… They gave it a standing ovation yesterday. Probably because they were more focused on the improved functionality than whether the app icons are ugly or not. :rolleyes:[/quote]
Well, the Apple employees gave a standing ovation at least. Apple staff are known to sit in the audience to be the excited attendees, cheering & standing, etc.[/quote]
Actually, in many cases, they are invited to be in the audience to acknowledge their contributions.
[quote name="Dreambox" url="/t/157945/apple-reveals-overhauled-ios-7-with-vibrant-more-colorful-design/360#post_2345123"]Kindergarten design from stone age IM[B][I][U][COLOR=red]H[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B]O.[/QUOTE]
When I first saw it I wasn't impressed but I had only seen pictures and had yet to see any video. Once I saw video of it in use I was very impressed. I really do like it a lot. However, the video of the beta user I watched also had the following link:
I realize that it won't be popular but you have to admit there are very striking similarities. Now, I've not used a Windows Phone 8 so I don't know if it functions smoothly but strictly from a design point, there is a lot borrowed. Look at the "incoming call" for example. There were also some screens that I liked on the Windows 8 side better (weather, calendar, music player and maps.)
That said, I'm still excited for the changes coming in i0S 7, but the comparison video just put a little damper on that. I'm not a "paid troll," just expressing my opinion. You can draw your own. Has anyone here had any hands on experience with Windows Phone 8? Is it sluggish or does it flow pretty well? I hope not to get too much hate thrown my way but we'll see.
Another interesting look at many of the "new" features. As I and others have stated this entire update seems to be mostly me too items (system settings pull up menu, air drop, better camera apps, live wall papers, etc.) And many of the new features look strikingly similar to existing feature on other operating systems
This which I have already posted shows two others .
And yes it is a big deal to directly copy many of the features. Live wall paper, new lock screen, new icon design, new camera feature, new settings tab, new call answering feature, new sharing feature such as air drop. Not a single one of those is new what so ever. Many have been out for years. And IOS didnt just take the idea, they even took the exact UI in a lot of cases. So innovation is not what comes to mind in IO7. More like, "lets just copy all the feature from Android, Windows phone, and web OS and act likes it's new. None of the apple die hards have ever used said phones so they will never know."
I'm thoroughly impressed. It's definitely one of the best things to happen to the iPhone. They had me on Control Centre alone, but I can access it from the lock screen as well? Sold. This seems to be a new direction for iOS's development vision for the future, not just a new look. New management = new ideas. It looks amazing and I can't wait to try it.
Part of the reason for iPad's success is that it shares the general same interface and apps as iPhone, and familiarity is there.
How on earth could you prove this?
The fact the Springboard was brought to the iPad without any revisiting was the capital source of any ugliness we could only find in it.
Any good iPad app sports the UX being different --- greatly! --- from what this very app displays in the iPhone version. No market shrinking because of that? Absolute mystery.
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Or should Apple throw this compatibility and cohesiveness in the trash, to entertain people like you?
If they did, I'd call quite decent reasons to start innovating.
Those `compatibility and cohesiveness' of yours are so thin, so elusive! And yet they do bring design issues.
Those paraly lac tic moves and panoramas are there to prevent the bunch of purist and simplistic icons from fading in pastel backgrounds. Tons of malicious skeuomorphic animations were killed so that gallons of processor juice were freed and put to work. "Went shopping, darling! Saved so much money!"
Then again, that inclinometer, 't'd be nice to beta-test, wouldn't 't?
If the Calendar's icon flips once a day, why can not the Newsstand's one do so just when you add a content? "Burn in hell, skeuomorphism, burn in hell"
All in all it will grow on us, Apple's icons.
``Marketing people design the iOS UX.''
If this is not true, it's just very, very unfair to say, dear Sir Jonathan.
If it is indeed true, this is an undisputedly brilliant idea. While Apple's marketing function is the most capable one of all we can find them in there, untechy marketing people with no design skills see the interface differently and implementing their view is what we call innovation and that being superior to any pure technical amelioration.
"Nothing in UX is so far final."
Can not happen. Very very improbable.
