I normally agree with apple on most of their lawsuits. This one seems a bit general. "copy the look and feel".
I think that if I spent so much energy and time to create something original, I'd be furious if another large company (not unlike Samsung) totally ripped off all of my ideas and presented them in what appears to be almost exactly the same way. The level of similarity between the products shown in the article is comical, because the resemblance of the Samsung products to the iPhone & iPad is beyond obvious.
PCMag pretty much takes every opportunity to trash Apple, there isn't much reason to pay attention to what they have to say. Unless your intent is to trash Apple.
Whether Apple is within it's rights or not, the perception this leaves may be what the PCMag article intimates: Apple is acting with some desperation. Matters not if it's true. It's what some significant percentage of the population THINKS is true. That's where Apple needs to be careful.
but don't twist what few neurons you have into a tiny bunch. we all know you have special needs and you should focus on those and let the grownups talk.
In other words you have no case to make outside of "Jobs is bad." Typical. And reported.
I don't believe PCMag is all that influential over the larger perception of anything.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Whether Apple is within it's rights or not, the perception this leaves may be what the PCMag article intimates: Apple is acting with some desperation. Matters not if it's true. It's what some significant percentage of the population THINKS is true. That's where Apple needs to be careful.
So in your credulous zeal to believe anything that might reflect poorly on Apple you're actually making the case that Samsung did in fact copy the iPhone as soon as they got a look at it, introducing a mockup (apparently a habit with Samsung) to grab some mindshare and figuring out how to actually get on the market nearly a year later.
Mac fags will be Mac fags no matter what Apple does.
Cool it.
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It's a 2007 phone. Announced in 2007. Released in 2007. Typing 2006 on a jpg does not a fact make.
Outside of the fact the current Samsung devices that are clearly part of this case look nothing like the device in that image or could be mistaken for an iPhone, it cracks me up that the iPhone image was altered to add the Samsung phone to the hand.
Outside of the fact the current Samsung devices that are clearly part of this case look nothing like the device in that image or could be mistaken for an iPhone, it cracks me up that the iPhone image was altered to add the Samsung phone to the hand.
So then you have to wonder, did Galbi find that image elsewhere and repost it without checking, or did he deliberately attempt to deceive? If the latter, WTF? That's getting pretty invested in making sure Apple is always wrong.
Thanks to whoever caught the image manipulation. While I think it's highly unlikely that Samsung saw an iPhone and less than a month later had a working device at CEBIT copied from it, it does appear now that Apple could not have copied Samsung's F700 either.
A good lesson not to believe everything you see on the internet (as tho we all didn't already know better). A little personal research before accepting statements as fact.
Thanks to whoever caught the image manipulation. While I think it's highly unlikely that Samsung saw an iPhone and less than a month later had a working device at CEBIT copied from it, it does appear now that Apple could not have copied Samsung's F700 either.
A good lesson not to believe everything you see on the internet (as tho we all didn't already know better). A little personal research before accepting statements as fact.
As you were everyone
And since they didn't actually release anything till nearly a year later, I'm not so sure they had a "working device" at CeBIT. It's not uncommon (certainly not for Samsung) to show nonfunctioning mockups just to drive some mindshare-- which is what they did with their recent "redesigned" Galaxy Tab.
And since they didn't actually release anything till nearly a year later, I'm not so sure they had a "working device" at CeBIT. It's not uncommon (certainly not for Samsung) to show nonfunctioning mockups just to drive some mindshare-- which is what they did with their recent "redesigned" Galaxy Tab.
Like the non-functioning Samsung Tab that came out right after the iPad 2 saying it's thinner despite actual side-by-side comparisons empirically debunking that claim. How do you mess up a mockup that only has to display a lopping video and stay constantly connect to a power source? Better question, why do you lie about it?
The people waxing poetic about this are the same people who wax poetic about everything that Apple does. You don't hear any of this when someone is suing Apple. Which happens very frequently.
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They may not be. I would still say that Apple needs to be cognizant of the way their actions are perceived and reported by the media.
I'm using my iPhone so my research options are limited but it looks like the Samsung F700 was announced [and demoed] at the 3GSM World Congress the month AFTER the iPhone was demoed, wasn't even given a ship date until September 2007 which stated Vodafone in November 2007 as the first carrier and only carrier at that time.
In other words you have no case to make outside of "Jobs is bad." Typical. And reported.
you are the one with 'no case'. you chimed in with 'stupid comment' and nothing more so stop behaving like a fool that has no clue. And my case? you mean my counter among the 100's of posts about how evil samsung is 'copying' or stealing from apple that Jobs is reported to be a thief of ideas as reported by his own former employees?
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I normally agree with apple on most of their lawsuits. This one seems a bit general. "copy the look and feel".
