...Planning to sell 10 shares of the company (to allow for capital gains taxes and some accessories), and my order for two 64GB w/3G is pretty much all set! !
Selling AAPL stock at a profit, then use profit to buy AAPL products!
I doubt Apple will limit how much money you can send to them.
they might. if they want to spread the wealth, which is not totally crazy on their part. Say 2 per customer/address. at least online. reserving for instore might be a little higher.
especially if the rumors of limited stock are even close to true.
I am a technician/writer/designer/artist myself so I understand the creative process well. I am looking forward to getting a hold of one of these iPads just to play around with, but I also hope it will be useful.
My only quibble with the design of it, is the disappointingly large bezel which likely won't allow for thumb-typing (crucial to my intended uses), and is I feel a sort of sop towards the lower end users who might inadvertently pick it up wrong and open an app by mistake. It's also a bit big for me as I have great eyesight.
My ideal iPad would be halfway between this and the iPhone in size, with a bezel designed more like the iPhone than the iPad. That way it's more easily stowed in a purse or big pocket instead of having to carry an extra bag, and is still easily big enough to read and (more importantly), the perfect size to thumb type on like the iPhone.
I am constantly surprised that Apple makes all of it's products the same size or only makes one size of each type given the fact that humans come in sizes ranging from 1 to 2.5 metres tall and hand sizes range wildly. I'd like to see them manufacture two or three sizes of all the iProducts and pay much more attention to the ergonomics, but this is something Apple has historically never been very good at. Probably because it destroys the impression of the product as being "perfect" if one size doesn't fit all or one ergonomic decision isn't perceived as right for everyone.
Sounds like you're a jack of all trades and a master of nothing- especially Apple design. Apple doesn't design products like shoe sizes- who does? and the thought that you would even think they should is more than disturbing.
This kind of makes me wonder what all that junk about "sign up to be notified when it's available for order" was about though.
does it really matter if you get that email tomorrow since the orders don't start for a week. all you need to know is the start date early enough to do it as quickly that day as you can so you will be guaranteed release day delivery
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Meh. The 'Pad falls down in exactly the areas for which I would most want a tablet.
well the guy that got your place in line will be happy. cause it fits his needs and he got the last one in the size he wanted (rather than being one too late).
While the Wi-Fi model will be the only available at first, the 3G-capable iPad is expected to arrive in late April. In addition, all versions of the hardware will be available in the U.K., Canada, France, Germany, Australia, Italy, Japan, Span and Switzerland in late April.
Apple's international websites have just been updated... Apart from the countries listed above, all availability information has been taken out from the rest of the world... No more Hong Kong iPad late March, not even April. I guess I should lower my expectations and prepare myself to wait until the 2nd semester.
Apple's international websites have just been updated... Apart from the countries listed above, all availability information has been taken out from the rest of the world... No more Hong Kong iPad late March, not even April. I guess I should lower my expectations and prepare myself to wait until the 2nd semester.
Are other Apple products distributed to most other countries at the same time, or is there a stepping method that they usually follow?
The US 3G model is unlocked, nothing specific about carriers and locked vs. unlocked has been said for other countries.
well some countries don't allow sim locks. so yes for those.
as for the rest, I suspect yes. it is likely a pain dealing with making all the various iphone setups. unlock the ipad and it doesn't matter what box you send to where.
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AAPL got a big boost from Cramer last night as well (tons of people still listen to him - go figure)... that, and the iPad announcement= up.
general market improvement, the date announcement and perhaps the demo by Penguin. but in the end, as long is it is going up that's good. this gal still has a few shares bought at $70. kaching
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Also I read a lot of books, but is it really that important to buy the latest best seller while sitting on the bus when you know you can get it the next time you are home or walk through a WiFi hotspot anyway?
My daily bus runs down a major street in an area of LA that decided last year to put up city wide free wifi. a block after I get on I"m online and running for about 2 miles. very nice
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The only way we would see a price drop though is if it doesn't sell well enough and Apple thinks they have enough margin to lower the price.
I don't see the wifi only dropping. but the 3g perhaps.