Third-parties.
That's gonna be a problem. Not only the new Photos' icon mimics a handful of existing icons and little devs have thus to abandon theirs and to teach us the users to quickly spot them anew, but they all will change. Quite sporadical.
By the way, dear Apple... Why is it that, when I try to figure out how to help devs in the situation like we face now, something like ``SVG + CSS'' pops up in my mind? Does it not in yours?
I predicted the parallax feature last night in this post on MacRumors. The UI group "tat" (The Astonishing Tribe) that Blackberry brought on board for OS10, demonstrated the idea back in 2009:
<span style="line-height:1.231;">What's the difference between this and </span>
<span style="line-height:1.231;">Samsung "Share Shot" or "Group Cast" on the GS3 ?</span>
(There's no need to bump on Samsung devices either. That NFC method is just the quickest way to share without any setup at all.)
The feature of the 3d effect is obivosluy is not 100% new, it still is requiring good motion sensors, and descent gpu, (that sorta explains a reson not on older devices)
The other thing about wireless sharing is it is already in Mac OS, and coming to IOS, so it is not new, and is apples advertising, not samsungs tap phones...
Will someone let me know if airdrop on IOS 7, work with airdrop on mavericks?
This is actually a great video. I don't see the problem with people admitting that the mobile operating systems are sharing all the best features, and even Steve said around '95 before coming back to Apple, "good artists copy, great artists steal and we've been shameless about stealing great ideas" etc... That's one thing I don't get with regards some of Apple's latter day issues with certain companies and products. Steve (and now Tim) continuing to get angry about certain things feels a lot of wasted effort.. why not follow 1995 Steve Jobs and concentrate on just making great products of great ideas?
I don't see the problem with people admitting that the mobile operating systems are sharing all the best features, and even Steve said around '95 before coming back to Apple, "good artists copy, great artists steal and we've been shameless about stealing great ideas" etc... That's one thing I don't get with regards some of Apple's latter day issues with certain companies and products. Steve (and now Tim) continuing to get angry about certain things feels a lot of wasted effort.. why not follow 1995 Steve Jobs and concentrate on just making great products of great ideas?
Because it is being taken out of context. You should read the interview in its entirety.
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Well, the Apple employees gave a standing ovation at least. Apple staff are known to sit in the audience to be the excited attendees, cheering & standing, etc.[/quote]
Actually, in many cases, they are invited to be in the audience to acknowledge their contributions.
Absolutely pathetic trolling.
I realize that it won't be popular but you have to admit there are very striking similarities. Now, I've not used a Windows Phone 8 so I don't know if it functions smoothly but strictly from a design point, there is a lot borrowed. Look at the "incoming call" for example. There were also some screens that I liked on the Windows 8 side better (weather, calendar, music player and maps.)
That said, I'm still excited for the changes coming in i0S 7, but the comparison video just put a little damper on that. I'm not a "paid troll," just expressing my opinion. You can draw your own. Has anyone here had any hands on experience with Windows Phone 8? Is it sluggish or does it flow pretty well? I hope not to get too much hate thrown my way but we'll see.
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Absolutely pathetic trolling.
Hey Tallest! How about this! Bet you will say the entire website is Trolling too!
http://jonyiveredesignsthings.tumblr.com/
Btw, you are a nazi troll-hunter. Nah. Just boring.
For too-lazy-to-visit-link-trollhunters
Jony Ive redesigns Earth
Jony Ive reveals the inspiration behind iOS7.
Jony Ive redesigns Garage Band
And, yikes,
Jony Ive redesigns Mac OS X.
You missed my favorite Ive redesign. The Star Wars poster. Complete with all that beneficial transluncency:
Another interesting look at many of the "new" features. As I and others have stated this entire update seems to be mostly me too items (system settings pull up menu, air drop, better camera apps, live wall papers, etc.) And many of the new features look strikingly similar to existing feature on other operating systems
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-19512_7-10017134-1.html
This shows some feature
http://www.geek.com/apple/ios-7-looks-eerily-similar-to-2011-windows-phone-1558625/
This which I have already posted shows two others .
