I really dislike the notion that smaller screen phones are, or should be, "low end." It's Apple's obsession with thin that makes it difficult to make a premium phone with a smaller screen. The fact is, I would happily purchase this theoretical 6s if it was performant and had good battery life. And they could likely do it, if they made it as think as an iPhone 4 or 4s.
I want a 4" iPhone 6. 3.5-4.0" is the right size for most people. The people who want larger devices really want a tablet without wanting to lose the pocket portability.
I really dislike the notion that smaller screen phones are, or should be, "low end." It's Apple's obsession with thin that makes it difficult to make a premium phone with a smaller screen. The fact is, I would happily purchase this theoretical 6s if it was performant and had good battery life. And they could likely do it, if they made it as think as an iPhone 4 or 4s.
I want a 4" iPhone 6. 3.5-4.0" is the right size for most people. The people who want larger devices really want a tablet without wanting to lose the pocket portability.
Yes; although, I think 4.2" might be acceptable if they lose the bezels.
Why does a smaller screen mean lower specs? Sony's Z3 Compact is the best small phone because it doesn't have ancient internals and a poor screen (sadly it does have Android... but at least Sony makes it look respectable!) I still love the iPhone 4. Why not put top specs in it?
There is a limit to how thin the chassis can be (Optics for the camera basically). The Thickness of the 6 (with the bump), is at the limits of what can be done. Only other option, make the phone uneaven in thickness from to bottom. That way they could make it 6mm thick at the top and say 4mm at the bottom (with the phone very slightly tilting)
One size does not fit all. This is admittedly anecdotal experience, but I have 2 female friends with small hands that will not give up their 4s (3.5") because they found the 4" model too big. I have to believe that they're not the only 2 people on the planet that feel this way and that Apple would do well to offer a choice in size with at least 4 models ranging from 3.5" up. Even if they used the older style cases with upgraded guts
One size does not fit all. This is admittedly anecdotal experience, but I have 2 female friends with small hands that will not give up their 4s (3.5") because they found the 4" model too big. I have to believe that they're not the only 2 people on the planet that feel this way and that Apple would do well to offer a choice in size with at least 4 models ranging from 3.5" up. Even if they used the older style cases with upgraded guts
Obviously, going by the comments on this thread, they're not the only two people. The bigger question is, is there a big enough market for a 4" iPhone for Apple to justify in designing a new 4" model? I don't personally have the data to support if there is or isn't but I guess we'll know next Fall.
Except the Moto X is thicker in the middle (10mm) and the sides are about the same size as the Iphone 6. That would be great if you want to put super-duper optics for a 12MP top of class camera (there would be larger sensor, otherwise the extra central thickness it a bit pointless.
I was talking more of a wedge type phone with the top at 6.5mm and the bottom at say 3.5 mm. An Iphone like that would be about 90 grams, 3.3 ounce!
Except the Moto X is thicker in the middle (10mm) and the sides are about the same size as the Iphone 6. That would be great if you want to put super-duper optics for a 12MP top of class camera (there would be larger sensor, otherwise the extra central thickness it a bit pointless.
I was talking more of a wedge type phone with the top at 6.5mm and the bottom at say 3.5 mm. An Iphone like that would be about 90 grams, 3.3 ounce!
Actually it's very roughly half as thick as the iPhone6 at the edges 3.8mm (0.15 in.) for the Moto compared to the iPhones 6.9mm. But sure a wedge shape might work as well.
Apple can use the 5C shell and just reduce the battery a little to fit the two extra components in side it! After all; the 5C has a thicker battery then the 5S has! Plus, Apple will not have to worry about the NFC antennas placements since it made of polycarbonate Apple can just place them inside the case!
I doubt that Apple will make a low end upgraded 4" - 6C that will have NFC - ApplePay or Touch ID inside. It would take away from their mid tier and flagship model. An update show that it will be an A7, 512MB, 16GB, 326 ppi 4" screen size. Two colors only: black and white.
But don't read that as being against those that want a 4" iPhone. I hope all those people get your wish as it doesn't affect me negatively if it arrives, and affects me positively by getting people to stop complaining about a "new" 4" IPhone.