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Originally Posted by Jerseymac
I might have uses for the iPad, but if I can't choose my data provider, then it's no sale for me. Sorry Steve. I love ya, but you can't talk me into being AT&T's customer again.
it's unlocked. all T-Mobile has to do is start printing microSims and you've got another choice. and I'll be that they have and it will be good to go by early summer
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Good luck with that. Your free TV shows have a bullseye painted on them, if you haven't heard.
a lot of folks don't mind. let Hulu charge if they take the ads off. if we have to pay and it's the same schtick, forget it.
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Originally Posted by psay101
Not sure I will purchase an iPad until they resolve the Flash issue.
And by THEY you mean Adobe. Because that's the issue. Crappy software they cobbled together and refuse to fix.
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Do you think buying an Ipad on apple.com and put a Canadian delivery address would work?
Nope. The site likely doesn't even accept foreign addresses. but if it does you can bet it will be cancelled within the hour
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Originally Posted by MeCourious
Then day2 we get to see all the new iPad apps available.
i disagree with the day 2. the majors will have it ready on release day. if not sooner.
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Originally Posted by solipsism
So will Apple have demo units in stores as of March 12th to help pull in more pre-release sales?
I wouldn't be surprised. given all the "starting march 10th rumors". i bet that someone saw an internal notice that units would start arriving on the 10th (for an after hours set up on the 11th to unveil on the 12th) and assumed they were training units or some such.
although in a way they are. the staff will be playing with them also. just out on the floor with the customers.
April 3 should be an interesting day. The usual lines around Apple stores. News organizations reporting on the frenzy. First person accounts on what the early adopters thought of it. The rush of the naysayers to try and stifle the positive press Apple will get. It should be an exciting Saturday.
Then day2 we get to see all the new iPad apps available. Thats when things will really take off. The new WSJ app. The different approaches taken by the early magazine producers to show off the device. The first game that sells a million dollars worth of iPad games. I'm definitely looking forward to that first week of the iPad. We live in exciting times.
With the WiFi+3G hardware being released in Canada, which Canadian network will support it? Does Rogers or Bell / Telus support the Micro SIM hardware?
I haven't seen any announcements from them on supporting the iPad 3G.
it's unlocked. all T-Mobile has to do is start printing microSims and you've got another choice. and I'll be that they have and it will be good to go by early summer
One major caveat. While it's unlocked T-Mobile USA's 3G spectrum is atypical and not an included frequency on the iPad. You'll be able to get GPRS and EDGE data, but not 3G, which pretty much makes the reason to lock anything to AT&T pointless.
Plus, you can cut a microSIM with scissors. The data connect is the same as the regular SIM cards.
PS: I really hate all current SIM technology. It take up a considerable amount of space while having one function that requires much less data storage than the space would indicate. I suggest a very simple screw SIM with the flat bottom of the plastic screw contain the very simple metal contacts. Below is an image of the current SIM space taking up a huge portion of the current iPhone (I'm sure they'll be using the microSIM in the next iPhone but is it enough? Can't we do better?
I realize you are being purposefully obtuse to make your point but
1) We have already seen movies on the iPad in the various demos and they look pretty good/large even with the letterboxing. At the distances you or I will be watching from it is patently fine (~2ft). The only HD anyone should worry about is its output to a device where it matters (HDTV etc.) which I believe it can do full 720p
2) As a multipurpose device its aspect ratio is designed for other uses too - books - better in the paper 4x3 ratio, web pages also better
3) Most netbooks (the unnatural competition) have 1024x600 - some of the worst screens I have ever seen and an absolutely horrific ratio for looking at anything except a widescreen movie
With the WiFi+3G hardware being released in Canada, which Canadian network will support it? Does Rogers or Bell / Telus support the Micro SIM hardware?
I haven't seen any announcements from them on supporting the iPad 3G.
Order column by 'Technology', then eliminate any that don't list GSM or HSPA. If it's just GSM then it's likely only '2G', assuming the info is accurate. If it lists HSPA then you'll get '3G', assuming the info is accurate. You'll also have to make sure the frequencies are supported, just to be sure.