I think that if I spent so much energy and time to create something original, I'd be furious if another large company (not unlike Samsung) totally ripped off all of my ideas and presented them in what appears to be almost exactly the same way. The level of similarity between the products shown in the article is comical, because the resemblance of the Samsung products to the iPhone & iPad is beyond obvious.
Indeed, the silliness:
Apple's Sloppy, Fearful Samsung Lawsuit
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383820,00.asp
PCMag pretty much takes every opportunity to trash Apple, there isn't much reason to pay attention to what they have to say. Unless your intent is to trash Apple.
Ah, the rationale:
'Lawsuit displays Apple's sense of urgency'
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...tegoryCode=129
Could it not really be that for Apple to hold a patent it has to defend said patent to continue to hold it? Must it be some nefarious scheme?
yes i am saying that.
but don't twist what few neurons you have into a tiny bunch. we all know you have special needs and you should focus on those and let the grownups talk.
Whether Apple is within it's rights or not, the perception this leaves may be what the PCMag article intimates: Apple is acting with some desperation. Matters not if it's true. It's what some significant percentage of the population THINKS is true. That's where Apple needs to be careful.
Apple has no case. Apparently, Apple's lawyers forgot about this.
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In fact, these are the phones that Samsung showed at '06 CeBIT
For the link wary, they all pretty much look like this:
The phone you pictured was announced in February of '07 and not released till December of that year.
So in your credulous zeal to believe anything that might reflect poorly on Apple you're actually making the case that Samsung did in fact copy the iPhone as soon as they got a look at it, introducing a mockup (apparently a habit with Samsung) to grab some mindshare and figuring out how to actually get on the market nearly a year later.
Congratulations.
EDIT: correct typo on year
Apple has no case. Apparently, Apple's lawyers forgot about this.
It's a 2007 phone. Announced in 2007. Released in 2007. Typing 2006 on a jpg does not a fact make.
I don't believe PCMag is all that influential over the larger perception of anything.
They may not be. I would still say that Apple needs to be cognizant of the way their actions are perceived and reported by the media.
Mac fags will be Mac fags no matter what Apple does.
Cool it.
It's a 2007 phone. Announced in 2007. Released in 2007. Typing 2006 on a jpg does not a fact make.
Outside of the fact the current Samsung devices that are clearly part of this case look nothing like the device in that image or could be mistaken for an iPhone, it cracks me up that the iPhone image was altered to add the Samsung phone to the hand.
Cool it.
Outside of the fact the current Samsung devices that are clearly part of this case look nothing like the device in that image or could be mistaken for an iPhone, it cracks me up that the iPhone image was altered to add the Samsung phone to the hand.
So then you have to wonder, did Galbi find that image elsewhere and repost it without checking, or did he deliberately attempt to deceive? If the latter, WTF? That's getting pretty invested in making sure Apple is always wrong.
A good lesson not to believe everything you see on the internet (as tho we all didn't already know better). A little personal research before accepting statements as fact.
As you were everyone
Thanks to whoever caught the image manipulation. While I think it's highly unlikely that Samsung saw an iPhone and less than a month later had a working device at CEBIT copied from it, it does appear now that Apple could not have copied Samsung's F700 either.
A good lesson not to believe everything you see on the internet (as tho we all didn't already know better). A little personal research before accepting statements as fact.
As you were everyone
And since they didn't actually release anything till nearly a year later, I'm not so sure they had a "working device" at CeBIT. It's not uncommon (certainly not for Samsung) to show nonfunctioning mockups just to drive some mindshare-- which is what they did with their recent "redesigned" Galaxy Tab.
And since they didn't actually release anything till nearly a year later, I'm not so sure they had a "working device" at CeBIT. It's not uncommon (certainly not for Samsung) to show nonfunctioning mockups just to drive some mindshare-- which is what they did with their recent "redesigned" Galaxy Tab.
Like the non-functioning Samsung Tab that came out right after the iPad 2 saying it's thinner despite actual side-by-side comparisons empirically debunking that claim. How do you mess up a mockup that only has to display a lopping video and stay constantly connect to a power source? Better question, why do you lie about it?
They may not be. I would still say that Apple needs to be cognizant of the way their actions are perceived and reported by the media.
you are the one with 'no case'. you chimed in with 'stupid comment' and nothing more so stop behaving like a fool that has no clue. And my case? you mean my counter among the 100's of posts about how evil samsung is 'copying' or stealing from apple that Jobs is reported to be a thief of ideas as reported by his own former employees?
http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?sto...tion_Field.txt
so i friggin laugh at you and your 'reported'.
Apple is acting with some desperation. Matters not if it's true. It's what some significant percentage of the population THINKS is true.
"Significant percentage" meaning tiny minority? And a minority that tends to think Apple is desperate in everything it does anyway.
They may not be. I would still say that Apple needs to be cognizant of the way their actions are perceived and reported by the media.
Brilliant! Don't sue 'cos Gizmodo won't like it.
http://thechurchofapple.com/2011/04/...-sues-samsung/