WSJ: Apple to launch two larger iPhones this year, scrap iPhone 5c

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  • Reply 41 of 228
    Here's an idea... can we have more than just rows and rows of icons? Don't just increase the screen size and then lazily add another row of icons and call it a day. Utilize the space by doing something useful with the UI. Give me something useful on the home screen like a calender widget or a task widget... you don't have to call it a widget. Call it a 'quickApp' or something with some Apple pizzazz... just give me OS X dashboard but on my phone that can house information or quick bits of useful data. I'm tired of just staring at icons.
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  • Reply 42 of 228
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    I expect one larger-sized phone (e.g., 4.8 inch). And the 5S and 5C to continue. The former as the high-end smaller form factor, and the latter as the lower-end (replacement for the 4S). The larger form factor phone will likely have 128GB (finally).

     

    No way that Apple is getting rid of the 5C or introducing two larger phones.


     

    that's it.  Kill them with logic & reason.

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  • Reply 43 of 228
    technotechno Posts: 737member

    Nothing more amusing than watching some clown put a tablet up to his ear, oh wait it is a phone.

     

    WSJ analysts are the clowns!

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  • Reply 44 of 228
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    Originally Posted by pmz View Post

     

    I could see Apple going with the 4.8" new size for 2 models, and discontinuing everything that came before it.

     

    But why would they do that?

     

    It seems much more likely that the new flagship iPhone be a the 4.8" model at $199, the 5S becomes $99, and the 5C becomes $0, and finally replaces the 4S.

     

    That seems to make the most sense, no?


     

    "That seems to make the most sense, no?"

     

    Yes, it does.

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  • Reply 45 of 228
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    Originally Posted by pmz View Post

     

    Every possible data? Please link to ANY. All data I'm aware of shows the 5C selling approximately equal to or better than the 4S in the year-over-year time frame.

     

    Apple's only goal with the 5C at $99 was to sell equal to or better than the 4S did at $99.


     

    Wrong. Apple's goal was to launch a mid-range model that would maintain its margins on the basis of zero R&D development instead of truly innovating as it has always done.

     

    Worse, it was clearly aimed at emerging markets or even the vast poorer segments of the US; but it has failed spectacularly at this task because, EVEN in developing countries, the price of the 5S was almost the same as that of the 5C (particularly considering that many people buy on instalments in such markets). So why buy CRAP when you can buy better?

     

    Flop, flop, flop. Thankfully, the IIvx of the iPhones is no more.

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  • Reply 46 of 228
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    The timing of this rumor seems a bit suspect. Apple's quarterly earnings call is on Monday.
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  • Reply 47 of 228
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    brlawyer wrote: »
    Wrong. Apple's goal was to launch a mid-range model that would maintain its margins on the basis of zero R&D development instead of truly innovating as it has always done.

    Worse, it was clearly aimed at emerging markets or even the vast poorer segments of the US; but it has failed spectacularly at this task because, EVEN in developing countries, the price of the 5S was almost the same as that of the 5C (particularly considering that many people buy on instalments in such markets). So why buy CRAP when you can buy better?

    Flop, flop, flop. Thankfully, the IIvx of the iPhones is no more.
    And your sources for this are what exactly?

    And what exactly makes the 5C crap? That it's plastic? The 3G and 3GS phones were plastic. Were they crap too?
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  • Reply 48 of 228
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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post



    The timing of this rumor seems a bit suspect. Apple's quarterly earnings call is on Monday.

     

    I don't think this has anything to do with shorting the stock - in fact, Apple will NOT disclose individual model sales; they will just proclaim that all is fine in another record-breaking year, while quietly throwing the 5C into the dustbin of history. 

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  • Reply 49 of 228
    This is what's obvious to me:

    What will disappear is the 4S with it's 30-pin connector. The 5c will become the bottom-tier phone. The 5S will become the 5SC (a 5S with plastic casing to reduce cost) as the mid-tier phone. And the new 6 will be the top-tier phone with the White/Space/Gold metal options.

    A slightly larger screen-sized 6 is possible, but not certain.
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  • Reply 50 of 228
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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post





    And your sources for this are what exactly?