Are other Apple products distributed to most other countries at the same time, or is there a stepping method that they usually follow?
I guess they have some stepping method as you said. In Brazil there was a time when we had to wait for more than 6 months for the updated products or new releases to arrive. Things have greatly improved over the last couple of years, though. They've finally launched their local Online Apple Store this year (had to use resellers before, as there's also no Apple Retail Store), and now it never takes more than a month for being up-to-date. For reference, the 27" iMacs have a 1-month delivery delay here now, just as they've become 24h at the US. That's acceptable.
But other places like Hong Kong (where I'll be from late April on... \), Korea, most european countries other than the ones cited and even Mexico usually get new products and updates no more than a week later than the US release date. This means the iPad is another story... They either chose to only test demand at a few markets first, or they really had production issues. As was stated before, even in Brazil the iPad had a late March announcement, and now all information is gone, which makes me think it's the second.
Oh, well... it took an year for the iPhone to come to Brazil, or Hong Kong for that matter. So I guess I'll have to do the same I did in 2007: go to the US and get it. Only this time I won't have to jailbreak and unlock!
Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if teckstud was a teabagger (in the political meaning of the word), even though his grammar makes me suspect he is an ESL person who would have nothing in common with the predominantly white grievances of that group.
I am a technician/writer/designer/artist myself so I understand the creative process well. I am looking forward to getting a hold of one of these iPads just to play around with, but I also hope it will be useful.
My only quibble with the design of it, is the disappointingly large bezel which likely won't allow for thumb-typing (crucial to my intended uses), and is I feel a sort of sop towards the lower end users who might inadvertently pick it up wrong and open an app by mistake. It's also a bit big for me as I have great eyesight.
My ideal iPad would be halfway between this and the iPhone in size, with a bezel designed more like the iPhone than the iPad. That way it's more easily stowed in a purse or big pocket instead of having to carry an extra bag, and is still easily big enough to read and (more importantly), the perfect size to thumb type on like the iPhone.
I am constantly surprised that Apple makes all of it's products the same size or only makes one size of each type given the fact that humans come in sizes ranging from 1 to 2.5 metres tall and hand sizes range wildly. I'd like to see them manufacture two or three sizes of all the iProducts and pay much more attention to the ergonomics, but this is something Apple has historically never been very good at. Probably because it destroys the impression of the product as being "perfect" if one size doesn't fit all or one ergonomic decision isn't perceived as right for everyone.
While you personal opinions are your own, the bezel thing has to have been designed for the averages - average users from their research - non-techies for whom thumb typing is an alien skill, who would constantly foul the screen with their fingers while holding it etc.
Apple pays more attention to ergonomics than most companies but also tempers that with aesthetics. The also realize that it leaves a massive market for cases/holders etc. which will drive a supportive eco-system for the iPad.
Overall - there is not so much diversity in the middle 80% of humanity that making 3 versions makes any sense economically or for marketing. I could easily imaging people will buy the one they like the look of (smaller bezel), then hate the screen fouling, return it etc. Thumb-typing freaks/geeks like you or me will never drive an Apple design decision and that is as it should be. The bell curve of humanity drives the optimal size choices more than most things.
Anyway, we have no idea how good the virtual keyboard will be - the demos make it look quite good.
I am constantly surprised that Apple makes all of it's products the same size or only makes one size of each type given the fact that humans come in sizes ranging from 1 to 2.5 metres tall and hand sizes range wildly. I'd like to see them manufacture two or three sizes of all the iProducts and pay much more attention to the ergonomics, but this is something Apple has historically never been very good at.
It's not that they are "not good" at it. In-fact it's their self control to NOT release a barrage of varying devices that makes Apple what they are.
There are a few good reason for Apple's design philosophies, but one of the main ones is that with multiple sizes comes a headache of software testing, not just for Apple but for third party developers. I spent all this morning checking the compatibility with Apples 'limited' range of devices, I would hate to think what it's like to dev for a platform such as Android.
Standardisation of parts = cheap/more reliable products.
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...Planning to sell 10 shares of the company (to allow for capital gains taxes and some accessories), and my order for two 64GB w/3G is pretty much all set!
