The "C" doesn't stand for cheap, it stands for "color". To that end Apple will use polycarbonate which is sturdy, with color through and through and has passed the test of rigidity previously in the MacBooks of yore.
Indeed. Polycarbonate, just like other plastic phones.
Apple already has patents for capacitative touch panels with virtual buttons. The technology is there because Palm over 5 years ago pioneered a fully touch enabled surface around a multitouch screen on the Pre. Tech has come a long way since the Pre and I'm sure Apple can do some unique things with capacitative touch and gestures to operate the device.
With respect to Palm (which was indeed a pioneer company), a fully-touch enabled surface with multitouch screen was hardly a novel concept.
I hope they do and fast to stop the bleeding. It's completely obvious, people like big-ger screens. I myself am over 40 and have difficulty reading and would video (more) on a big-ger, but not jumbo screen.
Find the sweet spot. The current size is Not the sweet spot.
From discussions with friends/colleagues who have Android S4s or HTCs, the number one reason for purchase was screen size. And the camera picture quality is extremely good too. I don't think, by and large, that they care about the particular operating system or any eco-system. It's a smart phone with a lovely big screen - that'll do, thank you!
It's not in Apple's interests to be dogmatic about screen size. All touch-interface Smartphones and Tablets, whatever size, are copies/variations of the Apple iPhone, that's axiomatic. The screen size is a non-issue in terms of IP ownership, but it is an issue for the consumer in a Mobile phone shop.
The longer Apple wait to produce a 5 inch iPhone, the more time they give Samsung, Sony and LG to dominate the phablet market. C'mon Apple, make a bigger iPhone and do it fast!!!!!
The longer Apple wait to produce a 5 inch iPhone, the more time they give Samsung, Sony and LG to dominate the phablet market. C'mon Apple, make a bigger iPhone and do it fast!!!!!
They may have to wait for newer screen technology which is just getting ready to begin shipping, they have to decide on the right screen size, then they have to make sure the processor they can use is fast enough, etc. etc. Obviously, they aren't going to release a product with less battery life than any existing smartphone and they also have to make it profitable too.
I think if one isn't released next week, it's got a 50/50 chance, then it'll probably be in about 6 months or less. I don't think they could release 3 different models at the same time and be able to have proper production levels. Even Samsung doesn't announce all of their smartphones at the same time.
The longer Apple wait to produce a 5 inch iPhone, the more time they give Samsung, Sony and LG to dominate the phablet market. C'mon Apple, make a bigger iPhone and do it fast!!!!!
Apple needs to make telephony just another app. Let the 4G iPads act as phones if the user wants (with headphones or whatever). If you think using a phablet looks silly, then just take the data plan (or not) and leave the phone out. If you want the telephony, then it's there for you.
It's called data plan + Skype. You should try it some time.
I can see Apple moving to two product cycles a year with a larger 4.8" iPhone in the spring and continuing to release the two 4" versions in September. It amazes me that some people still doubt that Apple will continue to ignore this market. A larger iPhone is coming and the question is not "if" but when. Interesting that the same people that doubted the iPad Mini are the same ones that doubt a larger iPhone. You would think they would learn by now.
This is why I would like for Apple to actually go out and buy HTC and run as a semi independent subsidiary.Apple would release iPhone September and then HTC would release IOS based phones of different designs in the Spring. I would love to see an IOS HTC ONE, Let them also produce a Mini and Maxi version too. Its pretty clear that after Apple's engineering and Design talent are too busy just producing a couple articles (just look how long the Mac Pro took to come out after years w/o upgrade - wait its not out yet). The current iPhone design is nice but kind of old. iPhone has been become like Henry Fords Model T - one design - limited colors.
