Cool tech or not, Apple products should be fully operable on their own and not require another piece of "cool tech" to run. Cool tech doesn't raise my share price but forward thinking and ingenuity does and unfortunately this product is a dud. The market movers have spoken as well with AAPL down almost 2% today.
Haha. When will people learn not to make rash statements before Apple even releases a product. The original iPad was so maligned Steve Jobs was actually depressed about the initial reaction. Oh, and it also was only useable if you had a Mac or PC and iTunes in it's original form (couldn't be activated by itself). Pretty sure at the time people could have rated it a "dud" and hated that it required another piece of "cool tech" to run.
If the "market movers" have spoken I suggest you immediately sell your shares and get out before it's too late.
What's that? You haven't sold? What a surprise - because guess what, the watch will be a success, will advance quickly and Apple will make whiners like you more money while you complain the company has no idea.
Well, all Apple Watch models comes with the sport band out the box. You can buy the Apple Watch Steel with a different band than the sport band, which means that you won't have the sport band to sell.
The only way you can buy the Apple Watch with the sport band is if you buy the Apple Watch sport with the sport band, and you buy an extra band as an accessory.
The thing about that, is that it is unlikely that the person will not use the sport band, since they can use it when exercising or when doing everyday activity, and then swapping out the sport band for the non-sport band, to wear the Apple Watch in a more fashionable setting.
Since the sport band comes standard with the Apple Watch, it is highly unlikely that people will buy one second hand; but will most likely buy multiple colors of the sport bands from Apple, since they are only $49 each.
Anyway, buying a pre-worn Apple Band is like buying pre-worn underwear or pre-worn shoes; which to say is disgusting.
How did you come across the fact that any band works with any watch? This is in direct conflict with what other sites are posting and Cook made it sound like there would be some compatibility issues.
You will have to go with the Link Bracelet and add extra links to increase the length, or buy a second Link Bracelet and connect both Link Bracelets together to increase the length.
I don't think you can do this. One of the "design" elements of the link bracelet was that the links increase in size as they near the casing.
Did you watch the keynote? Obviously not. You can run with the apple watch without the phone and it tracks your time, distance moved, pace, heart rate and many other functions completely without your phone. The phone is only needed for gps and nfc and phone calls. When back in range with your phone it reports that data to the health app on the phone. Please stop spreading FUD and misinformation.
Im a runner and very excited about the watch and will buy one when it comes out for precisely all the things you say it won't do without the phone but does. Hell it even allows you to have 2gig of music to play while you run to play with bluetooth over your headphones. It has an accelerometer that tracks your distance, it learns much like the nike+ sensor for your shoe. Once you train it to your stride there pretty damn accurate. Heck even the M7 and M8 in the iPhones can track your distance.
In September they said that the watch had NFC built-in.
It would have been less confusing if, instead of calling them Apple Watch Sport, Apple Watch, and Apple Watch Edition, they'd just called them Apple Watch Aluminum, Apple Watch Steel, and Apple Watch Gold. Those extra names just add more cognitive elements to the mix without adding any additional information.
What happens if a future Sport model is made with a rubberized waterproof material or if one of the high-end models is made of titanium?
I don't think you can do this. One of the "design" elements of the link bracelet was that the links increase in size as they near the casing.
That's true, on the ends that connect to the casings, but the linked bands I'm familiar with can be resized with the links being put in any order once you get nearer the clasp area.
Still, paying that much more for extra links sems excessive. I assume Apple will offer the purchase of individual or link sets, possibly with the necessary removal and assembly tools, as this is customary with such watches. This will surely be less expensive than buying a whole new band, if it were available.
PS: If Apple doesn't offer this immediately when this watch goes on sale I will have to wonder if ?Watch is going to make it.
That's true, on the ends that connect to the casings, but the linked bands I'm familiar with can be resized with the links being put in any order once you get nearer the clasp area.
Still, paying that much more for extra links sems excessive. I assume Apple will offer the purchase of individual or link sets, possibly with the necessary removal and assumably tools, as this customary with such watches. This will surely be less expensive than buying a whole new band, if it were available.
