. Wanting to use it more and more and more, and hoping for it to get even better with each software release.
The next thing you think of to bring up is hackbook, which is in itself hilarious.
He won't say yes, but I will gladly. You've probably never owned an iPhone maybe an iPod touch, but regardless, if you did and you found yourself "not using it"
then no, you never even owned one.
iPhones are life changing purchases. If you were unaffected, then you didn't use it properly. The iPhone does leave most users wanting. Wanting to use it more and more and more, and hoping for it to get even better with each software release.
The next thing you think of to bring up is hackbook, which is in itself hilarious.
It's a hacknetbook. Which is hilariously ridiculous.
According to recent posts by this guy, he never ever had an iPhone, he would never buy an iPhone or he sold his iPhone.
Either quote such a post where I wrote I never owned an iPhone or iPod Touch or STFU. Bolding your entire post doesn't make it any more true.
iPhones are life changing purchases. If you were unaffected, then you didn't use it properly. The iPhone does leave most users wanting. Wanting to use it more and more and more, and hoping for it to get even better with each software release.
I haven't been following this closely, but had to jump in anyway.
I don't really agree. I mean - yes iPhones are a paradigm shift in what you can do, and I find it great. But for some people they simply don't care.
The beauty of Apple products is that Apple doesn't try to be all things to all people. They'd rather be an "Oh My God this is amazing" for half the population, than be a "hey that's pretty good" for everyone. The side effect of this is that half the population think it is amazing and can't understand why the other half doesn't. And there is some heated debate over whether a product is wonderful... which we will see in a couple of days!
So 50% of people love it. 25% could take it or leave it. and 25% would really rather something else. But I think that's a great attitude for Apple to take.