Apple should also consider purchasing BlackBerry for the email and encryption technology. Offer it as a high end option on the iphone's. Otherwise Microsoft will probably purchase BB. Apple has benefit a great deal from Corporations being willing to purchase the iphone. The iPad has begun establishing itself as the default application platform for corporations. A revived Microsoft in the smart phone business is a great threat. IT departments all over the country love MS and would prefer pushing MS over apple; especially when the make managing the phones easier. Ultimately Apple needs to get the installed base of IOS phones over 50% - They can't continue to be a minority of the platforms because developers will go to where the users are.
With respect to Palm (which was indeed a pioneer company), a fully-touch enabled surface with multitouch screen was hardly a novel concept.
If I remember correctly Palm was the first post-iPhone smartphone to use an entirely touch sensitive front panel that surrounded their multitouch screen?
Anyway my point was with the screen tech available today Apple is likely planning on completely overturning the market with their larger iPhone.
It won't look like an HTC or Samsung. It will be the ultimate minimalist look with no buttons or distractions at the front of the phone.
Simply a screen operated by virtual buttons and gestures.
At that point the screen could be as large as 5 or 6 inches but it won't feel that big because there won't be any artifacts, "chins", or "bezels" around the screen. You won't know where the screen ends or begins essentially.
That's the future. I imagine the shift will be as big as the shift from 2G iPod Shuffle to 3G's minimalist buttonless design that was ahead of its time.
Let's acknowledge that without Apple there would be no Samsung smartphone, or Phablet. Apple singlehandedly created an entire new genre of objects. All the infrastructure was already there but no one knew how to make it work. Without iOS, Android would not have been invented.
I guess you have no clue. Both iOS and Android are UNIX based.
This is why I would like for Apple to actually go out and buy HTC and run as a semi independent subsidiary.Apple would release iPhone September and then HTC would release IOS based phones of different designs in the Spring. I would love to see an IOS HTC ONE, Let them also produce a Mini and Maxi version too. Its pretty clear that after Apple's engineering and Design talent are too busy just producing a couple articles (just look how long the Mac Pro took to come out after years w/o upgrade - wait its not out yet). The current iPhone design is nice but kind of old. iPhone has been become like Henry Fords Model T - one design - limited colors.
Apple should also consider purchasing BlackBerry for the email and encryption technology. Offer it as a high end option on the iphone's. Otherwise Microsoft will probably purchase BB. Apple has benefit a great deal from Corporations being willing to purchase the iphone. The iPad has begun establishing itself as the default application platform for corporations. A revived Microsoft in the smart phone business is a great threat. IT departments all over the country love MS and would prefer pushing MS over apple; especially when the make managing the phones easier. Ultimately Apple needs to get the installed base of IOS phones over 50% - They can't continue to be a minority of the platforms because developers will go to where the users are.
Short answer: No.
HTC is a company that's been seeing its sales DECLINE all year and is bleeding money every quarter. Why would Apple want that?
I guess you have no clue. Both iOS and Android are UNIX based.
Of course they are, from the same fork handle indeed. However - what AnalogJack claimed is very true.
Perhaps just like without the US Apollo missions - TTL, WD40, Teflon etc... would not have been invented at that time. Had Jobs / Apple not revolutionized the smart phone and touch based computer with the iPhone and iPad, products heavily based on them would still have been invented, eventually
Android inc was incorporated in 2003 originally to build a better OS for cameras etc... Apple were already developing touch versions of its OS for the iPhone at this time
If I remember correctly Palm was the first post-iPhone smartphone to use an entirely touch sensitive front panel that surrounded their multitouch screen?
Anyway my point was with the screen tech available today Apple is likely planning on completely overturning the market with their larger iPhone.
It won't look like an HTC or Samsung. It will be the ultimate minimalist look with no buttons or distractions at the front of the phone.
Simply a screen operated by virtual buttons and gestures.
At that point the screen could be as large as 5 or 6 inches but it won't feel that big because there won't be any artifacts, "chins", or "bezels" around the screen. You won't know where the screen ends or begins essentially.
That's the future. I imagine the shift will be as big as the shift from 2G iPod Shuffle to 3G's minimalist buttonless design that was ahead of its time.