PS: If Apple doesn't offer this immediately when this watch goes on sale I will have to wonder if ?Watch is going to make it.
My understanding is that the links don't require tools to remove as their is a built-in mechanism within each link. I don't understand your last statement. Are you saying if Apple doesn't cater to the obese the watch will not be successful?
My understanding is that the links don't require tools to remove as their is a built-in mechanism within each link.
I can't wait to see that in action, as well as the iFixit breakdown.
I don't understand your last statement. Are you saying if Apple doesn't cater to the obese the watch will not be successful?
I'm saying that if Apple hasn't considered and setup a way to get replacement links I'll start having some serious concerns about this product category's success as I see that as a fundamental and necessary inclusion.
The whole reason why I'd want to run with an Apple Watch on is so I can track my distance/time/calories burned and without the iPhone in my pocket the GPS will be inoperable. It's important to have this data as I am running not after I am done with a run.
You can track all this without the GPS. There is an accelerometer/giroscope and it gets your heartbeat.
For the price of just the steel link bracelet (no watch) at 400-500 usd one can buy an iPad Air 2!!!
Watch the vide on how that band is manufactured. I'm impressed it doesn't cost more.
Nevermind the fact that apparently Apple is the first company to ponder that their customers might wish to add/remove and resize their band without tools. And then create a band that allows one to do so.
So much for the new guy not getting an established industry. Seems like a fresh approach was needed....
possibly with the necessary removal and assumably tools
You mean your fingers?
This is the single greatest thing about the whole Apple watch announcement, IMNSHO. I can't believe people completly missed it.
Or perhaps we have been so conditioned to just assume tools are required.
But nope - no tools required to not only remove/change bands, but with the link band you can add and remove links with just your fingers.
Simply amazing. If the melanese loop band wasn't so darn sexy the link would be the band for me.
I also love the idea of an infinitely adjustable leather band using magnets for claps. I can't stand bands that are too tight or loose and am looking forward to these style bands.
This is the single greatest thing about the whole Apple watch announcement, IMNSHO. I can't believe peopel completly missed it.
Or perhaps we have been so conditioned to just assume tools are required.
But nope - no tools required to not only remove/change bands, but with the link band you can add and remove links with just your fingers.
Simply amazing. If the melanese loop band wasn't so darn sexy the link would be the band for me.
I also love the idea of an infinitely adjustable leather band using magnets for claps. I can't stand bands that are too tight or loose and am looking forward to these style bands.
I definitely missed it. The elegant way they connected the bands to the watch I knew about, but not the specifics of the link bracelet offering a similar elegance.
I definitely missed it. The elegant way they connected the bands to the watch I knew about, but not the specifics of the link bracelet offering a similar elegance.
Ha - I guess years of struggling with various link bands over the years made me hyper-aware of it when it floated by in the original announcement. It was liike a bolt of lightning to me when they said it. I had to go look it up online to make sure I hadn't mis-heard
That it took a computer company to make such a fundimental, and frankly such a "duh" feature just speaks volumes to me. I used to wonder how it could be true that apparently Apple was one of the few companies to truely get user experience, and here they are in completely new industry shaming the incumbants pretty badly on something I would argue that is pretty fundimental to the user experence of wearing a watch.
Then again, seeing how easily they walked all over the incumbant cell phone manufacturers I suppose I shouldn't be this surprised. But it does seem weird.
I hope the rumors of them building a car are true - would love to see their take on the automobile. With the digital crown on the watch, I have hope that unlike Tesla they would put in physical controls that you could feel for without having to take your eyes off the road. Touchscreens may be cool for lots of uses, but it always was idiotic to me that they should be considered for a primary interface in cars. Stupid....