Frankly I want a modern but smaller iPhone, something between an iPhone 4 and a 5 in size.
Give it a couple years. The iPhone 6 already has a smaller box volume than all iPhones up through the 3GS, and lighter than all previous iPhones except the 5 and 5S.
BOX VOLUME: smallest to largest
iPhone 5: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 5S: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 4: 3.5"; 137 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 4S: 3.5"; 140 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 6: 4.7"; 129 g; 138.1 mm × 67.0 mm × 6.9 mm = 63,844 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 5C: 4.0"; 132 g; 124.4 mm × 59.2 mm × 8.97 mm = 66,059 mm<sup>3</sup>
Phone: 3.5"; 135 g; 115 mm × 61 mm × 11.6 mm = 81,374 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 3G: 3.5"; 133 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
Phone 3GS: 3.5"; 135 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
WEIGHT: lightest to heaviest
iPhone 5: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 5S: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 6: 4.7"; 129 g; 138.1 mm × 67.0 mm × 6.9 mm = 63,844 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 5C: 4.0"; 132 g; 124.4 mm × 59.2 mm × 8.97 mm = 66,059 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 3G: 3.5"; 133 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
Phone: 3.5"; 135 g; 115 mm × 61 mm × 11.6 mm = 81,374 mm<sup>3</sup>
Phone 3GS: 3.5"; 135 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 4: 3.5"; 137 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
iPhone 4S: 3.5"; 140 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm<sup>3</sup>
But don't read that as being against those that want a 4" iPhone. I hope all those people get your wish as it affects me negatively if it arrives, and affects me positively by getting people to stop complaining about a "new" 4" IPhone.
Give it a couple years. The iPhone 6 already has a smaller box volume than all iPhones up through the 3GS, and lighter than all previous iPhones except the 5 and 5S.
BOX VOLUME: smallest to largest
iPhone 5: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm3
iPhone 5S: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm3
iPhone 4: 3.5"; 137 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm3
iPhone 4S: 3.5"; 140 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm3
iPhone 6: 4.7"; 129 g; 138.1 mm × 67.0 mm × 6.9 mm = 63,844 mm3
iPhone 5C: 4.0"; 132 g; 124.4 mm × 59.2 mm × 8.97 mm = 66,059 mm3
Phone: 3.5"; 135 g; 115 mm × 61 mm × 11.6 mm = 81,374 mm3
iPhone 3G: 3.5"; 133 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm3
Phone 3GS: 3.5"; 135 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm3
WEIGHT: lightest to heaviest
iPhone 5: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm3
iPhone 5S: 4.0"; 112 g; 123.8 mm × 58.6 mm × 7.6 mm = 55,136 mm3
iPhone 6: 4.7"; 129 g; 138.1 mm × 67.0 mm × 6.9 mm = 63,844 mm3
iPhone 5C: 4.0"; 132 g; 124.4 mm × 59.2 mm × 8.97 mm = 66,059 mm3
iPhone 3G: 3.5"; 133 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm3
Phone: 3.5"; 135 g; 115 mm × 61 mm × 11.6 mm = 81,374 mm3
Phone 3GS: 3.5"; 135 g; 115.5 mm × 62.1 mm × 12.3 mm = 88,222 mm3
iPhone 4: 3.5"; 137 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm3
iPhone 4S: 3.5"; 140 g; 115.2 mm × 58.6 mm × 9.3 mm = 62,782 mm3
Not sure as how a 4 inch iPhone in a next generation build would affect you at all. You seem fine with participating on the forums, and fine with the current iPhones 6 and 6 Plus, which wouldn't be impacted either.
My take on this is that Apple already holds the high ground for 4 inch smartphones, and Apple shouldn't give up the niche. The current/next generation build would also make an acceptable next generation iPod Touch that would be at the same price points as the current iPod Touch; something that Apple would not do with an iPod Touch based on the iPhone 6 or 6 Plus. I get it that Apple needs to continue producing iPhone 5's for a while, but just the addition of Apple Pay, requiring, NFC, this generation of camera and the same build would be viable upgrade, and would sell well.