Selling AAPL stock at a profit, then use profit to buy AAPL products!
Dude, TEACH ME.
I doubt Apple will limit how much money you can send to them.
they might. if they want to spread the wealth, which is not totally crazy on their part. Say 2 per customer/address. at least online. reserving for instore might be a little higher.
especially if the rumors of limited stock are even close to true.
we will see on march 12
Do you think buying an Ipad on apple.com and put a Canadian delivery address would work?
no i don't.
I am a technician/writer/designer/artist myself so I understand the creative process well. I am looking forward to getting a hold of one of these iPads just to play around with, but I also hope it will be useful.
My only quibble with the design of it, is the disappointingly large bezel which likely won't allow for thumb-typing (crucial to my intended uses), and is I feel a sort of sop towards the lower end users who might inadvertently pick it up wrong and open an app by mistake. It's also a bit big for me as I have great eyesight.
My ideal iPad would be halfway between this and the iPhone in size, with a bezel designed more like the iPhone than the iPad. That way it's more easily stowed in a purse or big pocket instead of having to carry an extra bag, and is still easily big enough to read and (more importantly), the perfect size to thumb type on like the iPhone.
I am constantly surprised that Apple makes all of it's products the same size or only makes one size of each type given the fact that humans come in sizes ranging from 1 to 2.5 metres tall and hand sizes range wildly. I'd like to see them manufacture two or three sizes of all the iProducts and pay much more attention to the ergonomics, but this is something Apple has historically never been very good at. Probably because it destroys the impression of the product as being "perfect" if one size doesn't fit all or one ergonomic decision isn't perceived as right for everyone.
Sounds like you're a jack of all trades and a master of nothing- especially Apple design. Apple doesn't design products like shoe sizes- who does? and the thought that you would even think they should is more than disturbing.
This kind of makes me wonder what all that junk about "sign up to be notified when it's available for order" was about though.
does it really matter if you get that email tomorrow since the orders don't start for a week. all you need to know is the start date early enough to do it as quickly that day as you can so you will be guaranteed release day delivery
Meh. The 'Pad falls down in exactly the areas for which I would most want a tablet.
well the guy that got your place in line will be happy. cause it fits his needs and he got the last one in the size he wanted (rather than being one too late).
You both have fun
While the Wi-Fi model will be the only available at first, the 3G-capable iPad is expected to arrive in late April. In addition, all versions of the hardware will be available in the U.K., Canada, France, Germany, Australia, Italy, Japan, Span and Switzerland in late April.
Apple's international websites have just been updated... Apart from the countries listed above, all availability information has been taken out from the rest of the world... No more Hong Kong iPad late March, not even April. I guess I should lower my expectations and prepare myself to wait until the 2nd semester.
Apple's international websites have just been updated... Apart from the countries listed above, all availability information has been taken out from the rest of the world... No more Hong Kong iPad late March, not even April. I guess I should lower my expectations and prepare myself to wait until the 2nd semester.
Are other Apple products distributed to most other countries at the same time, or is there a stepping method that they usually follow?
The US 3G model is unlocked, nothing specific about carriers and locked vs. unlocked has been said for other countries.
well some countries don't allow sim locks. so yes for those.
as for the rest, I suspect yes. it is likely a pain dealing with making all the various iphone setups. unlock the ipad and it doesn't matter what box you send to where.
AAPL got a big boost from Cramer last night as well (tons of people still listen to him - go figure)... that, and the iPad announcement= up.
general market improvement, the date announcement and perhaps the demo by Penguin. but in the end, as long is it is going up that's good. this gal still has a few shares bought at $70. kaching
Also I read a lot of books, but is it really that important to buy the latest best seller while sitting on the bus when you know you can get it the next time you are home or walk through a WiFi hotspot anyway?
My daily bus runs down a major street in an area of LA that decided last year to put up city wide free wifi. a block after I get on I"m online and running for about 2 miles. very nice
The only way we would see a price drop though is if it doesn't sell well enough and Apple thinks they have enough margin to lower the price.
I don't see the wifi only dropping. but the 3g perhaps.