Ha - I guess years of struggling with various link bands over the years made me hyper-aware of it when it floated by in the original announcement. It was liike a bolt of lightning to me when they said it. I had to go look it up online to make sure I hadn't mis-heard
That it took a computer company to make such a fundimental, and frankly such a "duh" feature just speaks volumes to me. I used to wonder how it could be true that apparently Apple was one of the few companies to truely get user experience, and here they are in completely new industry shaming the incumbants pretty badly on something I would argue that is pretty fundimental to the user experence of wearing a watch.
Then again, seeing how easily they walked all over the incumbant cell phone manufacturers I suppose I shouldn't be this surprised. But it does seem weird.
I hope the rumors of them building a car are true - would love to see their take on the automobile. With the digital crown on the watch, I have hope that unlike Tesla they would put in physical controls that you could feel for without having to take your eyes off the road. Touchscreens may be cool for lots of uses, but it always was idiotic to me that they should be considered for a primary interface in cars. Stupid....
Speaking of the interface, there are reports from many pro-Apple tech bloggers that were in attendance on Monday saying that it's not very intuitive to use.
Your article is not entirely correct. The Apple Watch with Space Black Stainless Steel Case is not as customizable as the Apple Watch Stainless Steel. The 42 mm Classic Buckle as well as the Milanese Loop that you could additionally buy have a stainless steel finish and won't match the Space Black, especially where you put the casing and band together. This means that only the Leather Loop and Sport Band would work with the Space Black version of the Apple Watch.
As an Apple Shareholder I am miffed at the fact that I will need my iPhone 6 with me at all times to use the full functionality of my Apple Watch. I want to go for a run without a clunky phone strapped to my arm or in my shorts. I will wait for the Apple Watch that will give this functionality. I don't need to squint and read emails/texts on a Watch size screen when I have the iPhone 6 in my pocket. I'm not sure who this appeals to besides women who keep their phones in their purses or pocketbooks.
Are women near extinction that Apple doesn't need to bother addressing that market?
Speaking of the interface, there are reports from many pro-Apple tech bloggers that were in attendance on Monday saying that it's not very intuitive to use.
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Cool tech or not, Apple products should be fully operable on their own and not require another piece of "cool tech" to run. Cool tech doesn't raise my share price but forward thinking and ingenuity does and unfortunately this product is a dud. The market movers have spoken as well with AAPL down almost 2% today.
Haha. When will people learn not to make rash statements before Apple even releases a product. The original iPad was so maligned Steve Jobs was actually depressed about the initial reaction. Oh, and it also was only useable if you had a Mac or PC and iTunes in it's original form (couldn't be activated by itself). Pretty sure at the time people could have rated it a "dud" and hated that it required another piece of "cool tech" to run.
If the "market movers" have spoken I suggest you immediately sell your shares and get out before it's too late.
What's that? You haven't sold? What a surprise - because guess what, the watch will be a success, will advance quickly and Apple will make whiners like you more money while you complain the company has no idea.
How did you come across the fact that any band works with any watch? This is in direct conflict with what other sites are posting and Cook made it sound like there would be some compatibility issues.
You will have to go with the Link Bracelet and add extra links to increase the length, or buy a second Link Bracelet and connect both Link Bracelets together to increase the length.
I don't think you can do this. One of the "design" elements of the link bracelet was that the links increase in size as they near the casing.
Did you watch the keynote? Obviously not. You can run with the apple watch without the phone and it tracks your time, distance moved, pace, heart rate and many other functions completely without your phone. The phone is only needed for gps and nfc and phone calls. When back in range with your phone it reports that data to the health app on the phone. Please stop spreading FUD and misinformation.
Im a runner and very excited about the watch and will buy one when it comes out for precisely all the things you say it won't do without the phone but does. Hell it even allows you to have 2gig of music to play while you run to play with bluetooth over your headphones. It has an accelerometer that tracks your distance, it learns much like the nike+ sensor for your shoe. Once you train it to your stride there pretty damn accurate. Heck even the M7 and M8 in the iPhones can track your distance.
In September they said that the watch had NFC built-in.
What happens if a future Sport model is made with a rubberized waterproof material or if one of the high-end models is made of titanium?
That's true, on the ends that connect to the casings, but the linked bands I'm familiar with can be resized with the links being put in any order once you get nearer the clasp area.