    And what exactly makes the 5C crap? That it's plastic? The 3G and 3GS phones were plastic. Were they crap too?

     

    The whole press at the time of the launch, plus Apple's own financial statement declarations. 

     

    And no, it's not about plastic - it's about lack of innovation and pandering to stupid analysts.

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  • Reply 51 of 228
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,751member
    cws wrote: »
    The New York Times is the most respected paper in the world -- not the Wall Street Journal.

    As recently as mid-2012 the WSJ was rated as "more believable" than the New York Times. I can't find any more recent evidence that it's changed.
    http://www.people-press.org/2012/08/16/further-decline-in-credibility-ratings-for-most-news-organizations/
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  • Reply 52 of 228
    I am a big fan of larger screen size if the bezel can be reduced thus minimizing the overall increase in size.
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  • Reply 53 of 228
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    pmz wrote: »
    Apple's only goal with the 5C at $99 was to sell equal to or better than the 4S did at $99.
    And others claim the goal of the 5C was to make people buy a 5S instead. Amazing how many people who weren't in the product planning sessions seem to know what Apple's goal was with this phone.
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  • Reply 54 of 228
    bobschlobbobschlob Posts: 1,074member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheDBA View Post



    4.8 inches is OK as long as they figure out a way to make it easy to use with one hand.

    This can be achieved either by hardware design, where the new device is actually not much taller and larger than the current iPhone 5/5S design (reduce the bezels) or software design where the controls of apps can be customized to appear either at the left or the right for left handed or right handed use respectively.



    If one handed use is a possibility, then my iPhone 5 will be upgraded later this year.



    But all this is pure speculation from Analysts who can not analyze.

    Almost everyone missed last year's breakthroughs, like 64 bit, motion co-processor, touch ID and most actually focused on little things like Gold color and cheaper iPhone.

     

    Absolutely.

    No one hand use; No sale.

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  • Reply 55 of 228
    the one hand holding thing is a total BS. In the past it took forever to get the apps size from iPhone 4/4s to iPhone 5, that's the reason they are holding back on a different size screen.
    Why do you think the ipad mini retina has same resolution as the Air?... (not talking about pixel density)
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  • Reply 56 of 228
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    Originally Posted by techno View Post

     

    Nothing more amusing than watching some clown put a tablet up to his ear, oh wait it is a phone.

     

    WSJ analysts are the clowns!


    Your perspective is laughable at best. 5.5+" phones sure, this comment would be applicable. Note3's are insanely large... However 4.8" is the bare minimum in this juncture of the industry. I'm tired (as many other I know) of looking at a teeny tiny screen, squinting just to make out text on some things or feeling like I'm watching a video on a small childs toy. A larger screen = a better viewing experience for all content and consumption. And no, I'm not carrying around an iPad mini as some have suggested just t have a larger viewing experience. Why carry around 2 devices when 1 will do (if the 1 device is done right)?

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  • Reply 57 of 228
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    brlawyer wrote: »
    The whole press at the time of the launch, plus Apple's own financial statement declarations. 

    And no, it's not about plastic - it's about lack of innovation and pandering to stupid analysts.
    What declaration was that? If your so sure of it, it should be easy to post the relevant paragraph(s) from Apple's quarterly SEC statement.
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  • Reply 58 of 228
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    Originally Posted by BobSchlob View Post

     

     

    Absolutely.

    No one hand use; No sale.


    All I can say is if Motorola can do it with the Moto X then surely Apple can... If Apple can't, then they aren't the crowning jewel of design we all thought they were.

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  • Reply 59 of 228
    Dudes, I'm an unnamed source. Ask me anything!
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  • Reply 60 of 228
    bobschlobbobschlob Posts: 1,074member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post



    The un-portable, battery-wasting, two-handed, gadget-fan iPhone is taking too long! Five inches is too small! Apple needs to leapfrog the competition and just sell an iPad mini sized iPhone! If it fits in your jeans, it's a failure. /s

     

    I always felt Apple's answer to the phablets should just be to work out "Voice" plans with the carriers for the iPad cellular models.

    Especially if they developed some really incredible new bluetooth earbuds-mic

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