And right on cue, the salivating trolls come marching onto EVERY Apple site in existence by the truckload!
Forget trolls. What is your opinion on what is happening on iPhone?
The rest of the business seems to be doing ok. They have a lot of cash reserves to pull on. That won't save them from a roller coaster ride, short term, but iPhone is suffering. Do you agree with TCs line or do you think he is airbrushing bits? Are prices too high? Is competition playing a part? Are iPhones underperforming on features? Etc.
So are all the people who shit on anybody here who speculated iPhone sales might be soft going to apologize now? It was patently obvious once Apple started heavily pushing the trade-in program and displaying cheaper prices on apple.com homepage that there was an issue with sales.
Lol! Buffett is a “rookie”? I don’t think so, just wait and see. He plays the long game and has influence far beyond one quarter’s results. Remember, he is the only financier to prise some shared ownership out of the Mars corporation in nearly 100 years. This softening of iPhone sales is the consequence of two things. 1. Electing a dumb jerk as president. Trump knows nothing about running an economy and his days are numbered. His policies are unwinding into the negative economic effects they always would be. 2. A significant downturn in Global demand due to pessimism about the economies of major established and developing markets. If you have liquid capital this may be a very good time to pick up AAPL alongside Buffett.
Apple offers a wide range of phone price points. Pointing solely to the very top, most maxed out option is rather deceitful.
True, but no different to last year. Could it be that people are shunning lower price points due to the phones being (and looking) older? Or simply reaching their own price ceilings?
Well, that was pretty clear. At least in part, pricing really IS an issue and I think a DED article today was implying China was performing well for Apple.
And yet nothing in Cook’s letter that specifically talks about price. The biggest blunder in the last couple years is the 23% increase in iPhone prices. Apple raised prices to offset declining unit growth and its come back to bite the company.
Well, that was pretty clear. At least in part, pricing really IS an issue and I think a DED article today was implying China was performing well for Apple.
And yet nothing in Cook’s letter that specifically talks about price. The biggest blunder in the last couple years is the 23% increase in iPhone prices. Apple raised prices to offset declining unit growth and its come back to bite the company.
Whilst not directly mentioning price , it’s the only thing that explains this quote from Tim. - "While Greater China and other emerging markets accounted for the vast majority of the year-over-year iPhone revenue decline, in some developed markets, iPhone upgrades also were not as strong as we thought they would be."
Apple probably could have successfully raised prices, had they not picked a very bad moment, with a confluence of the strong dollar, Trump's tariffs, and a general global economic slowdown. However, what you also have to ask yourself as an investor is, what are other stocks doing? Mostly they'll be going down, as the entire market continues its correction. The biggest factor in my personal opinion is the Sugar Diet that the Republican tax cuts fed the economy -- now the sugar rush is over, and the current and future generations are waking up to their debt hangover.
One reason Cook listed for weak demand was cheaper battery replacement pricing. So is he admitting that the previous way of handling battery issues was intended to drive people to buy new phones?
It's millions of haters/losers/idiots all over the world having a collective orgasm at hearing this news. Seems they can only be happy when there's bad news about Apple.
Truly. No one cares but if this news was about Samsung or Google you would be celebrating.
I refused to buy a 2018 iPhone due to pricing. Just as I refused the previous year's offerings.
When these last minute Apple promotions appeared, Apple got the sale but only by the skin of its teeth. I gave my reasons and millions of people probably share them. I definitely won't have orgasms over this news.
You were NEVER going to buy an iPhone this year, but at least your wife did...
If you click on the cog wheel in your post you can edit the typos.
Regards value in iPads, yes some are and have been great value. Others not so.
Although less today, this news hinges on iPhone (although there are other factors involved) and its importance as a revenue driver for Apple. It still commands a big piece of the pie.
It's millions of haters/losers/idiots all over the world having a collective orgasm at hearing this news. Seems they can only be happy when there's bad news about Apple.
Truly. No one cares but if this news was about Samsung or Google you would be celebrating.
I refused to buy a 2018 iPhone due to pricing. Just as I refused the previous year's offerings.
When these last minute Apple promotions appeared, Apple got the sale but only by the skin of its teeth. I gave my reasons and millions of people probably share them. I definitely won't have orgasms over this news.
You were NEVER going to buy an iPhone this year, but at least your wife did...
Well, it ended up as a Christmas gift. It is my money TC will be reporting on in the next call.
I was priced out if the iPhone market years ago and frankly it was a great decision to switch.
So are all the people who shit on anybody here who speculated iPhone sales might be soft going to apologize now? It was patently obvious once Apple started heavily pushing the trade-in program and displaying cheaper prices on apple.com homepage that there was an issue with sales.
Not for a minute.
Should someone who's wrong 24 quarters in a row (all the analysts and the idiots who believe them) that now finds their prediction come true one single time suddenly be praised for their insight? Or did they just get lucky after repeating the same tripe over and over to the point where one day they were finally correct?
Here’s an interesting take. It could happen. Wearables and even Apple’s own TV services aren’t enough to replace iPhone from a revenue standpoint.
Daisuke Wakabayashi (@daiwaka)
1/2/19, 4:14 PM
Today's news make me more certain than ever of this totally uninformed opinion - Apple is going to buy Disney or Netflix in the near future. Netflix is easier to integrate but upside of Disney might be higher.
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The rest of the business seems to be doing ok. They have a lot of cash reserves to pull on. That won't save them from a roller coaster ride, short term, but iPhone is suffering. Do you agree with TCs line or do you think he is airbrushing bits? Are prices too high? Is competition playing a part? Are iPhones underperforming on features? Etc.
This softening of iPhone sales is the consequence of two things.
1. Electing a dumb jerk as president. Trump knows nothing about running an economy and his days are numbered. His policies are unwinding into the negative economic effects they always would be.
2. A significant downturn in Global demand due to pessimism about the economies of major established and developing markets. If you have liquid capital this may be a very good time to pick up AAPL alongside Buffett.
"While Greater China and other emerging markets accounted for the vast majority of the year-over-year iPhone revenue decline, in some developed markets, iPhone upgrades also were not as strong as we thought they would be."
Regards value in iPads, yes some are and have been great value. Others not so.
Although less today, this news hinges on iPhone (although there are other factors involved) and its importance as a revenue driver for Apple. It still commands a big piece of the pie.
I was priced out if the iPhone market years ago and frankly it was a great decision to switch.
Not for a minute.
Should someone who's wrong 24 quarters in a row (all the analysts and the idiots who believe them) that now finds their prediction come true one single time suddenly be praised for their insight? Or did they just get lucky after repeating the same tripe over and over to the point where one day they were finally correct?
We all know it's the latter.
It literally made older devices usable for another year. I bet that had at least some impact on sales.