Still, paying that much more for extra links sems excessive. I assume Apple will offer the purchase of individual or link sets, possibly with the necessary removal and assembly tools, as this is customary with such watches. This will surely be less expensive than buying a whole new band, if it were available.
PS: If Apple doesn't offer this immediately when this watch goes on sale I will have to wonder if ?Watch is going to make it.
That's true, on the ends that connect to the casings, but the linked bands I'm familiar with can be resized with the links being put in any order once you get nearer the clasp area.
Still, paying that much more for extra links sems excessive. I assume Apple will offer the purchase of individual or link sets, possibly with the necessary removal and assumably tools, as this customary with such watches. This will surely be less expensive than buying a whole new band, if it were available.
PS: If Apple doesn't offer this immediately when this watch goes on sale I will have to wonder if ?Watch is going to make it.
My understanding is that the links don't require tools to remove as their is a built-in mechanism within each link. I don't understand your last statement. Are you saying if Apple doesn't cater to the obese the watch will not be successful?
I can't wait to see that in action, as well as the iFixit breakdown.
I'm saying that if Apple hasn't considered and setup a way to get replacement links I'll start having some serious concerns about this product category's success as I see that as a fundamental and necessary inclusion.
The whole reason why I'd want to run with an Apple Watch on is so I can track my distance/time/calories burned and without the iPhone in my pocket the GPS will be inoperable. It's important to have this data as I am running not after I am done with a run.
You can track all this without the GPS. There is an accelerometer/giroscope and it gets your heartbeat.
lol - I don't think the laws of physics care that your an Apple shareholder....
Watch the vide on how that band is manufactured. I'm impressed it doesn't cost more.
Nevermind the fact that apparently Apple is the first company to ponder that their customers might wish to add/remove and resize their band without tools. And then create a band that allows one to do so.
So much for the new guy not getting an established industry. Seems like a fresh approach was needed....
You mean your fingers?
This is the single greatest thing about the whole Apple watch announcement, IMNSHO. I can't believe people completly missed it.
Or perhaps we have been so conditioned to just assume tools are required.
But nope - no tools required to not only remove/change bands, but with the link band you can add and remove links with just your fingers.
Simply amazing. If the melanese loop band wasn't so darn sexy the link would be the band for me.
I also love the idea of an infinitely adjustable leather band using magnets for claps. I can't stand bands that are too tight or loose and am looking forward to these style bands.
I definitely missed it. The elegant way they connected the bands to the watch I knew about, but not the specifics of the link bracelet offering a similar elegance.
Ha - I guess years of struggling with various link bands over the years made me hyper-aware of it when it floated by in the original announcement. It was liike a bolt of lightning to me when they said it. I had to go look it up online to make sure I hadn't mis-heard
That it took a computer company to make such a fundimental, and frankly such a "duh" feature just speaks volumes to me. I used to wonder how it could be true that apparently Apple was one of the few companies to truely get user experience, and here they are in completely new industry shaming the incumbants pretty badly on something I would argue that is pretty fundimental to the user experence of wearing a watch.
Then again, seeing how easily they walked all over the incumbant cell phone manufacturers I suppose I shouldn't be this surprised. But it does seem weird.
I hope the rumors of them building a car are true - would love to see their take on the automobile. With the digital crown on the watch, I have hope that unlike Tesla they would put in physical controls that you could feel for without having to take your eyes off the road. Touchscreens may be cool for lots of uses, but it always was idiotic to me that they should be considered for a primary interface in cars. Stupid....
Speaking of the interface, there are reports from many pro-Apple tech bloggers that were in attendance on Monday saying that it's not very intuitive to use.
That's typically the one thing about an Apple product you don't expect to hear.
And, you'll be hauled up for sexual assault....
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Agree re. the Milanese Loop. Gorgeous. Sold.
Awwwwww
That doesn't seem fair!
Are women near extinction that Apple doesn't need to bother addressing that market?
Nilay Patel is a loudmouthed chump.