And yes it is a big deal to directly copy many of the features. Live wall paper, new lock screen, new icon design, new camera feature, new settings tab, new call answering feature, new sharing feature such as air drop. Not a single one of those is new what so ever. Many have been out for years. And IOS didnt just take the idea, they even took the exact UI in a lot of cases. So innovation is not what comes to mind in IO7. More like, "lets just copy all the feature from Android, Windows phone, and web OS and act likes it's new. None of the apple die hards have ever used said phones so they will never know."
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I have no idea what your point is.
Then why care to reply?
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Part of the reason for iPad's success is that it shares the general same interface and apps as iPhone, and familiarity is there.
How on earth could you prove this?
The fact the Springboard was brought to the iPad without any revisiting was the capital source of any ugliness we could only find in it.
Any good iPad app sports the UX being different --- greatly! --- from what this very app displays in the iPhone version. No market shrinking because of that? Absolute mystery.
Quote:
Or should Apple throw this compatibility and cohesiveness in the trash, to entertain people like you?
If they did, I'd call quite decent reasons to start innovating.
Those `compatibility and cohesiveness' of yours are so thin, so elusive! And yet they do bring design issues.
Alright, wrapped my head around this iOS 7 UI...
Those paraly lac tic moves and panoramas are there to prevent the bunch of purist and simplistic icons from fading in pastel backgrounds. Tons of malicious skeuomorphic animations were killed so that gallons of processor juice were freed and put to work. "Went shopping, darling! Saved so much money!"
Then again, that inclinometer, 't'd be nice to beta-test, wouldn't 't?
If the Calendar's icon flips once a day, why can not the Newsstand's one do so just when you add a content? "Burn in hell, skeuomorphism, burn in hell"
All in all it will grow on us, Apple's icons.
``Marketing people design the iOS UX.''
If this is not true, it's just very, very unfair to say, dear Sir Jonathan.
If it is indeed true, this is an undisputedly brilliant idea. While Apple's marketing function is the most capable one of all we can find them in there, untechy marketing people with no design skills see the interface differently and implementing their view is what we call innovation and that being superior to any pure technical amelioration.
"Nothing in UX is so far final."
Can not happen. Very very improbable.
Third-parties.
That's gonna be a problem. Not only the new Photos' icon mimics a handful of existing icons and little devs have thus to abandon theirs and to teach us the users to quickly spot them anew, but they all will change. Quite sporadical.
By the way, dear Apple... Why is it that, when I try to figure out how to help devs in the situation like we face now, something like ``SVG + CSS'' pops up in my mind? Does it not in yours?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrM25jqhXdA
No, try again.
Try again what? That isn't even a coherent thought at this point.
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No, try again.
It's not like I created the video. Which parts specifically do you disagree with?
On mobile TS shows as banned??
EDIT: Double-odd. So does his profile.
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Odd. . .
On mobile TS shows as banned??
EDIT: Double-odd. So does his profile.
hmm weird it actually shows that on the full web version as well.
The other thing about wireless sharing is it is already in Mac OS, and coming to IOS, so it is not new, and is apples advertising, not samsungs tap phones...
Will someone let me know if airdrop on IOS 7, work with airdrop on mavericks?
If he is really banned, whomever is responsible just reference your favorite charity, and I'll make a contribution under Appleinsider.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Odd. . .
On mobile TS shows as banned??
EDIT: Double-odd. So does his profile.
It couldn't have been something he'd said, or they'd have to ban about half the members.
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Originally Posted by 2385amh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrM25jqhXdA
This is actually a great video. I don't see the problem with people admitting that the mobile operating systems are sharing all the best features, and even Steve said around '95 before coming back to Apple, "good artists copy, great artists steal and we've been shameless about stealing great ideas" etc... That's one thing I don't get with regards some of Apple's latter day issues with certain companies and products. Steve (and now Tim) continuing to get angry about certain things feels a lot of wasted effort.. why not follow 1995 Steve Jobs and concentrate on just making great products of great ideas?
Because it is being taken out of context. You should read the interview in its entirety.