I might have uses for the iPad, but if I can't choose my data provider, then it's no sale for me. Sorry Steve. I love ya, but you can't talk me into being AT&T's customer again.
it's unlocked. all T-Mobile has to do is start printing microSims and you've got another choice. and I'll be that they have and it will be good to go by early summer
Good luck with that. Your free TV shows have a bullseye painted on them, if you haven't heard.
a lot of folks don't mind. let Hulu charge if they take the ads off. if we have to pay and it's the same schtick, forget it.
And by THEY you mean Adobe. Because that's the issue. Crappy software they cobbled together and refuse to fix.
Do you think buying an Ipad on apple.com and put a Canadian delivery address would work?
Nope. The site likely doesn't even accept foreign addresses. but if it does you can bet it will be cancelled within the hour
Then day2 we get to see all the new iPad apps available.
i disagree with the day 2. the majors will have it ready on release day. if not sooner.
So will Apple have demo units in stores as of March 12th to help pull in more pre-release sales?
I wouldn't be surprised. given all the "starting march 10th rumors". i bet that someone saw an internal notice that units would start arriving on the 10th (for an after hours set up on the 11th to unveil on the 12th) and assumed they were training units or some such.
although in a way they are. the staff will be playing with them also. just out on the floor with the customers.
April 3 should be an interesting day. The usual lines around Apple stores. News organizations reporting on the frenzy. First person accounts on what the early adopters thought of it. The rush of the naysayers to try and stifle the positive press Apple will get. It should be an exciting Saturday.
Then day2 we get to see all the new iPad apps available. Thats when things will really take off. The new WSJ app. The different approaches taken by the early magazine producers to show off the device. The first game that sells a million dollars worth of iPad games. I'm definitely looking forward to that first week of the iPad. We live in exciting times.
can't wait! i'm getting 2 iPads myself.
I haven't seen any announcements from them on supporting the iPad 3G.
it's unlocked. all T-Mobile has to do is start printing microSims and you've got another choice. and I'll be that they have and it will be good to go by early summer
One major caveat. While it's unlocked T-Mobile USA's 3G spectrum is atypical and not an included frequency on the iPad. You'll be able to get GPRS and EDGE data, but not 3G, which pretty much makes the reason to lock anything to AT&T pointless.
Plus, you can cut a microSIM with scissors. The data connect is the same as the regular SIM cards.
PS: I really hate all current SIM technology. It take up a considerable amount of space while having one function that requires much less data storage than the space would indicate. I suggest a very simple screw SIM with the flat bottom of the plastic screw contain the very simple metal contacts. Below is an image of the current SIM space taking up a huge portion of the current iPhone (I'm sure they'll be using the microSIM in the next iPhone but is it enough? Can't we do better?
1280x720, yes. 1024x768 doesn't cut it.
I realize you are being purposefully obtuse to make your point but
1) We have already seen movies on the iPad in the various demos and they look pretty good/large even with the letterboxing. At the distances you or I will be watching from it is patently fine (~2ft). The only HD anyone should worry about is its output to a device where it matters (HDTV etc.) which I believe it can do full 720p
2) As a multipurpose device its aspect ratio is designed for other uses too - books - better in the paper 4x3 ratio, web pages also better
3) Most netbooks (the unnatural competition) have 1024x600 - some of the worst screens I have ever seen and an absolutely horrific ratio for looking at anything except a widescreen movie
Netbooks FTF
With the WiFi+3G hardware being released in Canada, which Canadian network will support it? Does Rogers or Bell / Telus support the Micro SIM hardware?
I haven't seen any announcements from them on supporting the iPad 3G.
Order column by 'Technology', then eliminate any that don't list GSM or HSPA. If it's just GSM then it's likely only '2G', assuming the info is accurate. If it lists HSPA then you'll get '3G', assuming the info is accurate. You'll also have to make sure the frequencies are supported, just to be sure.
Are other Apple products distributed to most other countries at the same time, or is there a stepping method that they usually follow?