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I want a 4" iPhone 6. 3.5-4.0" is the right size for most people. The people who want larger devices really want a tablet without wanting to lose the pocket portability.
Yes; although, I think 4.2" might be acceptable if they lose the bezels.
so an iPhone mini is coming? yea there are those who want it compact, though iPhone 6 is fine when it comes to size.
One size does not fit all. This is admittedly anecdotal experience, but I have 2 female friends with small hands that will not give up their 4s (3.5") because they found the 4" model too big. I have to believe that they're not the only 2 people on the planet that feel this way and that Apple would do well to offer a choice in size with at least 4 models ranging from 3.5" up. Even if they used the older style cases with upgraded guts
Obviously, going by the comments on this thread, they're not the only two people. The bigger question is, is there a big enough market for a 4" iPhone for Apple to justify in designing a new 4" model? I don't personally have the data to support if there is or isn't but I guess we'll know next Fall.
Similar to the Moto X case design perhaps?
Except the Moto X is thicker in the middle (10mm) and the sides are about the same size as the Iphone 6. That would be great if you want to put super-duper optics for a 12MP top of class camera (there would be larger sensor, otherwise the extra central thickness it a bit pointless.
I was talking more of a wedge type phone with the top at 6.5mm and the bottom at say 3.5 mm. An Iphone like that would be about 90 grams, 3.3 ounce!
Apple can use the 5C shell and just reduce the battery a little to fit the two extra components in side it! After all; the 5C has a thicker battery then the 5S has! Plus, Apple will not have to worry about the NFC antennas placements since it made of polycarbonate Apple can just place them inside the case!
I doubt that Apple will make a low end upgraded 4" - 6C that will have NFC - ApplePay or Touch ID inside. It would take away from their mid tier and flagship model. An update show that it will be an A7, 512MB, 16GB, 326 ppi 4" screen size. Two colors only: black and white.
https://www.change.org/p/apple-a-customer-request-to-continue-designing-4-apple-iphones
No.
Can I only do the first half?
Can I also create a change.org petition to get change.org shut down? There are enough sources of false hope and delusion in this world.
No to what? The petition or the smaller iPhone?
Frankly I want a modern but smaller iPhone, something between an iPhone 4 and a 5 in size.
Yes, no to signing the petition.
But don't read that as being against those that want a 4" iPhone. I hope all those people get your wish as it doesn't affect me negatively if it arrives, and affects me positively by getting people to stop complaining about a "new" 4" IPhone.
Give it a couple years. The iPhone 6 already has a smaller box volume than all iPhones up through the 3GS, and lighter than all previous iPhones except the 5 and 5S.
WEIGHT: lightest to heaviest
No to what? The petition or the smaller iPhone?
Frankly I want a modern but smaller iPhone, something between an iPhone 4 and a 5 in size.
One thing we will never know... if Apple would have sold as many phones with a 4.7" iP6 and an updated 4 inch instead of the 5.5". I think so.
It will be interesting to see if Apple keeps the 5.5".
The petition is useless.
Yes, no to signing the petition.
But don't read that as being against those that want a 4" iPhone. I hope all those people get your wish as it affects me negatively if it arrives, and affects me positively by getting people to stop complaining about a "new" 4" IPhone.
Give it a couple years. The iPhone 6 already has a smaller box volume than all iPhones up through the 3GS, and lighter than all previous iPhones except the 5 and 5S.
WEIGHT: lightest to heaviest
Not sure as how a 4 inch iPhone in a next generation build would affect you at all. You seem fine with participating on the forums, and fine with the current iPhones 6 and 6 Plus, which wouldn't be impacted either.
My take on this is that Apple already holds the high ground for 4 inch smartphones, and Apple shouldn't give up the niche. The current/next generation build would also make an acceptable next generation iPod Touch that would be at the same price points as the current iPod Touch; something that Apple would not do with an iPod Touch based on the iPhone 6 or 6 Plus. I get it that Apple needs to continue producing iPhone 5's for a while, but just the addition of Apple Pay, requiring, NFC, this generation of camera and the same build would be viable upgrade, and would sell well.