I just want to point out that the whole lack of buttons and gestures is already being done and it is not new. Samsung has some gestures currently in their Android implementation (It is called TouchWiz - not fan of this one - I prefer HTC's "Sense" version) and the bezel disappearing is practically here and has been for some time in the Android market.
Also note that Google's recommendation (for some time) is that there are no physical buttons and that they be replaced by virtual buttons (which I've had on my phone for nearly 2 years).
I think the largest problem on this site is that the vocal minority shout down anyone who tries to show what most people know: Apple has fallen behind and they need to get back in the game. You can dicker on word definitions about what is 'copying' or cry about how some companies mimicked/copied/were inspired by another UI but when it comes down to it, people should be concerned that they are getting a great product for what they are paying for it. Especially if you are paying a premium for said phone.
There is no point debating with people who use dictionaries to make their points because they are missing the big picture which is this: Apple designed something great with the iPhone. Acknowledged. They lead the pack for a few years but are now so focused on suing people and calling out others that they have gone away from what they used to do best. They are also too proud to admit mistakes and as a result they have been slow to keep up with the market. "People don't want a 7 inch tablet", "4 inch phone is the optimal size", "We don't want multiple versions of our phones".. blah blah.. I'm paraphrasing yet but the point is Apple has gone back on every single one of these statements and they are going to do more. I suspect they will finally cave on their "our keyboard is perfect" statement because let's face it, it is painful to use an iPhone to type after you've used Swype or another similar keyboard.
Apple needs to compete and they first have to catch up where they are deficient and due to the fierce competition on the Android + BB and WP, they have a tough job in front of them. Apple is not going to the first to release the flex displays because it will be LG or Samsung. Apple may beat everyone with the first projector enabled phone but that is up in the air.
I ask only that you try to look at the technology objectively. We've all been wrong in our lives and will be again but you need to admit when you are wrong. Apple will release a larger iPhone and just like you were all wrong about the iPhone 5c ("It will never happen", "that's not Apple!", etc...), you will be wrong on this and you will continue to put down smart and insightful people on this site.
Prove that Apple has fallen behind. You can rattle off specs from a list but that doesn't mean anything. I can rattle off ingredients from a recipe but it doesn't make me a chef. Just like a recipe is more than just ingredients, an iPhone is more than just a spec list. The iPhone is still #1 individual smartphone model. iOS has rarely been the #1 smartphone OS except for maybe a qtr or two. Oh and the iPhone still earns the most profits.
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Until then, I'm not your dancing monkey.
You can't patent sizes.
Imagine if you can ...
You can't be serious with a 6 inch!!!
Really ....?
The "C" doesn't stand for cheap, it stands for "color". To that end Apple will use polycarbonate which is sturdy, with color through and through and has passed the test of rigidity previously in the MacBooks of yore.
Indeed. Polycarbonate, just like other plastic phones.
Apple already has patents for capacitative touch panels with virtual buttons. The technology is there because Palm over 5 years ago pioneered a fully touch enabled surface around a multitouch screen on the Pre. Tech has come a long way since the Pre and I'm sure Apple can do some unique things with capacitative touch and gestures to operate the device.
With respect to Palm (which was indeed a pioneer company), a fully-touch enabled surface with multitouch screen was hardly a novel concept.
It's completely obvious, people like big-ger screens. I myself am over 40 and have difficulty reading and would video (more) on a big-ger, but not jumbo screen.
Find the sweet spot. The current size is Not the sweet spot.
From discussions with friends/colleagues who have Android S4s or HTCs, the number one reason for purchase was screen size. And the camera picture quality is extremely good too. I don't think, by and large, that they care about the particular operating system or any eco-system. It's a smart phone with a lovely big screen - that'll do, thank you!