I guess they have some stepping method as you said. In Brazil there was a time when we had to wait for more than 6 months for the updated products or new releases to arrive. Things have greatly improved over the last couple of years, though. They've finally launched their local Online Apple Store this year (had to use resellers before, as there's also no Apple Retail Store), and now it never takes more than a month for being up-to-date. For reference, the 27" iMacs have a 1-month delivery delay here now, just as they've become 24h at the US. That's acceptable.
But other places like Hong Kong (where I'll be from late April on...
Oh, well... it took an year for the iPhone to come to Brazil, or Hong Kong for that matter. So I guess I'll have to do the same I did in 2007: go to the US and get it. Only this time I won't have to jailbreak and unlock!
Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if teckstud was a teabagger (in the political meaning of the word), even though his grammar makes me suspect he is an ESL person who would have nothing in common with the predominantly white grievances of that group.
I am a technician/writer/designer/artist myself so I understand the creative process well. I am looking forward to getting a hold of one of these iPads just to play around with, but I also hope it will be useful.
My only quibble with the design of it, is the disappointingly large bezel which likely won't allow for thumb-typing (crucial to my intended uses), and is I feel a sort of sop towards the lower end users who might inadvertently pick it up wrong and open an app by mistake. It's also a bit big for me as I have great eyesight.
My ideal iPad would be halfway between this and the iPhone in size, with a bezel designed more like the iPhone than the iPad. That way it's more easily stowed in a purse or big pocket instead of having to carry an extra bag, and is still easily big enough to read and (more importantly), the perfect size to thumb type on like the iPhone.
I am constantly surprised that Apple makes all of it's products the same size or only makes one size of each type given the fact that humans come in sizes ranging from 1 to 2.5 metres tall and hand sizes range wildly. I'd like to see them manufacture two or three sizes of all the iProducts and pay much more attention to the ergonomics, but this is something Apple has historically never been very good at. Probably because it destroys the impression of the product as being "perfect" if one size doesn't fit all or one ergonomic decision isn't perceived as right for everyone.
While you personal opinions are your own, the bezel thing has to have been designed for the averages - average users from their research - non-techies for whom thumb typing is an alien skill, who would constantly foul the screen with their fingers while holding it etc.
Apple pays more attention to ergonomics than most companies but also tempers that with aesthetics. The also realize that it leaves a massive market for cases/holders etc. which will drive a supportive eco-system for the iPad.
Overall - there is not so much diversity in the middle 80% of humanity that making 3 versions makes any sense economically or for marketing. I could easily imaging people will buy the one they like the look of (smaller bezel), then hate the screen fouling, return it etc. Thumb-typing freaks/geeks like you or me will never drive an Apple design decision and that is as it should be. The bell curve of humanity drives the optimal size choices more than most things.
Anyway, we have no idea how good the virtual keyboard will be - the demos make it look quite good.
I'd say also very doubtful. They didn't do this with the iPhone, did they?
Nope, in fact the original iPhone launch, most stores did not even get display models for several days after it went on sale.
Nope, in fact the original iPhone launch, most stores did not even get display models for several days after it went on sale.
They did have the giant mockups in Apple store widows starting a few days prior, if I remember right.
My guess: Initialy I thought 'Yes,' but then concluded 'No,' since that would be too obvious!
Nope, in fact the original iPhone launch, most stores did not even get display models for several days after it went on sale.
I had the pleasure of seeing the store at fair oaks mall at iphone's launch. They had signs bigger than a hotel room.
I am constantly surprised that Apple makes all of it's products the same size or only makes one size of each type given the fact that humans come in sizes ranging from 1 to 2.5 metres tall and hand sizes range wildly. I'd like to see them manufacture two or three sizes of all the iProducts and pay much more attention to the ergonomics, but this is something Apple has historically never been very good at.
It's not that they are "not good" at it. In-fact it's their self control to NOT release a barrage of varying devices that makes Apple what they are.
There are a few good reason for Apple's design philosophies, but one of the main ones is that with multiple sizes comes a headache of software testing, not just for Apple but for third party developers. I spent all this morning checking the compatibility with Apples 'limited' range of devices, I would hate to think what it's like to dev for a platform such as Android.
Standardisation of parts = cheap/more reliable products.
Familiarity and consistency also play a role.