It's not in Apple's interests to be dogmatic about screen size. All touch-interface Smartphones and Tablets, whatever size, are copies/variations of the Apple iPhone, that's axiomatic. The screen size is a non-issue in terms of IP ownership, but it is an issue for the consumer in a Mobile phone shop.
The longer Apple wait to produce a 5 inch iPhone, the more time they give Samsung, Sony and LG to dominate the phablet market. C'mon Apple, make a bigger iPhone and do it fast!!!!!
The longer Apple wait to produce a 5 inch iPhone, the more time they give Samsung, Sony and LG to dominate the phablet market. C'mon Apple, make a bigger iPhone and do it fast!!!!!
They may have to wait for newer screen technology which is just getting ready to begin shipping, they have to decide on the right screen size, then they have to make sure the processor they can use is fast enough, etc. etc. Obviously, they aren't going to release a product with less battery life than any existing smartphone and they also have to make it profitable too.
I think if one isn't released next week, it's got a 50/50 chance, then it'll probably be in about 6 months or less. I don't think they could release 3 different models at the same time and be able to have proper production levels. Even Samsung doesn't announce all of their smartphones at the same time.
The longer Apple wait to produce a 5 inch iPhone, the more time they give Samsung, Sony and LG to dominate the phablet market. C'mon Apple, make a bigger iPhone and do it fast!!!!!
It's called data plan + Skype. You should try it some time.
I can see Apple moving to two product cycles a year with a larger 4.8" iPhone in the spring and continuing to release the two 4" versions in September. It amazes me that some people still doubt that Apple will continue to ignore this market. A larger iPhone is coming and the question is not "if" but when. Interesting that the same people that doubted the iPad Mini are the same ones that doubt a larger iPhone. You would think they would learn by now.
This is why I would like for Apple to actually go out and buy HTC and run as a semi independent subsidiary.Apple would release iPhone September and then HTC would release IOS based phones of different designs in the Spring. I would love to see an IOS HTC ONE, Let them also produce a Mini and Maxi version too. Its pretty clear that after Apple's engineering and Design talent are too busy just producing a couple articles (just look how long the Mac Pro took to come out after years w/o upgrade - wait its not out yet). The current iPhone design is nice but kind of old. iPhone has been become like Henry Fords Model T - one design - limited colors.
Apple should also consider purchasing BlackBerry for the email and encryption technology. Offer it as a high end option on the iphone's. Otherwise Microsoft will probably purchase BB. Apple has benefit a great deal from Corporations being willing to purchase the iphone. The iPad has begun establishing itself as the default application platform for corporations. A revived Microsoft in the smart phone business is a great threat. IT departments all over the country love MS and would prefer pushing MS over apple; especially when the make managing the phones easier. Ultimately Apple needs to get the installed base of IOS phones over 50% - They can't continue to be a minority of the platforms because developers will go to where the users are.
I have proof that Apple making a phablet ? Apple copying Samsung.
Share it!
If I remember correctly Palm was the first post-iPhone smartphone to use an entirely touch sensitive front panel that surrounded their multitouch screen?
Anyway my point was with the screen tech available today Apple is likely planning on completely overturning the market with their larger iPhone.
It won't look like an HTC or Samsung. It will be the ultimate minimalist look with no buttons or distractions at the front of the phone.
Simply a screen operated by virtual buttons and gestures.
At that point the screen could be as large as 5 or 6 inches but it won't feel that big because there won't be any artifacts, "chins", or "bezels" around the screen. You won't know where the screen ends or begins essentially.
That's the future. I imagine the shift will be as big as the shift from 2G iPod Shuffle to 3G's minimalist buttonless design that was ahead of its time.
Let's acknowledge that without Apple there would be no Samsung smartphone, or Phablet. Apple singlehandedly created an entire new genre of objects. All the infrastructure was already there but no one knew how to make it work. Without iOS, Android would not have been invented.
I guess you have no clue. Both iOS and Android are UNIX based.
Short answer: No.
HTC is a company that's been seeing its sales DECLINE all year and is bleeding money every quarter. Why would Apple want that?
I guess you have no clue. Both iOS and Android are UNIX based.
Of course they are, from the same fork handle indeed. However - what AnalogJack claimed is very true.
Perhaps just like without the US Apollo missions - TTL, WD40, Teflon etc... would not have been invented at that time. Had Jobs / Apple not revolutionized the smart phone and touch based computer with the iPhone and iPad, products heavily based on them would still have been invented, eventually
Android inc was incorporated in 2003 originally to build a better OS for cameras etc... Apple were already developing touch versions of its OS for the iPhone at this time
If I remember correctly Palm was the first post-iPhone smartphone to use an entirely touch sensitive front panel that surrounded their multitouch screen?
Anyway my point was with the screen tech available today Apple is likely planning on completely overturning the market with their larger iPhone.
It won't look like an HTC or Samsung. It will be the ultimate minimalist look with no buttons or distractions at the front of the phone.
Simply a screen operated by virtual buttons and gestures.
At that point the screen could be as large as 5 or 6 inches but it won't feel that big because there won't be any artifacts, "chins", or "bezels" around the screen. You won't know where the screen ends or begins essentially.
That's the future. I imagine the shift will be as big as the shift from 2G iPod Shuffle to 3G's minimalist buttonless design that was ahead of its time.
I just want to point out that the whole lack of buttons and gestures is already being done and it is not new. Samsung has some gestures currently in their Android implementation (It is called TouchWiz - not fan of this one - I prefer HTC's "Sense" version) and the bezel disappearing is practically here and has been for some time in the Android market.
Also note that Google's recommendation (for some time) is that there are no physical buttons and that they be replaced by virtual buttons (which I've had on my phone for nearly 2 years).
I think the largest problem on this site is that the vocal minority shout down anyone who tries to show what most people know: Apple has fallen behind and they need to get back in the game. You can dicker on word definitions about what is 'copying' or cry about how some companies mimicked/copied/were inspired by another UI but when it comes down to it, people should be concerned that they are getting a great product for what they are paying for it. Especially if you are paying a premium for said phone.
There is no point debating with people who use dictionaries to make their points because they are missing the big picture which is this: Apple designed something great with the iPhone. Acknowledged. They lead the pack for a few years but are now so focused on suing people and calling out others that they have gone away from what they used to do best. They are also too proud to admit mistakes and as a result they have been slow to keep up with the market. "People don't want a 7 inch tablet", "4 inch phone is the optimal size", "We don't want multiple versions of our phones".. blah blah.. I'm paraphrasing yet but the point is Apple has gone back on every single one of these statements and they are going to do more. I suspect they will finally cave on their "our keyboard is perfect" statement because let's face it, it is painful to use an iPhone to type after you've used Swype or another similar keyboard.
Apple needs to compete and they first have to catch up where they are deficient and due to the fierce competition on the Android + BB and WP, they have a tough job in front of them. Apple is not going to the first to release the flex displays because it will be LG or Samsung. Apple may beat everyone with the first projector enabled phone but that is up in the air.
I ask only that you try to look at the technology objectively. We've all been wrong in our lives and will be again but you need to admit when you are wrong. Apple will release a larger iPhone and just like you were all wrong about the iPhone 5c ("It will never happen", "that's not Apple!", etc...), you will be wrong on this and you will continue to put down smart and insightful people on this site.
I guess you have no clue. Both iOS and Android are UNIX based.
I believe Android has a Linux kernel, so doesn't that make it UNIX-like, not UNIX-based?
Prove that Apple has fallen behind. You can rattle off specs from a list but that doesn't mean anything. I can rattle off ingredients from a recipe but it doesn't make me a chef. Just like a recipe is more than just ingredients, an iPhone is more than just a spec list. The iPhone is still #1 individual smartphone model. iOS has rarely been the #1 smartphone OS except for maybe a qtr or two. Oh and the iPhone still earns the most profits.